The Pros and Cons of Trading Robyn Regehr

Kent Wilson
August 04 2010 08:29AM

CALGARY, AB - OCTOBER 1: Robyn Regehr #28 of the Calgary Flames in play against the Vancouver Canucks in the third period of NHL action on October 1, 2009 at the Pengrowth Saddledome in Calgary, Alberta. (Photo by Mike Ridewood/Getty Images)

 

I received an email by reader/commenter dustin642 yesterday. He noted that the possibility of trading Robyn Regehr was rife with complications. Thanks to his points and some further thought, I've decided to delve further into the topic.

Although he's been a cornerstone of the back-end since he broke into the league, Reggie has had some ups-and-downs in the last few seasons; particularly last year when he visibly struggled for a sizable bit of the first half. Robyn lost assignments and puck battles in an uncharacteristic fashion in 2009-10. The explanations for his struggles varied from his partnership with Phaneuf to continued knee problems extending from his injury the prior season. Whatever the cause, he wasn't fully Regehr for much of the year in the eyes of many - including myself. That said, even with Jay Bouwmeester on the team, the dude still saw the toughest match-ups of any Flames blueliner. He remains a very capable, hard minutes option. 

Of course, the real reason to contemplate dealing Regehr is the Flames current predicament: 8 one-way contracts deep on the backend and a budget $2.3M in the red. The assumption heading into camp is that Sutter will be able to demote the likes of Steve Staios and/or Ales Kotalik in order to make the club cap compliant. These are assumptions that may be based more on hope than reality however. While the team has set fire to money before in order to save Darryl from himself (Marcus Nilson and Anders Eriksson come to mind), the truth is the owners have never faced a potential money hole of this size before. Eriksson and Nilson were 2.5M combined a few seasons ago. Staios represents 2.7M in cap space and 2.2M in real cash and his demotion probably wouldn't get the job done in terms of freeing up enough cap room. If you add in Kotalik, the budgetary attrition rises to more than $5M. I don't care how rich Murray Edwards is, that's a big chunk of change to pay guys to not play on your NHL team, particularly for an organization that missed the playoffs recently (and hasn't made noise in the post-season for nearly 7 years).

So let's grant for the moment that demoting the anchors isn't a given in October. the options for getting under the cap ceiling narrow rapidly. Cory Sarich is obviously the next most expendable piece, but the truth is his salary and work over the past few seasons makes him an unattractive trade piece in the current market. My guess is if Sarich were moveable, he would have been dealt already this summer. The Flames are too thin up front to try to cut the fat there (outside of Kotalik, who is untradable). That leaves the unpleasant possibility of dealing Reggie. For cap space more than anything tangible.

Establishing whether there's even a market for Robyn Regehr is difficult on it's own. The comparable trades this summer have been few and widely varied in terms of return. Perhaps the most similar deal is Keith Ballard for Steve Bernier, Michael Grabner and Vancouver's first overall pick in the draft. Ballard is a younger, smaller and less physical defender, but he's also been a tough minutes guy since his time in Phoenix. He has more offensive upside than Reggie but a less storied resume when it comes to shutting down the big boys. Ballard's contract is also in the ballpark (4.2M) and contains a NTC making this the most natural comparison available.

As teams have spent money over the summer, the market has gradually become less favorable. James Wisniewski got the ol' sign-and-trade treatment by the Anaheim Ducks after winning a one year, $3.25M deal. The Islanders snagged him for next to nothing: a conditional 3rd round pick 2011. Andrej Meszaros, who was probably overpaid by a couple million dollars, was dealt to the Flyers for a second round pick. Neither of these players is technically in Regehr's league, but nor are they chopped liver. Both are capable NHL players, both could probably play in the top 4 for most teams in the league and neither was worth a damn on the trade market. This reiterates the fact that dumping salary this summer is hard to do. Giving up quality pieces for next to nothing has been a fact of life for many an NHL club this summer. And it may yet come to that for the Flames. 

Obviously, should moving Regehr become a necessity, a package similar to the Ballard swap would be the most attractive from a Flames perspective. A cheaper forward, a former first round pick and a future first round pick. Let's consider that the upper-end of what the club could expect to recieve. After all, Regehr owns a NTC and even though the Flames have struggled to live up to expectations the last few seasons, they aren't exactly the Florida Panthers. The options for finding a trade partner Regehr would find appealing are likely to be fewer, therefore limiting demand and a potential return.

Who would be in the market for a 30 year old, $4M defensive defensemen? The choices are slim at this point, particularly when you assume Reggie would be choosey about his relocation. The Washington Capitals are perhaps the best bet. With more than $5M in cap space, a top four featuring the likes of Mike Green, Jeff Shultz, Tom Poti (and...err...Karl Alzner?) and a reputation for being "soft" defensively, they have both the required space and apparent need for a player of Regehr's unique talents. Tom Poti and tough guy John Erskine suffered through the tough sledding for the Caps last season in terms of quality of competition and zone starts. By adding Regehr, Washington would bump their less capable guys down the tough minutes ladder. On the other hand, the Capitals are a legitimate contender for the Stanley Cup going forward, meaning Regehr is more probable to say yes to a deal.

In terms of return, I would hope the Flames would ask for Dave Steckel. A huge center who is one of the best face-off men in the league, Steckel was absolutely buried by the Capitals last season (zone start = 40%) but managed to keep his head above water at ES. He was their top forward penalty killer to boot. His cap hit is 1.1M.

A deal involving Steckel and some future asset (prospect/pick) would result in a demotion for Ryan Stone and about $1.07M in cap space for the Flames. It would further firm up their bottom 6 with a capable face-off man and penalty killer and ease their cap woes without paying guys to play in the AHL.

It would also leave the team with this arrangement of defenders:

Bouwmeester-Giordano

Sarich - White

Staios - Pardy

Pelech/Kronwall

Not a terrible depth chart, although things get scary in a hurry when one of the top 4 guys gets hurt.

So the question is...would you do the deal?

This was obviously a hypothetical scenario based on some educated guesses. Perhaps the market for Regehr is better. Or worse. Feel free to suggest your own scenarios in the comments.

Cutting useful pieces and retaining toxic assets is technically a bad way to run a team, but here we are. With the summer rapidly aging and the Flames time to get under the cap evaporating, a deal to move a useful guy like Regehr for pennies on the dollar may become a reality before the puck drops in October. If so, here's hoping Sutter can gain some sort of value out of the swap.

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#1 shep
August 04 2010, 08:53AM
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dont trade reggie, please.

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#2 Monaertchi
August 04 2010, 09:05AM
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Maybe ownership won't let Daryl bury Staios. In the minors I mean. And maybe Kotalik won't take the hint about going to the KHL or European league. And then maybe this is the only way to get the team under the cap by October, and Daryl is forced to do it. (He still put himself in this position and should still be fired)

Having said all that, trading Regher for anything less than a legitimate top 3 forward is a bad trade. It makes the team worse, not better. Trading for a top 3 guy doesn't solve the cap woes though, so I wouldn't do that either right now.

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#3 jess
August 04 2010, 09:55AM
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I'm down for it. Flames need a good faceoff man, solid bottom six depth, and a first rounder next year wouldn't hurt either.

I also see Regehr's abilities diminishing, especially since his ankle injury. He can't really seem to turn quite as well on his injured side. He can still defend against the best, but he's getting slower and making some odd decisions from time to time.

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#4 Jerry
August 04 2010, 09:56AM
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Best breakdown of a terrible situation the flames are in that I have read this entire off season. I like your thoughts on Steckel but I don't see it happening. I see Darryl making the big splash that will appease to the fans and ownership eating some cash. Personally I don't like the thought of trading Reggie. Without him in the lineup last season, and the season prior the flames were a different team. I personally believe we need him more then fans want to admit because they are crazed over a top 3 unrealistic ($$) forward. As much as flames need scoring and Reggie is the odd man out (only attractive asset in our depth position), I only see trouble in trading him.

Maybe I am wrong though, maybe it's the best time to get the best value for an aging defense man. Only time will tell as if Darryl does move Reggie, it'll all come down to the return, and judging by last trade (Phaneuf), we need a better return if we are going to trade Reggie.

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#6 JF
August 04 2010, 10:15AM
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I think ownership would allow Darryl to bury Staois... sure it's twice as much as burying ol' Bubba but I think he and King could convince them to do it. I doubt he could get both of Kotalik and Staois down there 5.7M dollars in the AHL (6.2 if Kronwall goes as well) is outragious. It's epic cap mismanagement... I tell ya, if I cost my organization that much money I'd have been fired faster then... well faster then something really effing fast.

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#8 Bob
August 04 2010, 10:38AM
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Something has to give...I'm not an advocate for the trade, but when you break it down to what the team needs, Robyn is the most logical choice to go.

We don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2011 (so far), a debate can be made that we are thin when it comes to close to ready for NHL play prospect, especially in the forward ranks and of course we need the cap room. As pointed out, ridding ourselves of Kotalik/Staios is not as easy as we would like. So who, aside from Iggy or Kipper, is our most sought after asset on the team? Reg fits the bill and I'm sure a majority of GM's would put in a call if they heard that he was available (if they haven't already).

The rumors about a possible trade have been around since before the trade deadline. While Washington works as a Hypothetical scenario, I have already gone on record that I think Anaheim, if this does happen, will be were a trade could happen. They are in need of quality D-men and have over $13 million in cap space. While none of their prospects are ready to jump into an NHL line-up and make an impact, they have some guys that could still add quality depth and yet be cap friendly in a couple of years. And they are loaded with picks...espcially in 2011. They could easily slide the Flames their 2nd round pick and then turn their plethora of 3rd rounders into a 2nd round pick from another team.

So while that's my prediction, I keep in mind I had told Pat Steinberg that Modano would sign with the Wild. Does predicting a runner up count?

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#9 Balthazar
August 04 2010, 10:38AM
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Trading Reggie is a dangerous option.

While Robyn is getting older and the Caps would do well to add him for the push they need, is the D-corp strong enough without him or a similar dominating prospect coming thru the system?

It also seems to undermine the Dion trade, IF as we suspect Daz made a decision between Reggie and Dion last year. Why dump Dion if you have to dump Robyn right after?

As for dumping other D-man salaries, for what it's worth the Herald is reporting both Sarich and Staios will be at the press conferenece today re: the Heritage Classic. Maybe they're just around this summer and available, or maybe Daz loves them and they're here all next year...

http://communities.canada.com/calgaryherald/blogs/insideflames/default.aspx

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#10 Jerry
August 04 2010, 10:48AM
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Agreed, and any flames moves right now are all speculations depending on IF's. IF Kotalik goes to KHL, IF Staios is buried in minors, IF Langkow is not healthy enough to play, IF ownership is willing to pay players to be in the minors. If Darryl goes after any kind of player with a relative cap hit and 1 of his IF's does not go his way he will be in over his head and we might be parting ways with more then intended. What if none of the IF's happen? Then we lose Reggie for nothing but cap relief, and that won't sit well.

Agreed on "epic cap mismanagement"... terrible situation our GM has put this organization into.

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#11 Nolan
August 04 2010, 10:52AM
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trade him in a heart beat. I think his value is going down, his injuries, age, etc. Plus i do believe he is a problem in the dressing room. I have heard rumours he was the one that pushed for Keenans firing (we can all debate the merits of it), he was one of the guys who pushed Phaneuf out too. I would prefer a good prospect or a top draft choice. A top forward you wont get for him.

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#12 JF
August 04 2010, 10:54AM
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@Kent Wilson

350K according to Capgeek.

It's enough to get them to opening day which is the immediate concern.

I just refuse to accept that the team should rid itself of a quality player like Robyn (for pennies on the dollar no doubt) just so that Darryl can keep his trash and feed his counter-productive goon/surplus d-man addictions. 350K should be fine so long as the team doesn't have the equivalency of 205 man-games lost to injury (none of which are of the season ending LTIR varity

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#13 Marcus
August 04 2010, 11:22AM
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You don't trade your top shutdown man to simply get under the cap. This will never never happen. Good start to the blog tho.

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#15 dave
August 04 2010, 12:08PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I think ownership might allow Sutter to do that too. Unfortunately, Staios alone buys the Flames all of 250k in cap space. I don't think a team can work with that tiny an amount over an entire season. Meaning, Staios going away probably isn't enough in and of itself to get the team the requisite clearance.

What about trading a guy like Mosser, or Glencross for a 4th or 5th round pick, and heaving Staios into the minors? The Flames would have about 1.5M in cap space, and would be able to bring a guy out of the farm team vto play with the big club(Brett Sutter) . After that, you still have about 800k in terms of cap space, as long as ryan stone plays in Abbotsford.

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#16 JF
August 04 2010, 12:09PM
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Yeah, it's with Kronwall starting and Pelech (and Backlund) on the farm and with Stone on the Club. Not my preferred way of starting but it'll do in a pinch.

In all honesty, I think the 08-09 short-bench episode has been greatly overblown. We lost those games because we were missing practically our entire 2nd forward line and 3 of our top 4 defenseman not because we couldn't get 5 minutes of ice-time out of pluggers.

Really, we shouldn't be trying to trade Regher unless we're in rebuild mode (which we aren't... yet) or we get an offer we can't refuse. I don't even think that once you remove Staois that the Blueline is definetly where $ would be still be ideally moved (at least not if Regher is the moveable part)... Really 3.0-4.5M is way too much for us to be paying whichever player ends up as the third-line center, (A fact that makes me think that Langkow may be getting the Warrener LTIR two-step t start out the year).

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#17 Balthazar
August 04 2010, 12:11PM
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Nolan wrote:

trade him in a heart beat. I think his value is going down, his injuries, age, etc. Plus i do believe he is a problem in the dressing room. I have heard rumours he was the one that pushed for Keenans firing (we can all debate the merits of it), he was one of the guys who pushed Phaneuf out too. I would prefer a good prospect or a top draft choice. A top forward you wont get for him.

other than his age and potential drop off in results, I think Robyn's (alleged) push on Keenan is a VERY bright light in regard to his recognition that the team was going the wrong way.

If this is true, I think it's another bit of evidece that Daz has picked Robyn (along with Iggy) as the guy who he is betting on, therefore even lower chance he'll move him.

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#18 Domebeers.com
August 04 2010, 12:19PM
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The thing with Reggie is that he is one of the only 'good' (under or par value) contracts we have on the club!

Trade a forward. Trade Stajan. Stajan is not great and and we can all follow Ron Sutter in his blind hope the swedish kid becomes a player.

Or we could not sign Olli again. That would free up some space.

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#19 dotfras
August 04 2010, 01:05PM
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Regehr will be around for at least 1 more year. Like Balthazar said, Daz has his marbles riding on Iggy, Kip & Reggie. They aren't going anywhere unless it's rebuild time. I don't think we'd be defensively sound without Reg. He plays top comp night in and night out. Who would fill that spot? A top pairing of Bouw-White is not gonna cut it.

I think Sarich is a goner. I would love to see Stajan out the door too.

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#21 dotfras
August 04 2010, 01:36PM
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I know that Stajan isn't going ANYWHERE. Just saying I would love to see him elsewhere, I don't like his game.

As far as Sarich is concerned, I think he would be a decent option on a lot of teams looking for an experience top four guy. At 3.6, there aren't alot of comparables left in UFA, Willy Mitchell is one guy out there, and there a bunch of teams trying to sign him. Once he signs I think there will some teams left over looking for a decent defender. Sarich has a Cup ring, good experience, and won't hurt any team that has a bunch of cap space. I think it's possible to see him playing somewhere else next year.

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#23 JF
August 04 2010, 01:53PM
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I think Stajan plays just fine, and I wouldn't call his a "problem" contract. It's about fair market value for what he would have gotten had he gone to free agency. The only problem with "it" is that we're now paying generic top six dollars to 3 centermen (Langkow, Stajan, Jokinen) which is highly illogical unless Lanks is out long-term (and I'd hate that).

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#24 dotfras
August 04 2010, 02:15PM
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I think Jokinen & Langkow contracts compared to Stajan's are better value. I think part of his signing had to do with the fact he was apart of the Phaneuf deal. Malholtra @ 2.5 rather than Stajan @ 3.5 for a 3rd line spot would have been a better move for us I think.

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#25 Nolan
August 04 2010, 02:32PM
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i agree, it would be a miracle if Reggie was moved. He is a Sutter boy. Hard working. That said, I wish i could find the quote where he said basically he would rather pass the puck than shoot, he'd rather play in a boring 1-0 game than a 6-5 thriller. He's old school (as in 90's), a player for yesterday, hence he should be moved.

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#26 walkinvisible
August 04 2010, 02:38PM
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@JF

In all honesty, I think the 08-09 short-bench episode has been greatly overblown. We lost those games because we were missing practically our entire 2nd forward line and 3 of our top 4 defenseman not because we couldn't get 5 minutes of ice-time out of pluggers.

the fact remains that at the trade deadline (after losing lombo's good value contract and picking up the remainder of jokinen's 5mil), the flames had about 300K in capspace for replacement players all the while knowing that langkow, bertuzzi, and bourque were all on the shelf. sure, we might have lost those games because the team was essentially the quad city flames, but i will never understand how the sutter administration gets a "pass" on the the situation.

if you think about it, and if you believe that michael holditch is (and was) in charge of numbers, it's no wonder we're in a world of trouble right now. if daz is turning to holditch and asking "can we afford this guy ?" and holditch is a yes man, it's no wonder we're currently being strangled by the kotalik and staios deals...

just sayin'.

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#28 walkinvisible
August 04 2010, 03:55PM
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after staios' (and sarich's!) appearance at the heritage classic presser today, we might want to start thinking outside the box with this salary cap business. i'm starting to get the inkling those two ain't goin anywhere.

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#29 JF
August 04 2010, 04:18PM
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Yuck, what is with the Jersey... is the Heritage classic being sponsered by Ronald McDonald or something? Ewwwwww.

Just wear the 80's jersey... or trot out the Atlanta Flames stuff. That is one fugly hockey sweater.

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#30 Bob Cob
August 04 2010, 04:28PM
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Ugliest Jersey ever, the Flames wear that thing to many times and someone will throw them a telethon!!!

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#31 walkinvisible
August 04 2010, 05:13PM
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JF wrote:

Yuck, what is with the Jersey... is the Heritage classic being sponsered by Ronald McDonald or something? Ewwwwww.

Just wear the 80's jersey... or trot out the Atlanta Flames stuff. That is one fugly hockey sweater.

i've been chided for linking to my site before, but in this case i think my opinion deserves photos.

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#32 RossCreekNation
August 04 2010, 05:44PM
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@walkinvisible

after staios' (and sarich's!) appearance at the heritage classic presser today, we might want to start thinking outside the box with this salary cap business. i'm starting to get the inkling those two ain't goin anywhere.

I was just thinking the same thing... MESSAGE SENT, LOUD & CLEAR:

Steve Staios is playing in Calgary.

Cory Sarich is playing in Calgary.

Regehr... pack your bags!

I still don't believe Kotalik will be here... unless Daz deals Hagman or Stajan (depending on Regehr's return).

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#33 RossCreekNation
August 04 2010, 05:52PM
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How bout the pants they'll be wearing... BEIGE!

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=535494&navid=DL|CGY|home

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#34 dustin642
August 04 2010, 06:05PM
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If we lost Reggie, our shutdown defender to a trade, and were able to get a "decent" shut down defender in return (for less $$$) as well as a pick/prospect, would it be worth it? Lets say hypothetically the trade looks like this:

To SJ: Robyn Regehr

To CGY: Douglas Murray 2011 2nd Round Draft Pick

This is just a variation of THE MOST I could see the Flames getting in return for Reggie (and the 2nd round pick is a stretch) given the terrible trade market. A deal like this would give us a pick we dont have and help fill the hole that Regehr would leave behind. Although it does not bring in a forward, it gives us the ability to waive Staios and leave the rest of the roster as is (just hopefully not for too long that is). Who knows, maybe Kotalik will remember how to score goals, and will teach Hagman, Stajan, Jokinen, and Tanguay how to score them again as well! (Hey, a guy can dream can't he?) Also, the heritage jerseys look great.... If we are celebrating Hulk Hogans Heritage. Have Darryl wearing a red/yellow boa and have the team enter the ice to Hogans old 90's theme song. Someone should get Vince McMahon on the phone, there is money to be had here...

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#35 Wanyes bastard child
August 04 2010, 07:19PM
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As an Oilers fan I would trade him in a heartbeat!

~Because maybe then Hemsky can be a point per game player~

Question... What if the flames can't get rid of salary before the start of the season for some reason, what would the league do?

I ask honestly because I have no clue.

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#36 @NateInVegas
August 04 2010, 07:54PM
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Regehr for Cogliano & 2nd

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#37 Wanyes bastard child
August 04 2010, 08:27PM
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@NateInVegas wrote:

Regehr for Cogliano & 2nd

While I don't ever see this trade happening it kinda does make sense eh.

Calgary needs to make cap room and we have the cap space to absorb Regehr. It would help your cap issues and give us a better look on our blueline while adding a speedy centre to your team.

Im thinking a combo of Cogs and Bourque (sp) would be a good duo and we could run a 2nd pairing of Regehr and Smid...

Again, this trade never happens but it isn;t that far fetched to my view.

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#38 SmellOfVictory
August 04 2010, 08:38PM
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Regehr + ? -> WSH Carlson + ? -> CGY

From what I've read, Carlson is full-time NHL ready already, and future top-pairing potential. Maybe Washington would be willing to give him up in order to give them a chance to win while they've got a couple of good players on cheap RFA deals.

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#39 SmellOfVictory
August 04 2010, 08:39PM
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Regehr + ? - WSH

Carlson + ? - CGY

Stupid f-ing formatting.

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#40 Brett
August 04 2010, 09:00PM
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Again, I think Regehr and Moss to WSH for Alzner and Chimera and a 2nd. 1st if you could, but likely not. Flames don't really have a place for Moss because of Kotalik, and Chimera is an upgrade for the bottom 6 anyways. As for Alzner, he's the closest I can see to a Regehr type down the line, as well as being a decent bottom pairing guy, with upside. As an RFA in the offseason, and with his reather unimprressive numbers to date, I think he'd come cheap in his next contract as well. The pick in the deal is deserved - Regehr is the big ticket in this deal - and the Flames would find themselves with additional cap room for another move later in the season if needed.

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#41 RossCreekNation
August 04 2010, 09:14PM
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@SmellOfVictory

I don't think Washington has any plans on moving Carlson... I don't think they have any plans to move Karl Alzner either, but I could see them moving him ahead of Carlson.

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#42 44stampede
August 04 2010, 09:17PM
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Reggie is a very good value contract. Last year he didn't look himself but hopefully he bounces back to the old. When he is on, not many can do what he does well. I dislike the idea of trading him in this market.

I would agree with those who say if he is traded it should be for a rebuild EXCEPT... what could we get back for him these days? Getting back anything less than Kent's scenario would be another bad move from Dutter. The only way it makes sense, and only from a management standpoint, is if they don't want to shred all that money sending Kotalik and Steady Steve down and they are simply needing to shed salary. As said above, he is one of the few attractive pieces we have. This is assuming he waives his NTC.

Hypothetically, if we did get a 1st rounder next year in return, what is the 2011 draft look like? This year was pretty deep, how about next? I would hope this is also a factor in deciding what to accept in this scenario.

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#43 marty
August 04 2010, 10:36PM
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what about a reg straight up for either laich or flieschmann (or how ever you spell it)?? and or maybe throw in a moss for a 4th?? i am a moss guy but with the roster looking the way it does i think with not being to old and his dollar figure moss can be moved. i hope glencross is not when he is throwing the body around and using his speed he is what we need and could use a lil more of

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#44 JF
August 04 2010, 11:10PM
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Again, I think Regehr and Moss to WSH for Alzner and Chimera and a 2nd. 1st if you could, but likely not. Flames don't really have a place for Moss because of Kotalik, and Chimera is an upgrade for the bottom 6 anyways. As for Alzner, he's the closest I can see to a Regehr type down the line, as well as being a decent bottom pairing guy, with upside. As an RFA in the offseason, and with his reather unimprressive numbers to date, I think he'd come cheap in his next contract as well. The pick in the deal is deserved - Regehr is the big ticket in this deal - and the Flames would find themselves with additional cap room for another move later in the season if needed.

I would do this trade if I were the Flames, not sure Washington would, getting a young guy with Alznar's upside and a highish pick (Chimera and Moss basically being a wash in my book) for Regher is a defensible trade on both sides if Washington is in full on "win now" mode.

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#45 SmellOfVictory
August 05 2010, 12:52AM
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From what I've heard via Washington fans, Fleischmann is not all that and a bag of potato chips. Laich seems like he'd be pretty solid, although Regehr is worth a lot more than just him.

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#46 Reidja
August 05 2010, 11:39AM
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I've got to agree with Marcus that you don't trade your shutdown D man (who happens to have a good value contract) just to get under the cap. To do so would amount to epic mismanagement. But hey, look at our last signing of consequence - a poor value contract for Stajan to save face over a universally panned trade of the only consequential draft pick of this administration so far. Either we are in GM hell or we're on our way to a second round playoff berth I don't see any middle ground.

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#47 dotfras
August 05 2010, 08:51PM
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Yeah Fleischmann doesn't really stand out, especially not when we're talking about dropping our top defensive d-man for him. Something like 75% of Fleischmann's points have one of OV, Backstrom or Semin involved, so his numbers are a bit inflated from playing with those 3.

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#48 marty
August 05 2010, 10:11PM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

From what I've heard via Washington fans, Fleischmann is not all that and a bag of potato chips. Laich seems like he'd be pretty solid, although Regehr is worth a lot more than just him.

oh i agree even if a draft pick is in the mix. cause now adays cap space sometimes is the most valuable commodity tho

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