Post-Game: Duck Dynasty

Taylor McKee
November 29 2013 04:57PM

 

January 19th, 2004, a simpler time. The jerseys, baggy. The goaltenders, bloated. The Flames, loveable. A time when men were men and most of the Edmonton Oilers were teething. This was the date of the last Flames victory in Anaheim.
18-straight games. Some of those were close games with dramatic late-game heartbreaks. Some games, the Flames deserved better but couldn’t beat a hot goalie, or hit too many posts, or were the victim of the hockey gods.

This was not one of those games.

The Ducks are a far better hockey team when all things are equal, let alone when the Flames are missing five regulars and playing on ice that is atop of what surely is the burialground of Kent Nilsson's ancestors or something.
The Ducks beat the Flames 5-2 and the game was never really in doubt.

GAME SUMMARY

Well the first period started fairly even, with both teams trading chances. However, Anaheim struck first with defenceman Sami Vatanen capitalizing on a wildly out of position Berra to open the scoring. Then, as has plagued Berra this whole season, one goal followed another. Corey Perry, untouched in front of the net, tipped in a shot from Ben Lovejoy and made it 2-0 Ducks midway through the frame. The rest of the period was largely controlled by Anaheim and ended up out-shooting the Flames 14-6 at the end of the first. Cammalleri was the only Flame who looked even remotely dangerous in the period with a few shots on net and even was involved in some extracurricular activities with Lovejoy.

The Flames started the second with slightly more energy but were completely unable to generate sustained pressure of any kind in the Ducks zone. Four minutes into the period, Mikael Backlund took a delay of game penalty and Dustin Penner tipped in a slap-pass from Getzlaf to make it 3-0. Berra was caught slightly too high in his crease on the Penner goal and basically gave himself no chance.

Only a couple minutes later, Lance Bouma delivered a nice hit on Lindholm that generated a turnover to the point and noted sniper Ladislav Smid delivered a shot that just squeaked through Frederik Andersen to bring the Flames back within two. However, after the goal, the Ducks returned to controlling play and alternated between hemming the Flames in their own zone and denying them clean entries into Anaheim’s defensive zone.

With 11 minutes left in the second, noted Flames killer Daniel Winnik slide a pass across to survivor of the Oilers organization Andrew Cogliano who somehow chipped it top left corner on Berra to make it 4-1. The Ducks were able to occupy the slot very easily, taking advantage of Berra’s aggressive ‘style’.

Throughout the game, Berra struggled again with positioning and on at least two of the first four Ducks goals, he simply didn’t place himself in the best position to make saves. The Anaheim telecast explicitly mentioned that they didn’t too much care for his style and wondered if that kind of goaltending would be successful in the NHL. However, Berra wasn’t the Flames trailed for the entire game. The Flames lethargy through large stretches of this game didn’t exactly help matters. Not to mention the fact the Ducks are simply a much better team and demonstrated it this game by a significant margin.

With seven minutes to play in the second, David Jones, playing with Backlund and Bouma, was able to take advantage of a Ducks turnover and rifled it home short side with traffic in front of the net, making it 4-2. Full marks to the Flames as after the Jones goal, they were able to generate some good offensive zone pressure to end the period. The Ducks outshot the Flames 29-16 in the second.

The Flames just looked lost and completely outmatched in the third, Dustin Penner fired home a pass from Ryan Getzlaf to make it 5-2 off a mindlessly horrible turnover from Chris Butler. That was it for Berra who had a “meh” night against a very good team. Karri Ramo presumably took the ice without Hartley realizing it and was basically under siege for the remainder of the game.

WHY THE FLAMES LOST

The Flames lost because they are not as good, not healthy, and not getting elite goaltending (and even then, they aren’t pulling this one out). The Flames were outshot 42-21 so although Berra wasn’t exactly reminding anyone of Terry Sawchuk tonight, he was hardly the reason for the loss on this occasion.

THE RED WARRIOR

This one isn't easy. Lance Bouma has generated goals through his forecheck in consecutive games but it is difficult to identify a Flame worthy of this prestigious honour. Let’s go with the Flames’ dads, especially T.J Galiardi’s for rocking the tightey whiteys.

Scoring Chances

 

Team Period Time Note Home Away State
Away 1 18:27 Jones 10 15 17 31 40 47 4 7 11 17 29 54 5v5
Away 1 18:10 Stempniak 4 6 8 22 31 39 3 13 18 22 29 44 5v5
Home 1 15:25 Belesky 8 22 28 31 39 45 17 18 27 29 43 54 5v5
Home 1 15:09 Selanne 8 22 28 31 39 45 17 18 27 29 43 54 5v5
Home 1 12:35 Fowler 8 22 31 39 40 47 3 11 17 29 44 54 5v5
Home 1 12:22   7 11 28 31 34 47 4 7 13 18 22 29 5v5
Home 1 9:38 Penner tip PP 4 10 13 15 17 31 3 11 22 29 44   5v4
Home 1 8:39 Perreault PP 8 21 22 31 39 47 4 7 17 18 29   5v4
Away 1 7:57 Cammalleri 8 22 31 39 45 47 3 13 19 29 44 54 5v5
Home 1 7:40 Vatenen 13 18 21 31 40 47 4 7 11 17 29 54 5v5
Home 1 6:47 Perry goal 6 10 13 17 31 40 3 11 17 29 44 54 5v5
Away 1 5:30 Reinhart 8 22 31 39 40 47 4 16 19 27 29 59 5v5
Home 1 4:04 Getzlaf 4 6 10 15 17 31 3 8 24 29 44 47 5v5
Home 1 1:43 Perreault 4 8 22 31 39 45 4 7 8 24 29 47 5v5
Home 2 17:29 Tip 13 18 21 31 40 47 4 7 16 19 29 59 5v5
Home 2 17:19 Wrap around 8 22 31 39 40 47 3 11 17 29 44 54 5v5
Home 2 16:17 Penner PP 4 10 13 15 17 31 3 13 22 29 44   5v4
Home 2 16:08 Penner goal PP 4 6 8 22 31 39 8 24 27 29 43 47 5v5
Away 2 14:10 Jones tip goal 13 18 21 31 40 47 3 11 17 29 44 54 5v5
Home 2 13:13 Belesky 8 22 28 31 39 45 4 7 8 24 29 47 5v5
Home 2 11:39 Cogliano goal 8 22 31 39 40 47 3 16 19 29 44 59 5v5
Home 2 10:56 Belesky 8 22 31 39 40 47 3 16 19 29 44 59 5v5
Home 2 10:43 Belesky 4 6 8 22 31 39 3 16 19 29 44 59 5v5
Away 2 7:45 Jones goal (screened) 7 11 31 34 40 47 11 17 27 29 43 54 5v5
Away 2 7:28 Stajan 4 6 10 15 17 31 4 7 13 18 22 29 5v5
Away 2 4:30 Baertschi chance 13 18 21 31 40 47 4 7 8 24 29 47 5v5
Away 2 4:20 Backlund 11 18 21 31 40 47 4 7 11 17 29 54 5v5
Home 2 2:11 Perreault 4 6 8 22 31 39 3 24 29 44 47 59 5v5
Away 2 1:50 Bouma 4 6 8 22 31 39 3 11 17 29 44 54 5v5
Home 2 0:02 Perry PP 4 10 13 15 17 31 3 13 22 29 44   5v4
Away 3 19:32 Bouma SH 4 10 13 15 17 31 3 11 17 29 44   5v4
Home 3 19:18 Getzlaf PP 4 10 13 15 17 31 4 7 13 22 29   5v4
Home 3 19:05 Belesky PP 8 22 31 39 45 47 4 7 13 19 29   5v4
Home 3 17:40 Bonino PP 4 10 13 15 17 31 4 7 18 19 29   5v4
Home 3 17:01 Penner PP 4 10 13 15 17 31 3 11 13 29 44   5v4
Home 3 16:53 Penner PP 10 13 15 17 31 47 3 11 13 29 44   5v4
Home 3 15:21 Koivu 6 7 11 28 31 34 11 17 27 29 43 54 5v5
Away 3 14:17 Hudler 10 15 17 31 40 47 4 7 13 18 24 29 5v5
Home 3 13:12 Selanne post 8 22 28 31 39 45 3 8 17 22 29 44 5v5
Home 3 11:25 Getzlaf 4 6 10 15 17 31 3 13 18 24 29 44 5v5
Home 3 8:35 Penner goal 10 15 17 28 31 47 3 8 13 22 29 44 5v5
Home 3 7:30 Perreault rebound 4 6 8 22 31 39 16 27 31 43 47 59 5v5
Home 3 0:30 Palmieri 13 17 21 28 31 45 11 17 27 31 43 54 5v5

 

# Player EV     PP     SH    
3 SMID, LADISLAV 18:05 4 11 00:00 0 0 04:47 1 5
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 22:16 6 5 00:00 0 0 02:14 0 4
7 BRODIE, TJ 21:45 5 5 00:00 0 0 02:14 0 4
8 COLBORNE, JOE 13:01 1 6 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
11 BACKLUND, MIKAEL 10:48 5 6 00:00 0 0 02:42 1 3
13 CAMMALLERI, MIKE 17:50 4 3 00:00 0 0 02:28 0 6
16 MCGRATTAN, BRIAN 09:02 1 5 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
17 BOUMA, LANCE 11:38 5 9 00:00 0 0 01:59 1 1
18 STAJAN, MATT 19:04 3 4 00:00 0 0 01:49 0 2
19 JONES, BLAIR 11:20 2 4 00:00 0 0 01:21 0 2
22 STEMPNIAK, LEE 16:36 2 3 00:00 0 0 03:01 0 4
24 HUDLER, JIRI 15:48 2 6 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
27 SMITH, DEREK 14:18 2 6 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
29 BERRA, RETO   11 20   0 0   1 9
31 RAMO, KARRI   0 2   0 0   0 0
43 BREEN, CHRISTOPHER 11:44 1 6 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
44 BUTLER, CHRIS 17:50 4 11 00:00 0 0 04:47 1 5
47 BAERTSCHI, SVEN 12:27 1 6 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
54 JONES, DAVID 11:42 6 8 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
59 REINHART, MAX 09:41 1 6 00:00 0 0 00:42 0 0

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 4 10 4 8 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
2 6 10 6 8 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
3 2 11 1 6 0 0 0 0 1 5 0 0

 

SUM IT UP

The Flames drop to 8-13-4 and need to seriously consider an excorcism at the Honda Center. Things don't get a lot easier tomorrow as they face off against the L.A Kings at the Staples Center at 8 P.M. MT.

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Taylor splits time between UVIC and Calgary studying history. Taylor likes the Flames, the Cannons, Buckshot, and the Oxford comma. Taylor scored on his own net on dome ice when he was 8. Twitter: @TaylorMcKee_
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#1 ChinookArch
November 29 2013, 06:30PM
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Glad I missed this game.

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#3 Captain Ron
November 29 2013, 07:14PM
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It played out pretty much the way I thought it would. We will know were near the end of the rebuild when we are able to compete with the Ducks, Kings, and Sharks regularly and win 50% or more of the games. Especially on the road. I look at those teams, along with the Hawks and instantly become envious.

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#4 SmellOfVictory
November 29 2013, 07:34PM
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"a wildly out of position Berra"

This should be the Flames' new tagline.

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#5 seve927
November 29 2013, 07:41PM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

"a wildly out of position Berra"

This should be the Flames' new tagline.

He's supposed to be learning the NA game, but his positioning just keeps getting worse. Progressively more ugly.

Good luck tomorrow, Karri.

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#6 Walter White
November 29 2013, 07:49PM
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Captain Ron wrote:

It played out pretty much the way I thought it would. We will know were near the end of the rebuild when we are able to compete with the Ducks, Kings, and Sharks regularly and win 50% or more of the games. Especially on the road. I look at those teams, along with the Hawks and instantly become envious.

Such is the enormity of the challenge facing the 3 western Canadian teams for years to come;

beat 2 of the 3 (Sharks, Kings, Ducks) just to get to face the Blackhawks or Blues in the conference final..........just to make it to the cup.

No more lucky draws like the Canucks had a few years ago into the final.

Tough times ahead. WW

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#7 Ryan Pike
November 29 2013, 08:52PM
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Scrambly goalies look at Berra and call him scrambly.

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#8 Bilman
November 29 2013, 09:23PM
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I wonder if Curtis McElhinney or Henrik Karlsson would have made out better with the kind of rope Berra has had.

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#9 jeremywilhelm
November 29 2013, 09:59PM
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Jeebus, Hartley's hard on for Berra is annoying the hell out of me.

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#10 jeremywilhelm
November 29 2013, 10:04PM
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OMFG, Brian Mcgrattan played almost 10 minutes. What. in. the. F.

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#11 clyde
November 29 2013, 10:13PM
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jeremywilhelm wrote:

OMFG, Brian Mcgrattan played almost 10 minutes. What. in. the. F.

Whether you like him or not, the guy competes to the best of his ability every single second he is out there. In games where guys either don't, or for whatever reason can't do that, what better guy to reward and use as an exemplar for the younger players.

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#12 Walter White
November 29 2013, 11:09PM
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The good news is that we will be picking in the top 3 next year!!!

The bad news is that we will finish in second worst place in the league, yet due to law of statistics; we will end up with the 3rd overall pick. The 3 rd overall pick next year will be a lot worse than Monahan.....

Aaron Ekblad is the player the flames need to draft next year.....unfortunately he will go in the top 2.

Hopefully this year Feaster will be able to trade up.

WW

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#13 Victoria Flames Fan
November 29 2013, 11:37PM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

"a wildly out of position Berra"

This should be the Flames' new tagline.

Ether that or "a mindlessly horrible turnover from Chris Butler"

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#14 jeremywilhelm
November 30 2013, 12:11AM
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Backlund still only played 10 mins EV. FFS.

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#15 Big Ell
November 30 2013, 04:18AM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

"a wildly out of position Berra"

This should be the Flames' new tagline.

Brian Hayward compared him to Marty Turco. I say he is more like a poor man's Marty Turco. Plus I like your tagline so I will mash them together and refer to Reto as "a wildly out of position Berra; the poor man's Marty Turco."

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#16 Big Ell
November 30 2013, 04:21AM
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jeremywilhelm wrote:

Backlund still only played 10 mins EV. FFS.

He was invisible and his delay of game penalty probably sealed his fate with Hartley.

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#17 jeremywilhelm
November 30 2013, 07:27AM
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@Big Ell

Then Hartley is a moron.

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#18 seve927
November 30 2013, 08:32AM
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Hartley: "In today's game you need to be quieter in the net". He's definitely very loud right now. I think it may be that he's trying too hard to win games by himself. I do think he's a very athletic and talented goaltender, and they seem to realize where he needs improvement. Give him a few games to watch and work on his deficiencies, then give him another go.

Better nights for a few prospects after a bit of a lull. Roy had another 3 point night, as did Poirier. Ferland's keeping his nice little run going. We'll see if he can put in a whole season. It would be nice to see Arnold, Gaudreau, Agostino, Kulak, and Culkin come up to the AHL for a long playoff run. Could be some good experience for a lot of guys. Heat roll Comets tonight!

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#19 coachedpotatoe
November 30 2013, 08:46AM
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Lots of complaining going on here today. Yesterdays results were quite easy to predict: one they are an elite team we are not, two we are playing in a place where we do not play well, three while both teams have injuries ours have a far greater impact on our team than theirs because of depth and talent. Today could be exactly the same.

Folks we are in a rebuild despite what Hartley seems to think. There are going to be a ton of mistakes and lots of growing pains over the next few years and if we are going to go crazy after each one we might as make our appointments for the shrinks right now.

Berra indeed has some issues and yet at times he makes some great saves. Complain abut him if you want point out his shortcomings but understand this is part of the rebuild. Hopefully Ramo will play great today and force Hartley to give him a bit of run in net (8 of 10 would be nice). This would allow us to see what Ramo is and also see how Berra responds to being a back up.

McG played 10 minutes thats probably a game high for him since about the 5th game of the season. To me playing him nightly suggests that Hartley does not get the idea of the rebuild. Every minute he plays takes time away from the development and evaluation of other players. He should play about very third game at most and only when the other team has a known cheap shot artist (supposedly that should deter them?.

What have I liked about the rebuild so far? We have allowed 4 first year NHL forwards to play almost every game. 3 of the 4 have been sat down at times to see the game. Now that Monahan is injured he will have the same chance. Hopefully he will take it all in and get the rest he needs and won't hit the rookie wall at the end of the season. Sven,Bouma and Colborne have all been sat and we only get upset when Sven sits; I believe they all benefit from watching at times. Despite the injuries on D we have only really seen Billings (2 games) and Breen (3 games I think), instead we added Schmid. I'm okay with addition but at some point I would like to see more of Billings and less of Smith and OB. I hope they do not rush Gio back to soon.

I'm good with rebuild so far although I hope we see some of the other 21-24 year olds before the trade deadline,

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#20 Jeff In Lethbridge
November 30 2013, 09:48AM
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jeremywilhelm wrote:

OMFG, Brian Mcgrattan played almost 10 minutes. What. in. the. F.

that's the same icetime as Backlund basically , because, well, I guess McGratton is just as good as Backlund.

With all the beatings the flames were taking along the boards, I figured it would be a good time for Gratts to put a little fear into the opposition, but I guess that would have taken away from his ability to play hockey... (rolls eyes)

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#21 Jeff In Lethbridge
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clyde wrote:

Whether you like him or not, the guy competes to the best of his ability every single second he is out there. In games where guys either don't, or for whatever reason can't do that, what better guy to reward and use as an exemplar for the younger players.

that would be fine if he would return some of the big hits that the Ducks were dishing out...

but I guess we need to get used to him in the role of a sniper...

cause he sure wasn't playing the body hard causing anyone to think while he was on the ice, nor dishing out any paybacks for the big hits the guys were taking.

Sniper McGratts, a return to his Jr. days role

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#22 Jeff In Lethbridge
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Backlund still only played 10 mins EV. FFS.

I'm blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, BUT... to me, it looked like Backlund got all of one shift on the second line before being relegated to the fifth line...

for a while i thought us fans were overreacting to Backlunds treatment, and hoped maybe the coach was just moving him around while trying other guys out. Now ,even I, the most optimistic fan, has to concede that regardless of what management may think, the coach has zero use for Backlund and as such he is done here.

this really ticks me off, as, like most here, I really like Backlund as a homegrown talent... maybe not top six but a respectable high end 3rd liner that can score when given the chance and can move the puck forward.

the only question that remains for me is, who has such a hate on for Backis? is it Burke or the coach?

When Burke came in to Calgary and immediately said he wasn't impressed with one particular player, I assumed he meant Stajan, but now I'm rethinking that

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#23 negrilcowboy
November 30 2013, 10:11AM
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un berra bull. bet burkie trades backs to the taranna maple loafs for gardner. gawd the flames need a tender and badly.

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#24 Kevin R
November 30 2013, 11:27AM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

un berra bull. bet burkie trades backs to the taranna maple loafs for gardner. gawd the flames need a tender and badly.

Why? Do you think we need to go pick up Reimer or some other established backup tender from some team to give us a .900 or .905 save percentage? For what? To win a few extra games so we can pick 6-10th? I'd rather play Berra & Ramo this year & quit worrying/complaining about the goaltending & just see if these guys can show any kind of improvement & consistency that would warrant them being on the roster next year. Berra has his issues but he's made some good saves too.

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#25 MangoTanker
November 30 2013, 11:30AM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

I'm blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, BUT... to me, it looked like Backlund got all of one shift on the second line before being relegated to the fifth line...

for a while i thought us fans were overreacting to Backlunds treatment, and hoped maybe the coach was just moving him around while trying other guys out. Now ,even I, the most optimistic fan, has to concede that regardless of what management may think, the coach has zero use for Backlund and as such he is done here.

this really ticks me off, as, like most here, I really like Backlund as a homegrown talent... maybe not top six but a respectable high end 3rd liner that can score when given the chance and can move the puck forward.

the only question that remains for me is, who has such a hate on for Backis? is it Burke or the coach?

When Burke came in to Calgary and immediately said he wasn't impressed with one particular player, I assumed he meant Stajan, but now I'm rethinking that

Personally, I think it's Burke. I don't think Hartley pulled a ton of "Backlund on the 4th line" last year. I think Hartley is smarter than that.

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#26 TRAV
November 30 2013, 11:33AM
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Best advice, relax.

Berra getting a good look makes sense as his contract is up at end of year. I'd like to see them give RAMO the same opportunity now. 8-10 game run is important for a goalie to get comfortable and for the team to get a read. I think Berra showed some promise but clearly isn't there yet. Overcommits.

For the record against the Ducks it wouldn't have mattered who was in net. We were thoroughly outclassed.

Backlund is likely to get a bit of a look while Monny is out. For all the love he receives around here I hope that he does something to impress. Personally I feel like the Flames underrate him and the Nation overvalues him. He's pretty average to my eye. I would LOVE to see him look great in the next 6-7 games. To me he looks like a pretty okay third line guy.

Coachpotatoe nailed it when he said this is exactly the way things were expected. You can't have a thin team and lose four of your top players and still compete. I'm afraid this is a natural part of the rebuild.

Also Yikes. Anybody else think that Breen just does not look like he can keep up in the NHL. I was hopeful with his size and reach and positional play but those hopes are fading fast. I think it's important to give him a few games but, so far it's not encouraging.

If you're looking for a positive we are two up on Oil with two games in hand. How are they so bad?!

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#27 Kevin R
November 30 2013, 11:56AM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

I'm blind in one eye and can't see out of the other, BUT... to me, it looked like Backlund got all of one shift on the second line before being relegated to the fifth line...

for a while i thought us fans were overreacting to Backlunds treatment, and hoped maybe the coach was just moving him around while trying other guys out. Now ,even I, the most optimistic fan, has to concede that regardless of what management may think, the coach has zero use for Backlund and as such he is done here.

this really ticks me off, as, like most here, I really like Backlund as a homegrown talent... maybe not top six but a respectable high end 3rd liner that can score when given the chance and can move the puck forward.

the only question that remains for me is, who has such a hate on for Backis? is it Burke or the coach?

When Burke came in to Calgary and immediately said he wasn't impressed with one particular player, I assumed he meant Stajan, but now I'm rethinking that

I've always been a Backlund supporter. Like you, I have seen good potential in him & really thought he could have been a top 6 centre on the Flames. Huge debate the other night with some buddies & I was doing my WTF are we doing with Backs & why the trade & I was taken back by some of the discussion, enough to make me rethink this.

The argument back is that Mickis has had his chances. When he's set up to succeed & seems to make progress he's fragile & gets injured. When he's fully healthy & is expected to take that step & cease the opportunity to run one of the top 2 lines, he has played soft & under performed. Yes, you said it, he may be a pretty good 3rd line forward for this team in the future. But the rebuild has just started & we have players that could easily step up & play that game. Reinhart is one who seems to have an excellent head on his shoulders but his offense isn't translating to top 6 either. Most likely, a potentially great 3rd line centre. Knight is showing lots of promise & just maybe we see his game translate to the top 6, otherwise, he seems like a pretty solid future 3rd line centre. Sound redundant? Colborne, has great size, seems just on that verge of having the tools to being a top 6 if he can show more of the real good shifts more consistently. Otherwise, he looks like a nice big potential 3rd line centre. That's 3 decent 3rd line centres & this rebuild has just started. I think you have to go with youth, Backs will probably do well in the right environment, trading him may not be such a horrible thing many are pounding the drums about on Flames Nation. We need young top 6 forwards, Monahan obviously is showing the pedigree for that & he's only 19. We need more of this not Backlund idolizing because his corsi numbers happen to be better on this team. He just isn't showing he has what it takes to be a top 6 forward, maybe it is time to cut bait with him & get the best deal possible.

Sven's name came up as well. He had so much fanfare from fans of a franchise with absolutely no future messiah to lead this team. He was the best prospect we have seen in years & years, but in reality, he was a 13th overall selection & it will be real hard for this fan base to accept he may have difficulty cracking our top 6. If Burke could pull off a Backlund/Baerschte to Philly for Couturier & their 2014 1st, would you do it? We lost our beloved Kipper/Iggy idols & we are desperate to replace what they represented for the fans, but both of those guys earned that. No one has done that just yet on this team, but we do have some that seem to be getting close. Let's hope soon & godspeed to our future franchise players to arrive.

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#28 suba steve
November 30 2013, 12:24PM
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@Kevin R

Agree entirely with your first post. If we had a 25 year old Patty Roy in net, we would see a lot of complaining about how he was affecting the teams draft position (and I would be one of those complainers, though it would be nice to have Roy!). There is just no pleasing all the people.

If Philly is going to make one of their young C available, moving Sven does make sense, if the price seems right. The Flyers are just nutty enough to do it too.

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#29 Captain Ron
November 30 2013, 02:12PM
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@Kevin R

Like you I was also a big supporter of Backlund. But your take is exactly how I feel about him now as if I had written that myself. If I change my mind it will only be because Backlund has forced me to do it with his play, and not just for two games either.

Yes I would do that deal with Philly for sure!

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