Game No. 47: Whither Kipper?

Ryan Lambert
January 21 2011 06:48PM


Henrik Karlsson goes tonight, and that's got me wondering.

Miikka Kiprusoff has been several very specific kinds of horrible in his last handful of starts and, well, that's the kind of thing that happens with most goalies every once in a while.

The last several years, you watched the Flames and, even when Kiprusoff was playing so-so hockey, you shuddered to think of where these mediocre teams would have been without him.

Make no mistake, my opinion of Kiprusoff is much as it ever was: he's a goalie that when he's on top of things is probably the most impenetrable in the league. Other goalies have gaudier save percentages and GAAs (especially this year), but they didn't play behind some of the defenses Calgary has rolled in recent years and, indeed, if money weren't a consideration, most GMs would probably want him to be The Guy in a one-game playoff, were you to be assured that you were getting Vintage Kipper.

But we haven't gotten anything close to Vintage Kipper — hell, some nights this season we'd settle for Vintage Noodles — for much of the season save a couple outstanding efforts. Karlsson has played the majority of games in January, and if I'd told you THAT in October, you probably would have sobbingly called me a liar with your face buried in your hands. But it makes one wonder.

What, exactly, is the long-term goal with Miikka Kiprusoff?

Acting GM Jay Feaster has made it quite clear that he considers Kiprusoff part of The Core, and based on his history, he's probably the least-offensive older guy to be considered part of that group. But diminishing returns are, for lack of a nicer way of saying it, on the horizon if not already here.

Calgary claims it's fighting for a playoff spot at this point, and if they're putting the load on Karlsson's shoulders rather than Kipper's, then that is very puzzling indeed. I think they probably believe that Karlsson, even at his rather advanced age for a prospect, can be an NHL goaltender with a bit more seasoning. I think they're probably giving him an extended run-out to see what he's got with a more regular workload than "Whenever Miikka gets tired." And yet that puts Kiprusoff in an odd position.

Say Karlsson continues to get better and earns a greater role next season. Are you really gonna go 1A-1B with a guy making that much money, who can't be traded without his say-so? And if you are looking to shop him, this whole "Lost his starting role to a 52-year-old rookie" gimmick isn't gonna boost the ol' market value.

This is a team that's been mismanaged for years from behind the bench and in the front office — why stop now?! — but there's gotta be a better plan than this.

 

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Reply #51 negrilcowboy January 21 2011, 09:33PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Mosser putting together a pretty solid season so far. Note: he now has more goals than Jokinen.

And your point is?

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Reply #52 Kent Wilson January 21 2011, 09:34PM
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Well that was something.

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Reply #53 Kent Wilson January 21 2011, 09:34PM
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@negrilcowboy

So What? So let's dance!

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Reply #54 icedawg_42 January 21 2011, 09:34PM
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Mosser first star - well deserved.

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Reply #55 Vintage Flame January 21 2011, 09:34PM
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Good rebound game for Pardy I thought.. After the bad ones vs. Mtl and Min.

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Reply #56 Rain Dogs January 21 2011, 09:36PM
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That was ugly... but I'll take it!

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Reply #57 negrilcowboy January 21 2011, 09:37PM
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Don't think comparing Moss to Ollie is fair on Moss. Dance?

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Reply #58 Vintage Flame January 21 2011, 09:38PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Mosser putting together a pretty solid season so far. Note: he now has more goals than Jokinen.

I agree Kent. Nice to Moss getting back to the form of his 20 goal season. After last year, I was getting a little worried that he was a little too Matthew Lombardi-ish...

I'd still like to see the Flames turn him into another Joe Nieuwendyk. He doesn't have the talent of Nieuwy, but if they could teach him to stand in front of the net and tip pucks like Joe used to... Be a huge boost for the pitiful PP.

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Reply #59 Robert Cleave January 21 2011, 09:38PM
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Corsi.

CGY +4, EV shots 17-16 Stars. Looked a little shaky after the 5-4 goal, but when everything goes in I suppose it's enough. This pretty much guarantees a 38 shot, 1 goal outing tomorrow on the Coast doesn't it?

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Reply #60 icedawg_42 January 21 2011, 09:38PM
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I think the Flames benefitted from some pretty soft goaltending for a change.

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Reply #61 Robert Cleave January 21 2011, 09:39PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

So What? So let's dance!

Nice one, Rodney.

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Reply #62 negrilcowboy January 21 2011, 09:56PM
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Raycroft put on a helluva goaltending clinic tonight. 631 sv% has to been close to a record for a 60 minute performance.

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Reply #63 Palt January 21 2011, 11:30PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Those town hall meetings are like a drug addict gambler begging for an extension on his rent!

Trying to save face, not much substance.

With all the rumors [re]surfacing about Iggy going to LA.. Let me ask the forum this? Would you deal Iggy to LA for Brayden Schenn, Martin Jones and Brandon Kozun?

LA has a logjam at goaltending and getting Jones opens the door to deal Kipper for draft picks.

Just thinking outloud???

In a heartbeat. Ive been a Martin Jones fan ever since the Hitmen made their run to the WHL Finals by sweeping three teams and then losing in 6 to Kelowna. I loved watching Jonesy last year for the Hitmen, he was unbelievable. A very underrated prospect in my mind, and a guy LA signed as a free agent(he went undrafted!).

Ive been an advocate for the Iggy to LA, for Schenn and... for a while. I'd like to see Kozun come back and play at the Dome again, cuz players of his skill set are virtually nonexistent in Flames prospects.

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