Post-Game: Flames Crown Kings 3-2

Ryan Pike
October 21 2013 11:44PM

Smarting from a pair of losses in two earlier games in California, the Flames headed back south to Los Angeles hoping that the City of Angels would finally give them a better ending than their games with Anaheim or San Jose. And moreover, the team's coaching staff probably hoped for a better effort level from their club, especially after recalling a pair of new bodies hoping to get into the line-up.

Oh, and Mike Cammalleri joined the Flames for this game. That may be important later...

THE RUNDOWN

Pretty even first period. Not a high event period, as we saw a lot of broken plays and mis-timed rushes on either side. A few decent chances for the Kings and a few for the Flames, but generally nothing that amounted to much five-on-five. Curtis Glencross and Lee Stempniak had minor penalties. While the Flames managed to kill off Glencross' snafu, they left Drew Doughty alone at the point briefly on the Stempniak kill and gave up a power-play goal to put the Kings up 1-0. Not only was it yet another power-play goal, it was yet another goal late in a period. The Flames were out-shot 8-4, out-Corsied 20-9 and out-chanced 5-3 in the first period.

The second period was much more eventful. This time, the Flames managed to kill their only penalty. But the Kings got into penalty trouble, something which factored in on all three goals in the period. After Kyle Clifford took a penalty for holding, the Flames capitalized. Mark Giordano took the puck into the Kings zone and ate a shoulder-check from Matt Greene, but he shuffled the puck over to Jir Hudler, wh fed Mike Cammalleri for his patented one-timer to tie the game at 1-apiece.

The Kings pressed mid-way through the period, including on a power-play, but Karri Ramo made two gorgeous saves that caused Rob Kerr to lose his mind on commentary. One was on a Justin Williams partial break-away on the power-play, the other was on a one-timer attempt that Ramo stone-walled. Shortly after that save, the Kings took another penalty and the Flames responded once again. This time, it was a beautiful tic-tac-toe passing play involving Jiri Hudler, Mark Giordano, Mike Cammalleri and, what do ya know, Sean Monahan. Monahan got his sixth goal of his young career, and presumably called his real estate agent when he got to the bench.

But the Kings took another penalty late, which led to a short-handed marker for the Kings. Long story short: Jeff Carter smartly fore-checked and took advantage of some loosey-goosey defensive-zone play by the Flames, whipping a turnover towards the Flames net. It either went off Mike Richards or Dennis Wideman and in, but either way, the game was tied at 2-apiece. And yes, once again, the Flames gave up a goal late in a period – this time negating a lead on the road. The Flames and Kings both had 11 shots on net in the second. The Flames were narrowly out-Corsied the Kings 20-16 and out-chanced them 7-6.

It was a back and forth third period for basically the entire period. There were no penalty calls, including Dan Carillo bonking into Karri Ramo in front of his net. Finally, the Flames pressed and Anze Kopitar took a neutral zone penalty on Dennis Wideman. Tie game, third period, late power-play on the road, and the Flames capitalized. Curtis Glencross and Jiri Hudler battled down low and fed the puck out to T.J. Brodie at the point, who fired the puck past Jonathan Quick to give the Flames a 3-2 lead, and that's how it ended. All three periods had late goals, but the Flames came away with two points. The Flames and Kings each had 10 shots on net in the third, while the Flames had an edge in third period Corsi at 22-18.

WHY THE FLAMES WON

First-off, Karri Ramo was fantastic, even when the Flames played fire drill in their own end or the puck took weird bounces, both of which happened quite a bit.

Secondly, the Flames were opportunistic with the extra man, scoring three power-play goals and leaning heavily on Mike Cammalleri's face-off prowess on the PP.

Finally, the Kings weren't great tonight. They had chances to put the Flames down and either failed to do so or just didn't try to. Case in point, look at the power-plays and blocked shots – the Flames scored three goals on seven power-play shots AND had 17 blocked shots on the night. The Kings? One goal on three shots and only nine blocks. Even when you account for the difference in power-plays (Calgary had six, the Kings three), the Kings really should have been closer to even on blocks if they were having a good game.

FLAME(S) OF THE GAME

I'm declaring a tie!

Mike Cammalleri returned and, in his first actual hockey game this season, had a goal and an assist. He played 16:33 and was the only Flames player to win a lot of face-offs, particuarly key offensive draws on the power-play.

And Karri Ramo was excellent, making many key saves – including a pair of beauties in the second – and generally using his pads and athleticism to cover up several Flames defensive zone blemishes.

SCORING CHANCES

# Player EV     PP     SH    
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 16:58 7 7 02:01 1 0 01:59 0 1
5 GIORDANO, MARK 18:18 4 6 06:29 5 0 03:45 0 1
6 WIDEMAN, DENNIS 18:09 4 6 07:28 5 0 03:45 0 1
7 BRODIE, TJ 16:41 5 6 03:00 1 0 00:00 0 0
8 COLBORNE, JOE 10:22 5 5 01:54 0 0 00:00 0 0
11 BACKLUND, MIKAEL 15:08 1 4 00:07 0 0 02:17 0 1
13 CAMMALLERI, MIKE 10:04 5 6 06:29 5 0 00:00 0 0
17 BOUMA, LANCE 04:10 1 1 00:00 0 0 02:42 0 0
20 GLENCROSS, CURTIS 15:42 1 2 03:14 1 0 00:00 0 0
22 STEMPNIAK, LEE 12:18 6 6 03:00 1 0 01:03 0 0
23 MONAHAN, SEAN 15:02 4 4 06:00 5 0 00:09 0 0
24 HUDLER, JIRI 15:58 5 6 07:28 6 0 00:09 0 0
31 RAMO, KARRI   11 14   6 0   0 2
38 STREET, BEN 03:17 1 1 00:00 0 0 02:52 0 1
39 GALIARDI, TJ 15:21 1 2 00:00 0 0 02:16 0 2
44 BUTLER, CHRIS 10:57 2 2 00:00 0 0 01:59 0 1
47 BAERTSCHI, SVEN 14:17 3 5 00:15 0 0 00:00 0 0
55 O'BRIEN, SHANE 08:31 0 1 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 3 5 3 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
2 7 6 5 5 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
3 7 5 3 5 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

SUM IT UP

The Flames improve their record to 4-2-2 on the year and finally puck up a deuce in California, the bane of their existance. They're back at it tomorrow evening in Phoenix, facing the Coyotes. The puck drops at 8pm MT and you can catch the game on Sportsnet TV, the Fan 960 radio and, of course, right here.

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Now in his fourth season covering the Calgary Flames and the NHL, Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's trying to keep his head up, his stick on the ice and is giving it 110% every shift. You can also find his work at The Hockey Writers and the Wrestling Observer.
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#1 Justin Azevedo
October 22 2013, 01:14AM
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man ramo is so much better than macdonald hahahahah

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#2 Pat Steinberg
October 22 2013, 01:58AM
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man ramo is so much better than macdonald hahahahah

0.948 even strength save percentage now for Ramo.

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#3 Vowswithin
October 22 2013, 12:20AM
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Lots of great positives in this game, won against a tough team, Kari ramo was really good, Monahan wtf? Beast... 20+ min, cami came back got 1-1-2 Brodie with the gwg. Sven is looking really good, stil small sample and early but this teams attitude is night and day different from last x years.

They are keeping it entertaining, couldn't ask for more.

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#4 Burnward
October 22 2013, 05:15AM
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Ummm, is there actually a chance we might have a decent hockey team on our hands?

When Stajan gets back, this club becomes pretty darn deep.

What a difference having a center that can score can make.

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#5 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
October 22 2013, 01:57AM
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That Monahan guy sure finds himself at the right spot at the right time a lot. I think they call that Spidey sense or something.

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#6 Lober
October 21 2013, 11:54PM
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I like Brodie :)

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#7 lionlager
October 21 2013, 11:57PM
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Ramo was a beast. Definitely a satisfying win. Hope Cammy keeps getting those points. Still think we might get a 1st for him.

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#8 jeremywilhelm
October 22 2013, 01:13AM
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Sven is not generating any shots on net. Kid seriously needs to pick up this portion of his game.

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#9 beloch
October 22 2013, 04:07AM
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It will be interesting to see the stats back me up, but it seems like Monahan is facing tougher competition in addition to getting more ice-time... and killing it!

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#10 Parallex
October 22 2013, 10:51AM
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@Jeff In Lethbridge

McGrattan is less then useless. He can't do anything at an NHL level... he can't shoot well, can't pass well, he's slow as molassis out there. Perhaps worst of all, even though I don't subscribe to any validity for the ideology of the Cult of the Goon... he doesn't even do that well. Seriously Carcillo elbows Hudler behind the play (no whistle) and McGrattan does nothing, later Carcillo runs into Ramo (again no whistle) and McGrattan does nothing. As far as "deterrents" go that seems more like water-balloon then nuclear level.

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#11 TRAV
October 22 2013, 09:30AM
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It's early, very early....

It is interesting though that with team playing well harsh criticism of Feaster seems to have quieted down. Wasn't all that long ago that you couldn't read a post without,"smartest guy in the room" slamming all over the posts.

Hudler and Wideman pickups seem solid and am so impressed with their drafting so far.

Biggest change this year has been compete level. Gotta give much of that credit to Hartley who has hem playing well and Feaster for putting guys in the room who care.

Where has Glencross been?

Report said lots of Scouts in the stands. Is there a trade in the works? With Stajan coming off IR soon we need some space. Likely Street sent down...

Wouldn't have minded a fourth for Jackman that Oilers picked up for Brown..

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#12 the-wolf
October 22 2013, 11:02AM
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Kevin R wrote:

Basically what I said in another thread. Having both Jackman & McGratton doesn't make sense & this roster is getting crowded as players get back from injury. I see Bouma having the type of game we got to love from Jackman years ago but agree, age is creeping up on these type of players. That style of play really takes it's toll on the player. If Edm can get a 4th for Brown, we can get a 3rd for Jackman :} Make it happen Burkie/Feasty.

I'll take a 4th line with Horak, Knight and Boum aon it before Jackman and McG.

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#13 PrairieStew
October 22 2013, 03:38AM
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Butler's best game in a while. Wideman filled in for him though, overpursued on the pk, coughed the puck up in his own zone and on the power play at the point.

Ramo had help from the post a couple of times but we'll take it. 6 PP scoring chances, Hudler on ice for all of them, he's been brilliant.

Great to see Cammy hit the scoresheet right away, Glencross slightly better. Good signs all around.

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#14 piscera.infada
October 22 2013, 08:10AM
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"it cant be long before Monahan starts to get serious attention from outside media and defensive coverage."

I think that's a bit of a misunderstanding. While he's been able to get away with matchups at home due to last change, he's been having difficult assignments during this trip. That's why it's so interesting (to me) that he's been able to play pretty damn well. For instance, he drew in against some pretty damn good players in San Jose, and held his own for most of the night. Last night, he was up against a line that effectively shut down the Sedin's two years ago in the playoffs. You have to keep in mind, that regardless of the line 'numbers', this is the Flames best line this year (Hudler's on fire, Monahan's on fire, and Baertschi is getting going) - so I think we've seen defensive coverage already (and I'm not sure how much it ramps up).

One of the most promising parts of Monahan's scouting reports in regards to his offense is that he's far from a one trick pony. We've seen evidence of that so far. He's just knows how to get to the right places, away from coverage, at the right time - that bodes well for him, because he's hard to cover. Sure, he wont dangle around you, but he's just so positionally sound that it's hard to gameplan a guy like that.

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#15 Jeff In Lethbridge
October 22 2013, 07:27AM
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the team ddid an excelent job of forcing the pace and enduring the sutter style of pounding hockey.

will be interesting to see if the energy can stay that high tonight on the second half of the back to back.

GlenX seems frustrated. Coulburn looking slightly better each game.

it cant be long before Monahan starts to get serious attention from outside media and defensive coverage.

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#16 Parallex
October 22 2013, 11:23AM
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"we are not talking about a 10-12 minute per night guy, but a 3-4 minute face puncher, deterant"

I don't care how few minutes he plays... I'd rather have an actual decent hockey player play those 3-4 minutes. Seriously, if McGrattan's job is to be a "deterrent" then he does a lousy job.

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#17 kittensandcookies
October 22 2013, 12:37PM
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No way, Monahan is going to get 60 goals this year. Because HE ROCKS!

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#18 Vowswithin
October 22 2013, 12:31AM
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Also power play improved and we were pretty close in shots, Corsi and chances against a serious playoff contender.

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#19 Burnward
October 22 2013, 03:18AM
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Sidney sense? Activated by constant chewing of a mouth guard?

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#20 Jeff In Lethbridge
October 22 2013, 10:17AM
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everton fc wrote:

I didn't see the game, but based on ice time, we basically went with three lines.

Street looks ready for re-assignment once Stajan returns. Unlesss they waive Jackman... Or McGrattan, the latter highly unlikely.

it seems, based on actions, that the Flames have made a commitment to having the big face puncher around - assume this is to keep the developing rookies safe.

OK, I get this (that some GM's and coaches believe in this strategy)- but to date they are trying to play him like a real skater... heavy hitting but not really throwing his weight around, and not punching any faces.

Old school "nuclear deterrent" thinking. I really don't care that much, whatever...

On the other hand, Jackman, whom I've liked a lot over the years, seems to not only be redundant then, but also seems to be losing a step and really isn't playing as well in the 4th line role as he has in years past.

If we are going to keep a king-kong around for the 4th line who plays 3ish minutes a night, maybe pair him up with some younger, faster guys who can skate and hit and be defensively dependable?

Hate to say it, but if we keep only one of these guys(which is the most i would recommend, and would actually suggest something less then one is better)then i say keep McGratton, and condemn Jackman to minor-league bus riding purgatory. Jackman is slowing down, seems hesitant to fight anymore, and is not, by any stretch of the imagination,a nuclear deterrent.

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#21 the-wolf
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piscera.infada wrote:

"it cant be long before Monahan starts to get serious attention from outside media and defensive coverage."

I think that's a bit of a misunderstanding. While he's been able to get away with matchups at home due to last change, he's been having difficult assignments during this trip. That's why it's so interesting (to me) that he's been able to play pretty damn well. For instance, he drew in against some pretty damn good players in San Jose, and held his own for most of the night. Last night, he was up against a line that effectively shut down the Sedin's two years ago in the playoffs. You have to keep in mind, that regardless of the line 'numbers', this is the Flames best line this year (Hudler's on fire, Monahan's on fire, and Baertschi is getting going) - so I think we've seen defensive coverage already (and I'm not sure how much it ramps up).

One of the most promising parts of Monahan's scouting reports in regards to his offense is that he's far from a one trick pony. We've seen evidence of that so far. He's just knows how to get to the right places, away from coverage, at the right time - that bodes well for him, because he's hard to cover. Sure, he wont dangle around you, but he's just so positionally sound that it's hard to gameplan a guy like that.

I think it works both ways. Monahan has done well against everyone he's faced, but individual players will start paying him more attention as time goes on which will in itself be interesting to see how he responds. So far, so awesome. I was having visions of him doing this next year, but the kid continually makes me eat my words. He's literally a year beyond where I thought he'd be. Hoping he doesn't hit a wall because I'm highly doubting Calgary sends him back to junior now.

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#22 Jeff In Lethbridge
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Parallex wrote:

McGrattan is less then useless. He can't do anything at an NHL level... he can't shoot well, can't pass well, he's slow as molassis out there. Perhaps worst of all, even though I don't subscribe to any validity for the ideology of the Cult of the Goon... he doesn't even do that well. Seriously Carcillo elbows Hudler behind the play (no whistle) and McGrattan does nothing, later Carcillo runs into Ramo (again no whistle) and McGrattan does nothing. As far as "deterrents" go that seems more like water-balloon then nuclear level.

McGratton is a better face puncher then Jackman, right? or, more people would rather not have mcgratton punching then vs jackman punching them.

so to say he is less then useless at this is in my opinion not accurate.

we are not talking about a 10-12 minute per night guy, but a 3-4 minute face puncher, deterant.

As for not fighting carcillo; fighting carcillo may have played into the kings favor... maybe. refs needed to call these things - not sure why they didn't.

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#23 vowswithin
October 22 2013, 01:27AM
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Damn right he is, so now he gets like 5 games right? win a game and make "a bunch of highlight reel saves" that means you get lots of games?

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#24 Maimster
October 22 2013, 07:26AM
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Ha ha. McGratten so low event he didn't even make your summary list!

This is the most enjoyable Flames team to watch in three years. May not be too good in the end (even with all the special teams, basically have three lines) but fun to watch. And Ramo will steal a game or two this year.

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#25 mk
October 22 2013, 09:30AM
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It would be lovely, wouldn't it? I still doubt this is a playoff team, but I can see a 22-26 place finish. Probably not a lottery team, but won't contend down the stretch.

I think the team goal should be to develop young players and finish ahead of the Oilers. :D

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#26 Kevin R
October 22 2013, 10:56AM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

it seems, based on actions, that the Flames have made a commitment to having the big face puncher around - assume this is to keep the developing rookies safe.

OK, I get this (that some GM's and coaches believe in this strategy)- but to date they are trying to play him like a real skater... heavy hitting but not really throwing his weight around, and not punching any faces.

Old school "nuclear deterrent" thinking. I really don't care that much, whatever...

On the other hand, Jackman, whom I've liked a lot over the years, seems to not only be redundant then, but also seems to be losing a step and really isn't playing as well in the 4th line role as he has in years past.

If we are going to keep a king-kong around for the 4th line who plays 3ish minutes a night, maybe pair him up with some younger, faster guys who can skate and hit and be defensively dependable?

Hate to say it, but if we keep only one of these guys(which is the most i would recommend, and would actually suggest something less then one is better)then i say keep McGratton, and condemn Jackman to minor-league bus riding purgatory. Jackman is slowing down, seems hesitant to fight anymore, and is not, by any stretch of the imagination,a nuclear deterrent.

Basically what I said in another thread. Having both Jackman & McGratton doesn't make sense & this roster is getting crowded as players get back from injury. I see Bouma having the type of game we got to love from Jackman years ago but agree, age is creeping up on these type of players. That style of play really takes it's toll on the player. If Edm can get a 4th for Brown, we can get a 3rd for Jackman :} Make it happen Burkie/Feasty.

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#27 Kevin R
October 22 2013, 11:00AM
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Parallex wrote:

McGrattan is less then useless. He can't do anything at an NHL level... he can't shoot well, can't pass well, he's slow as molassis out there. Perhaps worst of all, even though I don't subscribe to any validity for the ideology of the Cult of the Goon... he doesn't even do that well. Seriously Carcillo elbows Hudler behind the play (no whistle) and McGrattan does nothing, later Carcillo runs into Ramo (again no whistle) and McGrattan does nothing. As far as "deterrents" go that seems more like water-balloon then nuclear level.

McGratton is a nuclear deterrent compared to Jackman, that's the point. Now no one is saying that if Jackman doesn't do the job, sit a game or 2 & let him get cranky having to pick out popcorn kernels out of his teeth & punch someone out for the inconvenience & aggravation. Point is, we don't need both in the lineup at the same time.

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#28 Kevin R
October 22 2013, 11:05AM
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I'll take a 4th line with Horak, Knight and Boum aon it before Jackman and McG.

Yeah on several nights I agree but there are teams Horak sits & McGratton rides shotgun.

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#29 piscera.infada
October 22 2013, 11:40AM
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I think it works both ways. Monahan has done well against everyone he's faced, but individual players will start paying him more attention as time goes on which will in itself be interesting to see how he responds. So far, so awesome. I was having visions of him doing this next year, but the kid continually makes me eat my words. He's literally a year beyond where I thought he'd be. Hoping he doesn't hit a wall because I'm highly doubting Calgary sends him back to junior now.

Oh for sure, players will undoubtedly pay more attention to him. I also think he will, and should hit a wall. He needs to know that nothing is going to be given to him by other teams, that's starting to become something I worry about if they send him down. What if he continues his lightning pace tonight, they send him down, and he picks up where he left off in O? Could he just think his offense is always going to click at that level?

I think the kid has enough of a brain on him to realize that he's going to come to a point this year, where he'll feel like he's skating in molasses against the big boys. This will be his biggest chance to grow, in my opinion. If he is really going to be that legit, top-teir guy he's shown flashes of, he's going to have to learn to get himself out of slumps.

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#30 the forgotten man
October 22 2013, 01:13PM
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It would be nice to parlay Cammie and GlenX into a higher first round pick next year...hopefully both of them have a decent season and then we can jettison them - nice to draft one more stud defenceman to supplement Brodie, Giordano, Wideman and Sieloff (hopefully he will make next years roster)...then you have a decent top 5 defence corps.

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#31 everton fc
October 22 2013, 09:30AM
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I didn't see the game, but based on ice time, we basically went with three lines.

Street looks ready for re-assignment once Stajan returns. Unlesss they waive Jackman... Or McGrattan, the latter highly unlikely.

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#32 palooza
October 22 2013, 09:49AM
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I'm really enjoying the speed of these games this year.

Using the middle of the ice on their breakouts has been very effective I just seem to be cringing a lot though because it's not going to long before someone gets hammered once opposing dmen start stepping up more.

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#33 Kevin R
October 22 2013, 11:03AM
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Sorry I meant if McGratton doesn't do the job sit him. :(

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#34 A rye morning
October 22 2013, 05:18PM
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