The Feaster Files

Pat Steinberg
June 20 2011 03:09PM

Jay Feaster addressed the media on Monday afternoon with a number of interesting tidbits coming from his conversation.  The first announcement was the contract extension of goaltender Henrik Karlsson, which is covered below, but Feaster also added new information regarding Alex Tanguay, Brendan Mikkelson and what the team is thinking heading into a very important two week period.


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The Karlsson signing is an interesting one.  To be honest, I don't dislike it the same way Robert did on Twitter; I think it shows the confidence the Flames have in Karlsson going forward.  I saw a ton of progression from the guy in his first season in North America, and if that progression continues, I think this signing might end up being a good one.  If it doesn't, it's not the most difficult contract to send to the minors.

The biggest news item came regarding Alex Tanguay, as Feaster's quote was "we're not where we need to be" in negotiations with the pending unrestrcited free agent.  When asked what the sticking point was, Feaster was very blunt in his response, retorting "it's money," and leaving it at that.  It leads me to believe that the current issue is not the length of a contract but moreso the annual salary, and it sounds a whole lot less optimistic than the last time we heard from the Flames GM.  It also seems like a bit of a departure from the reports last week that the deal was close to being done, so we shall wait and see.  I'd still be very surprised if Tanguay isn't back next season, even with Feaster's comments today.

Feaster revealed qualifying offers have been tendered to two pending restricted free agents in goalie Leland Irving and defenceman Brendan Mikkelson.  The Irving one makes sense, he's earned another contract, and he'll likely accept that offer.  I do wonder whether the QO tendered to Mikkelson gives us any indication as to the status of Adam Pardy's future with the team, but that's just speculation.

The Flames still have five pending RFA's to deal with, if they so choose.  Forwards John Armstrong and Hugo Carpentier along with defenders Matt Pelech, Josh Meyers and Gord Baldwin are all without offers at this point.  It doesn't mean offers cannot still be tendered, as that's still a possibility for all five, but as I laid out last week, I only expect a select few to actually fall into that category.

Finally, the most refreshing piece of news came in the form of Feaster's comments about buying out players.  He was very adamant that buyouts are not something he wants to be getting into, which is the right way to go about things, plain and simple.  There's no need to waste money next year buying out guys like Cory Sarich and Niklas Hagman when it's much more prudent to just be patient and ride out their contracts.

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#1 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 03:47PM
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I'm mildly surprised about the Mikkelson qualifying offer. The team sure didn't seem all that enamored with him last year.

On the other hand, I'm not surprised the Flames haven't qualified some of the other guys. There's still time, but if Chucko, Pelech, etc. all walk, I don't think anyone should be shocked.

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#2 jealous broadcaster
June 20 2011, 04:00PM
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I would not expect Matt Pelech to sign another deal with the Flames. Tough to say if he's going to be a regular in NHL ever, but from the player's perspective, the Flames haven't given him many chances to show his stuff in the worlds best league.

If I'm the player, I'm confident AT LEAST one of the other 29 teams will provide a better opportunity to get looks in the NHL (he only got 5 NHL games in the 2008-2009 season). Also, Pelech doesn't know who has the reins in Abby or what kind of game the team will play with the recent turnover on the Heat's bench.

From a Flames perspective, with Carson and Mikkelson signed already, and the expected emergence of TJ Brodie, it appears the only thing to offer Pelech is another spell in Abbotsford.

Good luck to a character guy, who may or may not ever be a regular NHLer.

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#3 Robert Cleave
June 20 2011, 04:04PM
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If Erixon was still in the org., I'm not so sure that Mikkelson would have been qualified. Right place, right time, imo.

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#4 jealous broadcaster
June 20 2011, 04:05PM
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@jealous broadcaster

And of course Mikkelson is 'Qualified' not signed (oooops), but... you know... priorities and such.

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#6 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 04:57PM
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Yeah Pelech hasn't progressed at all the last couple years. I don't know if that's because of injuries or he just has a low ceiling, but he plateaued awhile ago. I can't imagine he'll ever be more than a fringe guy at best.

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#7 Domebeers.com
June 20 2011, 05:24PM
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Honest question:

If we are letting bad contracts run out in the NHL, instead of sending them down to the AHL (or, God forbid, having other teams claim them off waivers), ie actively hampering the teams competitiveness, in the name of 'prudence', why are we signing guys like Tanguay and Glencross?

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#8 Colin
June 20 2011, 05:41PM
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We don't have much in the way of Dmen coming into Abbotsford this year so I would very much like to see Matt Pelech, Josh Meyers and Gord Baldwin stay in Abby for the time being. Who knows maybe this last year and with the change in management guys feel refreshed and a new air is brought into the Org and we see something out of them.

Armstrong and Hugo I couldn't care about, with Howse, Horak coming into Abby most likely and hopefully Cameron has a bounce back year as well and if Bancks gets another contract I'd rather they get time over Arm and Hugo.

As for the Tanguay thing, if we don't re-sign him our offense is gonna be putried to watch, you can't just replace his 20G and I believe 60+ points and you can't replace his chemistry with Iggy. There is NO ONE on the FA market this year that is gonna be able to replace him(Anyone thinking richards can go kick themselves he's not playing here unless we get him 2-3 million more than his other best offer). So if Feaster and CO have decided that even after dumping both Kotalik and Hagman in minors/europe they still don't have enough money. You either Buyout Sarich or find someway to dump him on another team(think Primeau trade with Toronto), cause if the ONLY thing is money you do what you are able to, to keep him and you swallow Sarichs 1.4/1.1 buyout cap hit to get the extra 2.4 million to sign Tanguay this year.

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#9 Austin
June 20 2011, 06:13PM
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@Colin

I agree I don't really care about Matt Pelech, he's hasn't shown us he deserves a decent chance. I'd be willing to resign Bancks and Baldwin.

Tanguay is a must sign. He's probably looking for the 4M$ mark so I don't know if Feaster would be willing to give him that. If it doesn't look like a signing is probable, hopefully we could do another last minute deal and score some draft picks (second rounders or late first round). Maybe trade him to a team that needs to buy their way up to the cap floor. Again, this is ONLY if there is no hope of signing him as there was with Erixon. But if this happened again, it would really sting.

On a more positive note, I'm very glad to see Karlsson resigned. I think he deserves another chance after he gained the team's support. FIST PUMP! I'm not saying I don't want to see Irving not get his chance. It'll be interesting to see how Irving does in the preseason. If he doesn't wow anybody, I'm glad he'll at least get the chance to start in Abbotsford.

I'm also looking forward to watching Ryan Howse and Roman Horak in training camp. Are they likely to be re-sent to the WHL or do they come to the AHL now?

I'm glad to hear that Feaster is willing to take the BEST player available, although I'm still not to happy about why Button is still Chief Scout. He hasn't had that awesome of a record, and why not fire him and replace him with Michel Goulet? Or either switch their places.

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#10 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 06:28PM
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I think the main issue with re-signing Tanugay has been implicitly raised by Colin and Austin above: the Flames need Tanguay more than he needs the Flames. Although we might like to think Tanguay will harbor good feelings because of his renaissance, the truth is he's bound to know it's a thin UFA crop this year and he's bound to be a hot commodity.

The Flames, however, need Tanguay for lots of reasons listed, but can only sign him for what could be a modest amount. The leverage is pretty much all his.

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#11 Justin Azevedo
June 20 2011, 06:41PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I'm mildly surprised about the Mikkelson qualifying offer. The team sure didn't seem all that enamored with him last year.

On the other hand, I'm not surprised the Flames haven't qualified some of the other guys. There's still time, but if Chucko, Pelech, etc. all walk, I don't think anyone should be shocked.

I CALLED IT ON THE PODCAST BOW TO ME

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#12 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 06:45PM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

I CALLED IT ON THE PODCAST BOW TO ME

Never!

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#13 Colin
June 20 2011, 07:23PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I think the main issue with re-signing Tanugay has been implicitly raised by Colin and Austin above: the Flames need Tanguay more than he needs the Flames. Although we might like to think Tanguay will harbor good feelings because of his renaissance, the truth is he's bound to know it's a thin UFA crop this year and he's bound to be a hot commodity.

The Flames, however, need Tanguay for lots of reasons listed, but can only sign him for what could be a modest amount. The leverage is pretty much all his.

Just looking at this list - http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php - You can see why Tanguay is more than willing to go to FA. After Richards(who is ONLY going to the Rags/Leafs/maybe one other team) the Forward crop is SEVERLY thin(top 6 forward wise). Next is Gagne, okay but didn't do himself a lot of favours in TB especially playing with all that offense. Then you have Connoly(who the flames should look at if the price is right) but who really has been a disapointment. Nylander and Kovalev, FACE LOL @ THEM! And from there it only goes more down hill.

There are a LOT of good depth players, but no one that you could really put on a 1st line and call it a day. I think everyone else realized that Tanguay is still an elite offensive player and if played right(IE not how TB used him) can really be effective on both ends of the ice. He was on great pace in Montreal before he got hurt and everyone seems to foget that.

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#14 jealous broadcaster
June 20 2011, 08:08PM
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@Pat Steinberg

So what exactly do you disagree with that I said?

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#15 FrankTheTank
June 20 2011, 08:10PM
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The fist thing I thought about when Jay was saying that Hank may become a number one with more work (loose translation) is that Kipper might be dealt next off season. Make sense since his nmc ends at the end of this season... With all the UFA's next year, wouldn’t surprise me if they started taking apart the core of the team, and tried to establish a new one, course i may just be reading into things too much.

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#16 Justin Azevedo
June 20 2011, 08:22PM
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jealous broadcaster wrote:

So what exactly do you disagree with that I said?

Pelech does not deserve a chance to compete because he hasn't shown that he can.

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#17 jealous broadcaster
June 20 2011, 08:27PM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

Pelech does not deserve a chance to compete because he hasn't shown that he can.

I didn't suggest that Pelech deserved more ice-time in the NHL, I suggested that Matt Pelech likley feels that he deserves a chance (which from speaking with those who know him, is the case).

I personally have no problem with the Flames handling of Pelech.

Anything else?

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#18 Kypreos
June 20 2011, 08:55PM
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Has anyone seriously heard what it may take to sign Tanguay?

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#19 gussey
June 20 2011, 08:56PM
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Anyone know how much $ Tanguay is looking for?

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#20 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 09:00PM
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It sounds like Tanguay isn't going for the "discount" (and no reason he should). I think he'll cost $4M per. At least.

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#21 Colin
June 20 2011, 09:23PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

It sounds like Tanguay isn't going for the "discount" (and no reason he should). I think he'll cost $4M per. At least.

Thats what everyone is saying, but if thats the case, this deal was done two weeks ago if Feaster says that all it is, is about the money. 4 Million is a good deal for both team and Tanguay, Tanguy will be better this year, after a terrible season in TB, he wass still getting his confidence back to start the season, he should be coming into this season flying.

I'm think that Tanguay is probably asking for closer to the 5.5M range(which some stupid team will give him over 5 years come July 1).

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#22 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 09:36PM
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4 Million is a good deal for both team and Tanguay

There's two issues here: the term, which can be a sticking point at longer than two years, and the fact that the Flames have more than $57M already committed with guys like Pardy, Babchuk, Staios and Morrison to replace or re-sign. If Tanguay soaks up $4M in space, the team will have about $3M to spend on the rest of the roster.

Of course, moving a Hagman or a Sarich makes things a bit easier, but even then you have to replace those guys with someone else.

Let's also keep in mind that with these moves, the Flames basically trying to run in place rather than improve a team that placed 10th in the west last year.

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#23 JF
June 20 2011, 09:50PM
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Pat Steinberg wrote:

Dude, I know you're always jumping to rip the Flames, but what the eff are you talking about? Seriously...have you seen this guy at camp?

Matt Pelech has NEVER shown he can cut it at the NHL level...for a variety of different reasons. Last camp was his chance to really make an impression and he did...a bad one. Bad reads that made his meh skating more visible.

Of course he hasn't had a chance in the NHL, he hasn't earned one from his play.

Never?... I dunno I thought he looked fine during the cup of coffee he got a few years back.

In all fairness to him bad reads, poor skating (not to mention a 2.7M price tag) didn't stop Staois from getting a spot.

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#24 Colin
June 20 2011, 09:55PM
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@Kent Wilson

"There's two issues here: the term, which can be a sticking point at longer than two years,"

Well Feaster said that it was all about the dollars today, so I'm not including Term/NMC/NTC or anything else, just about the dollars. Course, Feaster could be a lying sack of crap as well like all previous GMs.

So my comment to you was that if you are saying its about the 4M, it is very good deal for the Flames, tell me who else in the Free Agent market is gonna give you want Tanguay does, and its not just his points, its making the players around him better, IE Iggy. So if Feaster says its the money and you are saying(and Most everyone) that 4M will do it then this deal should be over by now. My gut feeling says its over 5 or even 5.5 that Tanguay is asking for, knowing a team will give it to him as he is probably the 2nd best offensive forward on July 1.

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#25 Kypreos
June 20 2011, 10:14PM
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Just throwing this out there, but do you think a deal is already done with Tanguay, however the club is working on something bigger in terms of a trade and revealing a deal with Tanguay would reduce the teams leverage? Complete the trade and reveal Tanguay is signed after that.......

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#26 Kent Wilson
June 20 2011, 10:16PM
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@Colin

I should add that I'm not as high on Tanguay as most people are, and I've been an avid defender of his for years. Him and Iginla definitely did well overall in terms of generating offense, but they didn't face the big boys, they didn;t drive possession and their score-tied numbers at ES were amongst the worst on the team. That's not something that screams success in the future, particularly since neither of these guys is 23-years old.

I think the team is probably better with Tanguay than without. But not at all costs. If he prices himself out of the Flames range in terms of either yearly dollars or term, they should walk. Calgary's not winning the Stanely cup next year anyways.

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#27 Colin
June 20 2011, 10:19PM
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Kypreos wrote:

Just throwing this out there, but do you think a deal is already done with Tanguay, however the club is working on something bigger in terms of a trade and revealing a deal with Tanguay would reduce the teams leverage? Complete the trade and reveal Tanguay is signed after that.......

The would mean that the Flames would be trading from a position of strength, there is NO strengths on this team. There would be no trade situation where not telling people that Tanguay is signed would hurt the trade. The only people calgary WANTS to trade are people we can't trade.

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#28 John Deere Green
June 20 2011, 10:19PM
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Was looking through the Hockey News today and seen Mike Comrie was a UFA. I don't like his attitude and he's been hurt an awful lot recently, but they say he would likely sign for a million or less. Could he help the second line, maybe the first occasionaly if injuries happen? He's played in the western conference, put up a few points here and there. I don't know what he is like defensively, likely not the best, but he is cheap. I like Simon Gagne but I'm not sure how he would do in this conference. Just a couple thoughts. Wonder if Feaster will throw an offer sheet at any RFA to keep things interesting? Probably not, we need all the picks we can get for a few years.

Really have enjoyed the coverage the last month or so here fellows. Can't wait for your coverage for the next week or two here, it should be fun!

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#29 todd
June 20 2011, 10:19PM
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The Flames, LIKE SANDLER in Wedding Singer, are falling apart and my Nucks are reaping the benefits.

Next year we will be better. The Sedins had to fact some of the toughest d-pairing match ups in the playoffs. First Seabrook/Keith, then Weber/Suter, then Murray and Pickles, and finally Chara and the other German Guy Disco Dirk forgot about. It came to a game 7, that's not that bad. If the refs actually called Chara's clutching and grabbing we would have the cup.

Our core is intact, all we need is to change some of the spare parts and we'll be fine.

If Tanguay leaves Flames are in BIG trouble. Who is Iggy going to play with? Jokelson again? LOL REALLY CALGARY?

Uncles Fester seems to be a graduate of the Ken King school of spin. You can tell by the expression on his face that he knows he's in trouble.

So make that Rhett Warrener, Rich Winter, Jim Playfair, and NHLPA survey as those who say they don't want to play in Cowtown.

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#30 Colin
June 20 2011, 10:24PM
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@Kent Wilson

The only thing is you still have to field a competitive team, and Tangs will do that best out of this years Free Agent class.

And if you can get at least another year out of both of them and they can both put up big numbers, at least it opens up the possibility that when it comes time to trade Iggy or Tangs if he isn't signed to long, can really open up the team for the future.

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#31 Justin Azevedo
June 20 2011, 10:25PM
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#32 SmellOfVictory
June 20 2011, 10:52PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I think the main issue with re-signing Tanugay has been implicitly raised by Colin and Austin above: the Flames need Tanguay more than he needs the Flames. Although we might like to think Tanguay will harbor good feelings because of his renaissance, the truth is he's bound to know it's a thin UFA crop this year and he's bound to be a hot commodity.

The Flames, however, need Tanguay for lots of reasons listed, but can only sign him for what could be a modest amount. The leverage is pretty much all his.

If the term isn't more than 3ish years and they can fit him in this year, maybe a bit of a bloated contract would be worth it in this case. The 12/13 season won't be an issue because the Flames lose a ton of garbage contracts, and presumably (fingers crossed) they'll be getting more ELCs in on the team. The nice thing about their current cap Hell is that it really is hard for it to get worse at this stage.

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#33 the forgotten man
June 20 2011, 10:56PM
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Why, for the Love of God, and all that is sacred are we even hearing the name Tod (my Mom forgot the "d") Button in a podcast dated one June 20th, 2011...does this guy have some 'layaway clause', regarding his soul, with the Devil and his bagman, Ken King?? You sometimes have to wonder if the Flames are a "shell company" for some Federal Crown Corporation...one has to bend the laws of incompetency to be fired from this group!

Although the Feast and K-squared talk a good game, keeping around guys like Button is a case of "one action speaks louder than a 10,000 words" (as we all know how much Feaster likes to work his yap).

Pray tell, but how can any critical observer take this group seriously with this garbage, or more importantly have any legitimate faith that Tod(d) Button is going to draft us to the Promised Land??

Steinberg, Wilson, Todd from Vancouver...anyone??

~Concerned Flames Fans (Living & Dead)

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#34 RKD
June 20 2011, 11:06PM
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Wow, I think $5-5.5 million for Tanguay is too much. He did rebound nicely last season but struggled the two previous seasons. I think 4.5-4.75 would be better. Remember when Jokinen was making 5.5 million per season.

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#35 Colin
June 20 2011, 11:28PM
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Wow, I think $5-5.5 million for Tanguay is too much. He did rebound nicely last season but struggled the two previous seasons. I think 4.5-4.75 would be better. Remember when Jokinen was making 5.5 million per season.

I'm just being hypothetical, I don't know what Tanguay is asking for, but looking at it logically and this years free agents, it very well could be what he is asking, but anything over 4 we REALLY need to look at seriously and if it is over 4, no NTC/NMC AT ALL!

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#36 Austin
June 20 2011, 11:35PM
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@Kent Wilson

I think he's probably asking for about 4.5M from the Flames....... which we can't really afford.

I've heard some talk of him being traded to Columbus as a set-up man for Rick Nash?? That Feaster is looking to get into that #8 spot which the Jackets have. With that we might have to sweeten the pot a bit, maybe even put in a Bouwmeester or Regehr. I know this sounds really drastic especially with the NTC/NMCs factored in, but does Bouwmeester really enjoy playing that much here? I mean if you're making 6M

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#37 Austin
June 20 2011, 11:38PM
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a year, does it really matter?

I wouldn't be opposed to moving up by a good amount in the draft. The top 10 look very promising. I know anything inside the top 5 is unrealistic, but I could see trading to the #7 as very nice, although if we did move up, we might have to settle for #8. If we had #7 though, we could likely pickup the one guy that falls out of those top 5/6.

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#38 Nolan Moore
June 20 2011, 11:56PM
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I think with this Tanguay if he doesnt get resigned it will just go to show that Feaster or whomever at the organization has their priorities all wrong. The presser today, Feaster said all the right things but again the one point i keep hearing from him is him talking about his mistakes in Tampa and that he's not a hockey guy. My question for the Flames, then WHY THE H E (DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS) did they sign him? Why are they giving all this power to Sutter when he's done nothing in 2 years (unless you count turn a playoff team into a non playoff team)? Feaster is a good assistant, he's NOT a GM. The organisation is delusional. Some good signings, some good moves but for the most part im not impressed. Flames should have jumped last year to bring in Stevie Y and a new coach when they had a shot.

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#39 FireOnIce
June 21 2011, 02:14AM
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In draft news... if the newest TSN rankings are to believed, and somewhat followed by organizations, both Sven Bartschi and Mark McNeill may be available come pick #13. As well as Joel Armia. I would put a notch, mind you the first one, in Feaster's "Things Done Right" column if he drafted Bartschi or McNeill.

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#40 CitizenFlame
June 21 2011, 06:29AM
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What's the word on Thomas Fleischman? Is he healthy now and has he been signed? If Tanguay prices himself out of Flames range then I think he's worth a look.

I didn't expect Tanguay to take a haircut to stay here, but if he's asking more than $4 million per Calgary should seriously consider walking away especially if the rumored term - 4 years - is real. Locking up Tanguay until he is 35-36 isn't the direction I thought the team would be looking to go after next season.

I like the Karlsson signing, but I am getting concerned with how this team is signing all of its own retreads after a 10th place season. Unless the idea is to not get better and get a top 10 pick next year or that the team brass think that this team is the one from Dec. 23 on and not the team from November.

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#41 the-wolf
June 21 2011, 07:11AM
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Looks like Warrener had Tanguay pegged from the start - no chance of a hometown discount here.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Feaster stated he offered $4 million/2 years or $2.75 million/4 years?

Honestly, I don't think I'd go over $4.5 million/3 years - MAX! As Kent stated, we're not winning the Cup this year anyways. I also agree with Shutout - any NTC should be limited to no more than 2 years or if Iginla is moved (thus making Tanguay's void). I say thi sbecause we all know he's going to wan tone.

Still if we can't sign Tanguay, why even bother to keep Iginla?

When Feaster says no buyouts I wonder if he means demotions as well? As I've said before, it's easy to spend other people's money, but the owners can't be too happy about the prospect of spending $6+ million on players not playing for the Flames. On the other hand, what othe roptions do they have?

@Nolan Moore- agreed! What I've been saying all along. Why take a guy who states he's not a hockey guy and put him in charge of hockey ops?

@ Austin - I don't think we have anything anybody wants to move up that high.

The Flames will have the same team as last year, but a year older and more expensive and with Glencross and Tanguay far less motivated.

Unless you believe this:

http://outlawsportstv.com/ep231.php

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#42 icedawg_42
June 21 2011, 07:46AM
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Austin wrote:

I think he's probably asking for about 4.5M from the Flames....... which we can't really afford.

I've heard some talk of him being traded to Columbus as a set-up man for Rick Nash?? That Feaster is looking to get into that #8 spot which the Jackets have. With that we might have to sweeten the pot a bit, maybe even put in a Bouwmeester or Regehr. I know this sounds really drastic especially with the NTC/NMCs factored in, but does Bouwmeester really enjoy playing that much here? I mean if you're making 6M

If the Flames offer any more than 4 then the term should be 2 years. He probably wants 4 x 4 with NMC - which would be a bad move. There's no way I'd see Columbus moving #8 overall just for the right to talk to Tangs, especially with FA just over a week away, but you never know. I suppose it's possible to sweeten the pot with Reggie, but, though I like JBo, his contract is somewhat unattractive on the market I would imagine.

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#43 Dominator39
June 21 2011, 08:54AM
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todd wrote:

The Flames, LIKE SANDLER in Wedding Singer, are falling apart and my Nucks are reaping the benefits.

Next year we will be better. The Sedins had to fact some of the toughest d-pairing match ups in the playoffs. First Seabrook/Keith, then Weber/Suter, then Murray and Pickles, and finally Chara and the other German Guy Disco Dirk forgot about. It came to a game 7, that's not that bad. If the refs actually called Chara's clutching and grabbing we would have the cup.

Our core is intact, all we need is to change some of the spare parts and we'll be fine.

If Tanguay leaves Flames are in BIG trouble. Who is Iggy going to play with? Jokelson again? LOL REALLY CALGARY?

Uncles Fester seems to be a graduate of the Ken King school of spin. You can tell by the expression on his face that he knows he's in trouble.

So make that Rhett Warrener, Rich Winter, Jim Playfair, and NHLPA survey as those who say they don't want to play in Cowtown.

So this id the "Todd" everybody was writing about! I get it now!

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#44 icedawg_42
June 21 2011, 09:13AM
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LOL

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#45 everton fc
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Looks like Warrener had Tanguay pegged from the start - no chance of a hometown discount here.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Feaster stated he offered $4 million/2 years or $2.75 million/4 years?

Honestly, I don't think I'd go over $4.5 million/3 years - MAX! As Kent stated, we're not winning the Cup this year anyways. I also agree with Shutout - any NTC should be limited to no more than 2 years or if Iginla is moved (thus making Tanguay's void). I say thi sbecause we all know he's going to wan tone.

Still if we can't sign Tanguay, why even bother to keep Iginla?

When Feaster says no buyouts I wonder if he means demotions as well? As I've said before, it's easy to spend other people's money, but the owners can't be too happy about the prospect of spending $6+ million on players not playing for the Flames. On the other hand, what othe roptions do they have?

@Nolan Moore- agreed! What I've been saying all along. Why take a guy who states he's not a hockey guy and put him in charge of hockey ops?

@ Austin - I don't think we have anything anybody wants to move up that high.

The Flames will have the same team as last year, but a year older and more expensive and with Glencross and Tanguay far less motivated.

Unless you believe this:

http://outlawsportstv.com/ep231.php

Perhaps... Tanguay would have given Darryl a hometown discount... But not Feaster...?? Sutter was a hockey guy - can speak the language. Feaster, a businessman. Not saying Sutter is better than Feaster... "Just sayin'"...

I think Tanguay has more value than Glencross... Now... and in the next little while.

Any news on Morrison?

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#46 backburner
June 21 2011, 10:17AM
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@todd

A lot of teams will be better next year... Vancouver had their chance... they blew it... YAAAAYY BOSTON!!!!!

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#47 Palt
June 21 2011, 10:28AM
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I personally belive Tanguay will resign. There are very few teams in the league that would give him the circumstances that he's given in Calgary(play on the #1 line, play with Iginla, 1st line pp time). The big paycheck might be a nice thing to get July 1st, but having great success with an organization that will give you situations to succeed is probably more desirable, at least in my eyes.

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If the Flames offer any more than 4 then the term should be 2 years. He probably wants 4 x 4 with NMC - which would be a bad move. There's no way I'd see Columbus moving #8 overall just for the right to talk to Tangs, especially with FA just over a week away, but you never know. I suppose it's possible to sweeten the pot with Reggie, but, though I like JBo, his contract is somewhat unattractive on the market I would imagine.

Your right icedawg_42. No team would give up a first rounder to get negotiating rights for a potential UFA. When the Flames got Bouwmeesters negotiations rights at the draft the summer he was signed, they only had to trade a 3rd rounder and Jordan Leopold to the Panthers, and Leopold has a potential UFA come July 1 too.

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#49 Dano0049
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Like what Sutter used to do every draft, if we can drop back 4 spots and still get the player we have a top our wish list plus a 2nd or 3rd rounder for moving back, I can see Feaster doing that. If the past is any indication that will be Calgary's play on Friday. If one of the top 10 fall to us at 13 we should nab them instead though. Can always do something else to get another 3rd round or lower pick.

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#50 the-wolf
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I do think Tanguay will sign, but I don't see it being cheap or even discounted. As noted already, he has all the leverage.

And if a team is willing to pay him $5 million then they're most likely willing to give him top line minutes and 1st pp.

As far as the draft, I think this is where Feaster sets out to distinguish himself from Sutter, though I personally like the idea of trading down if we're sure we can still get the player we want reagrdless.

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