FLames acquire Lane MacDermid AKA: Tim Jackman

Kent Wilson
November 22 2013 11:19AM

 

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Flames announced another minor trade today. This time they pick up 24-year old tough guy Lane MacDermid from Dallas in exchange for Calgary's 6th round pick. MacDermid was a 4th round pick of the Bruins back in 2009. His career high in terms of points as a pro is 19. He also regularly hits triple digits in the PIM column.

Which means the Flames essentially swapped old Tim Jackman for a younger version of Tim Jackman. There's at least a small chance MacDermid will develop into a functional 4th line mucker type (as Tim was in his younger days), but it's also possible he'll merely top out as an AHL-level enforcer (a la PL3).

I continue to be surprised that NHL GM's make these sorts of deals. Replacement level tough guys are freely available. They litter the minor leagues and they hit the waiver wire throughout the season...in fact, MacDermid was on waivers himself a few days ago. Calgary probably waited to trade for him so they would have more flexibility now that he's cleared waivers (ie; they can send him down to Abbotsford now)...but the whole thing seems like a waste of effort to me.

Oh well.

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#51 Scary Gary
November 22 2013, 11:40AM
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At least he isn't post-apex...apparently he throws a lot of hits.

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#52 Charleston Kingsley
November 22 2013, 12:47PM
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Very necessary trade...

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#53 seve927
November 22 2013, 12:53PM
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John Deere Green wrote:

I guess I'm just frustrated with this move as I don't know how to express myself here. Maybe it's the lack of actual hockey player moves, and instead having to read about nuckle draggers being swapped. The Flames don't need this guy. For crying out loud, put some young developing kids on the ice. I enjoy watching the young players trying to establish an identity and play for an NHL contract. If feaster keeps tinkering with fringe players like this, he guarantees himself long term employment cause he's never gonna lose a trade by a huge margin.I dunno, I was hoping for some impact to the roster this year. Maybe i'm just too damn impatient and dont want to wait till the trade deadline or the draft or free agency.Keep up the good work here on Flames Nation. Love this site. Read it and check it multiple times daily!

Pretty much my sentiments. But I do think maybe we're just getting impatient. It's a long season, I'm confident there will be at least one really good deal at some point this winter, hopefully several.

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#54 TRAV
November 22 2013, 12:54PM
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John Deere Green wrote:

I guess I'm just frustrated with this move as I don't know how to express myself here. Maybe it's the lack of actual hockey player moves, and instead having to read about nuckle draggers being swapped. The Flames don't need this guy. For crying out loud, put some young developing kids on the ice. I enjoy watching the young players trying to establish an identity and play for an NHL contract. If feaster keeps tinkering with fringe players like this, he guarantees himself long term employment cause he's never gonna lose a trade by a huge margin.I dunno, I was hoping for some impact to the roster this year. Maybe i'm just too damn impatient and dont want to wait till the trade deadline or the draft or free agency.Keep up the good work here on Flames Nation. Love this site. Read it and check it multiple times daily!

These fringe moves really are just that fringe. Somewhat uneventful. If you look around the league, there have been very few moves. I would say that the Smid move was one of the more significant. (not huge but it's been a pretty quiet trade front thus far)

I think that the time to see kids will come but let's not pull an Edmonton or Buffalo and dress nothing but kids. This is a proven way to wreck development and set the rebuild back. I for one am glad that we aren't seeing a mass early exodus of vets. Young guys are easing in and for the most part are being successful. Being a dominant team in the AHL and is not hurting anyones development at this point in time..

I suspect that we will be one of the more active teams at the deadline and that the last quarter of the season will see the Flames dressing many Heat callups. We are very early into a rebuilding process as rebuilds go. Let's proceed with a plan and some patience.

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#55 everton fc
November 22 2013, 01:00PM
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TRAV wrote:

These fringe moves really are just that fringe. Somewhat uneventful. If you look around the league, there have been very few moves. I would say that the Smid move was one of the more significant. (not huge but it's been a pretty quiet trade front thus far)

I think that the time to see kids will come but let's not pull an Edmonton or Buffalo and dress nothing but kids. This is a proven way to wreck development and set the rebuild back. I for one am glad that we aren't seeing a mass early exodus of vets. Young guys are easing in and for the most part are being successful. Being a dominant team in the AHL and is not hurting anyones development at this point in time..

I suspect that we will be one of the more active teams at the deadline and that the last quarter of the season will see the Flames dressing many Heat callups. We are very early into a rebuilding process as rebuilds go. Let's proceed with a plan and some patience.

The challenge you potentially present to the kids when they get all the ice time and win very few games is frustration and, depending on the city or market, disengagement. I've always wondered if the Oilers have hurt their young players by doing this. Ditto Buffalo, neither a city free agents have on the top part of their destination-lists.

Dressing the kids on the farm in Abby, for short spurts to give them a taste of the NHL, not to mention seeing how far away they really are physically, and mentally, isn't a bad strategy, and one I think Troy "G" will deliver on. I like Ward. I'd like him to get a look with the big club. Maybe as the head coach someday.

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#56 TRAV
November 22 2013, 01:38PM
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Parallex wrote:

"You really can't expect McGrattan to beat up Ference."

That's EXACTLY what I expect him to do.

What the eff is the point of having a liability like McGrattan eating up a roster spot if he doesn't? So that he give friendly pats on the head after having a fight that had no reason to happen except as a lame attempt to somehow validate the combatents continued employment but not when one of our guys is essentually assualted on the ice?

It's a long season and I expect that Ference will get some payback. Imagine the outrage if Grats grabs Ference in a 2-1 hockey game and takes an instigator. Would that have been better?

I'll eat my hat if someone doesn't have a bout with Ference at some point this season. On second thought...

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#57 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 22 2013, 01:55PM
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everton fc wrote:

I'd say he's more versatile than Jackman. Obviously. I'll go the extra block and a half and say he's more versatile than McGrattan. He's certainly no worse. He certainly made Breen look less the tough guy in their bout earlier this season.

All that said, he's been assigned to Abby. So he's filler.

You really can't expect McGrattan to beat up Ference. But you could expect MacDermid. And he's American. The Flames like the Yanks these days!

I dont care who fight Ferrance, including McG, as long as

A) Ferrence does NOT want to fight

B) they make him fight anyway

C) they get a few shots in before Ferrence has his gloves off

D) better yet, start said unwanted fight with any of the oils top 6 and follow stepd B and C... cause thats how the oil like to play the game!

Oiler fans would definitely respect it based on how they defended Ferrence.

Ferrence also jumped upshall last night same way... hitting him wih cheap shots before he even got his gloves off.

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#58 MichaelD
November 22 2013, 02:39PM
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@Jeff In Lethbridge

So then you want a 'staged fight' Edit: I meant to respond to this:

I disagree on Ferrences motive. he was trying to be a leader and lead his team out of powder-puffery. he is trying to lead by example

as far as i am concerned he (McGratton) just needed to wait until his next shift and then slap the most valuable guy on the ice around a bit... neednt even be Ferrence

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#59 Monaertchi
November 22 2013, 02:59PM
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@MichealD

http://flamesnation.ca/2012/1/11/does-the-momentum-boost-from-fighting-help-teams-win-games

"To us in the stands it might seem like a 'useless fight' but remember in minor hockey when one of your buddy's got in a pushing match or a fight, and you wanted to get out there and make difference. Well it's the same thing."

Have a read of the article above, and possibly the 3 linked articles within it, and then tell me if you still think it's not a "useless fight".

And if your opinion is not changed, can you provide a reason that is not personal and anecdotal?

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#60 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 22 2013, 04:22PM
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mattyc wrote:

Guys... it's Andrew Ference. One 'r'

Not to me it isn't!! :-D

he'll be forgotten so soon it doesnt matter at this point!

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#61 MichaelD
November 22 2013, 04:39PM
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@Parallex

He isn't going out and mauling someone. He has to judge the state of the game, and when the time is right. Otherwise he'd have some suspension and everybody here would be ripping him apart. McGrattan is an amazing team player, and I bet the guys love being in the dressing room with him (as well as on the ice). He does do a job and that's why he's making 500K a year here, and not in California. We have to respect that.

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#62 ChinookArch
November 22 2013, 04:41PM
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theCalgaryJames wrote:

If you`re gonna do a Hartley impression you have to add more `you know, like` in there.

example: `okay Jay, you know, like, now dat we have like a Fort line winger, you know, send Blair Jones to dat Heat. We don'dt you know, like, need da guy`

Well done! Yes, let's go with version. I can hear Bob talking now.

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#63 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 22 2013, 05:45PM
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Lober wrote:

Wow...... per Dreger "4 or 5 teams have kicked tires on Calgary's Mikael Backlund. Flames willing to move him." Plzzzzzzzz don't trade Backs

I'm betting he ends up in Toronto - first of all cause GM's, er, hockey ops presidents always go after waters they are familiar with and secondly, they want to shop Gardiner, and thirdly, they was to get rd of liles salary. I'd say throw in a first from toronto to sweeten the pot and it's done

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#64 Walter White
November 22 2013, 10:51PM
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A 24 year old goon for a 34 year old goon seems like a good trade for me..... WW

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