Game No. 14: Some real injuries to deal with

Ryan Lambert
November 09 2010 05:17PM



Tonight presents Calgary with a helluva chance to get its act together against a concussion-addled, injury-depleted Avalanche team.

Calgary's roster will fortunately be bolstered by the return of the previously-absent Curtis Glencross, who was sorely missed in Friday's loss, but will also, unfortunately, feature the likes of Steve Staios, again, as Brendan Mikkelsson seems to have run over at least one of the Sutters' dogs.

(Let's be perfectly clear with regard to the Staios situation: he was barely a viable option when there were literally no other defensemen on the roster. Now that there is one, and, it should be noted, one who doesn't completely and totally suck the life out of every single shift, he shouldn't be an option. No one is going to sit here and say Brendan Mikkelsson has been good, but he sure hasn't been Staios-bad. This concludes Today in Completely Logical Steve Staios Bashing and we now return you to your regularly scheduled game thread post.)

Luckily, the Flames' recent offensive woes may soon find a cure, as Colorado's defense is, shall we say, rather loosely patched together with that kinda slightly old hockey tape that still has some adhesion to it, but reminds you to go out and buy a fresh roll before your next beer league game. Scott Hannan and JM Liles is your top pairing and they're going to be asked to eat two helpings of minutes tonight.

I'm going to list the combined NHL games played of their four other defensemen in order, and you'll notice I won't once have to use double digits. Jonos Holos is the stalwart old war horse of the group with nine career games played, all of which have been this year. David Liffiton's picked up six over the past three years, three games this year, two with the Rangers last year, and one the year before. Kevin Shattenkirk just got done playing his second career game on Saturday. And that was Colby Cohen's NHL debut.

So on the plus side, you're looking at a Flames offense that's facing kids who have pretty much no relative NHL experience for about half — more likely a little over that — of the game. And that's in front of Peter Budaj in net who, historically, has been rather poor against Calgary.

I think the solution is clear: trap the absolute piss out of Colorado tonight. Don't give their forwards any room. And don't give up penalties. For the love of Dinosaur Jesus, don't do that.

 

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#1 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 06:09PM
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Dinosaur Jesus? That's a new one. I suspect it would make Baby Jesus cry.

Anyways, I'll make this the first comment: How would everyone like us to use "coveritlive" for gamethreads these days? I'm toying with the idea, but would like to know the level of interest first.

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#2 SmellOfVictory
November 09 2010, 06:15PM
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I'm putting Iginla down for at least two points, and at least one of them in goal form.

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#3 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 06:16PM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

I'm putting Iginla down for at least two points, and at least one of them in goal form.

Yeah, he's bound to get on the scoreboard at some point here. He won't see a more vulnerable opponent than the Avs tonight either.

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#4 SmellOfVictory
November 09 2010, 06:17PM
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If coveritlive is the live chat, I'm not greatly interested. I generally do my gamethread posting separately from my watching (commercial breaks, in-between periods, etc) and I think I'd personally miss out on a lot of discussion if it were done in that style. I can certainly see the draw for people who have a laptop with them or what have you, though.

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#5 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 06:53PM
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@SmellOfVictory

It's definitely a mixed bag. It's labor intensive at this end and conversation is more "live", leading to more activity, but less true discussion.

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#6 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 07:32PM
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Looks like Sutter is going to start the match with Glencross/Conroy/Jackman. Interesting choice.

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#7 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 07:41PM
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Just a terrible play and penalty by Sarich.

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#8 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 07:44PM
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Not the best of starts.

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#9 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 07:50PM
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CGY doesn't even have a shot on net yet. Guys...the Avs have a barely replacement level blueline tonight. FFS!

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#10 Rain Dogs
November 09 2010, 07:55PM
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Man, they look ugly thus far.

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#11 Pat Steinberg
November 09 2010, 07:59PM
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Looks like Sacco has gone with Duchene's unit against the Iginla unit to this point.

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#12 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:00PM
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@Pat Steinberg

I would too if I was him.

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#13 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:04PM
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Talk about your underwhelming periods. Jesus Flames.

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#14 M F
November 09 2010, 08:11PM
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@ Kent

With regard to the cover it live, I would highly suggest since it is kind of hard to comment on the go on this site.

Perhaps you could put a poll up to see what everyone thinks and decide from there.

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#15 M F
November 09 2010, 08:12PM
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Brandon Yip always seems to find his inner 80's Oilers shooting ability against the Flames

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#16 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:13PM
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Flames got some traction in the last 5 minutes and on the PP, but good lord what a lethargic start to this one.

Chances were 5-5.

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#17 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:14PM
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M F wrote:

@ Kent

With regard to the cover it live, I would highly suggest since it is kind of hard to comment on the go on this site.

Perhaps you could put a poll up to see what everyone thinks and decide from there.

Good idea. I'll probably do that tomorrow.

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#18 Robert Cleave
November 09 2010, 08:18PM
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Corsi.

CGY +2, EV shots 6-5 Colorado. I saw the last 10 minutes. Pretty meh, especially with the Avs dressing an AHL caliber D.

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#19 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:22PM
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@Robert Cleave

Yeah, not good enough. They have to be better for the rest of the game.

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#20 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:25PM
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BTW Bob...Playfair has scratched Mitch Wahl in 3 straight contests.

Sigh.

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#21 Robert Cleave
November 09 2010, 08:29PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

BTW Bob...Playfair has scratched Mitch Wahl in 3 straight contests.

Sigh.

The guy's been struggling, so I'm not surprised. He's a smart kid, but the game at the AHL level is a different animal from the Dub. I had no hopes of seeing him before about September of 2012 anyway, so if JP is trying to get his attention, c'est la vie.

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#22 Pat Steinberg
November 09 2010, 08:30PM
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Kent doesn't answer texts, so I'll use FlamesNation instead...are you joining me on Overtime tonight?

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#23 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:31PM
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Nice tip by GlenX. He should get more PP time.

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#24 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:36PM
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Much better period thus far.

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#25 SmellOfVictory
November 09 2010, 08:37PM
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Am I allowed to change my prediction from Iginla to Bourque?

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#26 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:41PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Much better period thus far.

And right after I type that, the Iginla line starts out in the offensive zone and sees the puck come back in their own end for 30+ seconds of panic time.

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#27 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:41PM
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@SmellOfVictory

Nope. Sorry.

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#28 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:43PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

The guy's been struggling, so I'm not surprised. He's a smart kid, but the game at the AHL level is a different animal from the Dub. I had no hopes of seeing him before about September of 2012 anyway, so if JP is trying to get his attention, c'est la vie.

True. I'd just really like to see positive arrows.

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#29 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:49PM
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Annnnddd...there's a horrible "PP" shift.

One step forward, two back.

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#30 Robert Cleave
November 09 2010, 08:53PM
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Nice pass by Staios on that play. Wrong team, of course, but why be picky?

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#31 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:53PM
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The wheels are coming off this period.

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#32 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 08:56PM
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Wow. And now Iginla's line is hemmed in by Winnik and O'Reilly.

This is hideous.

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#33 GermanFlame
November 09 2010, 08:57PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

Nice pass by Staios on that play. Wrong team, of course, but why be picky?

haha you sir, Just made my night.

Classic Staios, At least he completed the pass tape to tape on that play.

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#34 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 09:08PM
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Chances were 10-6 in favor of the Avs...that included an 8 chance run in the middle of the period.

Awful.

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#35 Nwr
November 09 2010, 09:08PM
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....ouch, playing an injury ridden team with all of our too players and get what 7 shots in the 2nd period and can just see the frustration in the team boil over at the periods end

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#36 Robert Cleave
November 09 2010, 09:12PM
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Corsi.

CGY +8, +6 in the period, but the Fenwick is CGY -1, so lots of blocked shots by Colorado. EV shots 13-10 Avs.

Iggy looks like he's checked out, again.

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#37 Rain Dogs
November 09 2010, 09:13PM
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Here's hoping for 1 good period out of three.

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#38 Resolute
November 09 2010, 09:16PM
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"Iggy looks like he's checked out, again."

Yeah, except for forcing two turnovers leading to a scoring chance and wiping Galliardi out...

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#39 Robert Cleave
November 09 2010, 09:18PM
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Resolute wrote:

"Iggy looks like he's checked out, again."

Yeah, except for forcing two turnovers leading to a scoring chance and wiping Galliardi out...

Standing around with a potential 3 on 2 developing as if he was waiting for a bus doesn't strike me as the action of a man entirely engaged, Res.

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#40 Rain Dogs
November 09 2010, 09:20PM
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@Robert Cleave

Corsi is quite flattering considering we're getting outshot 21 - 13.

How is it that we cannot get shots through against young, inexperienced defense?

Man, this team is frustrating for the Flames.

In good news, Vancouver lost.

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#41 R O
November 09 2010, 09:20PM
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Prior to the PP/4on4 at the end there, Iggy Stajan and I believe Hagman took the zone and through some miracle Iggy ended up with the puck just outside the high slot with no defenders within a 10 foot radius or thereaouts.

"Drive the net!!!" was probably heard from every Flames fan in Calgary.

Good thing it's an away game.

I mean what is that??? That's a Jokinen move. Jesus murphy.

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#42 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 09:20PM
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Resolute wrote:

"Iggy looks like he's checked out, again."

Yeah, except for forcing two turnovers leading to a scoring chance and wiping Galliardi out...

He was a disaster for the entire period besides that one play.

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#43 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 09:21PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

Corsi.

CGY +8, +6 in the period, but the Fenwick is CGY -1, so lots of blocked shots by Colorado. EV shots 13-10 Avs.

Iggy looks like he's checked out, again.

It's pretty much all on the back of GlenX and Bourque, who have been the primary bright spots tonight.

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#44 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 09:23PM
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At least the Flames didn't get behind on the scoreboard in that one. They can win the game by winning this period.

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#45 Rain Dogs
November 09 2010, 09:23PM
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Hagman looks a bit more fired up tonight as well.

Where the heck has Morrison been? I don't think I've seen him once tonight

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#46 Resolute
November 09 2010, 09:27PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

Standing around with a potential 3 on 2 developing as if he was waiting for a bus doesn't strike me as the action of a man entirely engaged, Res.

Maybe, maybe not, but negative bias is not one of my very favourite things. It is ridiculous to argue he "checked out again" immediately after his most engaged play of the game - and he wasn't exactly terrible in the first.

And oh look, the referees are trying to buy Colorado a goal!

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#47 Robert Cleave
November 09 2010, 09:29PM
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Hate to say it, but that's on Moss. 5 on 3 is tough, but that puck has to get out.

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#48 R O
November 09 2010, 09:35PM
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Thought Moss caught a ton of stick play there. A Flame forecheck like that would have been a penalty for sure

Don't know how anyone in their right mind could defend Iggy this game. Out and out terrible.

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#49 Kent Wilson
November 09 2010, 09:38PM
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I'm going on OT with Steinberg tonight and unless the Flames turn a 180 in the third here, I'm not sure what I can say about this club aside from "I just don't know anymore".

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#50 SmellOfVictory
November 09 2010, 09:38PM
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They might not be doing so well in games, but at least the Flames have the second skinniest player to play in the NHL this season (Brodie).

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