Sweet Schadenfreude - Erixon Dealt to Columbus

Kent Wilson
July 23 2012 01:11PM

 

 

The big news today is the Rick Nash to New Tork Rangers trade. The pleasing part of the deal for Flames fans is the fact that Tim Erixon was apparently included (if early reports are to be believed).

Erixon famously rebuffed Calgary last summer, refusing to sign a contract in order to leverage a trade to New York. His public position was that he didn't feel the Flames offered him a viable chance to crack the line-up as a rookie. The underlying assumption was he wanted to play in the market where his father made a mark as an NHLer. If memory serves, the kid told Swedish newspapers afterwards that playing in New York was his dream.

Fast forward one year and Erixon is coming off a season where he spent most of the time in the minors. And now, he has been dealt to probably the worst team in the league by the very club he idolized.

In principle, I'm not against players using what leverage they have to improve their circumstances and such, but there's a certain degree of karmic justice in Erixon squeezing the Flames, only to spend his time in the AHL and them become a Blue Jacket just one year later.

Fare thee well Tim. At this point, I think it's safe to say you would have been better off staying put.

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#1 DangleSnipeCelly
July 23 2012, 01:18PM
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That's a junk return if you ask me... Columbus loses again... Enjoy your new digs Mr. Erixon. Good news is you'll probably get more ice time with the big club. Bad news is you stink and so do all your new mates. Looks good on you...

Hopefully this opens up the trade market a bit...

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#2 Resolute
July 23 2012, 01:19PM
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Bonus: We get to boo him twice a year now instead of once every two!

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#4 Bean-counting cowboy
July 23 2012, 01:25PM
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Funny thing is, Columbus considers their defense to be their position of strength. With signing Aucoin & acquring Jack Johnson & Wisnewski, I don't think Erixon makes the team much easier than NYR as has been suggested.

Further reason for Flames fans to gloat.

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#5 the-wolf
July 23 2012, 01:26PM
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I don’t think CBJ did very well at all. 2 guys who are mediocre second line options, an unproven d-man and a late 1st rounder. Ugh. Better to have done a one-for-one and gotten Del Zotto.

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#6 Justin Azevedo
July 23 2012, 01:26PM
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hahahahahahahahahahahaha

haha

hahahaahahaahhahahahhahahahahahaa

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#7 Bean-counting cowboy
July 23 2012, 01:27PM
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I also think Columbus got decent return considering how everyone knew Nash wanted out, the cap hit/years & how overpaid he is.

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#8 MC Hockey
July 23 2012, 01:30PM
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I second what my venerable friends Kent, Justin, and of course Nelson Muntz (from The Simpsons) say. Booyah

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#9 suba steve
July 23 2012, 01:32PM
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Thank you Glen Sather. Me so happy! Two letters for Tim. F and U.

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#10 Resolute
July 23 2012, 01:36PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I actually don't think the return is as bad as others do - certainly kills Howson's terrible Jeff Carter deal.

I'm on the fence on that one. If Carter was a strikeout, then this might be a bunt single... which certainly is better, but that doesn't say much.

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#11 Colin
July 23 2012, 01:39PM
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LMAO, I think this return is even worse than apparently what he was gonna get at the deadline, so Scott Howson = Worst GM of the league right? Or does that go to Garth "people want to arbitrate their NTC" Snow.

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#12 Parallex
July 23 2012, 01:43PM
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@suba steve

One should never thank Glen Sather... if you're a hipster not even ironically.

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The deal. I love me some Dubinsky so I don't think Columbas did all that badly. Nash is better then everyone they got back so they lose the deal in that sense but he has a pretty poor contract and a lot of people overvalue him. They didn't get a "Superstar" worthy return but I don't think that's so bad since I think Nash is a borderline superstar at best. I really think the problem is one of perception more then anything else.

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#13 Mangotanker
July 23 2012, 01:44PM
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Take that Erixon. Enjoy playing with uh........ umm...... Ryan Murray?

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#14 Scott
July 23 2012, 01:46PM
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I think Columbus did pretty well considering, atleast they shipped out a one dimensional player that didn't control possession for some more well rounded players.

Given the situation I'd be happy with that trade. I do wonder what self-imposed salary cap restrictions played in this trade for Columbus as well.

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#15 kittensandcookies
July 23 2012, 01:46PM
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Dubinsky is good. The rest is meh.

If that is what a 28 year old #1 forward gets you, we might get a used Ford Flex for Iginla.

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#16 Baalzamon
July 23 2012, 01:48PM
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are you guys mad? Columbus didn't do badly in that deal at all! Dubinsky and Anisimov are decent players (particularly Dubinsky) and whatever you think of Erixon, he's a good prospect.

also, Johnson and Wisniewski suck, so if Erixon doesn't play in the NHL next season, I'll be laughing for about the next three decades.

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#17 Shredder
July 23 2012, 02:08PM
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...oh yeah, and Ryan Murray will show Erixon how to play defense in camp, and bump him to the minors for another year...at least he won't have to play for the worst defense/goaltending in the league with no offense to boot.

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#18 Dr. Nick
July 23 2012, 02:12PM
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I think Columbus got all they were going to get from a trade with Rick Nash. In the end the Blue Jackets got 3 players without no trade clauses, a late first round pick and they got rid of the burden that is Nash's contract. I am sure different offers were out there, maybe some that were better, but unfortunately that list that Rick Nash gave kinda killed any trade market that was out there. I wish the next CBA would get rid of no-trade clauses, because if the NHL wants to add excitement to the game, being able to trade a player without their permission would definitely do that. Imagine a trade deadline where significant trades actually happen.

As for little Tim Erixon I hope he enjoyed the 18 games he played in New York because living in the Blue Jacket basement suite is gonna suck.

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#19 Q
July 23 2012, 02:15PM
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Sooooooo freakn hilarious! Eriksson can suck on that! Sweet karma!

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#20 the-wolf
July 23 2012, 02:18PM
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@dr. nick - agree 100%, NTC are one of the worst things to happen.

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#21 Devin
July 23 2012, 02:36PM
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In theory, NTCs are fine. They won't go away because players seeking stability and control will demand them, so they NHLPA will too. The issue I have with them is that a player can demand a trade but then dictate which teams he is to be traded to. A NTC should be something that you can waive and it's gone, but if you don't waive it, no trade talks are allowed.

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#22 xis10ce
July 23 2012, 02:49PM
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be one of the cool kids, keep the trend going, tweet #suckiterixon ;)

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#23 RexLibris
July 23 2012, 02:50PM
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While I'm not trying to rain on this celebratory schadenfreude, if Erixon is such a bad player...what does that say about the Flames drafting and development depth when he was their top prospect last June?

As for the deal, there was no way that Howson was going to "win" it. Nash is good, but probably slightly overpaid relative to performance. His cap hit reflects his standing in the organization and community. When that factor is removed from the equation, the salary looks out of place with the production. This does have some small bearing on Iginla, but that's a discussion for another day.

Anisimov could be an entertaining player to watch, in a "wait for the soap-opera to start" kind of way. Columbus is to Russian players what Philadelphia is to goaltenders.

Dubinsky is a good deal. The Oilers have reportedly had interest in him for a long time, so his moving to Columbus, with Howson's history of trading with Edmonton could be an advantage for those two teams.

Columbus also has three, I think, first round picks in 2013 now. L.A.'s, their own, and the Rangers. In a deep year, if they can scout the field properly (after hiring some new scouting staff, of course), it could be a good boost to the organization. It also gives them something to trade if they want to make more immediate improvements.

Howson could be very busy this July/August. If it starts to look like there will be a lockout it might be worth another GMs time to try and acquire those two extra 1st round picks. In the event of a complete draft lottery (#1 to #29, excluding New Jersey) having three balls in the machine might be worth the gamble.

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#25 T&A4Flames
July 23 2012, 03:09PM
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Maybe it's just me but it seems that CBJ now have an excess of centermen. I know that Duby can play wing but still; any chance they move any of those centers?

Oh, and suck it Timmy E! Looks good on ya'.

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#26 Ryan Pike
July 23 2012, 03:10PM
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I'm sure Tim Erixon will enjoy his time with the Springfield Falcons.

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#27 schevvy
July 23 2012, 03:43PM
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!! I'm sure Columbus was exactly where he thought he'd be for 2012-13! Sweet, sweet justice.

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#28 MC Hockey
July 23 2012, 03:55PM
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Now for a better-thought-out and more in-depth comment (but not too long):

- Counting numbers on Anisimov and Dubinsky are good, and given their ages, could improve significantly with Anisimov going into his 4th year which is often when players start to really increase their point totals(according to DobberHockey's fantasy analysis)....I am in an area with poor internet service...did KENT or anyone look up advanced stats from BTN or NHL Numbers or look at GVT or GVS for the 3 forwards yet?

- I hate to admit, but Erixon is a very good prospect, despite his snub of the Flames, as not many D-men get compared to Lidstrom (perhaps because of his Swedish nationality that happened in part)

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#29 loudogYYC
July 23 2012, 03:56PM
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This is great! All of it. Not only is that little punk stuck on a bad team, but now with Nash traded every other trade that was on hold can move forward.

I'm curious too see what Detroit's gonna do now.

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#30 RexLibris
July 23 2012, 03:59PM
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@Kent

I was referring to a few of the comments I'm reading here.

I think he is a solid prospect, and he would likely still be in the top ten, or perhaps top five, of Flames prospects were he still there today.

As for the sweet sense of revenge? I'm an Oiler fan. I've spent decades feasting on a steady diet of spite and rejection. It's not so bad once you get over the bitter aftertaste.

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#31 RexLibris
July 23 2012, 04:03PM
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@LoudogYYC

Was the Nash trade stalling things, or is it the pending CBA? I doubt Nash moving helps Vancouver find a new home for Luongo, or makes Doan any more or less desirable for the teams pursuing him.

It might give Howson some other pieces to move in more trades, but aside from that the only similar player that could yet be moved is Bobby Ryan. That would be a player Howson should be looking to add to replace Nash.

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#32 cLyde
July 23 2012, 04:05PM
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Maybe Columbus will flip Erixxon and Brassard for J-Bo? I am kidding. Kind of.

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#33 Clay
July 23 2012, 04:32PM
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@cLyde

Brassard + Erixon + pick/prospect for Jbo?

Feaster would look kind of smart. That would mean he traded net, JBO for Brassard + Horak + Wotherspoon + Granlund + pick/prospect.

I wonder if Erixon would actually eat crow and play here, or bolt to the KHL. No way the Flames would ever trade for him, given what a butthead he was the first time around

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#34 RKD
July 23 2012, 04:34PM
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Glad this Nash saga is over, but excited to talk about a trade.

While on the surface it looks as thought CBJ got the raw end of the deal, I beg to differ slightly.

First off, Howson's asking price was too high. He wanted guys like Callahan, Stephan/McDonagh,which Sather wasn't going to give.

Dubinsky and Anisimov really help to solidify the center ice position. Glad Erixon got his, everyone gets theirs someday.

Erixon adds to the depth of the blueline, which has Johnson, Wiznewski, Aucoin, Tyutin, etc. They got a goalie, ablbeit it's Bobrovsky.

Sather is trying to have an LA powerhouse by stacking his team: Nash, Richards, Callahan, Gaborik, let's see what happens.

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#35 Funkyjaman
July 23 2012, 05:20PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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#36 fretsey
July 23 2012, 05:30PM
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lol...Gotta love the Hockey Gods...have fun in that storied CBJ franchise Timmy!!

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#37 Baalzamon
July 23 2012, 06:34PM
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@Clay

this is frequently forgotten, but the Flames also gave up a 5th round pick (Shane McColgan) in that trade.

Pure conjecture (and mostly unrelated), but I'm pretty sure the original offer was 2 2nds for Erixon, but Feaster wanted one established prospect in the deal, and included a 5th to snag Horak.

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#38 MC Hockey
July 23 2012, 08:16PM
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Now for my BEST...COMMENT...EVER! (and by ever, I mean I have been drinking and I am on vacation, so bear that in mind). So...here goes:

1. Glad Nash thing is over now but think NYR could have signed Steve instead of Rick. Sorry, Steve is also good at soccer like his brother Martin Nash so perhaps the NY Red Bulls would have made more sense.

2. Now, Luongo (or is that upside-down-7-uongo) is traded to Leafs for Phaneuf, Reimer, and 2nd-rounder.

3. While feasting at home, Uncle Jay hits his head on his hardwood floor diving to catch a gravy boat, but seems fine afterwards so he skips the hospital and nothing is done about it. However, in a shocking development the next morning, JayFeast trades JayBo, Horak, a first-rounder, plus 5 of the Flames top prospects for Bobby Ryan from Anaheim. The rationale for including the 5 prospects is to reduce the number of contracts under the 50-contract limit since Jay decides he needs to sign free agents with weird names to "help in the marketing side of things as fans remember unusual names and cheer for them". Thus, later in the day JayFeast signs the following RFAs and UFAs" - Jay Berriball (who says his name was made up by his grandfather who made "underground films back in the 40s") - Luca Caputi (who explains what his names means... in that a "caputi" is an essential part used in the machine for making cappuccinos) - Justin Azevedo (the LA Kings RFA, not the guy on here) - Raymond Sawada (ya gonna do about it) - Marc-Andre Cliche (who comments he plans to give 110% in trying to make the Flames, and will work hard and hopes that everyone will buy in to the new system that the Flames are putting in place under Coach Hartley and Coach Cloutier so that we can surprise other teams and sneak into the playoffs because when you make it there, it's a brand new day and anything can happen) - Justin Abdelkader (who says if he is offered the throne of Britain, he is from the type of family who would give it up because after all, I am an Abdelkader) - Tim Conboy (who says the GM spelled my last name with a W in it and thus I am perfect for Calgary for some reason)

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#39 Franko J
July 23 2012, 09:33PM
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All those here who bash CBJ remember that they beat the Flames 3 out of 4 games last season, if it wasn't for Kiprusoff, Calgary could have very well been in the basement beside them.

For Columbus it was a no win situation, just like Flames are in with Iginla.

As for Erixon, obviously he was given bad advice when it came to his negotiations with the Flames. With him being traded today it shows how ironic the NHL can be.

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#40 RexLibris
July 23 2012, 10:39PM
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Franko J wrote:

All those here who bash CBJ remember that they beat the Flames 3 out of 4 games last season, if it wasn't for Kiprusoff, Calgary could have very well been in the basement beside them.

For Columbus it was a no win situation, just like Flames are in with Iginla.

As for Erixon, obviously he was given bad advice when it came to his negotiations with the Flames. With him being traded today it shows how ironic the NHL can be.

If I recall correctly, Feaster said that without Kiprusoff the Flames would be "worse than 30th", presumably implying that the Norfolk Admirals would be a better ranked team.

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#41 House
July 23 2012, 10:47PM
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Harsh. (But true, unfortunately).

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#42 Charleston Kingsley
July 23 2012, 10:48PM
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Does anyone else think that Nash is very overrated?

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#43 T&A4Flames
July 23 2012, 10:57PM
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MC Hockey wrote:

Now for my BEST...COMMENT...EVER! (and by ever, I mean I have been drinking and I am on vacation, so bear that in mind). So...here goes:

1. Glad Nash thing is over now but think NYR could have signed Steve instead of Rick. Sorry, Steve is also good at soccer like his brother Martin Nash so perhaps the NY Red Bulls would have made more sense.

2. Now, Luongo (or is that upside-down-7-uongo) is traded to Leafs for Phaneuf, Reimer, and 2nd-rounder.

3. While feasting at home, Uncle Jay hits his head on his hardwood floor diving to catch a gravy boat, but seems fine afterwards so he skips the hospital and nothing is done about it. However, in a shocking development the next morning, JayFeast trades JayBo, Horak, a first-rounder, plus 5 of the Flames top prospects for Bobby Ryan from Anaheim. The rationale for including the 5 prospects is to reduce the number of contracts under the 50-contract limit since Jay decides he needs to sign free agents with weird names to "help in the marketing side of things as fans remember unusual names and cheer for them". Thus, later in the day JayFeast signs the following RFAs and UFAs" - Jay Berriball (who says his name was made up by his grandfather who made "underground films back in the 40s") - Luca Caputi (who explains what his names means... in that a "caputi" is an essential part used in the machine for making cappuccinos) - Justin Azevedo (the LA Kings RFA, not the guy on here) - Raymond Sawada (ya gonna do about it) - Marc-Andre Cliche (who comments he plans to give 110% in trying to make the Flames, and will work hard and hopes that everyone will buy in to the new system that the Flames are putting in place under Coach Hartley and Coach Cloutier so that we can surprise other teams and sneak into the playoffs because when you make it there, it's a brand new day and anything can happen) - Justin Abdelkader (who says if he is offered the throne of Britain, he is from the type of family who would give it up because after all, I am an Abdelkader) - Tim Conboy (who says the GM spelled my last name with a W in it and thus I am perfect for Calgary for some reason)

Oh...o..okay drunky. I hope you read your comments tomorrow morning. Doooooesn't make a whole lot of sense. But, I hope you're enjoying the holidays.

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#44 Willi P
July 23 2012, 11:40PM
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OK, T&A,

Nothing wrong with a little "drunky" and holidays. Give MC a pass on this one.

Wrt Nash, overated floater and I think the CBJ's did all right (not great) on the deal.

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#45 Baalzamon
July 23 2012, 11:44PM
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@Franko J

people bash Columbus not just because they're a bad team, but because they're run by a bunch of blindfolded, lobotomized monkeys.

okay, I guess that wasn't really fair. Blindfolded, lobotomized monkeys would probably do a better job. Columbus' management makes the Flames' look cool, rational, and firmly grounded in reality.

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#46 robinrussia
July 24 2012, 12:59AM
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Baalzamon wrote:

people bash Columbus not just because they're a bad team, but because they're run by a bunch of blindfolded, lobotomized monkeys.

okay, I guess that wasn't really fair. Blindfolded, lobotomized monkeys would probably do a better job. Columbus' management makes the Flames' look cool, rational, and firmly grounded in reality.

Not really

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#47 kittensandcookies
July 24 2012, 08:30AM
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@Charleston Kingsley

Name the four players that have scored at least 30 goals in the past five seasons.

In regards to Erixon, it's not that he's a good or bad prospect, but I could see him leaving the NHL now.

In regards to Anisimov, he's a UFA after this year.

Wheeee!

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#48 backburner
July 24 2012, 08:37AM
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If that is the kind of return we would get for Iggy, count me out!

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#49 backburner
July 24 2012, 08:48AM
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@Rex Libris

I appreciate your input on this site, even though you strike me as an Oiler's fan pretending to have interest on this site for no other reason than to mix a few undertone jabs in your comments to get your jollies off...

Its annoying, but clever.. If I'm completely wrong I apologize..

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#50 RexLibris
July 24 2012, 09:10AM
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@backburner

Not at all. I refuse to troll, as I detest that behaviour. But I will call something as I see it. My interest is genuine. I'm not a fan of the Flames, but I do follow the workings of the team. They are a close provincial rival and are on a very different path from the Oilers. Why not follow them?

I'm not trying to be annoying ("it comes naturally" - ba dum ching), I just thought I should point out that Flames fans, currently celebrating their recent draft picks and excited over several intriguing prospects in their system, should keep in mind that Erixon was, up until his trade demand, the most promising prospect in the system. I've seen celebrated prospects collapse in spite of themselves, so I tend to be skeptical.

As I said before, I don't begrudge fans here their enmity towards Erixon. Trust me, I get it.

There are many Oiler fans would are very pleased that Riley Nash still hasn't cracked an NHL lineup. And I don't think I need to go over Oiler fans reactions to Mike Comrie, Chris Pronger, Michael Nylander or Dany Heatley here.

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