Anton Babchuk Update

Kent Wilson
July 04 2011 10:46AM

 

 

According to agent Jay Grossman, Anton Babchuk is near to signing a two-yer deal with the Calgary Flames.

I've made my feelings on Babchuk pretty clear in the past. His lone noteworthy skill is his big shoot, which is pretty useful whenever he's in the offensive zone. He's a fairly limited player otherwise, however, and will have to be actively sheltered much the same way he was last year in order to be truly effective. He has never played in a top-four role in the NHL, so the goal should be avoid paying him like a top-four defender.

More analysis when things are made official.

UPDATE - Twitter reports are trickling in indicating the deal has been signed. Still waiting on terms.

UPDATE II - Flames have announced the official terms as $2.5M per year for two years. We'll cover this signing more completely as the week moves along.

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#101 Feasterisfatandretarded
July 04 2011, 10:11PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Barker is terrible.

My office doesn't want to renew our season seats we have held for 8 seasons because clients don't want to watch you pathetic team play anymore. You'd never find that horse crap in Edmonton.

I just feel bad for you. Hope conroy's son doesn't look too much like phaeuf!!!

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#102 Edmontonawesome
July 04 2011, 10:12PM
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Do you guys have a rookie camp?

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#103 Sythhatescalgary
July 04 2011, 10:15PM
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Hey how did pursuing smith work out for you?

I love his comments on ched

"I would never want to be a flame. I found it odd that jarome called me twice to try and convince me"

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#104 Canucks Suck
July 04 2011, 10:29PM
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What is with the huge influx of retarded oiler fans?

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#105 MC Hockey
July 04 2011, 10:40PM
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Canucks Suck wrote:

What is with the huge influx of retarded oiler fans?

Nothing better to do than get on here, say nothing of value, and lie about their jobs

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#106 rain dogs
July 04 2011, 11:24PM
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@CitizenFlame

I have no problem with Reggie being moved, as long as the return is reflected in trade return. Tacking the 2nd on pretty much killed that, and Regehr was such good contract value.

I also don't have a problem with Babchuk being re-signed, but being paid 2.5 million for a third pairing guy isn't financially sensible.

Third pairing guys shouldn't be making more than 1-1.5million or a combined 3 million together. The cap is 64mil/22 (13,7,2)= 2.9million per player. Your top two line should be above and bottom two below... same with d. Same with goalies.

If you're paying a 5th/6th man 2.5million, you're taking away from your top players. Unless they have plans to play Babchuk and Sarich in 3/4 which would be an unmitigated disaster.

None of this has anything to do with Butler... it has to do with our poor handling of assets and our poor signings.

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#107 FireOnIce
July 05 2011, 12:02AM
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The largest problem I have with the Regehr trade is that we had to include a 2nd round pick - without this pick, we are unable to tender certain RFAs an adequate offer sheet. We should have thrown in a third or fourth rounder.

Regarding Babchuk, term is decent, money is meh. He got overpaid somewhat. But at least we didn't re-sign Ian White at the $2.75M or whatever he got, and at least we didn't sign Ehrhoff or Souray.

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#108 Dr. Nick
July 05 2011, 12:13AM
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I love when Oiler fans bash the Flames. Every argument on why the Oilers rule is because of their young up and coming prospects... blah blah blah. If only the Flames read the Oilers guide to success, I think it goes something like this...

Step 1) Don't try to win.

Step 2) Finish dead last.

Step 3) Trade players for draft picks and prospects.

Step 4) Get Top 5 draft pick.

Step 5) Pray for luck.

Step 6) Rinse and Repeat until it's time to gloat.

By the way Oiler Fans, here is a little trivia tid bit for you..... the Calgary Flames have never finished last in the NHL, even as the Atlanta Flames.

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#109 Reidja
July 05 2011, 12:51AM
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Sythhatescalgary wrote:

Hey how did pursuing smith work out for you?

I love his comments on ched

"I would never want to be a flame. I found it odd that jarome called me twice to try and convince me"

Got to give it to you, how you are able to translate Smyth's grunts and gestures is something absolutely familial.

On Babs, I'd like to see how he progressed throughout last season because I recall him getting more PK time and harder comp toward the end (admittedly, I have no numbers to back this up). I also recall Sutter talking about Babs having a desire to learn defence that I'm encouraged by. I'm willing to bet that this signing is a confirmation that Sutter believes he will grow into a more well rounded player.

Having said all that, I'm still not sure who'll play 3/4. Maybe: Gio-Bo Bo-Gio Babchuk-Somedude

(had to add in a line combo because everyone loves those in July right?)

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#110 Captain Ron
July 05 2011, 01:24AM
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What is with the huge influx of retarded oiler fans?

School is out and they're bored up there now.

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#111 Rude
July 05 2011, 03:50AM
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Babchuck, as limited as he is ended up being one of the most useful D-Man on the UFA market. Plenty of teams could use that rocket shot on the PP. Still not worth 2 years or 2.5mill

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#112 44stampede
July 05 2011, 03:55AM
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A few random thoughts:

I think the Babs contract could have been better but overall I like the "non-deals" thus far. I am not expecting too much out of this team this year and better to not handcuff us for years to come with stupid contracts.

I still am baffled by the Erhoff contract. To me that is the worst of the bad ones dolled out in the past few days.

Unless we can pull a Burke and get some decent players (top six or top 3,4 D) from a team looking to dump salary we are pretty much hooped for next year. I may have missed something but TO seemed to have really won that one. I realize that Lombardi is injured but even if he doesn't suit up he will not count against the cap. Franson seems like the real deal (though I am not sure of his advanced stats).

Based on some of the contracts out there now you have to believe that there may now be a market for Stajan or Hags? Even if it's for a crappy pick. Someone willing to take a chance perhaps. There are worse options out there for sure.

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#113 negrilcowboy
July 05 2011, 07:01AM
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makes you wonder, why the flames traded rags and a second when it appears that feaster had options. pardy versus badchuk. i think feastmeister had a man crush on the ukrainian trainwreck.capable of 50 points, ha.

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#114 Flipnip
July 05 2011, 07:04AM
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I wasn't trying to disrespect Giordano as he has been a consistent player both offensively and defensively for the Flames. I was only trying to say that I think that Babchuk is improving and has some great qualities that the Flames really need. I like this defense core, as it may be a little more mobile rather than looking to just pound the opposition. It's what we have so we might as well be positive.

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#115 Colin
July 05 2011, 09:14AM
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@44stampede

Franson played pretty much the same role as what Babchuk did for us. Everyone in the Toronto Media says that Burke just picked up a LEGIT top 4 d-man, but Franson has NEVER been a top 4 d-man, he was used on the 3rd pairing exclusively and had less minutes at 5on5 than Shane O Brien, that in and of itself is VERY telling of what Trotz thought of his defensive abilities. Toronto may have very well picked up a defensively WORSE player than Babchuk and they are both offensively similar, though Franson should have a higher ceiling offensively because he's younger.

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#116 44stampede
July 05 2011, 06:58PM
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Colin wrote:

Franson played pretty much the same role as what Babchuk did for us. Everyone in the Toronto Media says that Burke just picked up a LEGIT top 4 d-man, but Franson has NEVER been a top 4 d-man, he was used on the 3rd pairing exclusively and had less minutes at 5on5 than Shane O Brien, that in and of itself is VERY telling of what Trotz thought of his defensive abilities. Toronto may have very well picked up a defensively WORSE player than Babchuk and they are both offensively similar, though Franson should have a higher ceiling offensively because he's younger.

Good to know.

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