Postgame: Well, One Team Showed Up

Pat Steinberg
January 03 2011 10:26PM

and one team didn't.  Riding a four game win streak and still needing points, the Calgary Flames were uninspired and sloppy, and they weren't good enough to win - so they didn't.  The New York Islanders rolled into the Saddledome on Monday night and walked away with a 5-2 win; a win that was far too easy against a supposedly desperate team.

WHAT HAPPENED

The first period for Calgary was one of their worst all season, as they had nothing from start to finish, and they found themselves down 3-1 because of it.  John Tavares opened the scoring early on  thanks to a Tim Jackman goalie interference penalty; a nice individual effort saw him roof the puck on Henrik Karlsson at 3:37 to open things up. 

His line with P.A. Parenteau and Matt Moulson went to work again at 8:29 with Moulson finishing off a nice even strength passing play to make it 2-0.  Calgary's fourth line seemed to wake the team up momentarily, with David Moss breaking in and sliding the puck under Rick DiPietro at 11:37, but it was cancelled out rather quickly.  On their second powerplay of the night, the Isles would strike again thanks to Tavares again, this time ripping a shot top corner from the left circle. 

Calgary was worked while shorthanded and was outplayed even strength, and 100% deserved to be down after 20 minutes.

The second period started much the same, and the Islanders added another even strength goal with Moulson tipping in his second of the night at 3:06.  And then the game changed, plain and simple, because the Islanders knew they had a game in hand, and they went into protect mode. 

For me, anything that happened after the fourth Islanders goal means very little, because it was a Flames team chasing in too little, too late mode.  They'd score at 13:22 of the period with Moss getting his second of the night, going hard to the night after a nice play by Jackman.  The Flames were down by two after two, and trailed after 40 for the 19th time this season.

Not a whole lot to see in the third period.  Calgary generated a ton of chances, granted...in fact Kent had Calgary with 24 scoring chances in the final two periods.  However, Calgary wouldn't score...Michael Grabner would ice it at 18:54 into an empty net. 

Nathan Lawson came into play in the second period thanks to a DiPietro injury, and he made some stops, and Calgary did generate shots and chances - but they were chasing, the Isles were in a total shell, and there weren't a ton of ten bell chances.

ONE GOOD REASON

...why the Flames lost?  Well, because they were awful for the first 24 minutes of this game, and that's all that needed to happen.  The Isles scored four goals and completely shut down their offensive game from then on out, and it worked.  It didn't work a few nights ago against Detroit, and they coughed up a lead before winning in overtime. 

The Flames don't have the team assembled to win a lot of games when trailing for the majority of the hockey game, and especially when trailing after 40.  Plain and simple.

RED WARRIOR

We'll give it to the line tonight, because they were the only three forwards worth a damn.  Tim Jackman, David Moss and Tom Kostopoulos were the best players for the Flames, and the only ones doing anything in the offensive end.  Look at Kent's scoring chances, and that tells the story. 

Moss came away with two goals while Jackman continued his strong play - how nice would it be if they were rolling and the guys ahead of them were too?

SUM IT UP

The Flames weren't good enough tonight...and it snaps a four game win streak.  But, for whatever reason, I think they bounce back and put in a good 60 against the Canucks on Wednesday.  Now, with how Vancouver is playing, it may not be good enough, but I'm willing to chalk this one up to "bad game".  However, that means they have to go play well in Vancouver, and they also really can't afford "bad game" at this stage of the game.

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#1 negrilcowboy
January 03 2011, 10:45PM
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40 down, 42 to go. The Flames need to at a 2 to 1 rate here on out. Tough to do with all your secondary scoring coming from the so called fourth line.

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#2 Tach
January 03 2011, 10:54PM
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I have goat horns on Bouwmeester in this one. Clearly too high on the Tavares goal and then chased Tavares behind the net on the Moulson tap in. I guess everyone has a bad game, but the Flames just can't afford one from Bouwmeester for the rest of the year.

Detroit should be ... interesting.

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#3 BCFLAME
January 03 2011, 11:31PM
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Hmmm....why won't this site post my other comment?

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#4 BCFLAME
January 03 2011, 11:31PM
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g back to earth. No, Steingberg, this was not a bad game. This is who the Flames are. Whenever they put together a couple of good efforts (Saturday in Edmonton was not one of them) we follow them up with a series of stinkers. I think that's what the definition of inconsistency is. With Vancouver and Detroit up next, it's not hard to prognosticate we will be mired in another slump soon.

To say the least, we'll probably be a .500 team from here on out.

That's why I urge a trade of the core players, not the supporting cast (because nobody will take them!!!).

I remember in the last few posts, written on the heels of victories, many argued for keeping our aging core of Iggy, Kipper, and Reggie, but finding supporting players for this group. Ummmm....isn't that how Sutter killed our prospects of success over the years in the first place (prospects for grinders and reclamation projects, anyone)?

We simply are not good enough!!!!! We have no identity. We are not a fast, skilled team full of youth or enthusiasm (which leads to hard-work on a consistent basis). We are not a skilled team exuding experience either, despite the players' aggregate ages. The Flames are a mediocre team that can string together a .500 season on a consistent basis, through pious worship of an anachronistic defense-first system.

Like it or not, we need change. Butter's gotta go, because he is, at best, an average coach at this level.

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#5 negrilcowboy
January 03 2011, 11:40PM
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hummm Mike Peca might have been on to something,JayBo sure looks pretty but plays with emery cloth grit.

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#6 FireOnIce
January 04 2011, 12:35AM
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This team needs to get their crap together and choose one of the following:

1) Scrape the bottom of the barrel, riding garbage goals to a 9th or 10th place seed, and get a crap draft pick that will probably be used on a defensive defenseman from Western Alberta

or

2) Tank the season, get a real GM with experience beyond being a slick lawyer, and draft someone like Landeskog or Couturier to begin the long rebuild

This whole, win 1, lose 3, or even the recent win 4, lose 6 (likely) bullcrap is getting older than the Flames.

Someone in the game thread said something about Bourque probably getting high before the game, I concur.

However, it's not the good high a la Theo "strippers, booze, and a pile of cocaine for breakfast, lunch, and dinner" Fleury, it's the bad high a la Rene "huffed a can of paint thinner and can barely stand, let alone skate" Bourque.

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#7 Oilertown
January 04 2011, 01:29AM
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Bwahahahahahahahah lamers your pathetic excuse of a team can't even beat the second last place team in the league. And your GM for the future has already said the core is not going anywhere so the future don't look much brighter. And to think that team was playing its backup goalie and has traded away its best Dman. Sad very sad NOT haha. Tavares is a very good player but I wouldn't trade Hall for him. I look forward to kicking your guys azz for the next oh 10 to 15 years with Hall Eberle PRV Omark Couturier or Larrson and all our other prospects in our pipeline like Hamilton who you may have seen tonight. And many others that our real head scout drafts. Unlike your loser scouts.

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#8 Oilertown
January 04 2011, 01:39AM
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And before that homer Kent Wilson pipes up that not all will pan out. Granted not all will but the ones on the team already have and a great deal of the boys in the system will as well with the magnificent Stu at the helm the guy is an absolute genius. On the other hand not a whole lot to brag about 2 hours to the south of us hahahaha

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#9 Oilertown
January 04 2011, 01:43AM
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Sorry to rub salt in the wound but one more thing. Two words for you guys OLD AND SLOW.

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#10 robinrussia
January 04 2011, 01:55AM
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@Oilertown

Oilerguy! Sod off! You give the rest of us Oil fans a bad rep.

Calgary will blow itself up before the deadline. Guaranteed! Flames fans just need some time to acclimatize to the post Sutter era and accept the changes that are coming. Regardless, no one is really shopping for the missing pieces at the moment. 20 more games and moves will be made.

If there is a push for a playoff spot, it's going to be ownership driving that bus. They would like the revenue from 2-3 home games in the first round and perhaps push a little deeper. The rebuild will be underway by the draft though!

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#11 robinrussia
January 04 2011, 01:59AM
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Oilertown wrote:

Sorry to rub salt in the wound but one more thing. Two words for you guys OLD AND SLOW.

Oilerguy....Count with me! 1 2 3 Old and Slow

Once more, for you oilerguy

1. Old 2. and 3. Slow

How many words is that? Three.

Grade 6 Math should cover the concept of counting to 3. You'll learn it next year I'm sure.

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#12 rude
January 04 2011, 06:52AM
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@oilersguy

Kent Wilson is a damn fine Hockey Journalist. I bet he can count to three as well. Nay, he CAN count to three

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#13 T&A4Flames
January 04 2011, 07:01AM
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Oilertown wrote:

Bwahahahahahahahah lamers your pathetic excuse of a team can't even beat the second last place team in the league. And your GM for the future has already said the core is not going anywhere so the future don't look much brighter. And to think that team was playing its backup goalie and has traded away its best Dman. Sad very sad NOT haha. Tavares is a very good player but I wouldn't trade Hall for him. I look forward to kicking your guys azz for the next oh 10 to 15 years with Hall Eberle PRV Omark Couturier or Larrson and all our other prospects in our pipeline like Hamilton who you may have seen tonight. And many others that our real head scout drafts. Unlike your loser scouts.

And who exactly has your team beat???? And I suppose your guys kicking our ass for the next 10 to 15 would even out the last 10 to 15 we've been kicking your asses around. Why are you on this site again? Closet Flames fan? Well.... closet something I'm sure.

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#14 Monaertchi Gaudnett
January 04 2011, 08:24AM
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In order to make the playoffs, the Flames have to start winning at the same rate as Vancouver, Detroit, Philly, and Pittsburgh. It seems blatantly obvious to me that they cannot do that.

Yes, they are old and slow. They also seem unmotivated, unskilled, and poorly coached.

On a different point, and please correct me if I'm wrong but, even if we tank the season on "purpose" we still won't have a high draft pick because Darryl traded our first and second round picks away.

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#15 icedawg_42
January 04 2011, 08:24AM
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@ BCFLAME - fully agree...it's been apparent since before the season began, this is a .500 team. Credit to them for pulling themselves back up to this point from where they were, but we shouldn't expect anything more. They'll hover around this mark probably from here on out. Not sure I see a "blow up" coming, but in all honesty that's more along the lines of what needs to happen. COILERguy is just a troll.... @ robinrussia - I don't think we're at the point of "accepting" change - I think we're now "hoping" for it!

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#16 Domebeers.com
January 04 2011, 08:38AM
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How you make it through these OT shows Patty...

To the Islanders! At home! What a joke.

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#17 Gange
January 04 2011, 08:51AM
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BCFLAME wrote:

g back to earth. No, Steingberg, this was not a bad game. This is who the Flames are. Whenever they put together a couple of good efforts (Saturday in Edmonton was not one of them) we follow them up with a series of stinkers. I think that's what the definition of inconsistency is. With Vancouver and Detroit up next, it's not hard to prognosticate we will be mired in another slump soon.

To say the least, we'll probably be a .500 team from here on out.

That's why I urge a trade of the core players, not the supporting cast (because nobody will take them!!!).

I remember in the last few posts, written on the heels of victories, many argued for keeping our aging core of Iggy, Kipper, and Reggie, but finding supporting players for this group. Ummmm....isn't that how Sutter killed our prospects of success over the years in the first place (prospects for grinders and reclamation projects, anyone)?

We simply are not good enough!!!!! We have no identity. We are not a fast, skilled team full of youth or enthusiasm (which leads to hard-work on a consistent basis). We are not a skilled team exuding experience either, despite the players' aggregate ages. The Flames are a mediocre team that can string together a .500 season on a consistent basis, through pious worship of an anachronistic defense-first system.

Like it or not, we need change. Butter's gotta go, because he is, at best, an average coach at this level.

LMAO.

How does this make sense? Trade our best players and keep our worst players? How long do you want to be bad for? Just run out the contracts of bad players and sign some free-agents then hope for some draft success. Guys like Iginla are going to be key for a rebuild because they have to mentor the incoming younger players.

They had the same discussion with Yzerman when he was still playing in detroit. How did that work out for them?

Scorched earth is not a plan. It's a reaction.

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#18 mikeecho
January 04 2011, 09:14AM
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@Oilertown

2 words for you...

1) Rob; 2) Schremp

Don't count your chickens...

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#19 negrilcowboy
January 04 2011, 09:19AM
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@Gange

Comparing the Flames to the Wings is like comparing apples to eggs.

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#20 Gange
January 04 2011, 10:06AM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

Comparing the Flames to the Wings is like comparing apples to eggs.

Not at all. The wings were mired in the early to mid 80's. There was talk of trading Yzerman to rebuild the team. However with player development, some smart draft picks, and some solid trades they remain an elite team.

We're close to that "mired" point.

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#21 Quintana
January 04 2011, 11:10AM
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@Oilertown

Kent Wilson a homer? You should read Pat S. now thats a real Homer!!!!!!

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#22 dotfras
January 04 2011, 01:55PM
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@Oilertown

10-15 years? Hall Eberle & MPS will be gone on to better teams as soon as their ELC's are burned up.

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#23 Dave
January 04 2011, 02:01PM
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@Gange

I agree. I don't think the best idea is to trade Iggy. I don't mind if we trade Regher because we have Good Dmen that can fill the void. A team filled with high draft picks and no leaders/mentors looks a lot like the Islanders. Sure they beat us the other night but they've been in the bottom of the league for as long as I can remember. Mentorship is cruicial to on ice success. It would be a mistake to trade Iggy.

With good scouts we can get excellent players all throughout the draft. You don't have to pick 1st or 2nd to get a good NHLer (Though I admit it is more likely they will be). Scouting is the real problem. Once we fix that our draft position won't matter as much.

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#24 dotfras
January 04 2011, 02:09PM
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Yeah I think priority 1 is upgrade our scouting.

Then after that's settle we go after as many picks & prospects we can for the combined likes of Regher, GlenX, Hagman, Morrison, Pardy, anyone else we can trade.

After watching the WJC I'm enthusiastic about Erixon, Ramage, & Ortio. All played well in the tournament.

Within the next 2 years Brodie, Erixon, & Ramage could bring a revitalization to our back end.

Other than Backlund, we don't have any forwards that look promising short term. I think this is the area we need to address.

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#25 dotfras
January 04 2011, 02:38PM
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Looks like Backlund is back with the Big Guys. Guys like Kotalik, Glenx, Morrison, even Stajan have looked abysmal, no reason he shouldn't be playing in place of any of them.

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#26 Gange
January 04 2011, 02:41PM
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dotfras wrote:

Yeah I think priority 1 is upgrade our scouting.

Then after that's settle we go after as many picks & prospects we can for the combined likes of Regher, GlenX, Hagman, Morrison, Pardy, anyone else we can trade.

After watching the WJC I'm enthusiastic about Erixon, Ramage, & Ortio. All played well in the tournament.

Within the next 2 years Brodie, Erixon, & Ramage could bring a revitalization to our back end.

Other than Backlund, we don't have any forwards that look promising short term. I think this is the area we need to address.

Agreed though I would add player development to that. I'm not sure if scouting is specifically an issue though. I say that because I don't know if all those picks were "Sutter" picks or Scout recommendations. I guess we'll find out soon.

Erixon and Ortio looked good although I was somewhat concerned about Ramage in the game against Canada. He looked confused at times.

As for trade bait: Glencross Bourque Hagman Pardy Morrison Tanguay Sarich Stajan Kotalik

All of them can go for picks/prospects/other players as far as I'm concerned.

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#27 funkyjaman
January 04 2011, 04:02PM
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@ Oilerguy

2 words for ya, "get a @#$%ing life"!!

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#28 negrilcowboy
January 05 2011, 01:31AM
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@Gange

I lived in Detroit in the lean years before the best owner in the nhl mike illitch bought the team.The Norris family and company had ran then into the ground,those were the days before the Joe when going to a game at the Olympia was like going to Beirut. The wings were almost the Nhl's Siberia. And for the record Jimmy D only entertained offers to trade Stevie Y,one of the offers was Sakic. This is were Yzerman learned that the best trades are often the ones you don't make. The wings blueprint to winning began with illitch hiring Devellano.

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