Around the league - Oct 22 2009

Jason Gregor
October 22 2009 08:29AM

This past week Nick Lidstrom became only the 8th defenseman to register 1,000 points. The 53rd pick in the 1989 draft is quietly putting himself in the conversation of greatest defenseman ever.

Lidstrom doesn’t seem to get the fanfare he deserves. His game is so effective we sometimes overlook how good he has been. Only Bobby Orr (8) and Doug Harvey (7) have more Norris Trophies than Lidstrom’s six, and Lidstrom might have seven if there wasn’t the lockout.

Lidstrom never put up spectacular numbers, his best season was 80 points in 2006, but his offensive numbers are solid, but his defensive play is top-notch. Lidstrom might be the best European player to ever play, and when his career is over he will be considered a top-five defender and maybe the best ever.

With his 1,000 point he joined an elite crew of scoring defenders, Ray Bourque (1,579), Paul Coffey (1,531), Al MacInnis (1,274), Phil Housley (1,232), Larry Murphy (1,216), Denis Potvin (1,052) and Brian Leetch (1,028).

Back in 1989 not many thought he would turn out this good, in fact he wasn’t even drafted as an 18-year-old in 1988, but instead he was taken as a 19-year-old. Here are the D-men who were taken before him in 1989.

  • Adam Bennett, 6th overall to Chicago, 69 games and eleven points.
  • Doug Zmolek, 7th overall to Minnesota, 467 games and 64 points.
  • Jason Herter, 8th overall to Vancouver, 1 games and one point.
  • Jason Marshall, 9th overall to St. Louis, 526 games and 67 points.
  • Kevin Haller, 14th overall to Buffalo, 642 games and 138 points.
  • Jason Soules, 15th overall to Edmonton, No games.
  • Jamie Heward, 16th overall to Pittsburgh, 394 games 124 points.
  • Steve Bancroft, 21st overall to Toronto, six games and one point.
  • Adam Foote, 22nd overall to Quebec, 1040 games and 291 points.
  • Dan Ratushny, 25th overall to Winnipeg, one game and one point.
  • Mike Speer, 27th overall to Chicago, No games.
  • Patrice Brisebois, 30th overall to Montreal, 1009 games and 420 points.
  • Rick Corriveau, 31st overall to St. Louis, No games.
  • Bob Boughner, 32nd overall to Detroit, 630 games and 72 points. (Even the Wings didn’t think Lidstrom was the best D-man available.)
  • Paul Laus, 37th overall to Pittsburgh, 530 games and 72 points.
  • Brent Thompson, 39th overall to LA, 121 games and 11 points.
  • Bob Kellogg, 48th overall to Chicago, No games.
  • Veli-Pekka Kautonen, 50th overall to Calgary, No games.

The Blackhawks took three defensemen ahead of Lidstrom that year, talk about a bad year for the Hawks scouting staff.

Nikolai Khabulin is now tied with Olaf Kolzig 21st overall with most career wins, 303. Three more wins and Khabibulin will pass Billy Smith (305) and be in the top 20. If he wins 37 games this season he will pass Sean Burke (324), Harry Lumley (330) and Gump Worsley (335), putting Khabibulin 17th overall. If he finishes his contract with the Oilers, and wins an average of 20 games the next three years he could crack the top ten.

Some other milestones or career rankings that should fall this year:

  • With two more goals Mike Modano will pass the Rocket, Maurice Richard with 545 career goals.
  • With one more OT goal, Patrik Elias becomes the career leader with 16. He is currently tied with Jaromir Jagr, Mats Sundin and Sergei Fedorov with 15.
  • Mark Recchi needs one more assist for 900 in his career. He will pass Bryan Trottier (901) at some point this season and move into 17th on the all-time assists list. And he needs three more GP, to become only the 13th player in NHL history to play 1,500 games.
  • With his 21 PIMs so far this year, Donald Brashear is now 15th all-time in PIMs with 2,582. He needs 203 more to catch Scott Stevens for 14th.
  • Paul Kariya needs 48 points for 1,000, while Alexia Kovalev needs 55.

Ice girl of the week

This week I give the slow clap to a group of Blackhawks Ice girls. I know this is back-to-back weeks with a Chicago girl, but the picture above showcases the benefits of Ice Girls.

Random thoughts

The NFL has Mr. Irrelevant, a moniker given to the last pick in the NFL draft, but the NHL has no such thing. Patric Hornqvist was the last pick, 230th in 2005, but is off to a great start for the Predators with two goals and six points in seven games. He is only the 9th player who was taken with final pick, since 1979, to have played in the NHL.

  • 2002: Detroit took, Jonathon Ericsson 291st. Is hurt but should be a solid contributor.
  • 1997: Boston chose Jay Henderson 246th. Played 33 games.
  • 1994: NYR took Kim Johnsson 286th. Currently playing with the Wild, has played in 686 career games.
  • 1993: Pittsburgh took Hans Jonsson 286th and he played 242 games for the Pens.
  • 1988: Calgary chose Sergei Pryakhin 252nd. He played 46 games over three years.
  • 1987: Oilers took Igor Vyazmikin 252nd. He played four games for the Oil in 1991.
  • 1980: Philly took Andy Brickley 210th. He played 385 games and registered 222 points.
  • 1979: Edmonton took Blair Barnes 126th. He played one game for the L.A Kings.

I love a good fight and a good hit, but why does it seem every time we witness a bone-crushing hit the guy who dished out the hit gets jumped. Last night, Willie Mitchell crushed Jonathon Toews with a clean open-ice hit. Kris Versteeg wrestled with Mitchell right after and both got minors. Mitchell shouldn’t have to turtle, and he shouldn’t have to sit for two minutes because Versteeg got in his face.

Now that the Islanders won in a shoot out last night, the Leafs are the only winless team left and I’m happy for Brian Burke. His pompous attitude, short hypocrite memory and overall smug attitude make me cheer against the Leafs. I’d love nothing more than to see the Leafs finish dead last, win the lottery and watch Burke squirm as the Boston Bruins select Taylor Hall first overall.

In the summer many said Ryan Smyth had no chance to make the Olympic team, in fact Ryan Rishaug and I debated in at length, and I said you can’t rule him out. I never thought he’d produce like he is, but if he is in the top-twenty in scoring come December he will make the squad, because Steve Yzerman and crew know what to expect from Smyth. He is still the best in the league in front of the net, and never shies away from getting greasy.

Regular season NHL drafts that don’t allow reserve players are stupid. One major injury and your draft is over. Now that Marc Savard is out for six weeks, I’m done. Losing a draft due to an injury is bogus.

Leader through the week

Here are the top ten in pts, goals, assists and other stats.

Goals:

  • Nine: Alex Ovechkin
  • Seven: Ilya Kovalchuk, Patrick Marleau and Devon Setoguchi
  • Six: Dany Heatley, Ryan Smyth, Alex Semin, Ryan Malone, Marian Gaborik and Mike Richards

Assists:

  • Twelve: Joe Thornton (leads for the second straight week).
  • Nine: Nicklas Backstrom
  • Eight: Vinny Prospal, Anze Kopitar, Marty St.Louis and Henrik Sedin.
  • Seven: Ovechkin (no assists this week), Smyth, Rick Nash and Evgeni Malkin, Rene Bourque, Dan Boyle, Matt Carle, Erik Johnson and Jason Demers. Hands up anyone who has heard of Jason Demers before reading this? The rookie D-man for the Sharks has four assists in his last two games.

Points:

  • Sixteen: Ovechkin
  • Fourteen: Thornton
  • Thirteen: Smyth and Kopitar.
  • Twelve: ealtey, and Gaborik.
  • Eleven: Nash, Bourque, Malkin, Prospal, St.Louis, H. Sedin and Backstrom.

Plus/Minus:

  • +11: Nicklas Grossman
  • +9: Ladislav Smid, Brandon Dubinsky, Alex Goligoski, Stephane Robidas and Ovechkin.
  • +8: Scott Hannan, Henrik Tallinder, Jan Hejda and Curtis Glencross.
  • +7: Five players tied.

PP Goals:

  • Four: Mike Richards, Devon Setoguchi and Ryan Smyth
  • Three: Michael Del Zotto, Rich Peverley, Steven Stamkos, Andrew Brunette, Mikael Samuellson, Raffi Torres and Matt Stajan.

Hits:

  • 38: Ryan Callahan leads for second straight week.
  • 34: Dustin Brown
  • 32: J.F Jacques and Chris Neil
  • 30: Matt Cooke and Troy Brouwer
  • 29: Andrew Alberts, Cody Mcleod
  • 28: Ovechkin
  • 26: Five tied with 26

Shots:

  • 61: Ovechkin had 19 shots this week with four goals.
  • 41: Samuelsson had 20 shots this week, but only one goal.
  • 39: Gaborik
  • 37: Alex Burrows
  • 34: Malkin
  • 33: Eric Staal, Michael Cammalleri, Zach Parise, Dustin Brown and Setoguchi.

Final point(s)

Sidney Crosby, Jonathon Toews, Zach Parise and Jamie Langenbrunner are two-for-two in shoot outs this year. They are the only players perfect with more than one opportunity.

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Victoria
October 22 2009, 03:04PM
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@Jason Gregor

Sorry dude, but that was totally a defensive response. You trying to justify that picture, still, proves that.

Besides which, that comment about admiring the opposite sex is a load. Admiring attractive men is one thing but if I were to start blogging on here and posting pictures of scantily clad men on a good portion of my blog, you would honestly not be bothered at having to look at it all the time? Gimme a break.

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#53 Oil on Tap
October 22 2009, 03:31PM
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As for the ice-girls above, what do you prefer, the sleek black pants over figure skates or the sleek black pants clumsily tucked into regular hockey skates like the girl on the right? I gotta go with the Tacks.

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#54 Victoria
October 22 2009, 04:04PM
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@Jason Gregor

You didn't answer my question, Gregor. Would looking at pictures of near naked dudes not bother you?

And yeah, actually I do have to look when it's the first thing one see on this site when they open the page. So, what... am I not suppose to read about the Oilers if I don't want to see that? Am I not suppose to watch hockey games now, either?

If I'm overdramatic then I'll ask you to take a gander at the responses when that picture of Moreau, Souray and Cogs was posted on this site.

Plus, this isn't about nudity and you know that. Being comfortable with nudity is an important part peoples sexuality and artistic culture. What you're defending, however, is objectification. There is no purpose to a female dressing like they do in the picture you posted other then to have guys drool over them.

Congrats to your mother, btw. I'm sure she's a very intelligent women who got where she is today by not exploiting herself.

PS. I never actually called you sexist, so stop accusing me of saying things I didn't.

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#55 Boris
October 22 2009, 04:22PM
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@Victoria

"But if clarity is necessary, maybe Gregor should add a blib to his posts about how he's not actually sexist when he constantly posts pictures of scantily clad women." This is what you said about JG. I thought you called him a sexist. And hey, if you want to wear cloths that cover you up, thats ok. but to see woman in an ice girl costume is nice to look at. After all isn't that why woman wear make up and colour their hair and wear sexy clothing...so men will look at them? What's the difference. Lighten up a bit, you seem wound a bit tight today. It's all in jest....

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#56 shawnj
October 22 2009, 04:58PM
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@Jason Gregor

Funny, I was talking about the picture you posted on this site and not pictures from somewhere else.

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#59 David S
October 22 2009, 05:33PM
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1- There's no nudity here. Not even "near nudity" by today's standards.

2- How many pics of Ice Girls have we seen amongst all the image content on here. I'd be willing to bet you could count the entire lot on one hand.

3- Guys like women. Beautiful women even more. This is a hockey website predominantly (I'd bet 99%) visited by guys. I for one am OK with the occasional sight of beautiful girls on skates. I bet a poll would confirm that most other guys here are of the same thought.

4- Its a free society. If you don't like what's here, I'm sure there are other places you'll find that are less offensive to your very exclusive tastes.

5- We have a woman writer here. Her name is Amber and she does a great job. Haven't heard her whining about the odd Ice Girl pic. Yet.

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#61 Hemmertime
October 22 2009, 06:06PM
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@Jason Gregor

Keep up with the Ice Girls pics, I love them. Besides the fact that the girls perform (?) in front of 18,000 people live - a lot of them children and are thus deemed socially acceptable, it's playing the odds: I think the majority of ON readers are men, and most of those men like beautiful women.

And if the women didnt want to be objectified they wouldnt take a job wearing bikinis on ice. If I got free tickets to every game and you paid me, hell I'd wear that outfit.

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#62 Hemmertime
October 22 2009, 06:07PM
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I'm trying this new honesty thing, so I guess Ill admit Im already wearing it...

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#63 Nail Yakupov
October 22 2009, 06:35PM
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More more more ice girls! *Screams* MORE!!!

@Victoria: I wouldn't mind either. I enjoyed the pic of Souray/Cogliano/Moreau. It was funny.

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#64 Nail Yakupov
October 22 2009, 06:37PM
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I also nominate Victoria to be the first Oiler's ice girl if we ever get the goods.

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#65 Reagan
October 22 2009, 07:13PM
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I like the Blonde on the right.

Jason, I saw Tatum Stanowich (Tator Sandwich)the other day. Kinda funny. She hasn't changed a bit. I was leaving Rexall around 5:30ish on Monday. Had work to do there, in the BC Booth.

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