GDB 30.0: EDMONTON... THIS IS YOUR LIFE

Vintage Flame
December 10 2011 03:50PM

 

There is no doubt that when these two teams face each other, the stats and standings go out the window and for sixty minutes, only one thought comes to mind; Embrace the Hate! It’s us against them, family member against family member, and the only thing we can probably agree on with the toothless folk up in Shelbyville is that we wouldn’t have it any other way.

It is a rivalry that has been one of the best in the NHL, it has also been amongst the worst. In the 1980’s both teams were at the top of their game and each meeting was an epoch battle to see who would ultimately win the war. As the 90’s came and went, the Battle became less about war and more about survival. The Battle of Alberta had been reduced to the Battle of Albrutal.

Some would even argue that both teams had developed new rivalries apart from each other. Edmonton had some incredible games and series’ against the Dallas Stars, while Calgary spent seven years absent from the second season, they had developed more of a hate on for Vancouver. Though, even when things were down for both clubs, the fans kept the rivalry alive and well.

The Flames and the Oilers face each other for the 207th time tonight, Calgary holding the advantage with a record of 102-82-19-3. Even over the last few seasons, with Calgary being on the steady decline, it has always been a match-up we down south have looked forward to. There is just something special about lining up at center and knowing no matter what is wrong with the power play, the penalty killing, or who isn’t scoring, that facing the Oilers was going to be the Flames slump-buster; and it has been that way for the better part of the decade.

 

 EDMONTON NOTES

As the holiday season approaches, Christmas might have come just a little too early for the Edmonton Oilers. Starting off the season with youthful excitement, ready to show off their shiny new toy to the rest of the league, Edmonton sped through their first 10 games with a record of 6-2-2. They were playing at home a lot and the fans all admired the shiny new toy. The story away from Rexall was different, losing all 3, one of which was to the Flames.

The Oilers, for the most part, were playing it smart. Only certain people got to play with the shiny new toy. In the confines of home, ‘Nuge’ was part of an exciting unit that featured Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle. It was a blast from the past as the Oil’s new “Kid Line” was like a direct shot of adrenaline to the heart; add to that, the youthful rejuvenation of Smythe and Khabibulin’s outlandish save percentage; the Oil were cruising.

However, as expected, Edmonton is starting to come back to earth. What was once a 7-point lead on the Flames has been whittled down to 3-points - and Calgary with a game in hand.

As is customary in Stinktown, injuries have also crept their way into the party. One begins to wonder why scores of Edmonton players are stricken with ailments and maladies every year. Perhaps those who can't demand trades out of town simply hurt themselves as a way to avoid going to work? Kind of like soldiers who shoot themselves in the foot so they can leave the front lines. Speaking of wounded legs, Ryan Whitney is playing like a guy who was seized in the middle of his convalescence and shoved back into the active roster against his will.

Taylor Hall continues to miss time in the line-up and as such will miss playing Calgary for the third time this season. The Oil went 0 for 6 on the PP in the last game against the Flames, I have no doubt that missing Hall had something to do with that woeful stat.

Khabibulin still boasts a whopping .933 Sv% and 1.95 GAA, placing him 4th in the NHL in both categories. How much longer he can keep up these rates in beyond me, but if the play of the guys in front of him continues to regress, then Nik is bound to be dragged down with them. Of course, he may at some point decide to hit the bottle again, at which point the Oilers fortunes will depend on Devan "I can't believe I was a first round pick either" Dubnyk.

CALGARY NOTES

The Flames continue to be a team in limbo this season, and it 's having a serious impact on its fan-base. Half of them want management to blow it up, and half of them want them to get their act together and play like the team they could be/should. The obstacle, as always, has been themselves and it's fair to say the only thing they seem to be consistent at is being utterly inconsistent.

Too often the Flames have followed a positive effort with an abysmal one. That being said, Calgary has shown a positive start to the month of December, a month that will be critical if the Flames are to make up any ground in the standings. With 16 games and 4 sets of back-to-backs, this month will most likely dictate the fate of the rest of the season.

For a team that had absolutely no wiggle room at the start of the season, the Flames roster has gone through significant change. As much as Feaster said there was not going to be a wholesale change to this club, change has arrived, whether they like it or not. Calgary now has three rookies on the blueline, most notably T.J. Brodie, who has looked very good in his brief time here. Brodie bolsters speed and pretty good puck-handling. The other notable addition on the blue line was the calling up of Joe Piskula, who if you don’t know the name, all you have to really know is that he is the guy that has pretty much spelled it out clearly to Cory Sarich, that he just doesn’t fit in the Flames plans.

The return of Brendan Morrison and anticipated return of David Moss meant that it was time for Horak to be re-assigned to Abbotsford. Morrison has 6 pts in his 2 games back, so it looks like the Flames are going to ride this out and see where it takes them. Calgary has also recalled Greg Nemisz today in case the flu-stricken Alex Tanguay is unable to play.

With the OIl stumbling and on the second night of a back-to-back, I can’t think of a better team than the old “slump-busters” for the Flames to finally go above .500 for the first timethis season.

Enjoy part 3 of the Battle of Alberta!

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Vintage Flame is a Calgary based sports junkie that prefers to call hockey a "religion" rather than an addiction. He believes there are two types of hockey fans. Those who cheer for the Flames, and those who don't understand the sport yet. Follow Vintage_Flame on Twitter
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#51 Jerk Store
December 10 2011, 06:03PM
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VF, Denial ain't a river in Egypt baby. These squads are going in two divergant directions. Whatever the result tonight, that fact has to be obvious to even the most myopic among you Flamers. On that subject, which Flames' cousin is the NHL's schedule maker? Three games this year in the B of A - three times Oil are on the poopy end of back to backs. Whatever - we shall overcome. Rave on city of Cows.

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#52 terry
December 10 2011, 06:03PM
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funkyjaman wrote:

Wow! Some super classy folks on ON. Nothing like insulting someones weight to make yourself feel better. Did you run around bullying a few kids today as well? Push over an old lady? Kick a dog?

You stay classy Oil Nation...jeeeezzzz!

GGF'd

Not making fun of his weight just pointing out that he looks like a pig. It's fact.

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#53 ButtermilkBiscuitsAKAoilers2k10
December 10 2011, 06:03PM
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You will no longer see this account at this site..this was pure trash, are we trying to be friends with the flames now by letting them post trash articles here?

So long..

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#54 The Beaker
December 10 2011, 06:08PM
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ButtermilkBiscuitsAKAoilers2k10 wrote:

You will no longer see this account at this site..this was pure trash, are we trying to be friends with the flames now by letting them post trash articles here?

So long..

lol really?

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#55 schevvy
December 10 2011, 06:14PM
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Wow, c'mon guys, this was part of a bet Wanye made with Kent, as other comments have explained. Holy cow, take it easy. What are Flames fans supposed to do, be nice to the Oilers? You and I both know that an Oiler fan would do the exact same thing.

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#56 nofool6110
December 10 2011, 06:19PM
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Oilers fans just proved the point of the article with their derisive and boneheaded comments about the appearance of Feaster.

I, for one, would criticize the (lack of) moves he's made. Or the fact his organization's potential and reality both look worse than this one's. Insult his decisions, not his looks.

I'm all for stirring up the pot and I hate on the Flames just as much as the next guy. But please choose to do so in a way that doesn't make everyone else kind of ashamed.

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#57 Walter Sobchak
December 10 2011, 06:20PM
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schevvy wrote:

Wow, c'mon guys, this was part of a bet Wanye made with Kent, as other comments have explained. Holy cow, take it easy. What are Flames fans supposed to do, be nice to the Oilers? You and I both know that an Oiler fan would do the exact same thing.

RE-First paragraph.

"There is no doubt that when these two teams face each other, the stats and standings go out the window and for sixty minutes, only one thought comes to mind; Embrace the Hate! It’s us against them, family member against family member, and the only thing we can probably agree on with the toothless folk up in Shelbyville is that we wouldn’t have it any other way".

Just embracing the hate brother!

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#58 Skin
December 10 2011, 06:21PM
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@schevvy

Hey now that I know about the bet, I'm not so mad. Still it would be nice if there was more than just jabs. Sure. Take your shots, but at least actually preview the game. When someone from ON writes the GDB at FN for the next BoA, I hope and expect it will be done better.

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#59 DoubleTap
December 10 2011, 06:22PM
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What is this trash of an article doing on this website?

It's called Oilers Nation still right?

Logged on to read an article about the Oil before tonight's game and this is what is posted?

No comment on line pairings, any notes from the early morning skate, or anything else useful for an Oil fan.

This website used to be a great resource for fans who are to busy to follow every detail of the team and want to catch what's the latest with the team.

And the next game is against Carlonia? Update your website already.

Pathetic.

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#60 nofool6110
December 10 2011, 06:24PM
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And by the way... Oilers Lineup looks like...

Sam Gagner - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Jordan Eberle

Ryan Smyth - Shawn Horcoff - Ales Hemsky

Ben Eager - Eric Belanger - Ryan Jones

Darcy Hordichuk - Anton Lander - Lenart Petrell

Ladislav Smid - Tom Gilbert

Ryan Whitney - Jeff Petry

Theo Peckham - Colten Teubert

Nikolai Khabibulin

Devan Dubnyk

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#61 oilerman53
December 10 2011, 06:26PM
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I hope the Oilers hand it to the Shames tonight and kick the living snot out of this dead puck era team. This is the falling legacy of 2004 for the Flames. Their days of exciting clutch and grab Sutter hockey is coming to an end. By the end of the season they should be going terminal velocity into their freefall from relevence as a competitive hockey team.

While we go headfirst into glory with our electrifying team, the team and their fans can admire how admitting defeat and embracing crappiness for us two years in a row was the best thing ever. As were taking a whiz on their Ashes and winning games and championships while Nuge, Ebs and Hall are challenging scoring races. Flames will always be able to hold onto the fond memories of 2004 with Kipper Iggy and free boob flashing. Oilers crush the Flames tonight making Feaster go to Dairy Queen and buy an ice cream cake and figure out what he can get for his aging fading stars.

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#62 Stocc
December 10 2011, 06:30PM
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This was mostly garbage as other people have said but...

"Perhaps those who can't demand trades out of town simply hurt themselves as a way to avoid going to work?"

...wasn't too bad a crack.

Also, I suspect the Oilers will annihilate their opponents tonight.

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#63 Skin
December 10 2011, 06:30PM
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@nofool6110

Thanks but I found that on FN already.

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#64 Skin
December 10 2011, 06:33PM
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Over/under 2.5 number of Ryans that score for the Oilers tonight.

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#65 Mr. Pederson
December 10 2011, 06:36PM
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Q: Why is a bra better than the City of Calgary?

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#66 Mr. Pederson
December 10 2011, 06:36PM
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A: A Bra has two Cups.

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#67 They're $hittie
December 10 2011, 06:45PM
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This is such biased journalism. Keep it on flames nation. A lot of cheap shots at the oilers demanding trades. We will see whose team will have trade demands in the future. Oh and look at all those promising top end rookies in Calgary. How do you bring them up in a conversation with the oilers kids. Unbelievable. Look at hockeys future website. Calgary DEAD LAST. And the only reason the oilers arent firt is because there top end guys graduated.

EVERYONE IT IS VINTAGE NIGHT. GET OUT YOUR 04 IGINLA JERSEY

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Kent, please keep this guy from writing universal articles. I can at least respect your professionalism.

Backlund and Baetschi = CUP. HAHAHAHAHA

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#68 Wanyes bastard child
December 10 2011, 06:49PM
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Skin wrote:

Hey now that I know about the bet, I'm not so mad. Still it would be nice if there was more than just jabs. Sure. Take your shots, but at least actually preview the game. When someone from ON writes the GDB at FN for the next BoA, I hope and expect it will be done better.

Of course it will be done better, ON has you know, actual writers ;)

Not just bloggers living in their undies in their mom's basement :P

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#69 They're $hittie
December 10 2011, 06:50PM
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ANYONE UP FOR A PETITION TO KENT TO BAN VINTAGE FLAMES UNIVERSAL POSTING RIGHTS?

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#70 Wanyes bastard child
December 10 2011, 06:54PM
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@They're $hittie

Ah settle down, VF is actually not a bad chap eh... for a flames fan of course :P

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#71 Captain Ron
December 10 2011, 06:54PM
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iceman wrote:

Yeah, I've been a Flames fan my whole life. Now that I'm going to the U of A for my law degree I am getting a bit worried about how much better edmonton has changed in one season.

I mean we all ragged on this team for finishing last - but we can see that last year's finish was obviously worth the while.

Maybe it's time to sell the farm here in Calgary and try and get some potential on the team. I get worried when I see people talking up with Bartchi kid. He's another Robbie Schremp in the making. He has no physical game and he's ONLY effective on a first line. If he's going to be playing in the AHL or Flames he won't fit a third line role.

Anyway, as much as this REALLY sucks to admitt... I don't think there is going to be much luck for the Flames anymore.

" He has no physical game and is only effective on a first line"

Sounds like that Nugent Hopkins kid. I hear he's doing OK though.

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#72 sizedoesmatter
December 10 2011, 06:55PM
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The Calgary Flames play the Oilers like there is a firing squad waiting to line them up after the game if they lose.Like they will all get sent back to abbotsford if they dont give 1000and one percent I can see the veins popping from the sides of there heads as they backcheck.This Herculean effort is required in order to beat the oilers.

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#73 They're $hittie
December 10 2011, 07:15PM
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@Wanyes bastard child

yes, but when you are covering more than your home town as a member representing this site their should be no biases. If you want to write cheap shots like that on flames nation go ahead, or register as a commenter.

As a person I am sure he is a great guy.

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#74 edmontoncritic - BRoadwAY
December 10 2011, 07:44PM
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Are you guys seriously getting butthurt about a flamesfan giving your team the gears? Wow. Instead of crying "I'm not coming to this site again" why don't you try manning up and throwing a funny jab at flamesfans

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#75 David S
December 10 2011, 07:51PM
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Not sure why you guys are getting so worked up. I saw "Vintage Flame" instead of "Jason Gregor" and skipped right down to the comments.

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#76 jeanshorts
December 10 2011, 07:55PM
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Wanyes bastard child wrote:

Well said Brownlee!

Over at flames nation VF is only above Rosscreek for writers, even then not by much, thats gotta say something eh ;)

To be fair to RC he spends so much time trying to predict every single thing that will happen in the NHL so he can brag about being right on Twitter that he can't concentrate on anything else.

*Runs and hides in a pile of laundry*

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#77 ChinookArch
December 10 2011, 07:55PM
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To all@ ON:

YOU HAVE BEEN GOATED.

Well done VF, you were barely insulting and I believe you have at least 70 posts from ON.

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#79 jeanshorts
December 10 2011, 07:59PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

To all@ ON:

YOU HAVE BEEN GOATED.

Well done VF, you were barely insulting and I believe you have at least 70 posts from ON.

I do feel it's pretty telling that 3/4 of the people losing their minds are people I've never seen post here before. The CHUDs are out in full force tonight!

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#80 Robert Cleave
December 10 2011, 07:59PM
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Chat's open, kids.

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#81 T.C.
December 10 2011, 08:41PM
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Who the hell let a flamer do the GDB?total B.S.

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#82 5Cups
December 10 2011, 08:56PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

To all@ ON:

YOU HAVE BEEN GOATED.

Well done VF, you were barely insulting and I believe you have at least 70 posts from ON.

Thats because its posted on ON.

That will get some attn.

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#83 Shaun Doe
December 10 2011, 09:00PM
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@Vintage Flame

Infallable... Irony?

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#84 Robin Brownlee
December 10 2011, 09:03PM
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@Vintage Flame

"I'll be curious as to why a hack like you didn't get to write it . . ."

You're mixing up your tenses. As was the case with "epoch," if you're going to talk trash, you can't come off as a rank amateur doing it or somebody is bound to verbally fire up the lawnmower on you.

Like I said, VF, be better. Be better. Embrace spelling and grammar.

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#85 ani
December 10 2011, 09:39PM
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oil will likely lose. but thats because not as many players give it the paramount effort and intelligence as most of the shames players do whenever they play the oil. straight and simple !

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#86 Lofty
December 10 2011, 10:38PM
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Horcoff = black hole of offense Hemsky = most disinterested player award Petry = Over his head

What's the record for too many men penalties in a season?

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#87 mac962
December 10 2011, 10:39PM
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Nice typical effort, had the boys pumped fr this didnt you Tom nice dominance by Ales again , although he had others as well.

U guys are just scared of the Flames..plain and simple

fack enuff already.

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#88 Chris.
December 10 2011, 10:39PM
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I'm F@cking sick of this script. Boooooooooooo!

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#89 MAC962
December 10 2011, 10:41PM
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FACKING Bench hat tool Hemsky.

what a joke, he does not deserve to wear that jersey, especially

with the A on it. pack in in Alice and take Tom Renney w you.

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#90 funkyjaman
December 10 2011, 11:33PM
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@ Terry

Oilers lose again...now that's a fact!

oink oink!!

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#91 5Cups
December 11 2011, 12:05AM
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Well its getting more an more apparent that:

1) The Oilers miss Hall. 2) The Oilers will finish near or in the bottom 5. Fine, but what the hell do they do with another top 5 pick. I think we need to make a deal for some D. 3) The Oilers need to get this Flaming Monkey off their back. The Flames are not a better team.

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#92 Mangotanker
December 11 2011, 12:27AM
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Thanks for the laughs VF!!!!

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#93 Kevin R
December 11 2011, 12:36AM
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Mr. Pederson wrote:

A: A Bra has two Cups.

Wow thats good did you just make that up?? Hey did you see the game tonight? Are Oilers still leading the league? Did the they skate circles around that decrepid old Flames team? Are you refurbishing the City of Champions sign? Did the Oilers put an effort in tonight? If not why not? So much talent they didnt need to? How did that work out? You know, inquiring minds want to know.

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#94 FireOnIce
December 11 2011, 01:04AM
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95% of you are retarded. Whoever wins the most previous game gets to write the others' game day article. Way to stay up on things instead of showing up like a troll, retards.

The Flames won today because they played well - give me a line about Taylor Hall being out. Tell me how the refs gave us the game. Perhaps it was because Cam Barker was out and you would've won with him? Don't give me that BS.

The Flames are a mediocre team and we beat you. Don't be b!tchs and just enjoy it for what it was.

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#96 DSF
December 11 2011, 01:58AM
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What we really need is an Oilers/Canucks GDT chat.

Now that would fire up a few zambonis :)

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#97 Mr. Pederson
December 11 2011, 02:08AM
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@Kevin R

Kevin R,

I did watch the game tonight, and frankly was disappointed with the Oil's game. You guys won fair and square, I'll admit.

My joke was pointing fun at the history of our two teams.

It was said in a movie once (Braveheart?) that history is written by those who have hanged heroes. So who did we hang? Lanny? Nice stache bud. You can bring up the Phlegms having the all time winning record against the Oil all you want, who has won when it counts?

I know people are starting to prefer math and advanced stats and such, here's some algebra:

Oilers = 5 X Flames

Questions?

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#98 David S
December 11 2011, 03:35AM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

You know what the best part about getting to write this article and have all the trolls crawl out from under their rocks that are buried in the depths of their parent's basements, is?

Being right.

Despite all the issues that the Flames have with their roster, the amount of rookies being forced into the line up, and the consensus of the fans that this team hasn’t really definitively picked a direction to go in; we still consistently kick the crap out of Stinktown. Face it E-town, the Flames are in the heads of the Oilers. It's hard to win a game when you go into it already frustrated and ready to lose... again.

@ Robin

Thanks for the tips professor; you would have been a great English teacher. Maybe for the next BoA, you can bring your invaluable insight into the chat and actually discuss the merits of your hockey team.

P.S. Great piece on Sutton (yes, I read it), I especially liked your comment as to how you expect the Oilers to be passed by Los Angeles and Calgary. Thanks for keepin’ it real, yo. ;)

In the words of the late GREAT, Ed Whalen..

"In the meantime, and in between time. That's it, another edition..."

Pretty funny coming from a guy who just wrote the Oilers troll bible for a game day post. You could at least have thrown up the teams' game time lineups to garner a sliver of credibility.

Next you're gonna tell us we're going to have to endure yet another Flames-infested game day post. What's that? You get to post until we win?

Crap.

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#99 madjam
December 11 2011, 09:43AM
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What winning results have Oilers upper management and coaching have over the Flames . Tams record is zero and Renneys is one year only on their resumes for starters . Feaster and Sutter have most years as winners . With all the Oiler talent why is it not doing better than a supposedly weak Flames talent level ? The biggest difference between the two teams is the Flames have Feaster and Sutter , while we are being led by two who epitmize losing seasons . How do we overcome that firstly ?

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#100 ChinookArch
December 11 2011, 09:46AM
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5Cups wrote:

Thats because its posted on ON.

That will get some attn.

Of course it will get attn, but you don't have to respond.

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