FlamesNation Glossary

Kent Wilson
April 27 2011 11:54AM

 

 

By popular demand, here is the FN Glossary of Terms.

Corsi - a stat for all the shots directed for and against while a player is on the ice at even strength. Includes shots, missed shots and blocked shots

Fenwick - Same as corsi, except with blocked shots omitted

PDO - A stat for even strength on-ice shooting and save percentages for a player. Can also be applied to teams

ES - even strength

Possession - another team for "corsi", since it is a proxy for possession of the puck in the offensive zone

Sex Panther - Olli Jokinen

CHUD - Olli Jokinen

Zone start - The ratio of offensive zone to defensive zone face-offs for a player at even strength

(Name)! Is! Available! - A fictious ad campaign for the trading away of players. Based on the Steve Staio PS contest

Nolli Goalagain - Olli Jokinen

Butter - Brent Sutter

Dutter - Darryl Sutter

Sparklepants - Todd Bertuzzi. Originally dreamed up at M&G

The Dancing Bear(s) - A goon or the act of heavy weights engaging in a meaningless fight

Olli Postagain - Olli Jokinen

Quality of Competition - the measure of the quality of opponents a skater faces. QoC is calculated via either weighted scoring or corsi of a players opponents 

Relative corsi - A players cosi rating versus the rest of his team. Calculated by subtracting the team's collective corsi rating while he's off the ice from his on-ice corsi rating. Can be used to calculate the relative corsi rating of his opponents for qality of competition purposes

Cowbell - A facet of the game or a skill that a coach/GM overemphasizes in terms of importance to winning. See: Brian Burke and "truculence"

Wayne Gretz - The Nations sites Evil Overlord. Well known for erratic behavior and nonsensical raving. His mental disturbances manifest in his Oilers fandom. Wayne's shady affiliations are numerous: he's an Elk, a communist, a Mason and the president of the gay and lesbian alliance for some reason.

Mo(n)sster - David Moss:

This post can be added to on an as-needed basis. Feel free to request additions at any time. 

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#1 SmellOfVictory
April 27 2011, 01:01PM
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@Monaertchi

If I recall correctly, PDO is calculated by adding the team shooting percentage while a player is on the ice with the goalie's save percentage while the player is on the ice. On average, it should trend toward 100 (100 being what you would get if you added the entire league's shooting and save percentages together). If it's high or low for a short period (less than two seasons) it generally indicates either good or bad luck for that player. If it's consistently high or low (multiple seasons) it can potentially be indicative of a player's skill level, with very good players having a higher PDO and very bad ones having a lower PDO.

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#2 Robert Cleave
April 27 2011, 01:07PM
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@Monaertchi

To expand on SOV's post, the reason that we concentrate on that number is that there is a very strong correction back to 100 over time, both at the individual and team level, with a particular regression for teams. With that in mind, I tend to be very sceptical of a team or player that achieves good EV results just via the percentages, since there's little evidence that teams in particular can have that work for them on a repeating basis. There are players that can have high SH% numbers for extended periods, but those gents aren't nearly as common as one might think. Volume outshooting shows some decent evidence of being a repeatable skill, both for players and teams. Percentages, or the bounces if you will, are much more random. The trick is to not be confused into thinking a team or player is better or worse than they really are just because of a run of luck.

The example that I might use from last year was Colorado. They had a very high team SH% and SV% through the first 60 games of 09/10. That gave them out-scoring results that wouldn't have matched their ability to drive possession. To listen to a few of Colorado's fans, one might have thought they'd invented a new way to play hockey. They hadn't, of course, and when reality set in toward the end of last year and this year, their results plummeted. Dallas and Anaheim had that sort of mojo working for them this season. Boston had it in 08/09 and this year. The Flames had it in spades from late December to early March this year, as well as the first two months of 09/10.

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#3 Domebeers.com
April 29 2011, 10:30AM
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Where's milskey?

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#4 SmellOfVictory
April 27 2011, 12:11PM
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I may have asked this before, and I may or may not have forgotten the answer:

Corsi QoC/Corsi Rel QoC, Corsi QoT/Corsi Rel QoT: which means which? I've always assumed that Corsi Rel QoC/QoT meant a player's Corsi adjusted for QoC/QoT, thus being the more relevant measurements. Is that right?

Other stuff to add:

Corsi Rel: Comparison of shots for/against when a player is on the ice relative to shots for/against when that player is not on the ice (e.g. the team average).

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#5 Monaertchi
April 27 2011, 12:27PM
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Quality of Competition

How is PDO calculated, and what does it tell us?

Is this going to be "pinned" somewhere so that I can have easy access in the future when I've forgotten what Corsi is?

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#8 rubbertrout
April 27 2011, 02:07PM
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Dutter a.k.a. Dazza

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#9 icedawg_42
April 27 2011, 02:21PM
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Poor Olli - I love it! - Chud!

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#10 Robert Cleave
April 27 2011, 02:22PM
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If GlenX stays, Scoreface should be added, no?

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#12 FireOnIce
April 27 2011, 02:54PM
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Thanks for the glossary Kent, always get confused on the meanings of some of these terms so it's good to have them for future reference.

The guys and gals over at Mile High Hockey tend to scoff at the use of corsi rates to describe how truly lucky the Avs were in 09/10, but, to quote the Simpsons...

Now who's laughing? Now who's laughing?

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#14 Tach
April 27 2011, 09:24PM
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I think a photo entry for Mo(n)ss(ter) needs to be added here as well.

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#16 CP is GARBAGE
April 28 2011, 05:48PM
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Sami Salo = Sami Hurto

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#17 Clay
May 02 2011, 03:20PM
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Isn't it Wanye Gretz, not Wayne? You know, a play on Kanye West. Better spell your boss' name right!

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