Post-Game: Flames Deal With The Devils

Ryan Pike
October 11 2013 10:07PM

 

With points in their first four games of the season, the Calgary Flames had a unique opportunity before them on Friday night at the Scotiabank Saddledome. After 60 minutes of hard-fought, occasionally chess-like hockey, the Flames were able to make a little bit of history.

THE RUNDOWN

The first period was pretty even and quite back and forth. The Flames out-shot the Devils 10-7, but New Jersey struck first. With the Flames on a power-play, Curtis Glencross took a tripping penalty and after a brief period of four-on-four, the Devils got a truncated power-play opportunity. On the heels of an exchange featuring some nice passing (and some nice reflex saves from Joey MacDonald), Adam Henrique put the puck past MacDonald for his first goal of the year, giving New Jersey a 1-0 lead. The Devils goal was scored just after Glencross' penalty expired, but the zone control the Devils gained was due to their PP.

The Flames power-play was the star of the second period. The teams each had 10 shots on net in the second, but the Devils definitely carried the play. The difference - and what kept Calgary in the contest - was a combination of the Devils' lack of discipline and Calgary's opportunism on the PP.

Case in point: Calgary tied the game on a beautiful one-timer from Dennis Wideman on a power-play created by an Anton Volchenkov penalty in the Devils' zone. The Devils kept pressing and re-took the lead on a Dainus Zubrus one-timer from the point that beat Joey MacDonald at the top-corner (but wasn't really screened), putting the Devils up 2-1. However, just three minutes and change later, the Flames tied it up. After Michael Ryder took a goalie interference penalty - nullifying a potential third Devils goal - Mark Giordano capped a nice power-play by deking past two Devils forwards and going back-hand on a sprawling Martin Brodeur to tie the game up at 2. Granted, Brodeur was expecting a different shot from the point and went down too early, but hey, the Flames PP scored for a second time and kept the Flames in it.

There was lots of Flames pressure early in the third period, including one segment where the fourth line created two nice little opportunities and another where the Baertschi line had maybe six or seven whacks at the puck in front of Brodeur - but the wily veteran made several gorgeous saves to keep things dead-locked. The Flames ended up getting hemmed into their own zone for a while with about seven minutes left: Bouma blocked two shots, Backlund blocked two shots, and the Flames ended up getting a two-on-one opportunity out of it. The Flames have adopted a more structured, PK-like system in their own zone. It's a bit passive for my tastes, but it does prevent them from running around like fools in their own zone.

The Flames went ahead with just over two minutes left when Baertschi, on the half-boards, found Sean Monahan on the far side of the crease through a maze of coverage for a one-timed slap-pass. They managed to hold on following a late penalty to Mark Giordano to win their third game of 2013-14.

FLAME OF THE GAME

Giants #10 Lance Bouma, Giants #25 Nick Ross

I'm gonna go with Lance Bouma. Number 17 got his first taste of the top-nine and didn't look out of place. Moreover, when the Flames got hemmed in their zone in the third with the game tied, he sacrified his body to keep the game stuck at 2-2. He didn't get any points, but Bouma definitely factored in on the score-sheet.

Honourable mention to Jiri Hudler, who had two assists.

WHY THE FLAMES WON

In short, the Flames stuck to their system. In the third period, the Devils got tired and got a bit sloppy defensively. The Flames stuck to their coverage and got a few lucky breaks - two power-play goals and a gorgeous, gorgeous pass from Baertschi on the winning goal that made it to Monahan's stick

SCORING CHANCES

# Player EV     PP     SH    
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 19:59 4 6 01:51 0 0 00:00 0 0
5 GIORDANO, MARK 16:45 1 2 05:02 3 0 01:04 0 0
6 WIDEMAN, DENNIS 21:54 5 6 04:49 4 0 02:23 0 1
7 BRODIE, TJ 20:49 4 4 01:38 1 0 01:21 0 1
8 COLBORNE, JOE 06:44 2 1 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
11 BACKLUND, MIKAEL 15:45 4 5 02:32 0 0 01:59 0 0
15 JACKMAN, TIM 05:49 1 1 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
16 MCGRATTAN, BRIAN 06:08 2 1 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
17 BOUMA, LANCE 15:14 3 6 00:00 0 0 01:06 0 1
20 GLENCROSS, CURTIS 14:45 1 3 04:08 4 0 00:00 0 0
22 STEMPNIAK, LEE 11:57 2 4 03:51 4 0 00:37 0 0
23 MONAHAN, SEAN 13:59 4 1 02:32 0 0 00:00 0 0
24 HUDLER, JIRI 16:43 4 2 04:23 4 0 00:00 0 0
35 MACDONALD, JOEY   11 12   4 0   0 1
38 STREET, BEN 14:44 2 6 00:17 0 0 01:21 0 1
39 GALIARDI, TJ 16:06 3 5 00:00 0 0 01:07 0 0
44 BUTLER, CHRIS 12:14 5 4 00:00 0 0 01:22 0 0
47 BAERTSCHI, SVEN 12:37 4 1 02:17 0 0 00:00 0 0
55 O'BRIEN, SHANE 08:49 3 2 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 4 2 3 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 7 6 4 6 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 4 5 4 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0

 

SUM IT UP

Two big things happened: the Flames were opportunitic and their power-play kept them in the game. And then the Monahan experience continued, with the 18-year-old (he turns 19 tomorrow) scoring yet another big goal. Be sure to laugh at Kent in the comments.

The Flames hit the road with a 3-0-2 record and a lot of confidence in themselves and their systems.

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Now in his third full season covering the Calgary Flames and the NHL, Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's trying to keep his head up, his stick on the ice and is giving it 110% every shift. You can also find his work at The Hockey Writers, the Wrestling Observer and Tough Talk MMA.
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#1 Mattimvs
October 11 2013, 10:25PM
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I know that this isn't a popular opinion but: I still think it would benefit both Monahan and the big club to send him back down for the remainder of the season. I'm positive that (what being a multi-decade Flames fan has taught me): on his 10th game in the bigs, our wheels'll come off.

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#2 Mitch P
October 11 2013, 10:58PM
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Legit question. I'm a Flames fan, have only ever seen them play in Vancouver or Toronto (as I haven't lived in Calgary since I was 6). Why is it when the Flames score the camera shows the crowd and only half the people are on their feet? Everywhere else I've been everyone is standing and cheering. It always bums me out to see everyone at the dome sitting...

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#3 MichaelD
October 11 2013, 10:25PM
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Ryan Pike wrote:

Flames had 8 icings, to New Jersey's 3. Butler was particularly icing-crazy tonight.

Please don't make icing a thing

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#4 Bezer
October 11 2013, 10:30PM
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@Ryan Pike

After that Icing article I have been paying more attention to Icings.. It certain can tell us something about the game.

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#5 Mikeoxbig
October 11 2013, 10:19PM
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Hard work and relentless pursuit of the puck. Nice to see after an era of underachievers. This team is playing for each other right now, however Im interested how long they can play at this pace before we start breaking down. Im a pessimist sorry.

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#7 the forgotten man
October 11 2013, 11:02PM
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Wow, was Iginla that much of an anchor/poison in the dressing room for this Club the previous 2-3 seasons...I knew he wasn't helping the team but was it that detrimental? Fascinating stuff.

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#8 Jeff In Lethbridge
October 11 2013, 10:22PM
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he's earned his spot on the third line. end of story.

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#9 Rockmorton65
October 11 2013, 10:50PM
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Bezer wrote:

After that Icing article I have been paying more attention to Icings.. It certain can tell us something about the game.

Yeah, it can tell us how many icings there were in the game.

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#10 Rockmorton65
October 11 2013, 11:25PM
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Is anyone else starting to get the feeling that if they send Monahan back to junior, Baertchi's game could regress?

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#12 clyde
October 12 2013, 12:16AM
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Ryan Pike wrote:

Lance Bouma is a monster.

Very gritty player.

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#13 BurningSensation
October 12 2013, 12:32PM
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A few things:

- The first 9 games is not long enough to effectively judge Monahan's suitability for the NHL. Which raises the question, if Monahan is kept up for an extended evaluation period (say 20 games) and in that time he demonstrates he should be sent back down, are we ok with the loss of a year on his ELC? (Call this the 'Grigerenko situation'). Yes, it's arguably 'poor asset management' (or whatever expletive Ryan Lambert would call it), but wouldn't you rather have an extended look to see if what we have seen so far is 'real'? On the flip side, maybe Monahan doesn't regress (much - his shooting % is currently ridiculous and will dip - Mike Bossy was 'only' a 20% shooter for his career, and Monahan as good as he is, is no Mike Bossy), and proves he really is an NHL caliber pivot at 18-19 years old. It could happen. Let's find out.

- I haven't loved Hartley as a coach, but I am seriously warming to him. I suspect that McDonald is getting the starts for the oldest reason in the book - he's been winning. Players respect that, even if management would prefer Ramo get more burn.

- Going back to Keenan there have been whispered rumours of Iggy not being great in the room, or even being all that enamoured of listening to coaches. Meh. Absent some substaniated evidence that Iggy was a bad locker room guy I think it's all noise.

- The Flames hot start reminds me a ton of Minnesota a couple years back. It just doesn't pass the smell test. A team like the Flames will outwork some teams early in the season, and benefit from random luck effects that boost their win total. As exciting as it is to see the Flames winning, I just don't see them being playoff bound.

- Gotta hand it to the vets, Stempniak, Hudler, Wideman, and Gio are all playing out of their minds right now and are leading by example. More than anything else, this strikes me as the major difference between Cgy's rebuild and Edm's. In our case we have some reliable vets (albeit lower case talents all) to help steer the bus while the kids figure things out.

- Brodie is just light years better than I expected he would ever be. Everytime I watch him play he pulls off a pass that I didn't think he could make, or makes a solid read in his own zone that I didn't expect. There is also a calmness to him that he's developed in the last two years. Could be a beauty in the Duncan Keith mold.

- Backlund. I still don't know what his ceiling is, but the kid does so many of the little things right it would be a shame if he didn't develop an offensive game that complimented his all-round skills.

That all said, winter is coming. Strong coaching and team spirit will only get you so far when the shooting % regresses.

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#14 Renslip
October 12 2013, 03:03AM
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clyde wrote:

Very gritty player.

would you say the word Truculence for me please?

(side note: only pluses to to Brian Burke are not having King there, and maybe winning a trade with Toronto for the first time in 25 years.)

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#15 thymebalm
October 12 2013, 03:12AM
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We still need to shore up goaltending. No doubt that Mac gets another start after tonight.

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#16 durr
October 12 2013, 04:08AM
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schevvy wrote:

Monahan has a SH% of 30.8. Sustainable.

Ugh. Here. This guy did a great breakdown of last night's goal and none of it will show up in any fancy stats metric.

http://fansided.com/2013/10/12/breaking-down-what-makes-sean-monahan-calgary-flames-special/

So in the end, he had one shot on net and scored for a 100% SH%. Totally unsustainable? Who cares!

Even if he didn't score, watch the play he made. This goal wasn't a fluke or a lucky bounce. He aggressively forechecked the defender and then had the presence of mind to head to an empty sheet of ice away from the play. He's creating time, space and chances for himself and his team-mates... I'd suggest that this is "sustainable" and more important in his evaluation than whatever his point total, shooting percentage or scoring chance differential rating is at the end of 9 games.

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#17 kittensandcookies
October 12 2013, 08:05AM
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Bleh, every other team faced problems due to the lockout.

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#18 Clyde
October 12 2013, 09:42AM
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Renslip wrote:

would you say the word Truculence for me please?

(side note: only pluses to to Brian Burke are not having King there, and maybe winning a trade with Toronto for the first time in 25 years.)

Why did you bring up Burke and why are those the only positives to having him here?

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#19 Kevin R
October 12 2013, 11:57AM
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Baalzamon wrote:

When Stajan and Cammalleri return:

Glencross - Stajan - Cammalleri

Galiardi - Backlund - Hudler

Baertschi - Monahan - Stempniak

Bouma - Street - Colborne.

I don't know if it's just me, but I don't want Stajan or Cammi returning too quick. If anything, teams like Philly & Rangers are really really struggling with offense. Maybe there is a market for them & we can score a 1st & another high end prospect for these guys to a desperate team trying to shake up their front lines. I like this line up & if we do start to struggle a bit or get injuries, I don't care what our record is, I want to give guys like Ramage, Cundari, Breen, Knight, Reinhart, Horak as many games possible in the NHL as well at some point this year. Lets have fun with this, & don't forget we are rebuilding. I wouldn't mind seeing Gaudreau, Arnold & Agostini later this year as well.

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#21 Jeff In Lethbridge
October 11 2013, 10:26PM
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Ryan Pike wrote:

Flames had 8 icings, to New Jersey's 3. Butler was particularly icing-crazy tonight.

is that a new advanced stat?

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#22 schevvy
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Monahan has a SH% of 30.8. Sustainable.

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#23 loudogYYC
October 12 2013, 01:42AM
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@gussey

He's from Toronto so yeah, he's Canadian. Not sure about team Canada though.

The top 4 looks real good right now minus Russell, I think he'd be better as a #5. If only there was a suitable free agent puck moving Dman like Toni Lydman out there...

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#24 Lober
October 12 2013, 01:54AM
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So when does Feaster make a trade for some vets.... kidding (I hope)I LOVE THE NEW FLAMES!!!

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#25 ChinookArch
October 12 2013, 09:54AM
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I was in the Dome last night. I love that the Flames are stringing wins together right now, but I have to admit I'm not sure how lucky or unlucky the team is. On one hand, they are getting into scoring areas and creating chances (and seemingly burying everything), on the other goaltending is not good enough.

One thing is for sure when they were playing without a high intensity (or desparation) in periods 1 & 2, they were very beatable.

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#26 suba steve
October 12 2013, 11:37AM
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On Monahan, still have 4 more games to make a final call, but I'd like to ask:

who among you could tell this kid (with a straight face) that he is just not ready for the NHL, so we're sending you back to the OHL?

Also on the issue of small sample sizes, Janko scored twice last night vs Minnesota State. Gilles, one goal against in a 5-1 win. Gilmour 1G, 1A.

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#27 Kevin R
October 12 2013, 11:39AM
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One other point on the Monahan debate is if you are Jay Feaster, the team is winning, Monahan & your other future hopeful star in Sven is playing well with Monahan, scoring, building chemistry & getting fans excited. After game 9 Ryan Lambert convinces you to send Monahan down because he didn't want to burn a year on the ELC, & he'll be a better player crushing other junior players with half the effort. Sven starts to struggle, the team doesn't score much & starts to lose & Murray Edwards wants to know why the young star was sent down? Jay squirms in the chair & says I think he would develop better crushing junior players & we save a year on the ELC. Also, another good draft pick sounds pretty good too.

I would call that a career killer.

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#28 TRAV
October 12 2013, 11:40AM
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@Craig

With a long road trip coming up I am pretty certain that RAMO will see more action soon. (It will be great getting a better sense of what we have in net) Having said that I don't think that you can fault Hartley for sticking with whats working. It is funny how in spite of this terrific start everyone continues to question the coach and his decisions. I get it... this is the nature of the beast. (and what keeps sites like these fun) Having said that Joey is putting up wins. Ultimately this is the most important of all goalie stats. When the wins stop, by all means look for someone else to get things rolling again!

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#29 Mikeoxbig
October 12 2013, 12:16PM
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Yes, Jankowski scored two but Gilmour scored two as well. The review on the game praised Both players. Side note; they are on different lines.

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#30 Kevin R
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BurningSensation wrote:

A few things:

- The first 9 games is not long enough to effectively judge Monahan's suitability for the NHL. Which raises the question, if Monahan is kept up for an extended evaluation period (say 20 games) and in that time he demonstrates he should be sent back down, are we ok with the loss of a year on his ELC? (Call this the 'Grigerenko situation'). Yes, it's arguably 'poor asset management' (or whatever expletive Ryan Lambert would call it), but wouldn't you rather have an extended look to see if what we have seen so far is 'real'? On the flip side, maybe Monahan doesn't regress (much - his shooting % is currently ridiculous and will dip - Mike Bossy was 'only' a 20% shooter for his career, and Monahan as good as he is, is no Mike Bossy), and proves he really is an NHL caliber pivot at 18-19 years old. It could happen. Let's find out.

- I haven't loved Hartley as a coach, but I am seriously warming to him. I suspect that McDonald is getting the starts for the oldest reason in the book - he's been winning. Players respect that, even if management would prefer Ramo get more burn.

- Going back to Keenan there have been whispered rumours of Iggy not being great in the room, or even being all that enamoured of listening to coaches. Meh. Absent some substaniated evidence that Iggy was a bad locker room guy I think it's all noise.

- The Flames hot start reminds me a ton of Minnesota a couple years back. It just doesn't pass the smell test. A team like the Flames will outwork some teams early in the season, and benefit from random luck effects that boost their win total. As exciting as it is to see the Flames winning, I just don't see them being playoff bound.

- Gotta hand it to the vets, Stempniak, Hudler, Wideman, and Gio are all playing out of their minds right now and are leading by example. More than anything else, this strikes me as the major difference between Cgy's rebuild and Edm's. In our case we have some reliable vets (albeit lower case talents all) to help steer the bus while the kids figure things out.

- Brodie is just light years better than I expected he would ever be. Everytime I watch him play he pulls off a pass that I didn't think he could make, or makes a solid read in his own zone that I didn't expect. There is also a calmness to him that he's developed in the last two years. Could be a beauty in the Duncan Keith mold.

- Backlund. I still don't know what his ceiling is, but the kid does so many of the little things right it would be a shame if he didn't develop an offensive game that complimented his all-round skills.

That all said, winter is coming. Strong coaching and team spirit will only get you so far when the shooting % regresses.

Hey Bro! I know lots of us like to nip into the Kool aid a little too often, but you know, sometimes it is pretty good therapy to take a few sips & enjoy it. We don't get a lot of reasons to toast around these parts, but watching this team grow & form a culture we have been missing since 2004, well let us have our Kool-Aid moment.

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#31 Bezer
October 11 2013, 10:10PM
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WTF is going on?? These are not the Flames I have known for the last bunch of years...

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#32 BitGeek
October 11 2013, 10:18PM
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"Where's the puck??!!!"

"It's not in the neeeeeeeeeeet!!!"

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Ok... so just one question... did someone copyright the "Red Warrior"?? Seems like we dropped that nifty little nick name.

Good show put on by the Flames. Did you hear the crowd chanting in the 3rd?? Haven't heard that in a while..... Ahhhh that brought me back....

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#33 Jeff In Lethbridge
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just goes to show what can happen when you get rid of "stars" who floated around the blue line, refused to back-check, and refused to play the "system" which is only for common players

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#34 TRAV
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I didn't see the game was at the Stamps game. (so take this with a grain of salt) It put a smile on my face to see that Monahan scored. I hate to bring this up... but I'm not sure why we act as though his scoring doesn't matter on this site. It seems to me that putting the puck in the net is the way that you win games. I appreciate that this pace won't last forever but to disregard the fact that this guy is SCORING GOALS seem rather stupid. Of all the stats that there is, isn't scoring the most important. (I know there are other very important stats. Yes if he is scoring two but costing five that matters)

I appreciate that there are other factors that matter but I was sort of thinking to myself after 70 some posts in the previous article almost no one brought up the fact that he was scoring, as though this was irrelevant. Of course it is not irrelevant. It is the point of the game... Let's not over think things trying to be the smartest guys in the room...

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#35 ?
October 11 2013, 10:45PM
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I thought the Flames top 4 wasn't gonna be able to cut it this year. Boy was I wrong. Gio looks like a whole new D-man out there, and Brodie continues to amaze me with his rapid development.

MONAHAN!!!!!

that is all

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#36 please cancel acct
October 11 2013, 10:52PM
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Totally agree with Bouma earning the Flame of the Game. He introduced himself as a NHL'er tonite.

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#37 everton fc
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When Cammy and Stajan return, here's what we should look like (note D. Jones isn't represented; when he returns, Galiardi moves)

Glencross-Stajan-Galiardi Baertschi-Monahan-Stempniak Cammalleri-Backlund-Hudler Bouma-Colborne-Street

But when D. Jones returns... Who moves on the right side? Unless they ship Monahan back to the OHL - then I think Backlund moves up to take Monahan's spot on the 2nd line (Cammy could, too) with either Galiardi or Bouma becoming 3rd line pivot. Is this crazy thinking?

Colborne's roster spot poses a problem if they want him to have ice time. This evening shows me no evidence of this - 6:44 TOI - but we have injuries, and he was sandwiched between to expansion-level tough guys.

Some interesting decisions to come, when Cammy/Stajan/D.Jones return from sick bay.

As for Bouma now, I agree - he's be a competent 3rd line player on many teams.

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#38 everton fc
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I just watched the highlights. Looks like MacDonald gave the puck away a few times, but made clutch saves when he had to. Baertschi's pass to Mohanan - and with little time left in the game - clutch.

They seem to be a team.

Stempniak is a great guy to have on the roster with the young guys. I remember him having a huge, positive impact on Horak in the Roman's rookie season. I think they even roomed together for a time. He's the kind of pro who'll give the kids both confidence and cognisance. He definitely need to be resigned and retained, as part of the rebuild. Perhaps, another Yank who someday ends up in the organization after his playing days are over?

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#39 kittensandcookies
October 11 2013, 11:28PM
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Hartley basically admitted that the team had serious, serious locker room issues last year, FWIW.

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#40 lionlager
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Except every team had to go through what you described, minus the iggy contract. There's no denying it was a sinking ship last year near the end, and from the sounds of, it was a mess in there. If that's what players and coach are saying, why not believe them. Tangs jumped ship, and Comeau & Giordano really getting in each other's faces the other night was amazingly entertaining. It's safe to say things are healthier in the dressing room this year. Of course winning does fix everything as well...

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#41 prendrefeu
October 12 2013, 12:19AM
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Positivity.

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#42 gussey
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This comment may get laughed at, but if gio keeps playing this way, does he come into conversation for team canada (assuming he's canadian, I don't hosestly know)? I love the way this flames team is playing.

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#43 beloch
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That was a good breakdown of the goal over on fansided. Baertschi also deserves credit for staying cool and making a tricky pass. I love the chemistry that's developing between these two!

Monahan's sh% is going to regress. That's not in question. What's interesting is he had 16:31 TOI against NJ. Every single game Hartley has given Monahan more ice time. Despite the increased workload, Monahan finished with a positive scoring chance differential for the third game in a row (He was in the red for his first two games in the league). He is still very sheltered.

Few forwards play a lot more than 16 minutes per night, so Hartley will likely ramp up the difficulty of Monahan's minutes over the next few games. The results should prove very interesting.

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#44 coachedpotatoe
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I was originally quite leary of Monahan Sven on the same line but skilled players need to play with others of skill and they seem to have chemistry and this might be enough of a reason for Monahan staying up; although I believe his development would best occur here not in OHL. I watched both of these young men play in all three zones last night.

I was also quite impressed with the effort of both Bouma and Back's in the defensive zone when the team was struggling to get out. When forwards are blocking shots you know there is a sense of team. I heard the Monahan is living with Hudler again team building. Also Hudler is playing well in both ends. Way back when FN did it's how many points would the Flames get this year I suggested that they would start strong and tale off; I had no idea that they would start this well.

MacDonald in net? While I am not sure how playing him helps the rebuild I am growing to respect his effort and play; for the time being no more Mcbackup jokes from me, he's Joey the goalie from now on.

What happens when this team gets Stajan and Cammi back? I hope they have been watching and getting the chemistry thing. when they get back and all things being equal (no one else injured) I could see Hartley rolling 4 lines. He has been rolling three lines and giving the 4th line spot duty during this run. At this point in time I don't see any need to tinker with Back's and Monahan's (I believe I have fully moved into the he needs to stay up camp)so that means we need to balance the other two lines. In all likely hood Stajan plays with Glencross and Street goes and plays with Cammi, the question becomes who are the wingers Bouma would give Glencross and Stajan a real physical presence and Galiradi would give Cammi and Street so added speed. I believe that to this point that Street has been better than Colborne.

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#45 coachedpotatoe
October 12 2013, 08:48AM
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I see the Heat won last night 3-2, Hankowski scored again, Knight had two assists. Berra played in net. Sieloff sat. Grandlund did not play as well (is he still injured and what is the nature of said injury.) Do we have anyone in FN that goes to the Heat games? During this rebuild we need to know what is going on in the farm and with our Junior and NCAA prospects. The current Flames run is exciting but must be tempered with the idea that this might not be sustainable although I love the way they are playing as a team.

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#46 seve927
October 12 2013, 09:02AM
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Ryan Pike wrote:

Last year they had no real training camp to bring in new systems.
Last year a few guys came in a bit heavy compared to where they would have wanted them to come in at.
Last year due to the lockout, the teams couldn't really communicate with players during the off-season to check in.
Last year a few guys may have been distracted because of the lockout.
Last year a few guys may have been distracted because of the contract status of Iginla.

"Locker room problems" is an over-simplification. There were a lot of factors that, combined together, caused last year to be what last year was.

But last year was the same as many years previous.

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#47 Jeff In Lethbridge
October 12 2013, 09:26AM
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Wow, was Iginla that much of an anchor/poison in the dressing room for this Club the previous 2-3 seasons...I knew he wasn't helping the team but was it that detrimental? Fascinating stuff.

My feeling with Jarome: He didn't buy into the coaches systems, played the style and way he felt he should and guys like Tanguay followed his lead.

Like most of Calgary, Iggy will always be a local star in my eyes and gets the keys to the city, but he was a bad influence to the younger guys and as the captain created a scenario where teammates either followed his lead or followed the coaching staff.

On top of this - Jarome regressed over the last several years to much more of a one-dimensional player who waited for cherry passes by the blue line and rarely back-checked into the defensive zone.

The real evidence and final straw for me was the time when the coach said in an interview that everyone, even the stars, needed to play the system and needed to be defensively responsible, only to interview Jarome right after and have him say that he felt his role was to create offense first. ouch! eye opening!

Love Iggy but it was best for both to move on.

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#48 Vowswithin
October 12 2013, 09:42AM
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Monahan has a SH% of 30.8. Sustainable.

Ugh why can't it be 12% :( something more reasonable... Well I'm going to enjoy this run while it is going because wins may become much harder to come by when not on a roll like this.

What's the team PDO now?

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#49 ChinookArch
October 12 2013, 09:57AM
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I watched Monahan closely for most of the game, and regardless of where you fall in the stay or send debate, we can agree on one thing he is a really good player.

Positional sound play, calm and steady hands, head up all the time, uses his line mates well. I won't be disappointed if they keep him up.

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#50 theCalgaryJames
October 12 2013, 11:09AM
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I don't think it's been talked about enough but Baertschi's attention to a 200ft game has been really impressive these last few games. He enters the D-zone with his head on a swivel and seems to have really taken Burke's comments to heart.

It's fun watching Baertschi play with Monahan the two seem to know where the other will be and Stepper on that line really helps anchor those two. It's only 5 games and I'm still not expecting a playoff team here but I like this team. I like them more than I've liked any flames team in a very long time.

As to Monahan, I think the conversation of whether he should stay or not is a moot point at this stage. He's not going anywhere. Peter Maher said as much last night on overtime and I'm inclined to agree. ELC be damned the kid's earned his graduation. Nothing to be gained from the OHL.

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