He ain't heavy, he's my head coach

Jean Lefebvre
June 20 2009 12:22PM

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So it seems Brent Sutter will soon be introduced as the new head coach of the Calgary Flames. TSN reports that the two sides are working out the details but when it’s brothers on opposite sides of the bargaining table, what could possibly be left to settle? Who gets to sleep in the top bunk when the lads visit the ranch?

If this turns out to be true, nobody should be shocked. There was just something in the word choice and tone of Brent’s presser upon resigning from the New Jersey Devils that left the door wide open for exactly this turn of events. And in hindsight, Darryl Sutter’s “I’m the best man for the job” remark at his presser when he talked about Mike Keenan’s firing should have had “red herring” printed on it with 128-point Helvetica.

All that said, this is a little surprising (again, assuming it’s true). I honestly believed that Brent would stay away because he was of the opinion that no NHL organization was big enough for both of these particular Sutter brothers. It wasn’t that the siblings didn’t like each other, but all the visible evidence suggests that these two fellows are used to getting their own way and, well, the time has long passed for these two to settle their differences with wrestling matches on the parlour rug.

Two possibilities come to mind:

  1. Brent satisfies his power-tripping urges my running his junior hockey fiefdom in Red Deer and is willing to let others – first Lou Lamoriello and now potentially big brother Darryl – call the shots for his other hockey gig; or,
  2. The brothers have come to some sort of agreement on who gets authority on what in regards to Flames business.

If you’ll remember, one brother has already hired another to coach his team – a couple of years back, Brent handed the Red Deer reins over to Brian. Flames fans will hope this brother partnership turns out a tad better than that one.

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Lefebvre is in that awkward stage of hockey following -- old enough to fondly remember the Cleveland Barons and too set in his ways to accept charity points and games where there's a winner but apparently no loser. As a long-time ink-stained wretch, he's also a firm believer in the old Bobby Knight quote about journalists: "All of us learn to write in second grade, but most of us go on to better things."
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#1 Kent
June 20 2009, 12:30PM
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Word is, Peter Laviolette is going to be retained as an "associate coach" as well.

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#2 oilerzz
June 20 2009, 01:18PM
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worst kept secret since burke to toronto

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#3 Bob Cob
June 20 2009, 01:23PM
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Who Cares? This isn't Flames Nation!

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#4 Librarian Mike
June 20 2009, 01:23PM
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"In other news, the sky is blue..."

I'm standing by my statement from a previous article that if *chough WHEN cough* the Flames get knocked out of the first round, they will get into a fistfight at the end-of-season presser.

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#5 Mikey #2
June 20 2009, 01:36PM
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Bob Cob wrote:

Who Cares? This isn’t Flames Nation!

It's a big story. I'm guessing they won't post every Flames story on here, but a big one like this I don't mind.

Laviolette too??? Wow looks like they are trying to copy the Oilers.Who would have thought any team would copy anything the Oilers do.

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#6 Milli
June 20 2009, 01:46PM
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In other news, Bertuzzi cannot understand why he hasn't been offered a contract......

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#7 ronald
June 20 2009, 01:51PM
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In the words of the dearly departed Mr. Daniels- Flames (still) suck. Breaking Oilers news please.

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#8 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 01:52PM
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Bob Cob wrote:

Who Cares? This isn’t Flames Nation!

I do. A lot actually. Sutter and Laviolette is a huge tandem. Much more formidable than our own I would suggest. Jesus the Flames ought to be good this year.

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#9 Mikey #2
June 20 2009, 01:53PM
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Travis Dakin wrote:

I do. A lot actually. Sutter and Laviolette is a huge tandem. Much more formidable than our own I would suggest. Jesus the Flames ought to be good this year.

What makes them more formidable than Quinn and Renney??? Just curious what you base that point on.

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#10 ronald
June 20 2009, 01:54PM
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Maybe, but last time I checked the coaches don't actually play. My bigger concern is upgrading Oiler players to compete against flame players.

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#11 Robin Brownlee
June 20 2009, 01:55PM
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GUYS . . . Why not ease up a little? Just because something has been rumoured or speculated on for awhile doesn't mean you ignore it once it gets close to being a done deal.

It's like the Daum thing the other day. Sure, everybody assumed it was coming, but just because that's the case do I ignore it once it's done? The Sutter epic has moved along down a predictable road, but would you rather Jean just shrug his shoulders?

You either want us to sniff around or not. No?

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#12 Librarian Mike
June 20 2009, 01:56PM
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Milli wrote:

In other news, Bertuzzi cannot understand why he hasn’t been offered a contract……

I'm pretty sure he'll end up in Dallas or Toronto, playing for one of the only two guys in the NHL who can stand to be in the same room as him.

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#13 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 02:04PM
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Mikey #2 wrote:

What makes them more formidable than Quinn and Renney??? Just curious what you base that point on.

1)Sutter/Laviolette = Stanley cup ring 2)Quinn/Renney = not so much.

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#14 ronaldr
June 20 2009, 02:06PM
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Your right. We just like to hear flames aquire player x, Oilers aquire player Y, who is infinitely better then player x. So much so the sobs of mr. sutter can be heard all the way from the lands of OilersNation.

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#15 Kent
June 20 2009, 02:09PM
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@ Mikey #2:

The Laviolette thing is more rumor than anything. no real confirmation yet, so it may not be real.

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#16 Archaeologuy
June 20 2009, 02:10PM
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Business and Family always mix well together. It will be like Jon and Kate plus 23 down in Cowtown. Family struggles we love to watch, fights and disagreements on National TV. It starts off lovey dovey with Jon and Kate...er...Darryl and Brent trying to do whats best for the kids...er...team. Then Kate/Darryl's overbearing presence and constant mishandling of the Cap pushes Jon/Brent into the arms of another woman/Red Deer Rebels, and the kids are left to fend for themselves. They try to work it out, but everyone knows its doomed to fail in the 1st round anyway.

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#17 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 02:10PM
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@ Mikey #2: When your associate coach has a ring as a head coach well, you're pretty much doing alright.

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#18 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 02:10PM
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Kent wrote:

@ Mikey #2: The Laviolette thing is more rumor than anything. no real confirmation yet, so it may not be real.

If it's not true then good. If it is then bad.

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#19 West Coast Oil
June 20 2009, 02:10PM
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Goes to show how the NHL coaching landscape is changing when guys like Laviolette and Renney are taking associate coaching positions.

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#20 ronaldr
June 20 2009, 02:16PM
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And then the league investigates the goslins/ sutters for exploiting the kids/ players by forcing them to work on the family farm on off days. Sidenote: Phaneuf is mistaken as livestock and never seen again.

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#21 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 02:17PM
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ronaldr wrote:

Sidenote: Phaneuf is mistaken as livestock and never seen again.

BWAHAHAHA

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#22 Gov't of Canada Radio Commercial
June 20 2009, 02:19PM
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How is Sutter's situation any different from Heatley's? They both quit on their teams so they could relocate to where they want to go. Dollars to doughnuts Heatley ends up in Clowntown now. Fits the script anyways..

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#23 Archaeologuy
June 20 2009, 02:28PM
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ronaldr wrote:

Sidenote: Phaneuf is mistaken as livestock and never seen again.

How long after he's missing before Elisha Cuthbert dates another meathead with skates?

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#24 ronaldr
June 20 2009, 02:29PM
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Good point. So where is the wizard of oz, er, burke, with his righteous indignation of this crime against his "moral" code. Must be no rumours of him coming to the oilers.

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#25 B-rad
June 20 2009, 02:30PM
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Oh Flamers.....can't wait to watch episodes of "family fued" on sportsnet this year.

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#26 ronaldr
June 20 2009, 02:33PM
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@ Archaeologuy

After?

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#27 Archaeologuy
June 20 2009, 02:36PM
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@ ronaldr:

I just assumed it would take as long as it takes for another player to walk in front of her.

*wishes he hadnt have quit hockey when he was 11 because practice made his knees sweat*

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#28 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 02:37PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

How long after he’s missing before Elisha Cuthbert dates another meathead with skates?

I play hockey.

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#29 Archaeologuy
June 20 2009, 02:38PM
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@ Travis Dakin:

That's all it takes Travis. That's all it takes.

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#30 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 02:40PM
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@ Archaeologuy: Thank God.

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#31 ronaldr
June 20 2009, 02:45PM
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ooo! ooo! ooo! I play hockey too. Hello miss cuthbert Oh, you actually touched that swamp creature that dresses in red!?!...ummm...Penicillin please...hurry!

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#32 TonyT
June 20 2009, 02:48PM
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Mikey #2 wrote:

Laviolette too??? Wow looks like they are trying to copy the Oilers.Who would have thought any team would copy anything the Oilers do.

Wow, not really surprised but this just confirms that Calgary really does like their "sloppy seconds."

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#33 Jasmine
June 20 2009, 03:27PM
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@ Mikey #2: He seems to want to criticize the Oilers is why the post was made.

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#34 Jasmine
June 20 2009, 03:39PM
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Mikey #2 wrote:

What makes them more formidable than Quinn and Renney??? Just curious what you base that point on.

The guy you quoted seems like a Flames fan who posted in this thread so he could criticize the Oilers. Why else did he criticize the Oilers hiring Quinn/Renney? Quinn won a gold medal at the Olympics which neither Sutter nor Laviolette have. Considering the Laviolette is just a rumour and nothing more. If I were Laviolette I wouldn't sign on as an associate coach. Renney only accepted the associate coach with because it was with Quinn. He woudldn't have done it with anyone else.

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#35 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 03:54PM
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@ Jasmine: No I've bled Copper/Orange and blue since 1980. Don't you ever say something like that again! HAHA

I didnt' criticize Quinn and Renney. I simply stated that a pairing of Sutter and Laviolette, to me, is a better option than Quinn and Renney. But having said that, I honestly believe that the tandem of Quinn and Renney will match up very favourably to ANY other team in the league. An Olympic Gold Medal is not the Stanley Cup.

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#36 Victoria
June 20 2009, 04:00PM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

@ Travis Dakin: That’s all it takes Travis. That’s all it takes.

I don't know, money might be a factor, too.

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#37 Elisha Cuthbert
June 20 2009, 05:14PM
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Meet me in the back room in fifteen minutes, Travis.

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#38 Librarian Mike
June 20 2009, 05:21PM
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Elisha Cuthbert wrote:

Meet me in the back room in fifteen minutes, Travis.

...and Travis; watch out for terrorists and cougars. This girl is a magnet for them.

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#39 Chris
June 20 2009, 05:25PM
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Mikey #2 wrote:

What makes them more formidable than Quinn and Renney??? Just curious what you base that point on.

I bet Brent knows Iginla is NOT a center.

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#40 West Coast Oil
June 20 2009, 06:13PM
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I too thought Cuthbert was hot then I had the image of her and the Mongoloid getting it on. My feelingd for her are now dead.. :(

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#41 Ogden Brother
June 20 2009, 06:47PM
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Chris wrote:

Mikey #2 wrote: What makes them more formidable than Quinn and Renney??? Just curious what you base that point on. I bet Brent knows Iginla is NOT a center.

Ahaha

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#42 alphah.
June 20 2009, 08:56PM
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can't these posts be relegated to a side frame or at least have an option to disable them for actual Oilers fans? Its obvious that Wanye is a Flames/Canucks fan at heart but why should the rest of us have to suffer? .. Oh, and.. I fully expect this post to be ignored like all the rest of em.

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#43 freeze
June 20 2009, 09:03PM
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son of a bitch.

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#44 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 09:18PM
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@ alphah.: I see you. I hear you. I feel you.

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#45 Travis Dakin
June 20 2009, 09:18PM
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Elisha Cuthbert wrote:

Meet me in the back room in fifteen minutes, Travis.

You didn't show up. Friggin tease.

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#46 kingsblade
June 20 2009, 09:50PM
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Lefebvre wrote:

I honestly believed that Brent would stay away because he was of the opinion that no NHL organization was big enough for both of these particular Sutter brothers.

I assumed the same thing. I'm pretty surprised they are going to do this, and I'm not sure it will turn out well if they do.

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#47 Elisha Cuthbert
June 20 2009, 10:26PM
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@ Travis Dakin: I meant the other back room.

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#48 The Menace
June 20 2009, 10:34PM
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I assume this means the Hitmen will be instructed to roll over for the Rebels.

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#49 B-Rad
June 20 2009, 10:44PM
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The Rebels are bad.......The Hitmen would have to trade alot of players away for them to be able to lose to the Rebs! @ The Menace:

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#50 Travis Dakin
June 21 2009, 07:42AM
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Elisha Cuthbert wrote:

@ Travis Dakin: I meant the other back room.

I don't like going in through that door....

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