2009-10 Oilers Goats and Stars

bingofuel
September 30 2009 12:30PM

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It's become a tradition: every year at OilersNation (and at our sister sites FlamesNation and CanucksArmy), our writers and commenters pick their stars — that one player who they will praise without end no matter what — and their goats — their yearly whipping-boy; he who can do no good for the season.

And this season is no exception.

Your stalwart writers running the ship this year, Robin Brownlee, Jason Gregor, Jonathan Willis, Amber McCormick, bingofuel, and Wanye Gretz (who has already picked his star and his goat), have submitted their goats and stars for the 2009-10 Oilers hockey season. Who will you pick?

Jonathan Willis' Star and Goat

Star: Lubomir Visnovsky.

Visnovsky was Edmonton's best defenseman last year whn healthy, and he's the kind of player Pat Quinn loves.  If the powerplay turns around, Visnovsky will be a big part of it; if the team manages to score more goals five-on-five, Visnovsky will be a part of that too.  He was a star last season, and with good health should be more than that.

Goat: Nikolai Khabibulin.

I hope this prediction doesn't come true. I really, really do. There's just too many danger signs to pick someone else, though. He's 36 years old. He's been consistently injured pretty much every season since the lockout. Last time he signed a four-year contract, he stunk up the joint for the first two years, was mediocre in the third year, and came on strong in the fourth year - after management had gone out and spent money on a replacement.

Maybe things will be different this time. For the team to have success, they'll need to be.

Jason Gregor's Star and Goat

Star: JF Jacques

Sure, I could have picked one of the smurf-like forwards, who will undoubtedly outscore Jacques, but they are supposed to do that. Jacques will play in 71 games this year, and that will guarantee the Oilers will dress four forwards who are six feet or taller every game. Regardless of what system they play, they aren’t big enough upfront and having Jacques contribute every night will make a difference. He will be one of the few Oiler forwards to set career highs in goals, assists and points this year. I can’t see many guys matching that, so how can Jacques not be a star.

Goat: Marc Pouliot

If he is on the team, then I can’t see the Oilers improving. He doesn’t hit, he doesn’t check, he doesn’t score and I don’t think he thinks the game well enough to help the Oilers. Sure, he might go to another organization and score nine goals, which will have some Poulioholics whining that the Oilers gave up on another young prospect, but I will say good riddance if it happens. If Pouliot is on this team, they aren’t good enough.

Robin Brownlee's Star and Goat

Star: Mike Comrie

While it's a toss-up for me between Comrie and Patrick O'Sullivan, I'm going with MC because he's got a way of shoving it up the backsides of people who doubt him.

With all the bittnerness that accompanied Comrie's departure in 2003, he's got something to prove this time around. While I'm guessing he'll face a smattering of boos when he returns, fans being what they are, it won't be long until they're saluting him again -- with more than one finger.

Goat: Nikolai Khabibulin

Just a hunch, but The Bulin Wall had more bad seasons than good during his last contract before signing on with the Oilers for the next 17 years. Khabibulin, 36, is on the downside of his career and if he slips and a breaks a hip, it could get ugly in a hurry. With JDD as the back-up plan, what could possibly go wrong?

Amber McCormick's Star and Goat

Star: Ales Hemsky

Ales Hemsky. Over the past couple seasons he has surprised me. In 2006-07 I was always worried he was going to vomit going in circles around the net. Every season he takes more chances. Some work and some don’t but the hunger is there. I really think this is the season that will make him a star.

Goat: Dustin Penner

Without a doubt, Dustin Penner will reside in my dog house (and no, that’s no a euphemism for anything). There was a time when I forgave him for everything due to his purdy eyes but those days are far behind me. It will take a miracle and him giving up donairs cold-turkey to make me care about him again.

*Sidebar* I hate to admit this but I have a feeling Mike Comrie is hell-bent on making Edmonton eat its words. A lot of time has passed since he left in his huff and now he’s back with the Duff. Hometown pride is a powerful thing no matter how much you’re booed.

bingofuel's Star and Goat

Star: Nikolai Khabibulin

Knowing what little I do about hockey, and the scant few things I know about the Oilers, I'm going with the Bulin Wall for my star. The Oilers are well known for relying on very little other than their goaltender to scrape through games. I don't expect this year will be any different. Also, I just want to see how many boos and hisses I get for this one.

Goat: Steve Staios

I like Steve Staios. I have nothing against the man personally. He has lots of heart. But old, old balls. Staios will be inconsistent at best this year. At worst, the poor man will bust a hip. Hopefully he'll take a few opposing players out in the process.

The competition

You can also read about the competition's goats and stars:

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#1 2009-10 Flames Goats and Stars - OilersNation.com
September 30 2009, 12:32PM
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[...] OilersNation Writers’ Stars and Goats [...]

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#2 Reggie
September 30 2009, 12:33PM
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Goat: Comrie (forgiveness don't come easy) Star: Sully

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#3 BUCK75
September 30 2009, 12:39PM
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~Who is this Amber McCormick? She still has writer credentials? ;)~

Totally agree with Willis' take on Khabi - although I picked Staios to be MY goat. BAHHHHHHH!

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#4 RossCreek
September 30 2009, 12:40PM
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STAR - O'Sullivan (honorable mentions: Comrie & Penner) GOAT - Staios (honorable mention: Pouliot)

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#5 ninjafoot
September 30 2009, 12:41PM
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I agree 100% with Gregor's goat. MAP is a bum and needs to be dispatched immediately to the doldrums of the AHL,ECHL, KHL or whatever league will take the useless piece of s#*t. Maybe he can go carry Crosby's equipment bag in Pittsburgh.

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#6 Reggie
September 30 2009, 12:42PM
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RossCreek wrote:

GOAT – Staios (honorable mention: Pouliot)

or is that dishonorable mention ? LOL

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#7 ronaldo
September 30 2009, 12:44PM
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Please please please please please let Khabi not be our goat this year. Please.

I will stick to my former picks as changing is for weaklings, that and it's easy to look up.

Star: Sully Goat: Staios

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#8 Petr's Jofa
September 30 2009, 12:44PM
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As I predicted long ago in Wanye's blogs:

Star - Jacques Goat - Khabibulin

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#9 ChamucksDeluxe
September 30 2009, 12:46PM
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Star: Dany Heat- I mean.. ahem.. Ales Hemsky Goat: Khabibulin

2nd Star: Toni Rajala and his 1,000 pt season in Brandon.

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#10 OILER84
September 30 2009, 12:48PM
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STAR: JDD, The wall will fall and JDD will save us.

GOAT: Staios, too old, too slow, too much MONEY.

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#11 ChamucksDeluxe
September 30 2009, 12:50PM
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@ OILER84: Cheeky pick, me likey!

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#12 Mike Lauck
September 30 2009, 12:52PM
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RossCreek wrote:

STAR – O’Sullivan (honorable mentions: Comrie & Penner) GOAT – Staios (honorable mention: Pouliot)

You read my mind before I could post.

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#13 Dan the Man
September 30 2009, 12:53PM
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Star: Penner Goat: Khabibulin...this frightens me but I'm more concerned about the Bulin wall than the size of our forwards.

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#14 Jonathan Willis
September 30 2009, 12:54PM
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ninjafoot wrote:

MAP is a bum and needs to be dispatched immediately to the doldrums of the AHL,ECHL, KHL or whatever league will take the useless piece of s#*t.

Turns out there isn't a professional league in the world that won't take him.

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#15 Shakey
September 30 2009, 12:55PM
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Did Amber say that Penner sleeps in her dog house?

Kinky...

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#16 socaldave
September 30 2009, 12:55PM
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I picked these a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not changing my mind:

HERO: Horcoff

GOAT: Gagner

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#17 SquidRx
September 30 2009, 12:56PM
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Star: Gagner (Quinn has lit the fire and Samwise is smoldering) Goat: Nilsson (This extends to which ever team he ends up playing with)

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#18 ChamucksDeluxe
September 30 2009, 12:57PM
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In other news Jamie Lundmark cleared waivers..

8G 8A in 26 games +2 51% on in the circle ...and hes 6ft 200lbs.

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#19 Alon
September 30 2009, 12:59PM
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Star - Dustin Penner - After two years of disappointing play, if he can go hard for all 82 I think he wins the hearts of Oiler fans back. (HM: JFJ, and Comrie)

Goat - JDD - If the wall falls, JDD falls harder, faster, and it will be a much more miserable experience.

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#20 freeze
September 30 2009, 01:00PM
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Repeat from Wanye's Goat post:

Star: Penner – he will use his size this year. He was also a runner up for my goat but I’m going to be optimistic.

Goat: Moreau – old, slow and selfish. He will expose himself and will hopefully be gone before the end of the season.

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#21 Petr's Jofa
September 30 2009, 01:02PM
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Alon wrote:

Star – Dustin Penner – After two years of disappointing play, if he can go hard for all 82 I think he wins the hearts of Oiler fans back. (HM: JFJ, and Comrie) Goat – JDD – If the wall falls, JDD falls harder, faster, and it will be a much more miserable experience.

Wouldn't that make Khabibulin, the veteran starter with the 4 year, $16 million contact, the goat?

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#22 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
September 30 2009, 01:03PM
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Star: Gagner

Goat: Pisani

I have to stick to my guns on this one.

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#23 imissedmonton
September 30 2009, 01:04PM
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Star = Comrie (has something to prove to the other teams in the NHL and to Edmonton Fans)

Goat = Penner just because i think he is over paid for what he brings

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#24 ronaldo
September 30 2009, 01:05PM
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freeze wrote:

He will expose himself

On the ice?

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#25 King Mob
September 30 2009, 01:05PM
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"Old, old balls"

ahahahaaha

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#26 Reileycat
September 30 2009, 01:08PM
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Star: Comrie (never thought I'd say that but it gives me warm fuzzies now)

Goat: Khabibulin

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#27 scorecoff hemmercules
September 30 2009, 01:10PM
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My goat from the beginning has been Bulin. Never liked that signing. 2 years, ok. 4 years, barf. I pray every night that he doesn't get hurt and the season hasn't even started yet.

Gagner was my star on Wanye's article. Right now it's not looking good, but you will all see....you will see......

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#28 Morghasm
September 30 2009, 01:10PM
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Star: O'Sullivan - the kid is young and had some struggles after the trade last year, but I think this season he will shine. Honourable mention to Comrie, but mostly cause the POS+Comrie chemistry looks promising.

Goat: Moreau - dude drives me increasingly more nuts with every game. The terrible penalties, the lack of back-check and hussle, the inability to keep up with everything else that's going on, and the fact that he's still got that damn C on his jersey. I'm hoping the Quinn regime means no more free rides for thecaptainethanmoreau.

And I also choose to cling in blind hope to bingofuel's choice of the Bulin Wall for a star. Oh please, please, please, please, please let this come true.....

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#29 MattL
September 30 2009, 01:11PM
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STAR: O'Sullivan -Irish boss for the guy with the most Irishey name ever. Can't miss! Will break team record for shots/season with 7,459.

GOAT: Thecaptainethanmoreau -Will try to make up for declining skills with increasingly wild/erratic defensive play. If he has the puck in the opposition end, it never goes anywhere but the goalie's chest. Skate down wing, shoot. Skate down wing, shoot. Good luck making the third line, Gagner.

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#30 Mills
September 30 2009, 01:11PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Jacques contribute every night will make a difference. He will be one of the few Oiler forwards to set career highs in goals, assists and points this year. I can’t see many guys matching that, so how can Jacques not be a star.

For this to happen all Jacques needs is 2 goals and 1 assist. I hope he breaks this record in the first five games of this year.

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#31 Robin Brownlee
September 30 2009, 01:11PM
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Jason: "He will be one of the few Oiler forwards to set career highs in goals, assists and points this year. I can’t see many guys matching that, so how can Jacques not be a star."

Wow! Career highs for Jacques? That's setting the bar high.

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#32 MattL
September 30 2009, 01:13PM
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@ Morghasm:

Haha, nice picks Morghasm. I should have hit "post" five seconds earlier. Or not at all.

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#33 Rigger
September 30 2009, 01:15PM
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socaldave wrote:

I picked these a couple of weeks ago, and I’m not changing my mind: HERO: Horcoff GOAT: Gagner

Horcoff....really?

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#34 Poo Czar
September 30 2009, 01:16PM
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Star: Brule! (I like to say it like "Olé!", with a flourish). No expectations. Long dormant hands ready to ignite and it looks like someone kicked his dog. Love it.

Goat: JDD - Le BAAAAAA!!!! Au secours! C'est trés terriblé! Pourquoi mon visage a-t-il l'air d'une chèvre?

(I copy and pasted the "é", so I figured what the hell, get some mileage while it's queued up tin the Ctrl-v chamber)

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#35 Rigger
September 30 2009, 01:17PM
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MattL wrote:

STAR: O’Sullivan -Irish boss for the guy with the most Irishey name ever. Can’t miss! Will break team record for shots/season with 7,459. GOAT: Thecaptainethanmoreau -Will try to make up for declining skills with increasingly wild/erratic defensive play. If he has the puck in the opposition end, it never goes anywhere but the goalie’s chest. Skate down wing, shoot. Skate down wing, shoot. Good luck making the third line, Gagner.

That poor kid. Yeesh!

Star: Toss up between Patty O and MC.

Goat: So many to choose from (I'm lookin at you Bobby, Moreau, Staio), but I'm gonna stick with Poo. That guy has GOT to go.

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#36 Petr's Jofa
September 30 2009, 01:18PM
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ronaldo wrote:

On the ice?

Maybe Morreau's a big fan of Ned Braden

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#37 scorecoff hemmercules
September 30 2009, 01:18PM
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@bingofuel

Wasn't Wanye saying something about a month ago about revamping the site?? When does that happen or was it just for the playoffs if the oilers ever make it??

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#38 vern
September 30 2009, 01:18PM
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Star:Comrie - He has something to prove and is playing for a new contract. He should end up with the best point per dollar on the team.

Goat:Pisani - More for games missed than his play. Pisani is a hard worker and good 2 way player. The problem is his injuries and the time it takes to come back from them. If he stays wih the team i could see him missing 30 - 40 games this season.

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#39 Morghasm
September 30 2009, 01:19PM
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@ MattL: Au contraire - clearly we've just proven how brilliant we both are. Either that or you cheated off me, in which case I take all the credit.

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#40 Jeff
September 30 2009, 01:20PM
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Star - Jacques - I think he's going to score 25 goals and add another 30 assists.

Goat- Moreau, He's done. Looked pretty much abysmal in the preseason. The worst forward I saw for sure and that includes some guys who were cut.

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#41 BUCK75
September 30 2009, 01:20PM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules:

I would imagine it would roll out sometime when the season starts - like last year.

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#42 MattL
September 30 2009, 01:21PM
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@ Morghasm:

hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_thinking

Clearly, both brilliant.

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#43 freeze
September 30 2009, 01:22PM
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ronaldo wrote:

On the ice?

Hmmmm, I hope I was only referring to his crappy play.... but you never know...

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#44 egp629
September 30 2009, 01:22PM
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My star = Sheldon Souray.

For goat = Nikolai Khabibulin and for my daily prayers I have added to be wrong on this one. However, the season has not even started and already he lost game time due to dehydration. That is one baaaaaaaaaaaaad sign. I wonder how they deal with the situation if both JDD and DD have respectable seasons this year. Is there another three headed monster in goal on the horizon for the Oilers???????

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#45 Rigger
September 30 2009, 01:22PM
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Poo Czar wrote:

Star: Brule! (I like to say it like “Olé!”, with a flourish). No expectations. Long dormant hands ready to ignite and it looks like someone kicked his dog. Love it. Goat: JDD – Le BAAAAAA!!!! Au secours! C’est trés terriblé! Pourquoi mon visage a-t-il l’air d’une chèvre? (I copy and pasted the “é”, so I figured what the hell, get some mileage while it’s queued up tin the Ctrl-v chamber)

Le gasp! LOL, poor horse face, er....JDD!

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#46 bingofuel
September 30 2009, 01:23PM
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@ scorecoff hemmercules:

We've actually been working closely with our development team since the beginning of September, and you should see a new and improved OilersNation.com very soon.

Wanye will be making a more concrete announcement closer to the launch date (which is still a moving target). Suffice to say, it's going to be better than anything we've ever done.

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#47 Death Metal Nightmare
September 30 2009, 01:24PM
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Star - Comrie. a sad choice when hes your star. but seems to compete hard every night and it pays off.

Goat - Gagner. youre not strong enough to be a star, kid. even if the title of Prince was handed to you by all of Edmonton.

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#48 blu
September 30 2009, 01:26PM
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Star: Much as I hate the man, Comrie.

Goat: Moreau, Nilsson, Stortini ...

Really surprised at only one person mentioning Nilsson for goat, actually.

Looking for good seasons from Hemsky, Penner and Horc too.

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#49 blu
September 30 2009, 01:28PM
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Actually, screw Comrie. Souray will be the star.

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#50 pilman
September 30 2009, 01:30PM
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Star - Comrie, expect career numbers flying under the radar of the other teams shut down lines. Goat - Comrie, July 1, 2010(wait till he leaves this time, when the Hamilton Berries sign him for 4.5 Mil for 5yrs, what no home town discount for the team that saved his career????)

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