Postgame: Come On, Man

Justin Azevedo
March 24 2012 03:30PM

 

 

Only the most hardcore optimists can see the Flames making the playoffs now, as they drop a 4-1 decision to Dallas this afternoon. A game mostly controlled by the Flames, they weren’t able to get the luck they have depended on for the majority of the season today.

The Recap

The game got off to a rough start as Jamie Benn buried his 23rd of the season less then two minutes into the game. The highly annoying Adam Burish facilitated the goal with a pretty nice pass from behind the net. Dallas would strike again at 12:43 with Michael Ryder continuing his excellent season; getting his 33rd of the year. Calgary would pull within one when Anton Babchuk somehow threaded the needle directly to Mike Cammalleri, who then proceeded to go all retro Squid and put the one-knee one-timer right into the back of the net. Shots in the period were 7-8 for Dallas. Chances were similarly spaced out, with the Stars winning the battle 5-6.

A nice save by Miikka Kiprusoff around 9:30 capped off a rather uneventful first half of the middle frame. The second half wasn’t any different, but a little excitement was caused by perimeter shots turning into scrambles in front of each net. There was a bit of violence at the end of the period, originating after a bit of Olli Jokinen-Sheldon Souray jostling. Shots in the period were dominated by the Flames, coming up 14-6 while chances were 4-3 in favour of the good guys.

The Flames started the third on a power play, but weren’t able to convert it into anything tangible. Give credit to the Flames, though, as around the 15 minute mark they really started to push the issue-a couple of great flurries in the next 3 minutes produced many “oohs” and “ahhs” at Shanks South, but resulted in nothing scoreboard-wise. Of course, even though the Flames were the ones driving play the entire third period, they were victimized for two goals in the final five minutes to basically eliminate them from playoff contention for the third year in a row.

The Stars

1.Kari Lehtonen

2.Mike Cammalleri

3.Jamie Benn

The Final

I just don’t see any realistic way that the Flames can make the playoffs based on both their schedule and their play of late. It’s seriously done.

I know Scott Hannan will get a lot of crap for the third goal, but the way I saw it on the big screen was a little different then the public perception-Hannan was going behind the net to cut off a reverse to the other side. As Benn was streaking in, the centerman should have realized what Hannan was doing and covered Benn. Of course, all of this could have been prevented with a proper change.

But yeah, that noise you hear in the distance is the Fat Lady’s train rolling into town. The Flames play next on Monday, when Dallas follows them back home. Gametime is 7 PM Mountain on Sportsnet and ye olde radio.

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Justin is a 23-year-old Flames fan who also happens to be pursuing a double major at the University of Calgary. He has played hockey at high levels, enjoys wearing shorts and tends to drink far too much Grasshopper. Please don't hate him.
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#1 One Cold Canadian
March 24 2012, 05:19PM
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Storied franchise? Wait, what?

The Tampa Bay Lightning... The Carolina Hurricanes....

They have as many cups as you do...does that make them a storied franchise?

Guess the devils must be a team for the ages... They have twice as many cups.

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#2 Shaner
March 24 2012, 04:16PM
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What's the difference between Calgary and Edmonton the last 3 seasons? Absolutely nothing we have both missed the playoffs.except for the fact etowns in a rebuild and were top heavy on diarhea talent and NTC's, besides Edmonton getting two #1's and a sure fire lottery pick this along with huge hope for the future.......what the hell are we doing?

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#3 One Cold Canadian
March 24 2012, 04:50PM
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My favorite time of year. The crying from down south is music to my ears.

Now if somebody will take out the second Sedin sister, I'll gladly wait for training camp!

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#4 coptin_
March 24 2012, 05:59PM
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what about MURRAY EDWARDS e mail ,he is the one that needs a dose of reality. we need a knowledgable,respected person at the top not a newspaper salesman.it would also help if the rights holders (fan 960)would let there people speek the truth instead of blowing smoke up the asses of the flames org.

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#5 FireOnIce
March 24 2012, 07:31PM
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@NateBaldwin

I agree. But knowing the Flames, they'll win every single game knowing that "the pressure is off".

That's how they rolled in the 90s. Terrible all season, bench-clearing brawls, 11th or 12th place, and once the Flames were mathematically eliminated, they'd go on a winning spree.

"We just want to play the spoiler, now that the pressure is off we're just playing hockey"

Total BS. Play like that the rest of the season and you might have something to write home about.

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#6 Mitch2
March 24 2012, 08:02PM
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Dangerous Neil wrote:

Good time to be an Oilers fan.

With three young superstars in the line-up and finishing bottom 2 you guys may want to consider blowing it up and starting over.

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#8 RKD
March 25 2012, 12:55PM
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Same old song and dance. How many times have we heard from the Flames, "we've got to run the table now."

Too bad a solid season by Kipper is going to get wasted. I would be floored if the Flames went 6-0 and got in. I just don't see it. Two weeks ago their chances at making it were as high as 51%, now down to a paltry 7%.

This team was below .500 even before Moss and the others went down. Always starting the season slow, playing really strong in Jan. and Feb. only to stumble in March and miss.

Replace King with Nicholson, give Feaster or whomever total autonomy. They didn't win a Cup with their core of Iggy, Kipper, Regehr. Reg is gone, Iggy and Kipper are now 8 years older.

Time to start building this team around Baertschi, Brodie, Irving, and whoever else is NHL ready. If you want to keep Kipper and Iggy, fine but start transitioning them into supporter roles, not starter roles.

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#9 Dave
March 25 2012, 05:35PM
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@PrairieStew

I don't have any stats, or evidence to prove my point but I do not like Mike Green as a hockey player. I think he is overrated and a defensive liability.

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#10 Chirp26
March 24 2012, 03:59PM
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If the idea is, ‘Burn it to the ground,’ then (Flames president) Ken (King) can find another manager to do it.” said the Calgary Flames general manager back in September.

So Jay may get his wish

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#11 Ravage
March 24 2012, 04:01PM
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6 games remaining and even if they won them, we'd be at 95 points and would need to rely on the others in contention to receive a large dose of bad luck.

For those that think Iggy, Kipper, JBo and Gio are still a good core to build around, ownership believes this as well and we will see a tweaking of the supporting cast again...as we have since 2004 (more or less).

For those that think it's time for Iggy, Kipper et al to be shopped around and see if the team can benefit from some trades...don't hold your breath. Ownership doesn't want it's marketable stars moved out for unknown commodities. that's just the way it is and for those that are upset with that, keep in mind this team already went that route in the late 90's...it was a bust. I'm not saying I agree with this plan...but until the masses rise up and somehow make their voices heard (i.e. boycott some games), ownership will maintain the status quo.

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#12 One Cold Canadian
March 24 2012, 04:30PM
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And now you can look forward to a second half of the first round pick!!

Bet the free agents are gonna line up hard for the 18 bucks you have in cap space..

And for the record, that train? PLUM FULL!!!!!

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#13 Dangerous Neil
March 24 2012, 04:33PM
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Good time to be an Oilers fan.

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#14 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
March 24 2012, 04:44PM
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Lol, that picture could be a great cover for a gay porno.

Oh yeah, it also sums up our last couple of seasons nicely.

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#15 John Deere Green
March 24 2012, 04:57PM
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Anyone have Ken King's e-mail address? I would like to point out a few obvious things to him. Not that he gives a sh!t what I think but maybe if enough people can let him know what they truthfully think about his storied franchise, then maybe, just maybe, he'll start to realize that this team is not very good at all.

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#16 Bruins
March 24 2012, 05:08PM
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@John Deere Green

king is only interested in season ticket renewals....

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#18 VK63
March 24 2012, 05:28PM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

kking@calgaryflames.com

Im with DomeBeers on the continued employment of KKing@calgaryflames.com

That would be a very well placed pink slip right fn there.

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#19 Franko J
March 24 2012, 06:15PM
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Iginla may have been the face of this franchise for the past decade. But, next season, win or lose I'm looking forward to Sven. Iginla had his chance to lead this team to glory, now it is time to pass the torch to someone else.

In life, as in hockey change is inevitable and necessary. It is time for the Flames to change philosophy and culture. Although Feasters' record as GM is spotty at best, however, maybe next season the Flames can experience what the Oilers have for the past three seasons. Maybe the Flames can draft that elusive # 1 center.

I'm willing to watch some tough games of hockey over the next few seasons, however, it cannot be any worse than the on-ice product this year.

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#20 everton fc
March 24 2012, 06:17PM
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One Cold Canadian wrote:

Storied franchise? Wait, what?

The Tampa Bay Lightning... The Carolina Hurricanes....

They have as many cups as you do...does that make them a storied franchise?

Guess the devils must be a team for the ages... They have twice as many cups.

Hate to say this... as a Flames fan... But the comment above may have some merit the past 20 years...

The only good news of the day:

Everton 2 Swansea 0

Can anyone tell me why we should keep our current GM? Did he not boldly predict "playoffs" for this ensemble of also-rans? The GM must have had some opportunity to make some moves... I find it hard to believe King would tie Feaster's hands completely.

I think Feaster wanted to keep Jarome and Kipper. Maybe he still does. He signed Babchuk. He made no significant moves at the deadline for the second consecutive year...

I better stop now before I ruin my evening w/the wife and kids...

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#21 John Deere Green
March 24 2012, 06:51PM
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coptin_ wrote:

what about MURRAY EDWARDS e mail ,he is the one that needs a dose of reality. we need a knowledgable,respected person at the top not a newspaper salesman.it would also help if the rights holders (fan 960)would let there people speek the truth instead of blowing smoke up the asses of the flames org.

Thank-you. For awhile now I've been tempted to write this about the Fan 960 but thought I would catch hell on here. The whole Flames organization as well as the Fan 960 have got ten of thousands of fans snowballed into believeing that this club can actually do some damage in the playoffs. Well, as we see now, that's pretty hard when you don't even make the playoffs isn't it? I am of firm belief that this club is in shambles right now, and unless there is some substantial changes made this summer, this club isn't going to the playoffs for few more years yet.

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#22 NateBaldwin
March 24 2012, 06:58PM
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Here's hoping we flame out completely over the last 6. Might as well maximize the draft pick we're going to get.

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#23 Mitch2
March 24 2012, 08:06PM
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@One Cold Canadian

In fairness winning a Cup is not small matter ask the Blues, Sabres, Canucks, Kings - these franchises have been around forever and never managed it.

You can try and down play the significance of winning one but really you shouldn't. The fact that some franchises got Cups so fast like the Ducks, Canes and Bolts doesn't put any taint on the Cup too me.

Even if their fan bases don't get how special it is.

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#24 KetchupKid
March 24 2012, 08:42PM
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Chirp26 wrote:

If the idea is, ‘Burn it to the ground,’ then (Flames president) Ken (King) can find another manager to do it.” said the Calgary Flames general manager back in September.

So Jay may get his wish

There's the real optimist.

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#25 Bilman
March 24 2012, 09:26PM
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@Shaner

The difference is that Edmonton hasn't played a meaningful game post christmas in 3 years. I'm not happy about Calgary not making the playoffs, but at least we've had a reason to turn the TV on in Jan - March

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#26 One Cold Canadian
March 24 2012, 09:35PM
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M, Calgary's one cup has no taint on it.

Seeing Lanny hoist that over his head was fitting.

But to say that the flames are a storied franchise is in the area of silk purse and sows ear.

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#27 John Deere Green
March 24 2012, 10:03PM
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One Cold Canadian wrote:

M, Calgary's one cup has no taint on it.

Seeing Lanny hoist that over his head was fitting.

But to say that the flames are a storied franchise is in the area of silk purse and sows ear.

When I wrote "his storied franchise", it was meant to be a joke. You know like ha,ha, funny stuff, poking fun at Ken King's hockey club? Maybe all you Oilers fan's have lost your sense of humor since your team has been out of the playoffs at Christmas for three years running. Lighten up. It's hockey, we're not trying to find a cure for cancer.

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#28 One Cold Canadian
March 24 2012, 10:26PM
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Oh.. A joke?? Kinda like the contract we gave Horcoff??

Yes, I understand jokes.

Wanna hear a real funny one?

How about handing NTC contracts to players that can't help your team? How about handcuffing your team with said contracts for the next few years?

I know my team has sucked for awhile..

Bow up and get ready....it's coming.

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#29 Captain Ron
March 24 2012, 11:09PM
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John Deere Green wrote:

When I wrote "his storied franchise", it was meant to be a joke. You know like ha,ha, funny stuff, poking fun at Ken King's hockey club? Maybe all you Oilers fan's have lost your sense of humor since your team has been out of the playoffs at Christmas for three years running. Lighten up. It's hockey, we're not trying to find a cure for cancer.

Hey JDG I'm really starting to like you. Especially your 82 AMC Pacer comparison he other day. If this team is that Pacer then even the 496 Big Block out of my 70 Chevelle probably still couldn't get them into the playoffs.

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#30 drdoogie
March 24 2012, 11:10PM
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you know, I cannot support the Flames record the past few years as they do appear a team not qualified to challenge the upper echelon teams in the league. But those posters claiming they should blow it up or follow a last place teams blueprint are a bit misguided. Stay the course, inject more youth and start the transition using savvy trades and young talent to augment some quality veterans (last time I checked Iggy, Kipper and Cammy are pretty decent players). I will take a playoff contender over organizations 20 years past their best before date (see Leafs,Oilers)We will see where this team is in 3 years but panic is not the order of the day.

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#31 petemaherrocks
March 24 2012, 11:15PM
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1."every game matters" was bulls###!

2. Feaster deserves this offseason to make good on his comments/promises.

3. question for coiler fans: whats your clubs plan for next season? playoffs? 27th place?

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#32 DieHard
March 25 2012, 12:08AM
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petemaherrocks wrote:

1."every game matters" was bulls###!

2. Feaster deserves this offseason to make good on his comments/promises.

3. question for coiler fans: whats your clubs plan for next season? playoffs? 27th place?

Well, since you asked, I believe an incremental progression for next year would be to finish ahead of the Flames followed by playoffs for centuries after that.

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#33 Ravage
March 25 2012, 12:34AM
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@ coptin and John Deere Greene

I admit the staff at SN960 can sometimes overdue it at trying to sell the team to the listener. But they are the rights holders only as long as the Flames let them be. So if SN960 was to lose those broadcasting rights...where does it leave them? Essentially they have to tow the company line and watch what they say. And if you've been listening to any of them you guys would know they have been quite critical about aspects of this team...but they have to be very careful how things are worded.

So cut them a little slack, they aren't publicly allowed to be so blunt as we are. And as for Mr. Edwards, as was already pointed out, as long as season tickets are renewed and the money is rolling in he and the rest of his ilk are happy with the way things are.

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#34 RexLibris
March 25 2012, 01:41AM
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The last time I saw this much anger on FN was around the time of the Phaneuf trade.

Is this the only place where that is being expressed or are the Flames being torn apart in the papers as well (I haven't had time to read any of them online lately)?

From the sounds of it the radio is a safe place for them.

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#35 SmellOfVictory
March 25 2012, 03:57AM
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One Cold Canadian wrote:

Storied franchise? Wait, what?

The Tampa Bay Lightning... The Carolina Hurricanes....

They have as many cups as you do...does that make them a storied franchise?

Guess the devils must be a team for the ages... They have twice as many cups.

The Lightning and Hurricanes cups were both flash-in-the-pan situations. The Flames were the second best team of the late 80s-early 90s. Literally the only reason they don't have 3+ cups is because of the Oilers.

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#36 nice try
March 25 2012, 05:14AM
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@SmellOfVictory

you've got to win them to claim them.

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#37 One Cold Canadian
March 25 2012, 06:24AM
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So, by your logic..

The Flames have won a cup and ALMOST four??

Following this completely reasonable line of thinking:

Hitler almost became the leader of the UNfree world. I almost invented a jet pack made from beer boxes and popsicle sticks. My dog almost learned to perform brain surgery despite the lack of opposable thumbs.

Yes... Completely reasonable.....

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#38 John Deere Green
March 25 2012, 08:21AM
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Ravage wrote:

@ coptin and John Deere Greene

I admit the staff at SN960 can sometimes overdue it at trying to sell the team to the listener. But they are the rights holders only as long as the Flames let them be. So if SN960 was to lose those broadcasting rights...where does it leave them? Essentially they have to tow the company line and watch what they say. And if you've been listening to any of them you guys would know they have been quite critical about aspects of this team...but they have to be very careful how things are worded.

So cut them a little slack, they aren't publicly allowed to be so blunt as we are. And as for Mr. Edwards, as was already pointed out, as long as season tickets are renewed and the money is rolling in he and the rest of his ilk are happy with the way things are.

I agree that as rightholders that they (960) can only say so much. Found it interesting that Pat was fairly tough on Brent Sutter yesterday on overtime, but was kind of lovey-dovey with Ken King if callers mentioned anything about getting rid of the Prez. Maybe P Stein knows something that us general public does not? I think it's a forgone conclusion that Brent won't be back however.

I guess I am a little critical of the Fan 960 because as a loyal listener since day 1, I feel their quality of program hasn't just gone south, but fell off the map all together (I know, not the place for a radio comment).

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#39 John Deere Green
March 25 2012, 08:25AM
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@ Captain Ron

496 you say eh? Sounds mean. In a chevelle too? Probably has some balls. Unlike the Flames team.

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#40 Walter Sobchak
March 25 2012, 08:26AM
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My intent here is not to insult anyone, just trying to empathize with most and offer my opinion.

I don’t understand the relevance in both Oiler fans and Flames fans trying to compare the past? Just doesn’t seem really that important or relevant, especially now.

Does it also really matter that you almost made the playoffs? Or your team finishes dead last? To me it doesn’t matter, both teams are non-playoff teams.

I, as a fan, have been down this road with the Oilers to many times to count trying to make the playoffs,only to do nothing in the playoffs once they got there or nopt make them all together! that got old fast!. To me the only logical thing to do would be for the Flames to burn it to the ground and start over. I’ll admit I’m not educated enough on the Flames roster to know who has NTC or NMC and how it will effect a total rebuild but, the only advise I can offer if the Flames go this route is to be patient, enjoy the experience of watching young talented players develop.

To me it make’s more sense for the Flames to break it all down this summer. Ice a brutal team next season and go after Nathan MacKinnon.

PS: I still hate the Flames.

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#41 Dave
March 25 2012, 08:46AM
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At the start of the year this is about where I predicted the flames would end up. The reality is that if you even look at the teams playing for the 7th and 8th playoff spot they are heads and tails more talented than the flames. Dallas, SJ, LA, Pheonix, and Colorado all have a lot more skill than the flames.

One thing I've noticed throughout the last couple of years with the flames is that it seems like most of their goals come from goalies making mistakes, or from broken plays (2 on 1's, bad turnovers, lucky bounces, etc). I will gladly take those goals and that's part of hockey but I don't see goals that are being manufactured by the offensive scheme very often. To me that's a HUGE problem. That's why they get in huge goal scoring droughts. As soon as the lucky bounces stop (which they inevitably do at some point) or the goalies get their game back the flames are incabable of scoring.

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#42 Dave
March 25 2012, 09:02AM
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On a seperate note, So for Sven is playing well in the playoffs for Portland.

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#43 RexLibris
March 25 2012, 09:28AM
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@Justin Azevedo

Unless of course we are referring to William Patrick Hitler of Dublin, circa 1938. That man was a beast at darts.

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#44 Kevin R
March 25 2012, 11:37AM
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Dave wrote:

At the start of the year this is about where I predicted the flames would end up. The reality is that if you even look at the teams playing for the 7th and 8th playoff spot they are heads and tails more talented than the flames. Dallas, SJ, LA, Pheonix, and Colorado all have a lot more skill than the flames.

One thing I've noticed throughout the last couple of years with the flames is that it seems like most of their goals come from goalies making mistakes, or from broken plays (2 on 1's, bad turnovers, lucky bounces, etc). I will gladly take those goals and that's part of hockey but I don't see goals that are being manufactured by the offensive scheme very often. To me that's a HUGE problem. That's why they get in huge goal scoring droughts. As soon as the lucky bounces stop (which they inevitably do at some point) or the goalies get their game back the flames are incabable of scoring.

On the money buddy. I dont know too many Hockey sites, experts or even Flames fans that figured this team would be a playoff bound team for many many reasons. We simply over achieved, Kipper, most of the kids that came up, some good luck. many of us thought we would have been out before the trade deadline & as of March 24th we still have a mathematical chance, March 15th, we were looking pretty friggin good with our schedule. The clock struck 12:00 & now the carriage turned into a pumpkin. We are exactly where most of us thought we would be the only thing is some of us hoped we could have sucked sooner so we would have gotten a better draft pick. Oh well. The crossroads are coming up real soon at this next draft letssee what Management does and handles from the obvious landscape.

Oiler fans that claim our NTC & NMC's stop us from doing anything is wrong. If a team wants to move the player & tells him that, that player will waive, it may restrict some of the deals that can be made, thats about it. I think after a 3rd year out & the hype & criticism that is coming from a 3rd consecutive failure will even get Iggy thinking about playing in greener pastures.

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#45 TravisSengaus
March 25 2012, 01:39PM
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coptin_ wrote:

what about MURRAY EDWARDS e mail ,he is the one that needs a dose of reality. we need a knowledgable,respected person at the top not a newspaper salesman.it would also help if the rights holders (fan 960)would let there people speek the truth instead of blowing smoke up the asses of the flames org.

Oh my God thank you for saying it!!! The Fan comes off as just a shill for the Flames now

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#46 PrairieStew
March 25 2012, 02:43PM
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RKD wrote:

Same old song and dance. How many times have we heard from the Flames, "we've got to run the table now."

Too bad a solid season by Kipper is going to get wasted. I would be floored if the Flames went 6-0 and got in. I just don't see it. Two weeks ago their chances at making it were as high as 51%, now down to a paltry 7%.

This team was below .500 even before Moss and the others went down. Always starting the season slow, playing really strong in Jan. and Feb. only to stumble in March and miss.

Replace King with Nicholson, give Feaster or whomever total autonomy. They didn't win a Cup with their core of Iggy, Kipper, Regehr. Reg is gone, Iggy and Kipper are now 8 years older.

Time to start building this team around Baertschi, Brodie, Irving, and whoever else is NHL ready. If you want to keep Kipper and Iggy, fine but start transitioning them into supporter roles, not starter roles.

It is frustrating that the offense is the problem this year, and last year Kipper was less than stellar while the offense was fine, and that this is at least the second or maybe 3rd time this 2 year cycle has repeated. If both had gone in to the tank in any one of the last 4 years you might have seen the teardown and rebuild, plus a higher pick.

Because it appears that Irving is ready to be at least average, and if Ramo is ready to try the NHL again, then Kiprusoff could be the only one of the "core" traded in the offeseason.

I would be calling Washington, and I'd be asking for Mike Green. This team needs to generate more offense and they need some right shooting defensemen. Despite his iron man streak and big minutes, I'd be willing to move Bouwmeester as well. With Gio, Brodie, Smith I'd be comfortable with those guys as my left side guys, plus Connelly and Wilson as callups.

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#47 coptin_
March 25 2012, 06:36PM
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@ john deer greene

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#48 suba steve
March 25 2012, 06:54PM
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Dave wrote:

I don't have any stats, or evidence to prove my point but I do not like Mike Green as a hockey player. I think he is overrated and a defensive liability.

I agree, I would target others from Washington as well.

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#49 Get The Puck Outta Here
March 25 2012, 08:24PM
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I got an idea.

Hopefully Flame management resigns ALL the same free agents, and re ups the coach in the golf season and we can all meet back here, same time, same place, next year and watch this circus roll into town one more time.

O and Jay, if I buy something at Home Depot that has a guarentee and its broken I get my money back. No playoffs again this year Jay. Money back please.

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#50 the-wolf
March 26 2012, 07:09AM
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PrairieStew wrote:

It is frustrating that the offense is the problem this year, and last year Kipper was less than stellar while the offense was fine, and that this is at least the second or maybe 3rd time this 2 year cycle has repeated. If both had gone in to the tank in any one of the last 4 years you might have seen the teardown and rebuild, plus a higher pick.

Because it appears that Irving is ready to be at least average, and if Ramo is ready to try the NHL again, then Kiprusoff could be the only one of the "core" traded in the offeseason.

I would be calling Washington, and I'd be asking for Mike Green. This team needs to generate more offense and they need some right shooting defensemen. Despite his iron man streak and big minutes, I'd be willing to move Bouwmeester as well. With Gio, Brodie, Smith I'd be comfortable with those guys as my left side guys, plus Connelly and Wilson as callups.

Someone on here once noted that Calgary switching between being good offensively and defensivley year-to-year isn't so much happenstance as it is that the team can only do one of those things at the expense of the other things.

Unless they do something huge, I agree that this team will do nothing of consequence this summer. One more year of trying to scratch into the final playoff spot and then I predict the team falls off the map completely for the 2012-2014 season.

@JDG re: the Fan960 - agreed. Never thought I'd miss Rob Kerr so much on the afternoon show. I swear those "call-ins" are pre-screened too.

It's the MSM in general in this town. There's a hundred tough questions that could be demanded of ownership or, since they won't do interviews, their hatchet man King. But it's 99% PR spin.

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