2013 Flames Training Camp Preview

Ryan Pike
January 07 2013 08:36AM

The lockout is over! Training camp for the abbreviated 2013 NHL campaign will begin some time this week.

Approximately 30 to 33 players will be invited to training camp, according to Jay Feaster on The Fan960 recently. Breaking it down, however, it's patently obvious that there won't be a lot of true roster battles.

GOALTENDERS

The Flames have three goalies under NHL deals for 2013 that are in North America: Miikka Kiprusoff, Henrik Karlsson and Leland Irving. Joni Ortio has a contract but is still with HIFK Helsinki in SM-Liiga.

Although he's now 36 years old, Kiprusoff is the undisputed starting goaltender after a bit of a renaissance season last year. Karlsson and Irving will battle it out for the back-up job. Hard to tell which guy has the inside track, as Karlsson is mediocre and hasn't been playing while Irving has fallen on his face in the AHL. The last time the former first rounder started a game for the Heat was December 15th. He also has the worst record and save percentage of the three puck stoppers on the farm.

The good news is, the back-up probably doesn't matter since Kiprusoff can likely play 99% of the games in the shortened season. Unless he gets injured, of course...

DEFENSEMEN

Here's where the log-jam hits. The Flames have eight bodies on NHL one-way deals: Jay Bouwmeester, Dennis Wideman, Mark Giordano, Anton Babchuk, Cory Sarich, Chris Butler, Derek Smith and Brett Carson. Then they have T.J. Brodie, who earned a job with the team last year and has been excellent for Abbotsford this year. Even if the Flames could convince Babchuk to stay at home to play with the KHL's HC Donbass Donesk, as he has during the lockout, that's still eight bodies for seven jobs.

In addition to those eight or nine players, expect to see Abbotsford's Steve McCarthy on a try-out and perhaps one or two of Brady Lamb, Chris Breen and Joe Piskula. Breen, in particular, has had his best AHL season and the Flames may want to see how he stacks up against NHL bodies.

Calgary may carry eight defensemen, which would mean that Carson gets waived and assigned to Abbotsford and the team carries 13 forwards instead of 14. Then again, that depends on how Bob Hartley wants to assign roles.

FORWARDS

Like the defensemen, this gets crowded pretty quickly.

Jarome Iginla, Mike Cammalleri, Jiri Hudler, Alex Tanguay, Matt Stajan, Curtis Glencross, Lee Stempniak, Blake Comeau, Blair Jones, Mikael Backlund, Sven Baertschi, and Tim Jackman are locks. That's a dozen bodies. The two other forward spots would normally go to Lance Bouma, who was decent as a 4th liner last year, and KHL standout Roman Cervenka. Unfortunately, both of those gentlemen are currently injured. Bouma with a knee problem that could keep him out for the rest of the year and Cervenka with a blood clot in his leg that doesn't have a particular time table attached for recovery right now.

Vying for the one or two final spots are an interesting mix of people. Leading the way is newly-minted AHL sniper (and NHL sophomore) Roman Horak. After him, there's guys like Paul Byron, Max Reinhart, Ben Street, Akim Aliu, Krys Kolanos and Steve Begin, who will be in camp on a try-out basis. Greg Nemisz has an outside shot to be invited to camp, but as an AHL 4th liner with zero points in 15 games it's doubtful he'll truly challenge for a spot.

The two players with the inside track are probably Horak and Ben Street. Street has been excellent in Abbotsford and leads the team in both points and shots on goal. Horak made the club out of camp last year and leads the Heat in goals. He's also extremely versatile since he can play all three forward positions.

An interesting wrinkle will be the centres: Jiri Hudler, Matt Stajan, Mikael Backlund, Paul Byron and Blair Jones are the “natural” pivots in camp, although Hudler mostly played RW in Detroit. Horak and Cammalleri have lined up in the middle in the past and Max Reinhart and Ben Street are also centres.

Cervenka was penciled in as the club's first or second line center, so there is going to be room in the Flames top-six rotation while he's out. That should open up space on the third or fourth line, depending what Hartley thinks of Matt Stajan. Good news for Street, Horak, Byron and maybe even Reinhart.

BURNING QUESTIONS

How will Bob Hartley and his brand-new staff implement a new system in such a short amount of time?

How will the new Flames (Wideman, Hudler, Baertschi) gel with their new teammates?

How long will Cervenka and Bouma be out?

Is Leland Irving's AHL performance indicative of anything at all?

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Now in his third full season covering the Calgary Flames and the NHL, Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's trying to keep his head up, his stick on the ice and is giving it 110% every shift. You can also find his work at The Hockey Writers, the Wrestling Observer and Tough Talk MMA.
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#1 Subversive
January 07 2013, 12:19PM
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It is interesting how we are supporting the spolied multi-millionares to come back. We pay them so I hope fans voice some kind of protest around that fact while this is still fresh in everyone's mind. But alas, life is not fair, unless of course your an NHL player. Owners need some kind of message also. Would be cool to see only 1000 fans in the seats for the first 2 or 3 games (consisting of mostly owners and players family/friends) to make a statement. Just sayin.

No one's "supporting" anyone, per se. If you love hockey, and feel that spending money on it as an entertainment product is worthwhile in your value system, then go for it! If not, don't. Simple.

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#2 RKD
January 07 2013, 12:48PM
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Get that Babchuck out of there, let's see how Cammalleri slots in as a #1 center. It could work all he and Iggy need is Tangs to feed them the puck. He might struggle with face-offs given his size.

Every NHL team will probably need a lot of the kids to get them through the first little bit of rust and injuries.

It will be awesome to watch Baertschi be on this team full time and I hope Backs doesn't get injured and lift his offensive production.

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#3 Shep
January 07 2013, 08:55AM
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Yay hockey! I hear cervenka is good to go.. Im pulling for him

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#4 Kent Wilson
January 07 2013, 08:57AM
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@Shep

Where'd you hear that? Flames brass has been saying "week-to-week" on the radio here.

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#5 SeanCharles
January 07 2013, 09:01AM
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If no one gets traded I predict the lineup will be:

Cammy-Tanguay-Iginla Baertschi-Backlund-Hudler Glencross-Stajan-Stempniak Comeau-Jones-Jackman Aliu

Bouwmeester-Wideman Giordano-Brodie Butler-Sarich Smith-Babchuck

Kipper Irving

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#6 backburner
January 07 2013, 09:18AM
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It will be interesting to see if Ben Street can make the cut..

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#7 meat1
January 07 2013, 09:48AM
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Looking forward to a few days from now when all the lockout talk is gone and hockey talk totally returns. Team Canada's junior team personnel are probably as happy as anyone with the timing of this all.....suddenly picking that team apart isn't of as much importance now. Let's go Flames! Get off to a good start and then let 'er buck!

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#8 seve927
January 07 2013, 09:53AM
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Does Ben Street really have a chance? I'd be very surprised. With only 3 contracts available to give, I don't think you want to give one there, when you're already overloaded with ~NHL skaters. I'd rather see one given to Brust or Taylor as a backup. Like you said if Kipper gets injured, I don't like pinning any hopes on Irving or Karlsson.

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#9 backburner
January 07 2013, 10:16AM
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If Kipper gets injured we're screwed... I wonder what the chances are that Ramo will play this season?

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#10 Brent G.
January 07 2013, 10:36AM
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If Kipper gets injured we're screwed... I wonder what the chances are that Ramo will play this season?

This isn't new. Since 2003 if Kipper got injured they were always going to be screwed.

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#11 JayD54
January 07 2013, 10:42AM
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Ben Street already has an NHL deal with the Flames and is, therefore, one of the 47 contracts in place. And with his demonstrated capability defensively and in the face off circle, shot and puck distribution, he should get a good look see, if not in the main camp then as one of the first call ups.

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#12 seve927
January 07 2013, 10:46AM
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This isn't new. Since 2003 if Kipper got injured they were always going to be screwed.

Sort of. But at least then if Kipper was out a year, he was back the next. We're finally being forced to find a backup that can also be a replacement.

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#13 seve927
January 07 2013, 10:56AM
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seve927

Ben Street already has an NHL deal with the Flames and is, therefore, one of the 47 contracts in place. And with his demonstrated capability defensively and in the face off circle, shot and puck distribution, he should get a good look see, if not in the main camp then as one of the first call ups.

Whoops. Right you are. Should have looked first I guess.

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#14 Kent Wilson
January 07 2013, 11:27AM
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@backburner

I doubt Ramo plays this season. He's Flames property, but as far as I know he doesn't have a contract with the club currently. He's also the starter for his KHL club and they are one of the best teams in the league.

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#15 Ken V.
January 07 2013, 11:46AM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Where'd you hear that? Flames brass has been saying "week-to-week" on the radio here.

@Shep

He didn't this is clear textual diarrhea.

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#16 Charleston Kingsley
January 07 2013, 11:55AM
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Can we waive or trade Karlsson and sign Brust? I'm somewhat worried about Kiprusoff given his tendency to start the season slow and one of my biggest question marks of the season is whether he keeps up his great play from last year or regresses back to being an average goaltender.

It makes the most sense to have Brust as our back-up. He has been phenomenal with the Heat and has earned a ticket to the big leagues in my opinion.

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#17 @Gingras34
January 07 2013, 11:59AM
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Cervenka's agent claims he's good to go. He needs to get to Canada asap and checked out by doctors.

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#18 mcculb
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It is interesting how we are supporting the spolied multi-millionares to come back. We pay them so I hope fans voice some kind of protest around that fact while this is still fresh in everyone's mind. But alas, life is not fair, unless of course your an NHL player. Owners need some kind of message also. Would be cool to see only 1000 fans in the seats for the first 2 or 3 games (consisting of mostly owners and players family/friends) to make a statement. Just sayin.

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#19 McRib
January 07 2013, 12:22PM
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Funny Ben Street is a good example of when going to the NCAA is the wrong decision. Playing Tier Two his draft year in the BCHL he was approached by numerous WHL teams and would have been drafted with more exposure but NHL clubs passed him over as he didn't light the world on fire in Salmon Arm. Has worked very hard to get an NHL shot after playing a season in the ECHL because he was buried on stacked Wisconsin team.

Hope he gets a chance with the Flames this season but when will Western Canadian kids realize that NCAA teams top priority is developing American Kids.

Growing up around my age group there were two top WHL bantam pucks (a 2nd overall - Dan Bertram and 7th overall - Tyler Swystun) that spurned the WHL and neither is playing hockey anymore.

It will be interesting to see how Tanner McMaster does as he is playing for the same AJHL team that the two mentioned above did.

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#20 madjam
January 07 2013, 12:49PM
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What are the chances they will buy out Kipper and Iggy at end of year , if this season is another no playoff year ?

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#21 Willi P
January 07 2013, 12:59PM
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What are the chances they will buy out Kipper and Iggy at end of year , if this season is another no playoff year ?

Umm I believe no chance since both of their contracts expire at the end of the year

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#22 Kent Wilson
January 07 2013, 01:05PM
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Iginla's expires, but Kipper has one more season.

I think the only chance they buy-out Kipper is he tells the team he'd rather retire and go back to Finland and they do it so he can leave but still collect some dollars from his final year.

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#23 Kent Wilson
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@McRib

Interesting. Thanks for the background info.

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#24 Kevin R
January 07 2013, 01:32PM
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Kent, when do the KHL playoffs start & potentially how long do they usually go? With a condensed shortened season I would imagine the NHL give teams the ability to bring in players later than usual, especially with the potential of many injuries.

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#25 Shep
January 07 2013, 02:48PM
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Roman Jedlicka tweeted it but I don't know, looks wrong now :-/

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#26 RKD
January 07 2013, 03:19PM
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TSN's Bob McKenzie tweeted Lance Bouma is out with season ending knee surgery.

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#27 gotommygo
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Roman Jedlicka tweeted it but I don't know, looks wrong now :-/

Actually, it looks right. Calgary Flames website is reporting the same thing.

http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=649321&navid=DL|CGY|home

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#28 MC Hockey
January 07 2013, 10:29PM
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If you all did not hear, TANGUAY is apparently going to be a Centre, yes Alex Tanguay. He said so on the radio this morning and don't think he would just put that out there for no reason. Makes sense if you want him to feed scoring wingers - likely Iginla and Cammi but maybe Baertschi or Cervenka.

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#29 Chris
January 07 2013, 11:25PM
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> Is Leland Irving's AHL performance indicative of anything at all?

Yes, it is.

The Flames don't know how to develop young goaltenders into starters, or even backups. Playing Kiprusoff for 48 straight games won't help this.

Let's hope they learn how to do this before Kipper retires...

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#30 mcculb
January 08 2013, 08:55AM
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Subversive wrote:

No one's "supporting" anyone, per se. If you love hockey, and feel that spending money on it as an entertainment product is worthwhile in your value system, then go for it! If not, don't. Simple.

It is like the lock out never happened. If the world was run by hockey fans there would be no conflict or war.

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#31 Kent Wilson
January 08 2013, 09:56AM
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@Kevin R

Not too sure Kevin. They play a 54 games season and most teams are up to 40 games now. That probably means playoffs start around the end of February or start of March. From there, it depends how far each team goes.

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