Free Agent Open Thread

Kent Wilson
June 30 2010 10:28PM

PHILADELPHIA - APRIL 20: Ilya Kovalchuk #17 of the New Jersey Devils skates against the Philadelphia Flyers in Game Four of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals during the 2010 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at the Wachovia Center on April 20, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Flyers defeated the Devils 4-1 to take a three games to one lead in their best of seven series. (Photo by Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)

I was going to prepare a Flames primer to free agency, but decided not to re-invent the wheel when I saw Haley had already done an admiral job of things. Make sure to visit M&G for a thorugh overview.

I have to say, this is perhaps the murkiest July 1 for the Flames I've seen since the lock-out. Previously, whether facing many or few obstacles, the obstacles were at least apparently obvious.

Not so this year. The Flames cap room is not only tenuous but also completely muddied by Dawes (buy-out?)

Kotalik (uh...waived for an as-of-right-now unclear purpose) and pending $3M+ contract of Ian White (maybe?). The lackluster free agent pool makes things even less certain - we know the Flames want "offense", but there's no clear method to acquire the requisite players. Big trade on it's way? Almost every Flame worth anything on the trade market has a NTC. And the club doesn't have much in the way of prospects or draft picks to dangle either.

As such, we enter things almost completely blind. There's a chance the coming week will end without any significant changes whatsoever. And probably an equal chance the face of the team may have been altered irrevocably. We can only sit back and watch as things unfold. And hope.

Anyways, Pat, Bob, Myself and Ross Creek will endeavor to keep up with on-the-spot updates and analysis as things come down tomorrow. Feel free to share you comments, questions, fears, hopes, dreams and reactions in the comments.

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#151 RossCreekNation
July 01 2010, 12:26PM
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Uh-oh. Via Ryan Rishaug...

NYR, Flames and Oilers likely in the mix on Boogard. Rangers lost shelley to Philli, they like their knuckle chuckers out there

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#152 Arik
July 01 2010, 12:28PM
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@RossCreekNation

There may be much beer and sobbing tonight.

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#153 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:28PM
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Emir wrote:

What if its Sutter offering that contract to Boogaard.... If so, mass suicide taking place in Calgary lol

Anyone paying 1.65 for Boogard who is solidly a one dimensional player is retarded. I think he had a goal last year I guess.

I have a black cat/Friday the 13th feeling about the Boogard thing with the Flames.

Maybe he's the "one player" that makes the Flames an "elite" team again. LOL :D

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#154 Emir
July 01 2010, 12:30PM
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Yeah I think Boogaard is the diamond in the rough, we just need to put him on the top line with Iggy and im sure he will notch 100 pts lol

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#155 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:31PM
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Paul Martin a Pen? That's a pretty strong D reboot there.

That's a good signing for them

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#157 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:34PM
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GAWD, I shouldn't laugh. Every time I think "There's no way that's true", it happens. I remember thinking "There's no way that Kotalik will pull on Flames silks."

Epic fail for me.

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#158 Arik
July 01 2010, 12:36PM
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Boogard went to the Rags. Thank god.

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#159 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:36PM
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BOOGARD TO RANGERS!!!

THANK GOD FOR SATHER!!

He's the only GM I've scratched my head with more than Sutter

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#160 RossCreekNation
July 01 2010, 12:36PM
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Oh, thank God. Slats saves the day.

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#161 Emir
July 01 2010, 12:38PM
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THANK GOD!!!! Phew! Boogaard in NYR, the land of overpaid garbage on skates.

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#162 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:39PM
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Thank god they say hes going to the NYR. I honestly dont think dutter would sign a puglist this year. Butter didnt use MacG much last year. They should go after someone who can fight but also play (hello prust)!

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#163 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:39PM
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They should go after Downie for the 4th line.

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#164 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:40PM
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Or Asham. The possibilities are endless.

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#165 jbeach403
July 01 2010, 12:45PM
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Boogard hasnt scored in FOUR YEARS. that is insane.

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#166 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:45PM
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What happened to Kovalchuk and Nabokov? Kovalchuk is likely getting a lot of interest but Nabokov is going to find it very tough to get a contract considering just about all of the teams in need of a starting goalie have their issues solved. Sucks for him... he was never that good really.

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#167 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:46PM
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Reportedly Boogard is 4 years 6 million +

I'm happy I'm not a Rangers fan today.

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#168 Emir
July 01 2010, 12:46PM
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Considering the flames farm system; i'm positive there is 4th line talent somewhere in there. Thats the last thing we need to do, use free agency to fill out the 4th line lol.

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#170 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:49PM
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So Pitts has spent over 10 mill per season on 2 defenders. It really has to make you wonder how they have the cap space for Jordan Staal on the 3rd line. Dutter should explore that...

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#171 Emir
July 01 2010, 12:49PM
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Brent G. wrote:

What happened to Kovalchuk and Nabokov? Kovalchuk is likely getting a lot of interest but Nabokov is going to find it very tough to get a contract considering just about all of the teams in need of a starting goalie have their issues solved. Sucks for him... he was never that good really.

The reason they dont have contracts yet is cuz its close to 11pm in moscow and the H & B special is wild tonight.

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#172 Robert Cleave
July 01 2010, 12:50PM
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Derek Boogaard. Glen Sather. That's absolutely spectacular.

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#173 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:50PM
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Just some quick math...

Boogard could optimistically be expected to average 3 minutes a game for 70 games I figure. 6 Million over 4 years is 1.25 million per year which means that he'll get paid $5952.38 per minute.

It's good money if you can get it I guess.

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#174 marty
July 01 2010, 12:51PM
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what time is the presser today? so are we going to get a centre or are we signing frolov???

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#176 B
July 01 2010, 12:52PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Oh sather...Don't ever change.

...LOL. Agreed.

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#177 marty
July 01 2010, 12:53PM
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tanguay only 50k more than boogard? hahaha

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#178 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:54PM
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marty wrote:

what time is the presser today? so are we going to get a centre or are we signing frolov???

That would be incredible. I wonder what hes worth. Funny you dont hear too much about him today. If he could be had for about 2.5 to 3 he would fit perfectly in on the 1st/2nd line.

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#179 marty
July 01 2010, 12:55PM
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we need that live chat thing from the draft any chance of that kent??

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#180 Gange
July 01 2010, 12:56PM
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The only thing I can think about Slats at this point is:

Mr. Burns: [holding a model airplane] We'll take the spruce moose! Hop in!

Smithers: But sir, it's just a mod...

Mr. Burns: [takes out a pistol] I said, "Hop in."

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#181 Emir
July 01 2010, 12:56PM
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If we do go for frolov; can we be smart and just do a one year deal?

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#184 marty
July 01 2010, 12:59PM
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i think the forgotten guy is hagman i think he is going to have a pretty good season here. if we can sign white i think that dion trade can work out pretty good. i think staj can be a 70 point guy? if nothing else done a staj igg and tang line would be pretty decent i think

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#185 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 12:59PM
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Gange wrote:

The only thing I can think about Slats at this point is:

Mr. Burns: [holding a model airplane] We'll take the spruce moose! Hop in!

Smithers: But sir, it's just a mod...

Mr. Burns: [takes out a pistol] I said, "Hop in."

Pure Gold!

In all honesty there must be something we can offer to Pittsburgh for Jordan Staal. They always need scoring wingers...

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#186 marty
July 01 2010, 01:01PM
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@Kent Wilson

hey no worries man just like how every could have converstations and call katz's son fat too. so while im at it did every see chunky at the draft. you had a good name for him but i can't recall it right now

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#187 Emir
July 01 2010, 01:02PM
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Kotalik, Moss, & worthless prospect of choice for Staal.

Oh wait, Sather is in NYR....

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#190 Brent G.
July 01 2010, 01:03PM
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marty wrote:

i think the forgotten guy is hagman i think he is going to have a pretty good season here. if we can sign white i think that dion trade can work out pretty good. i think staj can be a 70 point guy? if nothing else done a staj igg and tang line would be pretty decent i think

I think they would be decent but by no means the best top line in the Western Conf. My hopes will be up on the team with the addition of a quality Center. Maybe I'm dreaming but maybe they could get:

Savard J. Staal J. Carter

My first choice would be Carter but I have no idea what they could give Philly for him. Their needs seem met unless they trade draft picks or prospects but I am flat out against that.

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#192 marty
July 01 2010, 01:06PM
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@Brent G.

i dream of 2 of those players as well and who knows. either would be great but savy's age and concussion problems don't sit well with me.

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#193 Emir
July 01 2010, 01:06PM
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We need defenders like we need third round picks lol.

But since we are on the topic, Kotalik & Pardy for Marc Staal. But even Mr. Sather knows the limits of the spruce moose.

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#194 Gange
July 01 2010, 01:09PM
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FYII Rob Kerr tweets: "Alex Tanguay on The FAN: Last summer, I was almost a Flame again."

So it really was a Keenan thing.

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#195 RossCreekNation
July 01 2010, 01:09PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I'd like to get Brad Richards as well, although his salary is a significant issue.

I think that could be doable, tho. Dallas could take salary back in form of 3 players... $ better spent in their situation. Stajan+

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#196 Emir
July 01 2010, 01:11PM
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Gange wrote:

FYII Rob Kerr tweets: "Alex Tanguay on The FAN: Last summer, I was almost a Flame again."

So it really was a Keenan thing.

I like that, it shows he does want to be here with the team. Plus this time no expectations, and no Jimmy Playfair to flip out after 5 games.

Note: I do respect Playfair.

and Ellis going to TB... looks like a better team come september.

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#198 marty
July 01 2010, 01:12PM
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@Kent Wilson

yup and either thro staios in there or send him down.

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#199 jbeach403
July 01 2010, 01:15PM
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Good signing by Phoenix, Whitney is solid.

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