FGD: Blues Travelers

Ryan Pike
November 07 2013 12:37PM

After splitting the first two games of their four-game trip through the Central Division, the Calgary Flames (6-7-2) try to get back to .500 tonight. They face a tough test in the St. Louis Blues (9-2-2). The Blues have been strong of late, winning four of their last five – including their last outing on Tuesday against the Montreal Canadiens. The Flames are in a bit of a slide, having lost three of their last four games – their only victory being Sunday in Chicago.

The Blues have been one of the NHL's best teams this year, bolstered by a strong offensive attack led by Alex Steen. With the Blues' size and speed, the Flames may have their hands full. The puck drops at 6pm MT on Sportsnet Flames and the Fan 960.

THE LINE-UP

Deep breaths everyone. Here are the projected lines via DailyFaceoff.

Bouma – Stajan – Jones
Cammalleri – Colborne – Galiardi
Jackman – Monahan – Hudler
Reinhart – Backlund – McGrattan

Butler – Brodie
Russell – Wideman
Billins – O'Brien

Berra
Ramo

So, no Sven Baertschi. In addition, Tim Jackman and Brian McGrattan slot in, with the “grit” players sprinkled throughout the line-up. Baertschi's parked in the press box for the third straight game. Calgary lost the first two games he sat by identical 5-1 scores. And it's a bit odd considering that Reinhart/Backlund/Baertschi would be a decent line, albeit not a checking line.

The Flames announced earlier today that Curtis Glencross is out with an MCL injury for six weeks, so the Flames are without Breen, Giordano, Stempniak and Glencross. As a result, the lines look a bit lean. The Cammalleri/Colborne/Galiardi line is probably the top line by default and will get leaned on heavily.

Reto Berra starts after giving up five goals in Minnesota. He was drafted by the Blues and they traded him to Calgary, so he may be motivated. After the loss on Tuesday, Bob Hartley noted that the team wasn't that good, so it makes sense to throw Berra back in there. I'd guess Karri Ramo starts in Denver on Friday.

THE OPPOSITION

Via our best pals at DailyFaceoff:

Steen – Backes – Stewart
Roy – Sobotka – Oshie
Schwartz – Berglund – Tarasenko
Cracknell – Lapierre – Reaves

Bouwmeester – Pietrangelo
Jackman – Shattenkirk
Leopold – Polak

Elliott
Halak

St. Louis' top six is really great, full-stop. Alex Steen is the hottest thing in hockey right now, boasting 13 goals and a disgustingly strong 30.2 shooting percentage. The top line has 45 points between the three of them. The third line is also fairly strong, and it's not until the friggin' fourth line that you find some rough spots. This is a blueprint on how to build a hockey team in 2013, gang.

Tons of ex-Flames here. Aside from Jay Bouwmeester and Jordan Leopold, Adam Cracknell was a late, late round pick that worked his tail off and made it to the NHL on a regular basis. I'm resisting the urge to call him an everyday NHLer, but he's close.

SUM IT UP

The Flames need a win tonight to guarantee a .500 record on this road trip. They'll be in tough against the Blues, who have two regulation losses this season and play a very structured game. That said, the Flames have the tools to win, as they showed in Chicago. The key to their success will be out-working the Blues and beating them to loose pucks, something they utterly failed to do in the third period against Minnesota.

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Now in his fourth season covering the Calgary Flames and the NHL, Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's trying to keep his head up, his stick on the ice and is giving it 110% every shift. You can also find his work at The Hockey Writers and the Wrestling Observer.
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#51 Bean-counting cowboy
November 07 2013, 07:40PM
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In regards to this Sven debate: to my eye, Hartley has to see or know something that the rest of us are not privy too.

Whether that be conversations he's had with Sven, things Sven has said, attitude etc.

It's the only explanation that makes sense in my mind. Unless there is pressure from Burke and he's worried about job security.

There's more to the story than we know methinks.

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#52 Walter White
November 07 2013, 07:49PM
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Hartley really showed Sven!!!

Sven must be laughing his Swiss @ss off every time he sits in the press box and the flames get a beat down! WW

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#53 MichaelD
November 07 2013, 07:51PM
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@Bean-counting cowboy

I agree, I would imagine it has something to how Sven approaches the game. He might not have a level of professionalism that Hartley expects I've seen him wear toques in pre-game interviews where Russell has on a nice shirt, I know it's a little thing, but coaches expect those things. And those things can make a difference.

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#54 loudogYYC
November 07 2013, 08:01PM
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@Walter White

WTF WW

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#55 Colin
November 07 2013, 08:01PM
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@TRAV

Respect is one thing, any degree of trust with regards to how he handles the flames based on the fact the he won a cup twelve years ago and since then is quite unacomplished, is another. I don't care that he's won a cup, it won't change my opinion what he's doing with this roster. I respect the fact he won the cup, don't see any relevance in giving him any benefit of the doubt in regards to the Flames because of it though.

To me its the same thing as giving those guys who are naturally 3rd/4th line players massive contracts because they played great that one time in the playoffs(Hi Joel Ward, though this year he's off to a good start). It's a great accomplishment on Hartley's part, but at this point in time it means not much.

Also, Backlund got PP time, is it the return of Backlund??? As well Brodie may end up with as much TOI as Reinhart, Billins, McGratton and Jackman combined, that is some seriously good use of roster spots right there.....

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#56 loudogYYC
November 07 2013, 08:01PM
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@Walter White

Sorry, double post.

WTF WW

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#57 Baalzamon
November 07 2013, 08:06PM
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@Bean-counting cowboy

Maybe he just wants Sven to shoot more. That, at least, is something I can agree with.

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#58 mattyc
November 07 2013, 08:08PM
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Tim Jackman from Shane O'Brien and Chad Billins... You don't hear that very often

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#59 negrilcowboy
November 07 2013, 08:11PM
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flames radio is torturous this season with that magpie chirpin more than pete.

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#60 TRAV
November 07 2013, 08:17PM
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Boy Cammy is good at those one timers off that side. He will help someone down the stretch and should earn a decent return.

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#61 jonahgo
November 07 2013, 08:34PM
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Jeff Lebowski wrote:

When Sven has been in the lineup has he been good? I understand PP time but Monahan produced with no PP time and Monahan's icetime has mirrored Sven's until maybe 5 games ago.

So what I understand the play Sven fire Hartley crowd asking for is:

Sven should play because he has talent. What does that remind you of?

Hartley and the team have fostered a team approach since the beginning. Comments were widespread about how hardworking camp was. With the new season came the team being turned over to the vets, who were going take on tough minutes. The focus was now everything is earned.

A major point that upset many people during the end of Jarome era was how he and Tangs (of which Sven was exposed to during his call up - He loved Tangs too) played to their own beat. There were two sets of rules.

I don't think Sven has played that well. He hasn't really produced and quite frankly he kills plays. It comes from him being lackadaisical.

Sven thinks, thanks to fans and hype, that his talent is long sought after and precious here. He's right but talent - work is garbage. His numbers should be better.

In fact it's been this way with him since the summer. Why didn't he dominate prospects camp?

Sven is being reprogrammed. He needs to get rid of the idea that he is everything the fans and media tell him. A great talent. He has add hard work all the time. That is the culture. Reinhart is another option for the team. Despite his obvious talent, Sven needs to understand he is no different and not special.

Making Sven seperate from that culture because of talent is going back to the Iggy country club people raged about. Don't have to earn it cause you got talent.

To a different degree Backlund, Brodie, Horak, all the Sutter era (Darryl and Brent)have to be reprogrammed.

More in terms of playing less safe, afraid of mistakes hockey and into Hartley's aggressive system. Not attitude with them.

may the tale of young baertschi strike fear in the hearts of slackers everywhere.

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#62 Rockmorton65
November 07 2013, 09:01PM
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TRAV wrote:

Boy Cammy is good at those one timers off that side. He will help someone down the stretch and should earn a decent return.

If they decide to trade him.

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#63 Sincity1976
November 07 2013, 10:38PM
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@Bean-counting cowboy

Sven was applauded for his attitude before we drafted him, after we drafted him, and all of last season. So if he somehow all of a sudden has a bad attitude it is probably more to do with the fact that he is seeing the same thing everyone else is seeing.

Hopefully he ends up like Kadri. Tough love equaling good performance. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Turris. Poor opportunity equals a hold out and trade to another team that is benefiting from a great player.

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#64 Derzie
November 07 2013, 11:31PM
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If you think the treatment of Sven is a good thing, you're part of the problem. Before Hartley starting messing things up the lines were solid, teamwork was strong and Hudler/Monahan/Sven were the top line. Injuries aside, now it is just a gritchart/worker-bee world where ice time is given out with pats on the heads to the hardworking dullards. Skill need not apply. The drastic change has to be Burke pulling strings. It just doesn't make any sense. I hope every dumbass lineup Hartley puts forward results in a loss. So far, that's been the case. Trash away if you please but it is a vote for Gritchart.

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#65 Derzie
November 07 2013, 11:32PM
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If you think the treatment of Sven is a good thing, you're part of the problem. Before Hartley starting messing things up the lines were solid, teamwork was strong and Hudler/Monahan/Sven were the top line. Injuries aside, now it is just a gritchart/worker-bee world where ice time is given out with pats on the heads to the hardworking dullards. Skill need not apply. The drastic change has to be Burke pulling strings. It just doesn't make any sense. I hope every dumbass lineup Hartley puts forward results in a loss. So far, that's been the case. Trash away if you please but it is a vote for Gritchart.

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#66 loudogYYC
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Derzie wrote:

If you think the treatment of Sven is a good thing, you're part of the problem. Before Hartley starting messing things up the lines were solid, teamwork was strong and Hudler/Monahan/Sven were the top line. Injuries aside, now it is just a gritchart/worker-bee world where ice time is given out with pats on the heads to the hardworking dullards. Skill need not apply. The drastic change has to be Burke pulling strings. It just doesn't make any sense. I hope every dumbass lineup Hartley puts forward results in a loss. So far, that's been the case. Trash away if you please but it is a vote for Gritchart.

Relax, man. Just cuz the coach is being tough on an underachieving player doesn't mean Burke is making on-ice decisions.

If Baertschi-Monahan-Hudler is the first line then Sven is weighing them down. He has 5 pts compared to Monahan's 11 and Hudler's 17. Granted he's played 3 less games but still. He could and should be a lot better, he's just not showing it yet.

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#67 Baalzamon
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@loudogYYC

"He could and should be a lot better, he's just not showing it yet."

Can he? Or are we just expecting too much too early?

Food for thought.

Also, people seem to willfully forget this, but Hudler started the season playing with Backlund. He didn't start playing with Monahan until I believe the middle of the third period in game 5.

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#68 piscera.infada
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"...Or are we just expecting too much too early?"

In short, yes.

That said, I don't think he's been great - which is entirely reasonable for a player given his age and build. So, I don't see a problem with some tough love, but I agree it has to have it's limits. I'm just not a fan of the "set it and forget it" (Ron Popeil would be proud) method of development. Baertschi will be back, and he'll get it.

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