GDB 30.0: EDMONTON... THIS IS YOUR LIFE

Vintage Flame
December 10 2011 03:50PM

 

There is no doubt that when these two teams face each other, the stats and standings go out the window and for sixty minutes, only one thought comes to mind; Embrace the Hate! It’s us against them, family member against family member, and the only thing we can probably agree on with the toothless folk up in Shelbyville is that we wouldn’t have it any other way.

It is a rivalry that has been one of the best in the NHL, it has also been amongst the worst. In the 1980’s both teams were at the top of their game and each meeting was an epoch battle to see who would ultimately win the war. As the 90’s came and went, the Battle became less about war and more about survival. The Battle of Alberta had been reduced to the Battle of Albrutal.

Some would even argue that both teams had developed new rivalries apart from each other. Edmonton had some incredible games and series’ against the Dallas Stars, while Calgary spent seven years absent from the second season, they had developed more of a hate on for Vancouver. Though, even when things were down for both clubs, the fans kept the rivalry alive and well.

The Flames and the Oilers face each other for the 207th time tonight, Calgary holding the advantage with a record of 102-82-19-3. Even over the last few seasons, with Calgary being on the steady decline, it has always been a match-up we down south have looked forward to. There is just something special about lining up at center and knowing no matter what is wrong with the power play, the penalty killing, or who isn’t scoring, that facing the Oilers was going to be the Flames slump-buster; and it has been that way for the better part of the decade.

 

 EDMONTON NOTES

As the holiday season approaches, Christmas might have come just a little too early for the Edmonton Oilers. Starting off the season with youthful excitement, ready to show off their shiny new toy to the rest of the league, Edmonton sped through their first 10 games with a record of 6-2-2. They were playing at home a lot and the fans all admired the shiny new toy. The story away from Rexall was different, losing all 3, one of which was to the Flames.

The Oilers, for the most part, were playing it smart. Only certain people got to play with the shiny new toy. In the confines of home, ‘Nuge’ was part of an exciting unit that featured Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle. It was a blast from the past as the Oil’s new “Kid Line” was like a direct shot of adrenaline to the heart; add to that, the youthful rejuvenation of Smythe and Khabibulin’s outlandish save percentage; the Oil were cruising.

However, as expected, Edmonton is starting to come back to earth. What was once a 7-point lead on the Flames has been whittled down to 3-points - and Calgary with a game in hand.

As is customary in Stinktown, injuries have also crept their way into the party. One begins to wonder why scores of Edmonton players are stricken with ailments and maladies every year. Perhaps those who can't demand trades out of town simply hurt themselves as a way to avoid going to work? Kind of like soldiers who shoot themselves in the foot so they can leave the front lines. Speaking of wounded legs, Ryan Whitney is playing like a guy who was seized in the middle of his convalescence and shoved back into the active roster against his will.

Taylor Hall continues to miss time in the line-up and as such will miss playing Calgary for the third time this season. The Oil went 0 for 6 on the PP in the last game against the Flames, I have no doubt that missing Hall had something to do with that woeful stat.

Khabibulin still boasts a whopping .933 Sv% and 1.95 GAA, placing him 4th in the NHL in both categories. How much longer he can keep up these rates in beyond me, but if the play of the guys in front of him continues to regress, then Nik is bound to be dragged down with them. Of course, he may at some point decide to hit the bottle again, at which point the Oilers fortunes will depend on Devan "I can't believe I was a first round pick either" Dubnyk.

CALGARY NOTES

The Flames continue to be a team in limbo this season, and it 's having a serious impact on its fan-base. Half of them want management to blow it up, and half of them want them to get their act together and play like the team they could be/should. The obstacle, as always, has been themselves and it's fair to say the only thing they seem to be consistent at is being utterly inconsistent.

Too often the Flames have followed a positive effort with an abysmal one. That being said, Calgary has shown a positive start to the month of December, a month that will be critical if the Flames are to make up any ground in the standings. With 16 games and 4 sets of back-to-backs, this month will most likely dictate the fate of the rest of the season.

For a team that had absolutely no wiggle room at the start of the season, the Flames roster has gone through significant change. As much as Feaster said there was not going to be a wholesale change to this club, change has arrived, whether they like it or not. Calgary now has three rookies on the blueline, most notably T.J. Brodie, who has looked very good in his brief time here. Brodie bolsters speed and pretty good puck-handling. The other notable addition on the blue line was the calling up of Joe Piskula, who if you don’t know the name, all you have to really know is that he is the guy that has pretty much spelled it out clearly to Cory Sarich, that he just doesn’t fit in the Flames plans.

The return of Brendan Morrison and anticipated return of David Moss meant that it was time for Horak to be re-assigned to Abbotsford. Morrison has 6 pts in his 2 games back, so it looks like the Flames are going to ride this out and see where it takes them. Calgary has also recalled Greg Nemisz today in case the flu-stricken Alex Tanguay is unable to play.

With the OIl stumbling and on the second night of a back-to-back, I can’t think of a better team than the old “slump-busters” for the Flames to finally go above .500 for the first timethis season.

Enjoy part 3 of the Battle of Alberta!

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Vintage Flame is a Calgary based sports junkie that prefers to call hockey a "religion" rather than an addiction. He believes there are two types of hockey fans. Those who cheer for the Flames, and those who don't understand the sport yet. Follow Vintage_Flame on Twitter
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Reply #1 Robin Brownlee December 10 2011, 05:23PM
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Aside from being a ham-handed and awkwardly written sort of paint-by-numbers attempt at stirring the pot, this item is virtually devoid of useful information.

Had this been an epic example of talking sh*t or a brilliant bit of cutting narrative, I could overlook the absence of any tangible effort to provide even basic information -- say, fundamentals like line combinations and defensive pairings -- while the author instead concentrated on exposing the flaming C tattoo on his bum. Alas, it is not and I cannot.

Sadly, the Flames could emerge from the tunnel this evening with their skates on the wrong feet and perform better than the author of this item. That's a Flame, I mean a shame. Legions of Calgary fans are hanging on your every word, VF. Be better.

And what of this "epoch" battle? Do tell.

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Reply #2 Skin December 10 2011, 04:05PM
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WTF is this shat. Here's my obvious game day prediction: If have to read this drivel on ON ever again, I'm not coming back to this site. Put that trash on flames nation. Where's Gregor's GDB?

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Reply #3 Owen December 10 2011, 04:12PM
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If I see this crap on ON im done from here. Put this garbage on the Flames site.

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Reply #4 terry December 10 2011, 04:22PM
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This is a poor article and isn't even reporting. Articles like this ruin the reputation and credibility of a site. I won't be visiting Oilers Nation anymore.

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Reply #5 Chris Team Fire Chairman Lowe! December 10 2011, 03:53PM
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Game Day Prediction: The Flames have owned the Oilers since 2006. Here's the thing: slumping teams often lose a game or two they deserve to win before they return to the win column. Similarly, winning streaks often last a game or two longer than they should. As of this morning, Olli Jokinen leads the Flames in scoring with 20 points: tied for 66th in the league. The Oilers have four players with as many, or signifigantly more points than poor old Olli. In fact, the Oilers have 2 players in the top ten. With this incredible level of emerging offence, how long can the unholy streak of Calgary dominance be expected to continue? Very soon the Oilers will surpass their provincial rivals and not look back for at least ten years. I think it starts tonight with a close, hard fought, 4-2 Oiler win.

Obvious Game Day Prediction: The Oiler powerplay will be much better than last Saturday.

Not-So-Obvious Game Day Prediction: Feaster guaranteed a Calgary playoff appearance. In order for Jay to SIUTBOHC, the Flames need to collect about 70 points in the next 54 games. Around 11:00 pm tonight, Jay will be recalculating on a bar napkin the winning pecentage required to collect the necessary 70 points in just 53 games. In the background, on the radio, a delusional Falmes fan will be pitching a Rene Bourque to Pittburgh for Malkin type deal....

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Reply #6 friday the FISTeenth December 10 2011, 04:02PM
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Typical flames fan. Writes about the young kids as if the home ice and soft minutes were the only thing bringing success in the first 10 games, then conveniently forgets to say anything about the scorching 63 points between RNH and Eberle this season. RNH? Tied for league lead in PP points. Eberle? Leads the NHL in EV/PP60. Together they have 1 less point than the Sedin twins. It's not October anymore. They are for real.

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Reply #7 Romulus' Apotheosis December 10 2011, 04:15PM
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Uh... hope you enjoyed your gloating there VF... but would it hurt to do some actual reporting and put up the night's rosters?

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Reply #8 Romulus' Apotheosis December 10 2011, 04:24PM
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Guys calm down... or rather... keep getting pissed. that's the point!

see #10!

I'm happy to have the flames get the nod after we Sh!t the bed. It reminds us with some extra dirt in the eye to motivate us... also we get to stick it in their eye later... turn about is fairplay.

my problem is Kent did a better job of mixing his Flame Jabs with some helpful information last week... step it up VF!

edit: actually it looks like Kent didn't post the rosters either:

http://oilersnation.com/2011/12/3/gdb-270-battle-of-alberta-means-something-again

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Reply #9 Robin Brownlee December 10 2011, 09:03PM
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@Vintage Flame

"I'll be curious as to why a hack like you didn't get to write it . . ."

You're mixing up your tenses. As was the case with "epoch," if you're going to talk trash, you can't come off as a rank amateur doing it or somebody is bound to verbally fire up the lawnmower on you.

Like I said, VF, be better. Be better. Embrace spelling and grammar.

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Reply #10 Skidplate December 10 2011, 04:02PM
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His name is Smyth. Try to get that right would you.

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Reply #11 Junker4ce December 10 2011, 04:07PM
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I don't know why I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but we have a real oppertunity to get a guy from off the ballot, into the allstar game.

Can everybody get out the and vote NUGE? Even Flames fans? I mean he's better then anyone you could send...

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Reply #12 Hunter December 10 2011, 04:08PM
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Suck it Vintage Flame!!

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Reply #13 terry December 10 2011, 06:03PM
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funkyjaman wrote:

Wow! Some super classy folks on ON. Nothing like insulting someones weight to make yourself feel better. Did you run around bullying a few kids today as well? Push over an old lady? Kick a dog?

You stay classy Oil Nation...jeeeezzzz!

GGF'd

Not making fun of his weight just pointing out that he looks like a pig. It's fact.

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Reply #14 Mr. Pederson December 10 2011, 06:36PM
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A: A Bra has two Cups.

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Reply #15 friday the FISTeenth December 10 2011, 04:05PM
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Also, the frequency that I hear flames fans mention "standings not mattering" and the like when it comes to the BoA rivalry is increasing exponentially. Deep down they all know these teams are heading opposite directions.

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Reply #16 MAC962 December 10 2011, 04:17PM
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Stinktown ? soak my cork. The tables will turn, another year of mediocrity for the flames going no where.

We have done it right, it may not be tonight, this year or even next. But i assure you Flamers. we are coming and when we do we will step on your heads on the rise to the top.

Your season's as always.. just beat the Oilers.. I guess if that is your Cup.. You guys rock...

Hey what was that ? or just another grey hair from Iggy hitting the floor. tick tick tick.. Bye Iggy, Bye Kipper.. Ohhhhh Matt Stajan is he your new leader ? lol yes, i laugh at you Flamers....

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Reply #17 Walter "Wes" Sobchak December 10 2011, 04:42PM
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A win and Hordy pounding the shat out of Glen X that would be such a sweet early Christmas present! Game on Be-hatch's

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Reply #18 Bardownsnipe December 10 2011, 04:47PM
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That was a lot of cheap shots crammed in there from a guy whose team has nothing going for it and are about to sink to the bottom of the ocean with nary a whimper. After the Oil dominate tonight I can't wait for Wanye to overwhelm cownation with SQUEEE's and pictures of the NUGE before the next BoA.

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Reply #19 Quicksilver ballet December 10 2011, 04:54PM
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Oilers should start off by slamming Glencross' head into the glass and nueter him for the evening. It's a fine time for 55 or 16 to take a 3 gm vacation. The Lames will be pacifists the rest of the evening.

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Reply #20 Justin R December 10 2011, 04:56PM
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I wonder what Jay Feaster is eating right now...

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Reply #21 Bucknuck December 10 2011, 04:58PM
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I had a hard time reading that. How many cheap shots should we have to read on an OILERS SITE. I am disgusted.

Wanye, it is time for a rebuttal.

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Reply #22 nofool6110 December 10 2011, 06:19PM
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Oilers fans just proved the point of the article with their derisive and boneheaded comments about the appearance of Feaster.

I, for one, would criticize the (lack of) moves he's made. Or the fact his organization's potential and reality both look worse than this one's. Insult his decisions, not his looks.

I'm all for stirring up the pot and I hate on the Flames just as much as the next guy. But please choose to do so in a way that doesn't make everyone else kind of ashamed.

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Reply #23 David S December 10 2011, 07:51PM
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Not sure why you guys are getting so worked up. I saw "Vintage Flame" instead of "Jason Gregor" and skipped right down to the comments.

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Reply #24 jeanshorts December 10 2011, 07:55PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

Well said Brownlee!

Over at flames nation VF is only above Rosscreek for writers, even then not by much, thats gotta say something eh ;)

To be fair to RC he spends so much time trying to predict every single thing that will happen in the NHL so he can brag about being right on Twitter that he can't concentrate on anything else.

*Runs and hides in a pile of laundry*

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Reply #25 Chris Team Fire Chairman Lowe! December 10 2011, 10:39PM
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I'm F@cking sick of this script. Boooooooooooo!

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Reply #26 5Cups December 10 2011, 04:02PM
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These games are to hard on my heart these days. The Oilers have played terrible against the Famers and it IS for a lack of trying.

The boys don't have the hate in their blood yet and seem to not care. In fact they don't care when they lose to the Flamers which kills me.

Why don't they care? Well if they cared they would not have been out till 3am before the last flame game.

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Reply #27 Charley December 10 2011, 04:04PM
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Yeah! Go Flamers! Annihilate those Oil.

uh...wtf?

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Reply #28 Junker4ce December 10 2011, 04:10PM
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Skin wrote:

WTF is this shat. Here's my obvious game day prediction: If have to read this drivel on ON ever again, I'm not coming back to this site. Put that trash on flames nation. Where's Gregor's GDB?

Lol calm down. :P Wanye in his infinite wisdom decided that for the rest of the year when the oil play the flames, the winner of the last tilt would get to write the other's GDB.

If we mange to win tonight, you won't have to worry about it.

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Reply #29 Walter "Wes" Sobchak December 10 2011, 04:18PM
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Junk! One sided article! The Oil have come crashing down! The Flame’s are playing above there heads! If any teams should face a brutal reality it’s the Flames! Enjoy the last few wins over the Oilers for the next ten years plug!

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Reply #30 a lg dubl dubl December 10 2011, 04:23PM
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Vintage flame, that's either kippersoft or Jerome "ill do it myself" Iginla writing tonights GDB.

Oil win 3-1

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Reply #31 HORDY hears a who December 10 2011, 04:24PM
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word on the street was the demolition man Darcy Hordichuk and Egghead Eager are playing on the same line..... some flamers head is going to come off

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Reply #32 Todd December 10 2011, 04:32PM
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For god sakes, you guys actually let a flamer write your article today? What the....

The flames have had as much hockey success as Edmonton over the past few seasons. Financially, the Oilers organization has made more money than the Flames over the past 5 years (Please go to www.forbes.com and look for yourself).

Heck, the flames even have WORSE contracts than the oilers do. I mean... lets look at it from this perspective.

Iginla - 18 pts and 7.5M cap hit Horcoff - 20 pts and 5.5M cap hit

I'm not an oiler fan, but i hate the flames. I hope claps your little flamers around tonight.

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Reply #33 jr_christ December 10 2011, 04:33PM
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Hey, does anyone else think Feaster looks like Porky Piglet?

Haha oh man... i'd hate to be the owner covering his meal allowance.

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Reply #34 MAC962 December 10 2011, 04:37PM
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I love HNIC Games , but damn an Early game would be nice for a change. Nuge loves HNIC. Remember that.

i Hope Hordy and Eager are on the same line...

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Reply #35 a lg dubl dubl December 10 2011, 04:39PM
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jr_christ wrote:

Hey, does anyone else think Feaster looks like Porky Piglet?

Haha oh man... i'd hate to be the owner covering his meal allowance.

Or elmer fudd LOL

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Reply #36 iceman December 10 2011, 04:39PM
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Yeah, I've been a Flames fan my whole life. Now that I'm going to the U of A for my law degree I am getting a bit worried about how much better edmonton has changed in one season.

I mean we all ragged on this team for finishing last - but we can see that last year's finish was obviously worth the while.

Maybe it's time to sell the farm here in Calgary and try and get some potential on the team. I get worried when I see people talking up with Bartchi kid. He's another Robbie Schremp in the making. He has no physical game and he's ONLY effective on a first line. If he's going to be playing in the AHL or Flames he won't fit a third line role.

Anyway, as much as this REALLY sucks to admitt... I don't think there is going to be much luck for the Flames anymore.

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Reply #37 Greg MC December 10 2011, 04:44PM
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We are Capital City, see it says so in the picture.

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Reply #38 MAC962 December 10 2011, 05:00PM
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Justin R wrote:

I wonder what Jay Feaster is eating right now...

That would take up more space than this will allow. What DOESNT he eat should be the questions.

He has more chins than a chinese phonebook.

No offense my Chinese friends.

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Reply #39 Nuberle December 10 2011, 05:02PM
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so it was VF feaster was talking about. looks like your goanna have to leave your moms basement to try and drum up other flamers to read this drivel.

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Reply #40 Chris Team Fire Chairman Lowe! December 10 2011, 05:05PM
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terry wrote:

This is a poor article and isn't even reporting. Articles like this ruin the reputation and credibility of a site. I won't be visiting Oilers Nation anymore.

You read that article? Why?

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Reply #41 Wanyes bastard child December 10 2011, 05:05PM
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Hey VF, you may want to mention the fact at the start of the article about Wanyes bet with Kent about the game day articles eh... some people seem to be missing that fact ;)

Also anybody with a link for the game tonight... at the mother in laws and may not be able to catch it on TV :(

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Reply #42 Quicksilver ballet December 10 2011, 05:06PM
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Can anyone remember how many Stanley Cups the Flames won during that 16 out of 18 run, did they even make the playoffs during this stretch?

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Reply #43 Romulus' Apotheosis December 10 2011, 05:11PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

Hey VF, you may want to mention the fact at the start of the article about Wanyes bet with Kent about the game day articles eh... some people seem to be missing that fact ;)

Also anybody with a link for the game tonight... at the mother in laws and may not be able to catch it on TV :(

cbc.ca streams all the games

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockeynightincanada/video/live/#id=2131025544

just pick the feed. you can watch one on tv and one on your computer (i've done it more than once for the early games!)

ps. looks like Weekes is in Winnepeg tonight! Now if only they would put mark lee there too!

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Reply #44 Wanyes bastard child December 10 2011, 05:11PM
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Romulus' Apotheosis wrote:

cbc.ca streams all the games

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockeynightincanada/video/live/#id=2131025544

just pick the feed. you can watch one on tv and one on your computer (i've done it more than once for the early games!)

ps. looks like Weekes is in Winnepeg tonight! Now if only they would put mark lee there too!

Thanks dude.

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Reply #45 Terry December 10 2011, 05:13PM
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Chris Team Fire Chairman Lowe! wrote:

You read that article? Why?

I stopped about three quarters of the way through once I realized it was one sided and wasn't actual reporting.

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Reply #46 Tim December 10 2011, 05:15PM
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Jay Feaster strikes me as the kind of individual that eats alot of pig...

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Reply #47 Walter "Wes" Sobchak December 10 2011, 05:15PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Oilers should start off by slamming Glencross' head into the glass and nueter him for the evening. It's a fine time for 55 or 16 to take a 3 gm vacation. The Lames will be pacifists the rest of the evening.

I'm with you on that one for sure!

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Reply #48 roughneck (team apathy) December 10 2011, 05:20PM
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@jr_christ

I was going with two blind squirrels seeking a acorn but albrutal works.

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Reply #49 funkyjaman December 10 2011, 05:21PM
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Wow! Some super classy folks on ON. Nothing like insulting someones weight to make yourself feel better. Did you run around bullying a few kids today as well? Push over an old lady? Kick a dog?

You stay classy Oil Nation...jeeeezzzz!

GGF'd

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Reply #50 Ryan14 December 10 2011, 05:22PM
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A flames fan commenting on another teams draft history? Classic.

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