Flames send Tim Jackman to Ducks for a pick

Ryan Pike
November 21 2013 05:18PM

Tim Jackman

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The Calgary Flames made a minor roster tweak today, sending oft-scratched veteran winger Tim Jackman to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a sixth round pick in the upcoming 2014 NHL Draft.

Originally acquired as a free agent, Jackman was the odd man out in the fourth line group, particular with the emergence of Lance Bouma this season.

The Flames recalled (Go) Blair Jones from Abbotsford to fill Jackman's roster spot. Jones has been on a scoring tear with the Heat this season.

The trade also gives the Flames 46 active pro contracts, or four to add before the end of the year.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#1 Colin.S
November 21 2013, 06:41PM
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First, this is one of the dumbest things I've read today:

https://twitter.com/SUNRandySportak/status/403672658836877312

Blair Jones shouldn't worry so much about goals/points, but should be worried about the "grit chart" aspect of his game????? WHY!?!?!? The flames at this point could use all the offense they can find.

Second, Backlund is traded in the next two weeks. B. Jones is a center, and in the delusional nature of this organization is your more traditional fourth line center than Backlund is. And with Hartley's extreme dislike of Backlund won't surprise me to see him gone very soon. I'm gonna guess that it's going to Backlund and more involved in a trade, because of how this org has used Backlund his trade value is pretty well non exsistant.

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#2 Dr. Philosophy
November 22 2013, 02:50AM
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Jackman can't play hockey. McG can't play hockey. Blah blah blah.

Both these dudes can play hockey. Both of them can play it hard and fast. Despite what your QOC, ZS, Corsi, stats or other BS says they can both play it at an NHL level.

But having two guys who can kick ass and skate is redundant, as is generally acknowledged.

I like Jackman as much as I can like him without having actually met him. (Dear Tim: let's have a beer. Promise I won't try to fight you.) I like Jackman as a result of a continuous and holistic appraisal of his play since he got here, both for B Sutter as well as for Harley. Hell, who else is the self-professed voodoo of R. Luongo? I'll continue to cheer for him, like I continue to cheer for Iggy, Reggy, Stralman, Johnson, D. Sutter, Pelech, and other former Flames who, IMHO, play the game hard and fast.

Is Jackman by and large done in the League? Probably. So this is a good move for Feaster. Is he going to play a very limited role in Anaheim? Probaably, so this is a good move for the Mighty Ducks, and whomever is taking credit for Perry and Getzlaf these days.

Finally, B. Jones deserves sweet F all, and I hope he is treated that way--on a par with the rest of the team.

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#3 Colin.S
November 21 2013, 08:28PM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

I don't quite get how everyone jumps from Jackman trade to Backlund trade

Because they are calling up another center, and one that fills a role the organization they think it needs. Also earlier in the season they didn't call up guys like Jones and Knight even though they are probably the best forwards on the Heat, but instead they called up Reinhart who was a winger because it was wingers they needed. But with 4 healthy centers on the flames, well either one is moving or one is moving to the wing. So maybe a trade of Backlund is hasty, could just be Baertschi being send to the Heat to, and then someone sent to the wing. Or maybe McGratton will be kept out of the lineup....... LOL

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#4 Kent Wilson
November 21 2013, 09:36PM
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@Garcia129

Probably Berra.

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#5 Colin.S
November 21 2013, 09:10PM
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coachedpotatoe wrote:

BJones has played all season on the wing for the Heat.

News to me if he's been playing the wing, before this season he's played center the whole time, more reason to think that someone else is coming out of the line. And if he's been playing wing, left or right? Bouma's not coming out of the lineup, and they wouldn't bench the golden face puncher would they?

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#6 EugeneV
November 21 2013, 11:34PM
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RexLibris wrote:

Brayden Schenn was recently listed as the name being offered by Holmgren when he asked about Jordan Eberle.

I suspect a trade for Schenn would require more than Backlund. Baertschi might be closer to the asking price, but yes, he would be a good addition down the middle for this team.

What about:

Cammaleri, Butler & Baertschi (or Backlund) for B. Schenn, S Morin (or Couturier) & Meszaros

We would need to pay 1/2 Cammaleris salary to make it work for the Flyers to see the benefit of getting some cap space and letting us have 2 of their top young guys.

Schenn is an actual top 6 player in the future plus a 19 yr old 6'6" Dman in Morin.

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#7 please cancel acct
November 21 2013, 07:24PM
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If the Flames trade Backlund as a lot of posts suggest ,they better get something real special for him. If they have been treating him poorly in order to patronize that move, it would be a move that would fail with many fans.

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#8 SmellOfVictory
November 21 2013, 07:55PM
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Woohoo! Seeya, Jackman! Don't butt-end our players, though, please.

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#9 Kent Wilson
November 21 2013, 09:36PM
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@Garcia129

Probably Berra.

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#10 RexLibris
November 21 2013, 09:51PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

6th for Tim Jackman, who looks like he is completely finished this year? Nice work Jay.

I'd have thought the Flames could get more for him if they'd waited.

Brown got back a 4th round pick and I'm not convinced there is that significant a difference between them.

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#11 T&A4Flames
November 21 2013, 08:31PM
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Colin.S wrote:

First, this is one of the dumbest things I've read today:

https://twitter.com/SUNRandySportak/status/403672658836877312

Blair Jones shouldn't worry so much about goals/points, but should be worried about the "grit chart" aspect of his game????? WHY!?!?!? The flames at this point could use all the offense they can find.

Second, Backlund is traded in the next two weeks. B. Jones is a center, and in the delusional nature of this organization is your more traditional fourth line center than Backlund is. And with Hartley's extreme dislike of Backlund won't surprise me to see him gone very soon. I'm gonna guess that it's going to Backlund and more involved in a trade, because of how this org has used Backlund his trade value is pretty well non exsistant.

Jones has been playing wing in Abey and Conroy thinks he's better in that position.

I won't argue that Backs could be part of a trade. To start the season I would have said no way. But, his offence isn't coming around under Hartley. We all know he suffers with confidence issues and I don't think Hartley's approach is appropriate. The organization likely feels they have more in the system that can fill his role.

That pisses me off. One of our only home grown talents and our managers failed to bring him to his full potential thus far.

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#12 Kent Wilson
November 21 2013, 09:33PM
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@Garcia129

Probably Berra.

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#13 ChinookArch
November 21 2013, 05:24PM
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Good luck Tim, It was nice know'n ya!

The fact that Jay Feaster got anything back for Jackman needs to be commended. The move also frees up a contract and gives the team more room to sign other players to the roster. Who knows something else might be brewing?

Now let's see if B. Jones will be a permanent fixture in the press box, or if Hartley will actually dress him.

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#14 Lober
November 21 2013, 07:26PM
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#15 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 21 2013, 07:36PM
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I don't quite get how everyone jumps from Jackman trade to Backlund trade

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#16 wineeditor
November 21 2013, 07:47PM
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Sven vs Hartley

Since his last benching only 3 wingers on the Flames have played more minutes. I am not sure how much more ice time Hartley can give him given the play of Hudler and Cammy over that time. Remember all of the games were close with the exception of Dallas. Stempniak is the third winger who has played more than Sven but does he do enough while not scoring to earn the extra 3 minutes per game? Or when will his next hot streak start?

Dallas was the lone blow out over this period and Sven played more minutes in that game than any other Flame winger.

WRT to Jones/Backlund as a winger I guess they could take time from Galiardi or Jones (who has picked up a goal and 2 assists in the past 6 games) but that would be a bit of a gamble with the Ducks, Hawks and Kings being 3 of our next 4 games. Maybe Galaridi sits a bit?

Conclusion? None really except that I think Sven has responded quite well since the benching and Hartley has lived up to his end of the bargain by playing him significant (though not power play) minutes.

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#17 Kent Wilson
November 21 2013, 07:59PM
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6th for Tim Jackman, who looks like he is completely finished this year? Nice work Jay.

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#18 ?
November 21 2013, 08:29PM
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1) Good move

2) About damn time (jones being recalled)

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#19 coachedpotatoe
November 21 2013, 08:35PM
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Colin.S wrote:

Because they are calling up another center, and one that fills a role the organization they think it needs. Also earlier in the season they didn't call up guys like Jones and Knight even though they are probably the best forwards on the Heat, but instead they called up Reinhart who was a winger because it was wingers they needed. But with 4 healthy centers on the flames, well either one is moving or one is moving to the wing. So maybe a trade of Backlund is hasty, could just be Baertschi being send to the Heat to, and then someone sent to the wing. Or maybe McGratton will be kept out of the lineup....... LOL

BJones has played all season on the wing for the Heat.

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#20 mk
November 21 2013, 09:19PM
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Southern_Point wrote:

Jones has allegedly been playing wing in Abbottsford flanking Ben Street so I suspect that's where he will play for the big club.

If I was the coach I might try Backlund out on the wing for a time. Just to free him up from the extra defensive responsibilities of a centre for a while with the eye on moving him back after a few games.

It seems strange though to convert 1 of the 3 centres that are actually (somewhat) effective. Stajan/Backlund/Monahan are the top 3 centres for this team and should be playing that way. I think Colbourne would benefit more from a switch to the wing...

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#21 Burnward
November 21 2013, 09:37PM
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Re: Backlund move

If Kypreos isn't just filling air-time and Brayden Schenn is actually on the block, that's the guy we go after using Mickis+ as bait.

That would be awesome.

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#22 Double Dion
November 22 2013, 01:23AM
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RexLibris wrote:

Gardiner would be a heck of a pickup. Adding him to Brodie, Giordano, and Smid is the beginning of a much-improved defensive core.

But I suspect this is Burke pushing this move and I'm not sure what the cost would be. Of course Backlund's name is going to come up in these rumours, but what other options do you think Nonis might suggest?

Smid is at best a 5 for us Rex. Russell, Wideman, Giordano and Brodie are very clearly better than him. Smid fills the Sarich role better than Sarich did, but is by no means a highly productive NHLer. I have been very unimpressed with his footspeed. The names I'm thinking that could be dangled are Backlund and Bartschi. I tend to believe we'd be adding to Backlund or getting extra for Bartschi. It's pretty clear that when Burke mentioned he didn't like one of our players he was talking about one of those two.

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#23 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 21 2013, 06:04PM
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isn't Blair Jones the guy hartley has a hate-on for?

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#24 kypreos
November 21 2013, 06:04PM
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Jackman has not been good this year.

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#25 mk
November 21 2013, 06:27PM
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Who is making the shift to wing then? B.Jones, Backlund or Colbourne are the probably suspects for a switch. Stajan & Monahan probably won't. Unless one of these regular centres is moving elsewhere?

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#26 Southern_Point
November 21 2013, 06:43PM
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@mk

Jones has allegedly been playing wing in Abbottsford flanking Ben Street so I suspect that's where he will play for the big club.

If I was the coach I might try Backlund out on the wing for a time. Just to free him up from the extra defensive responsibilities of a centre for a while with the eye on moving him back after a few games.

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#27 RKD
November 21 2013, 06:56PM
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Not surprised, Jackman was expendable plus Feaster said he and Hartley were not on the same page like Tim was with Brent Sutter. McGrattan is signed all the until the end of next season. Jones has been on a tear, I like what he brings to the Flames. I'm also interested in seeing if they bring up Corban Knight at some point this season.

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#28 Lober
November 21 2013, 07:22PM
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I might be dreaming but I think Feaster has actually made a lot of good moves this year hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Sure nothing huge but lots of minor deals that I have been on board with

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#29 Lober
November 21 2013, 07:26PM
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Don't know why my comment was put 3 times over, my bad.

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#30 RexLibris
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Burnward wrote:

Re: Backlund move

If Kypreos isn't just filling air-time and Brayden Schenn is actually on the block, that's the guy we go after using Mickis+ as bait.

That would be awesome.

Brayden Schenn was recently listed as the name being offered by Holmgren when he asked about Jordan Eberle.

I suspect a trade for Schenn would require more than Backlund. Baertschi might be closer to the asking price, but yes, he would be a good addition down the middle for this team.

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#31 John
November 21 2013, 10:37PM
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There's a rumor that we are talking with Toronto about Jake Gardiner. I'm not sure if he would help Calgary, although he has offensive talent, we also need someone who doesn't regularly screw up on the defensive end. Can he play both ends of the ice?

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#32 RexLibris
November 21 2013, 10:40PM
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@John

Gardiner would be a heck of a pickup. Adding him to Brodie, Giordano, and Smid is the beginning of a much-improved defensive core.

But I suspect this is Burke pushing this move and I'm not sure what the cost would be. Of course Backlund's name is going to come up in these rumours, but what other options do you think Nonis might suggest?

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#33 ChinookArch
November 22 2013, 07:01AM
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" B. Jones deserves sweet F all, and I hope he is treated that way--on a par with the rest of the team"

That's fine. On the other hand, if B. Jones is effective and driving the play, is strong in all 3 zones and is actually producing, then he also deserves more than the coaches wrath (personal or otherwise).

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#34 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 22 2013, 07:11AM
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@Dr. Philosophy

speaking of the way guys deserve to be treated

Ferrence jumped another guy last night... who didnt want to drop the gloves. its clear that he is trying to show leadership and teach the team of softies to be less afraid, but... when he gets whats coming to him it will be interesting. I hope the flames remember him when tbey next meet.

the way he is fighting guys who dont want to fight and dont even drop their gloves is ignorant. normally i am a believer in big guys picking on ppl their own size, but the way Ferrence has been punching unwilling combatents, Iwould have no problem with a real tough guy like McG. giving him a taste of his own medicine.

However, Ferrences cheap shot "leadership" may be helping as the powderpuffs are showing some jump and tenacity.

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#35 Scary Gary
November 21 2013, 07:52PM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

isn't Blair Jones the guy hartley has a hate-on for?

One must keep up appearances (regarding call-ups being earned)! I hope Jones gets more than three minutes of ice time.

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#36 JJ
November 21 2013, 08:17PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

6th for Tim Jackman, who looks like he is completely finished this year? Nice work Jay.

I actually read the headline as Flames send Tim Jackman to Ducks for a puck and wasn't that surprised. Props to Feaster. Jackman was one of my favorites when he first got here, but his game has really dropped off the past year or so

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#37 ???
November 21 2013, 09:10PM
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Flames site says Galiardi is scratched for tomorrow, so I'm guessing B Jones plays wing with Backlund and McG.

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#38 Garcia129
November 21 2013, 09:12PM
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Anyone know who will be starting tomorrow night against Florida? Both Ramo and Berra are available in my pool. Just need a goalie that plays tomorrow night.

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#39 beloch
November 21 2013, 09:51PM
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1. 69.0% of Jackman's starts were in the offensive zone, a full 5% more than those of anyone else on the team.
2. Only McGrattan and Shane O'Brian faced easier QoC.
3. His corsi-on was -18.97, which is ahead of only McG (and a couple of AHL call-ups who only played a game or two, including Roman Horak!).
4. Jackman took 3.8 minutes in penalties per 60 minutes played, which was a factor of two higher than anyone else on the team. The closest regular Flame to him was Lance Bouma, with 1.7 penalties minutes/60 min TOI. McG takes just 1.1 minutes in penalties per 60 minutes played! (Jackman and McG both have 2 fights this season, so Jackman was taking a lot of bad penalties.)

Only McGrattan gave Jackman a run for the Flames worst possession player so far this season. McG's corsi-on was worse (-22.69), but just 53.2% of his zone starts were in the offensive zone. Jackman was also clearly the most penalty-prone Flame out there by a large margin.

I've liked Jackman in the past. He was a real soldier and a decent fourth liner who was, historically, a cut above the average pugilist. Good times were had playing park-the-wookie-in-the-crease with him. However, it was clearly time for him to move on. Given that benching Jackman improves the Flames, getting anything back in trade for him is pretty amazing. Good job Feaster!

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#40 SmellOfVictory
November 21 2013, 10:41PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

6th for Tim Jackman, who looks like he is completely finished this year? Nice work Jay.

He's been really good with small trades, aside from PL3. Gained an awesome player in Russell for a mid-round pick, gained a potentially useful player in Colborne for a mid-round pick, gained picks for borderline useless/incredibly frustrating players in Coumeau and Jackman v2013.

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#41 Burnward
November 22 2013, 01:10AM
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@EugeneV

I think Philly would be crazy to do that.

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#42 Double Dion
November 22 2013, 01:25AM
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Even Holmgren wouldn't do that man. You have to give young talent to get it. We'd be paying Bartschi + for Schenn.

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#43 beloch
November 22 2013, 02:27AM
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@Double Dion

The Flames don't really have a third pair right now. They have a clear top 2 split across two pairings (Brodie and Wideman), a crappy third pairing defender (O'Brien or Smith), and three mid-rank defenders (Butler, Russel, and Smid) who are deployed with the top 2 depending on the situation.

Smid has played an average of 18:30 per game since coming to Calgary. The other "third-paring" defender (Smith or SOB) have averaged 10:26 per game over the same period. Smid is usually out whennever SOB or Smith is out there, but also gets played roughly half of the time with either Wideman or Brodie[1], and it seems like he's replacing Russel and Butler for defensive zone starts most (but not all) of the time. Hartley is playing Smid as a top-3 defender in the defensive zone.

Russel has averaged 24:00 TOI per game over the last 5 games. That's a pretty huge step forward for him, since he never averaged more than 15 minutes per night on the third pairing in previous seasons for the Blues and BJ's. He's faced tough competition this season, but has had the easiest zone starts of any Flames defender. Still, his on-ice Corsi is currently the highest of any D on the team. This is probably because he and Wideman have great chemistry in the offensive zone, but then Wideman plays extra minutes in the defensive zone while Russel sits.

Russel and Smid are very different players. Hartley clearly trusts Smid more in the defensive zone, but prefers to get Russel out with Wideman in the offensive zone. It'll be interesting to see if Smid will be moved around less once Giordano returns.

[1]Shiftchart

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#44 vowswithin
November 22 2013, 08:46AM
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Does anyone else find it incredible that in 2010-11 Jackman had 10 goals and 13 assists? His next seasons and lockout half season only managed to grab him 2g and 10a.

Nothing personal against Jackman, but he just wasn't the productive guy that he was when we first acquired him.

I wish he could have continued his productions while bringing the grit. Good luck in Anaheim looks like a great place to retire.

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#45 Citizen David
November 22 2013, 11:54AM
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EugeneV wrote:

What about:

Cammaleri, Butler & Baertschi (or Backlund) for B. Schenn, S Morin (or Couturier) & Meszaros

We would need to pay 1/2 Cammaleris salary to make it work for the Flyers to see the benefit of getting some cap space and letting us have 2 of their top young guys.

Schenn is an actual top 6 player in the future plus a 19 yr old 6'6" Dman in Morin.

If you're looking to trade with Philly, target Scott Laughton. Although he's probably untouchable. He'd be a great piece to add in a rebuild.

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#46 everton fc
November 22 2013, 12:49PM
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B. Jones has always played both wing and centre, the latter more than the fomer perhaps, but has always been available for both roles.

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#47 PrairieStew
November 22 2013, 12:58PM
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A 6th for Jackman, how about a 5th for Smith, a 4th for O'Brien, a 3rd for Butler, a 2nd for Stajan and a first for Cammalleri. Keep loading the Draft gun up, and you are bound to hit with a few. We know the top 5 defense guys and I want to see who among Breen, Cundari, Billins, Sieloff, Ramage and Wotherspoon can cut it, which is why I would move those 3 veteran guys sooner rather than later.

46 contracts, leaving room to sign Agostino, Arnold and Gaudreau as soon as the college season ends.

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#48 PrairieStew
November 22 2013, 12:58PM
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Double post

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#49 everton fc
November 22 2013, 01:07PM
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PrairieStew wrote:

A 6th for Jackman, how about a 5th for Smith, a 4th for O'Brien, a 3rd for Butler, a 2nd for Stajan and a first for Cammalleri. Keep loading the Draft gun up, and you are bound to hit with a few. We know the top 5 defense guys and I want to see who among Breen, Cundari, Billins, Sieloff, Ramage and Wotherspoon can cut it, which is why I would move those 3 veteran guys sooner rather than later.

46 contracts, leaving room to sign Agostino, Arnold and Gaudreau as soon as the college season ends.

Agreed. Sieloff seems very much a Burke-type player. And he's American! Ditto Ramage. I don't think Breen's a regular NHLer. Nor Cundari. And I wonder if Billins' ceiling is a lesser-version of Russell??

Wotherspoon... Any reports from Abby on his play this far?? Arnold may be a real darkhorse. A solid 3rd line player who can do things adequately on both sides of the ice. Here's hopin'!

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