Don't Panic

Kent Wilson
December 02 2010 12:09PM

 

 

Darren Dreger has an article up today at TSN saying the Flames ownership is committed to "staying the course" despite the unfortunate position the team currently finds itself in (as well as the resultant public outcry to do something). The comments at the bottom are...predictable.

There might be some wisdom in holding steady, however. Darryl Sutter's actions last season in response to the club underachieving are an object lesson in how acting in desperation can in fact have detrimental consequences. In his spate of irrationality, Sutter dealt his shiniest bobble for a mediocre return, swapped headaches with the Rangers to ill-effect and then dealt actual assets to the Oilers for the privilege of accepting their Staiosian salary dump.

The Flames, as they are currently built, aren't in a position to make a drastic change of course. Not without taking a flame-thrower to the roster and management, which is probably a poor strategy in the middle of the season. Calgary has bad money all over it's roster, an untenable cap position and even it's most valuable assets have lost some of their luster with the club groping around in the dark. To deal away the anchors, the Flames would have to accept toxic contracts themselves, or at least package draft picks in the deals to sweeten the pot. They'd likely get bent over a barrel in trades involving the big guns; selling low on your best assets means getting pennies on the dollar in return. Or middling Leafs parts, as it were. 

At this point in time, the Calgary Flames are what they are - a mediocre team with nominal prospects to improve - and there isn't a single knee-jerk reaction that is going to materially change their fortunes this season. This isn't a call to stick with the status quo ad inifinitum of course. Just a word of caution against the raging impulse to "do something...do anything".

The long view is likely to become the proper perspective in short order. The ownership should shut out the sound and fury of the current, on-going struggles of the team and calmly assess what the hell they're going to do with this mess next off-season.

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#51 sincity1976
December 02 2010, 08:25PM
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Panic? No. No need to throw away assets in a blind hail marry pass like he did last season. Make intelligent moves with the intent of rebuilding? Yes. Absolutely.

Iginla is worth something. He is worth something now. He is worth something at the deadline. And he will be worth something in the off season.

If you find a deal that is worthwhile, do it. Better then waiting until the off season and putting him up against Richards, Semin, Spezza, and other's and being desperate to make a deal before the start of the season.

If you don't find a deal. Wait. But keep looking. Its time to start evaluating trade value and option.

You can put similar situations up for players like Kipper and Regher. This team isn't going to be a contender in the window of time these players have left. Start getting players this club can build on.

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#52 hal a pena
December 02 2010, 08:26PM
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kipper to tbay,rags to the east as well perhaps atlanta needs a shutdown dman. ellis and a pick for kipper sounds do able. philly always needs a goalie as well. oilers and flames now tied for the bottom position.

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#53 maggotbrain
December 02 2010, 08:54PM
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Hi there nation long time listener first time caller. Wasn't it time to at least start thinking about rebuilding two years ago? It has been clear since then that this is an inconsistent team without the top end to actually compete for a cup. I say start looking for good deals to get younger now because I don't want to think what this team will look like next year if management decides to "keep staying the course"

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#54 dotfras
December 02 2010, 09:51PM
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All Darryl needs is a list of Do's & Don'ts to guide him through transactions.

Do: Trade aging core players for prospects/picks.

Do: Dump salary.

Don't: Trade with bottom feeder teams unless you are getting a high end prospect/pick.

Don't: Trade with Toronto cause they don't have either.

Don't: Trade our 1st round pick for anyone close to or over 30.

Pretty easy.

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#55 Monaertchi Gaudnett
December 03 2010, 08:01AM
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I've read a couple of posts here regarding Iggy's leadership. I don't see it.

Prior to 2004 the Flames were crap.

In 2004 they surged to near greatness with 15 playoff wins.

Since 2004 they've been a steadily declining team and are now total crap again.

What made 2004 different? Darryl behind the bench. Every other scenario for the last 20 years has lead to a crap team that can't get into or out of the first round.

What's been the same over most of the last 20 years? Jarome. Having the most skill isn't leadership; it's genetics, hard work, and practice. Sure, hard work is a required element of leadership, but it's certainly only a part and not the whole. I don't see that Iggy's leadership has ever helped this team to be anything better than mediocre, and sometimes not even that.

Let the hate-fest begin!

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#56 Monaertchi Gaudnett
December 03 2010, 08:10AM
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Iginla, Langkow, Stajan, Bourque, Kotalik, Jokinen, Tanguay, Bouwmeester, Regehr, Sarich, and Kiprusoff.

These guys all have NTC or NMC contracts according to Cap Geek, so the chances of Darryl trading them are very low. He'd have to find a willing trade partner and get the player to agree to waive the clause.

All of these guys will be back next year, with the possible exception of Tanguay because his contract is only for this year.

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#57 PrairieStew
December 03 2010, 08:20AM
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@Monaertchi Gaudnett

It's not pretty Beeker.

All of those NTC's make it just about pointless to change the GM at this time

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#58 walkinvisible
December 03 2010, 08:42AM
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@Monaertchi Gaudnett

people 'round these parts have been saying for years that regehr would make a far better captain. i wouldn't expect a hate-fest.

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#59 walkinvisible
December 03 2010, 08:43AM
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Monaertchi Gaudnett wrote:

Iginla, Langkow, Stajan, Bourque, Kotalik, Jokinen, Tanguay, Bouwmeester, Regehr, Sarich, and Kiprusoff.

These guys all have NTC or NMC contracts according to Cap Geek, so the chances of Darryl trading them are very low. He'd have to find a willing trade partner and get the player to agree to waive the clause.

All of these guys will be back next year, with the possible exception of Tanguay because his contract is only for this year.

ntc/nmc just means the player has to okay the trade, it doesn't mean they can't be traded.

who's gonna wanna get the hell outta dodge in another month or so ? EVERYBODY...

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#60 CitizenFlame
December 03 2010, 09:26AM
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Iggy already said that if the team told him they were ready to go in another direction he would consider waiving his NTC. I don't think that it would be that difficult to move these guys.

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#61 Backburner
December 03 2010, 10:14AM
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I'll admit I am one of the many delusional fans trying to create a 'what if' senario during this time of hopeless frustration... but shouldn't the Flames take a run at Stamkos or Tavares?

I know they're "untouchable"... but who wouldn't give up Kipper, Gio, Backlund, Bourque.. or any of our top players for one of them??

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#62 B
December 03 2010, 10:35AM
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@Backburner

...I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

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#63 CitizenFlame
December 03 2010, 10:38AM
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I don't know if I would give up Stamkos for all of those players combined. That's like trading a star player for spare parts from one of the worst teams in the league... wait, that sounds familiar?

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#64 dotfras
December 03 2010, 11:04AM
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Tavares is realistic. Stamkos never going to happen.

The Islanders are a brutal team with no real future. They have also handed out some pretty interesting contracts.

Pretty sure Alexi Yashin is their highest paid player.

Tavares for Hagman, Regher & a prospect like Macmillan or Keith?

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#65 hal a pena
December 03 2010, 12:15PM
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i agree the rebuild should have started two years ago, however darrylls primary focus was on securing lucrative positions for his kin. dewey has not developed any talent,yet is the man in charge of player development,i believe thats an oxymoron. player development lol well with the flames it is. brent is coach, the twins are scouts, who else, oh ya the golden brett. at best an echl talent. talk to hockey folks in cranbrook about his skill level. nmc have ruined this club. dynamite is needed. however any half way sensible hockey guy knows derl stutter is over a barrel.and its all self inflicted wounds through arraogance. i may have never played in the n darryl but i remeber a guy named scotty bowman, and another guy named jimmy dell that didnt and they have won a cup or two. trade trade trade. garbage in garbage out.

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#66 Monaertchi Gaudnett
December 03 2010, 12:35PM
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PrairieStew wrote:

It's not pretty Beeker.

All of those NTC's make it just about pointless to change the GM at this time

I couldn't disagree more. All those NTC are exactly why he should be fired now which is already too late, but as WI pointed out, do it now so he can't eff things up any more.

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#67 PrairieStew
December 03 2010, 03:11PM
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Monaertchi Gaudnett wrote:

I couldn't disagree more. All those NTC are exactly why he should be fired now which is already too late, but as WI pointed out, do it now so he can't eff things up any more.

I guess trading the picks could happen as a means to try and salvage this year, or a further downgrade of the assets acquired from Phaneuf ( did you miss my Babchuk for Belak crack ?)

I guess my point is that the roster is pretty much fixed and might even be fixed tighter if you fire Sutter

For example :

Say you're a loyal character Flame like Regehr, who was given a NTC by D Sutter. Ownership fires him and brings in new cocky young guy as GM, who as one of his first actions is to call you in to the room and ask to waive your no trade clause. What do you think the likelihood is that you pull your kids out of school in January to take them to Washington or Philadelphia ? I actually think the guys are pretty loyal to him and might be more likely to waive the NTC with him as a personal favour.

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#68 DarthTater
December 03 2010, 03:12PM
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@Monaertchi Gaudnett

Actually in 2004 I would say the BEST leadership was shown by Gelinas......remember? the guy they ran out of town but he wanted to stay !!!!

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