Preseason Games Nos. 1 and 2: Splitsville

Ryan Lambert
September 21 2010 04:51PM



Today is the first day we will see NHL players doing their jobs in a competitive format since last June, and it's been considerably longer than that since we saw anyone do it in a Flames jersey. Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen, I suppose, but as far as the competition goes, well, you may want to temper your excitement.

To give you an idea of the type of rosters both Canucks squads are going to be rolling out tonight, all one needs to do is look at their top lines. In Calgary, Joel Perrault, a 27-year-old veteran of a whopping 89 NHL games, runs the pivot for the formidable duo of Jeff Tambellini and Jannik Hansen.

But Canucks kept the big guns back home. They will start with a line featuring, from left to right, the ghost of Peter Schaeffer's unimpressive career, brainless thug Rick Rypien (his dad was a boxer!) and Victor Oreskovich, whom the Florida Panthers of all teams relegated to fourth-line minutes last year.

The Flames, on the other hand, are bringing MOABs to what Canucks brass clearly intended to be a snowball fight. Among the names of those playing in Vancouver tonight are Rene Bourque, Niklas Hagman, Matt Stajan and Mark Giordano, which is sufficiently impressive. But they're icing a more-or-less NHLer-laden roster for the home crowd in what must be an effort to placate those that would show up to the Saddledome tonight with torches and effigies ready to go if there's even a hint that Olli Jokinen is still fairly bad.

Speaking of our dear Pumpkinhead, it's interesting that they're already giving the top line of Tanguay-Jokinen-Iginla a go, perhaps in hopes of creating some sort of time vortex that would pull the universe back four years when that unit would have been considered formidable, rather than the broken-down remnants of a rapidly-yellowing Darryl Sutter wishlist that is, honestly, a bit mauve-ish already.

Of note too is that despite Vancouver rolling out two rosters, they saw fit to avoid using either Sedin twin, Roberto Luongo, Dan Hamhuis, Mason Raymond, Mikael Samuelsson, Alex Edler, and so on and so forth. Although it is comical that even with a bunch of 19-year-olds in the lineup, they're not going to give Darcy Hordichuk any more than like eight minutes a night because he really is awful.

I figure most of the stuff to watch for tonight mostly has to do with the blue line. Issues worth tracking include whether Robyn Regehr seems particularly engaged, since he spent so much of last year appearing to be rather the opposite, and what in the name of Lanny McDonald Jay Bouwmeester is doing paired with Matt Pelech — or more specifically, if this means he's about to usurp Adam Pardy's regular lineup spot like everyone figures he will.

Ah well, if nothing else, it's real live NHLish hockey. You're gonna love it.

 

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#51 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 08:49PM
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Rain Dogs wrote:

I prefer Jokinen's game to Iggy's at this point. Granted, I'm switching back and forth between the two games, so I may have missed some things.

Jokinen seems engaged, at the very least.

That's never been the issue with me when watching the dude. I think he works his ass off. I think he's got some good tools. I just also think he's got the hockey sense of a well worn shoe.

As for Iggy, well...

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#52 SmellOfVictory
September 21 2010, 08:50PM
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Sheesh, Cameron even looks like he's related to Cammy.

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#53 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 08:52PM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

Sheesh, Cameron even looks like he's related to Cammy.

Yeah, I hadn't made the comparison before but thinking about his game now, I can see why people are linking the two.

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#54 RossCreekNation
September 21 2010, 08:54PM
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John Deere Green wrote:

Why am I not seeing this game on my Shaw dish? It says it is on 419 (snet pacific) but is blacked out. What the heck? I checked 418- baseball, 414 (snet 1) says Bob McGowan and it is actually this week in baseball. If I can't watch games this year Ken King will be getting an e-mail from me for sure. What is the score? I'm too lazy to turn the radio on.

Where do you live?

Where to find Sportsnet One... http://www.sportsnet.ca/one/

Did you try 413 or 414?

Who da flunk knows!!

I'm watchin on SHAW cable 320

I expect everything to be straightened out before the start of the regular season for all providers... OR ELSE!

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#55 dustin642
September 21 2010, 08:55PM
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Brent G. wrote:

Haha they just showed a highlight of the Toronto game where Foligno walked around Phaneuf and he just watched. Its funny because I have heard many claim Dion is going to be a Norris trophy candidate this year...fools. You need to understand defense and check your ego at the door for that; not score nice goals and throw big hits.

I wonder if Irving will get the start for the 3rd. Would seem weird to let Kipper play the whole 1st pre-season game. Hopefully the Canucks switch goalies too, this Lack kid is standing on his head

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#56 dustin642
September 21 2010, 08:56PM
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.......I dont know why it says I was replying to you Brent G.

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#57 dustin642
September 21 2010, 08:56PM
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dustin642 wrote:

.......I dont know why it says I was replying to you Brent G.

But I did see the highlights of that game and Phaneuf was god awful!

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#58 RossCreekNation
September 21 2010, 08:57PM
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If Langkow was healthy, I'd without a doubt try Jokinen back on the wing like his early FLA days. Even with Langkow out, I'd still move Joker to the wing.

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#59 dustin642
September 21 2010, 08:58PM
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KOTALIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess of a goal but hey its a goal!

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#60 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 08:59PM
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Kotalik with a power move to the net? Who did he beat to manage that?

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#61 Dano0049
September 21 2010, 08:59PM
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KOTALIK GOAL????? Yes that is right. My brain hurts.

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#62 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:00PM
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RossCreekNation wrote:

If Langkow was healthy, I'd without a doubt try Jokinen back on the wing like his early FLA days. Even with Langkow out, I'd still move Joker to the wing.

Me too. failing that, I'd move him away from Iginla. Forever.

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#63 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:00PM
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That was an own goal by Sean Zimmerman, but at least Kotalik did manage to drive to the net.

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#64 Brent G.
September 21 2010, 09:00PM
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Wow if Kotalik wants to keep doing that I think everyone can agree he should prolly be on the team... prolly not likely but...

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#65 dustin642
September 21 2010, 09:00PM
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JBo's on pace for 30 min in a pre season game? Does this guy ever get a break?

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#66 Greg
September 21 2010, 09:01PM
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WTH? I just tuned into the radio broadcast and heard "Kotalik races HARD to the net and SCORES".

If I had a dime for everytime I heard that last year, I couldn't buy a single 5-cent candy.

Did I tune into the wrong game? Perhaps from a parallel universe?

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#67 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:01PM
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Dano0049 wrote:

KOTALIK GOAL????? Yes that is right. My brain hurts.

Might as well re-post this. May not get many chances after the pre-season.

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#68 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:02PM
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That was a short-lived lead.

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#69 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:02PM
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That's not a good goal on Irving. Very late to the far post.

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#70 dustin642
September 21 2010, 09:03PM
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I have a feeling the flood gates will open up in the 2nd. And why are the Canucks fans cheering louder than the Flames fans @ the dome???? I already have to deal with morons cheering for the Canucks because I live in Victoria, I don't want to have to hear them during a flames home game!!

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#71 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:04PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

That's not a good goal on Irving. Very late to the far post.

What's that? Picking goalies in the first round is a mistake?

I agree.

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#72 Greg
September 21 2010, 09:04PM
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Oh wait, Jokinen and Iginla are -1, and we can't even beat the faux-Nucks. Guess this is the right game afterall :(

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#73 Brent G.
September 21 2010, 09:05PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Might as well re-post this. May not get many chances after the pre-season.

I think the most interesting thing about that video is who loves Kotalik enough to make a video montage of him at any point in his career. Even when he was with buffalo he put up 2nd line numbers at best...

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#74 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:06PM
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Brent G. wrote:

I think the most interesting thing about that video is who loves Kotalik enough to make a video montage of him at any point in his career. Even when he was with buffalo he put up 2nd line numbers at best...

I had a friend who bought a Shean Donovan jersey. Fans aren't all that rational.

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#75 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:13PM
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Matt Pelech made another nice play on the 4v4 to create a chance by jumping in from the point. He's looked pretty sound, really.

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#76 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:14PM
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John Armstrong must have walked under a bunch of ladders at some point in his life.

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#77 dustin642
September 21 2010, 09:15PM
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Bad news bears: 0/7 on the PP and only 2 goals in 5 periods of play spanned over 2 games for CGY. Top line is a -1 with some WTF are you thinking plays to their credit.

Irving would without a doubt be the first "asset" I would trade away if I were GM. First rounder in 2006(?) and looks about as steady as Michael J Fox

Oh weird, Armstrong gets hurt. That took 70% of a game to accomplish.

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#78 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:16PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

Matt Pelech made another nice play on the 4v4 to create a chance by jumping in from the point. He's looked pretty sound, really.

Good news. Hearing good things about Karlsson in VAN as well.

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#79 Brent G.
September 21 2010, 09:16PM
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@Robert Cleave

Its too bad really. I have enjoyed him tonight too. He kinda reminded me of Prust in a way. Very wreckless like a good 4th line with some speed.

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#80 dustin642
September 21 2010, 09:17PM
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Of course Iggy does that right after I make a Bad News Bears comment hahaha! Great goal by Iggy

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#81 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:17PM
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Two point night for Tanguay? HERE COMES THE REBOUND BABY.

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#82 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:19PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Good news. Hearing good things about Karlsson in VAN as well.

If you head to channelsurfing.net, you can find a feed with no sound from Rogers Arena. Just look for the 10ET link.

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#83 Brent G.
September 21 2010, 09:19PM
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I think they should let Irving play an entire game just to see. Why play Kipper? What good can come from him being in this game?

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#84 dustin642
September 21 2010, 09:20PM
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dustin642 wrote:

Of course Iggy does that right after I make a Bad News Bears comment hahaha! Great goal by Iggy

Aaaaand Irving also making an effort to prove me wrong with that huge save. Maybe I should talk smack about more guys if thats the case

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#85 Brent G.
September 21 2010, 09:21PM
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This is completely off topic but I was thinking about how Savard is suffering from post concussion syndrome. Imagine how bad it would have been if the rumours came true and we traded Regher for an injured Savard that no one knows if/when hell play again.

Sometimes things dont happen for a reason.

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#86 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:24PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

If you head to channelsurfing.net, you can find a feed with no sound from Rogers Arena. Just look for the 10ET link.

There's Canuck audio on that feed from Vancouver, actually, which may or may not be better than nothing.

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#87 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:26PM
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Folks who are watching - how close was that offside call?

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#88 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:29PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Folks who are watching - how close was that offside call?

It was BS. Iggy's skate was on the line.

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#89 Brent G.
September 21 2010, 09:29PM
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@Kent Wilson

Very very close. It was maybe half a foot offside.

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#90 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:30PM
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Hagman just scored in Vancouver on a very nice move.

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#91 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:30PM
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Bah well.

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#92 Dano0049
September 21 2010, 09:30PM
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Could have gone either way honestly. In the preseason you let the star player get the breakaway at home, but that is just my bias opinion. Iggy looked to have his toe VERY barely on the blueline though. Tough call for the ref no matter which way he called it he would have been yelled at by one of the benches.

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#93 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:30PM
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Robert Cleave wrote:

Hagman just scored in Vancouver on a very nice move.

Good to hear. That trio looked solid when I saw them too.

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#94 walkinvisible
September 21 2010, 09:31PM
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from my good friend goad (a canucks supporter but openminded to good players) has been watching gio and says "gio with two minors, a missed 4 min high stick and a turtle. not watching him anymore."

lol. poor gio.

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#95 walkinvisible
September 21 2010, 09:32PM
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hey bob --- what prompted the bad-luck armstrong comment ? something current or just his back history ?

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#96 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:33PM
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walkinvisible wrote:

hey bob --- what prompted the bad-luck armstrong comment ? something current or just his back history ?

He took a puck to the face tonight, wi. He hasn't been back.

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#97 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:34PM
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walkinvisible wrote:

hey bob --- what prompted the bad-luck armstrong comment ? something current or just his back history ?

EDIT - Bob beat me to it.

Wahl with an assist on the Hagman goal according to NHL.com.

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#98 dustin642
September 21 2010, 09:35PM
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The "adventure2.0" continues....

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#99 Kent Wilson
September 21 2010, 09:35PM
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walkinvisible wrote:

from my good friend goad (a canucks supporter but openminded to good players) has been watching gio and says "gio with two minors, a missed 4 min high stick and a turtle. not watching him anymore."

lol. poor gio.

Im choosing not to trust Goad.

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#100 Robert Cleave
September 21 2010, 09:35PM
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1-0 good guys after two in VCR. Shots 18-12 CGY.

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