FGD: That Really Good Team That Cory Sarich Is Also On

bookofloob
November 08 2013 04:05PM

  

One night after some bad luck, bad personnel decisions, and a solid young hockey team dealt your Calgary Flames their second loss out of three games on their current road swing, the boys in white will do it all over again 24 hours later as they sled into Denver for a date with the equally young and equally good Colorado Avalanche.

While this may not be the division rival it once was, it's still a contest with some intrigue, which I'm sure I will mention at some point over the course of this FGD, and thusly convince you in the end that it is a hockey game you should watch.

Because that's what we're here for in the end, isn't it? How else are you going to spend your Friday night? In the company of your friends and loved ones in delightful social situations that one day you'll look back upon fondly? YEAH RIGHT BUDDY. It's hockey night, and that's all that matters in your otherwise devoid of meaning "life".

The Flames of Calgary and Certainly not Atlanta

Lineups, as always, provided to us by our besties over at Daily Faceoff. Catch the fever!

  • Cammalleri - Colborne - Galiardi
  • Reinhart - Stajan - Jones
  • Baertschi - Monahan - Hudler
  • (sigh) Jackman - Backlund - McGrattan
  • Butler - Brodie
  • Wideman - Russell
  • Smith - O'Brien
  • RAMO

So, I mean obviously the thing to talk about is Sven being back in the lineup, which is a weird thing to have to be a topic seeing as the fact that he was out of the lineup was a dumb thing, and you'd figure at this level teams would stop doing dumb things, but Bob Hartley seems to love doing dumb things so here we are.

It is definitely good that the Sven and the Svean get reunited tonight, as Sven gets to check back in after being healthy scratch'd TWICE SOMEHOW, and Monahan just doesn't seem to have the same jump when Baertschi isn't on his wing. But I feel like Sven is going to be under somewhat of a microscope tonight, from the fans but also his idiot coaching staff, and if he doesn't perform at some nominal level that may be almost unrealistic to expect out of him, and if Tim Jackman keeps scoring at the clip he's doing it (glacially), it could mean more time over in yonder pressbox for the Svensational one.

Speaking of dumb, 4th line. Goddamn, how many times are they going to go back to that well? There are no longer any words for it, just exaseperrated noises, which I won't transcribe to you here yet, but maybe later depending on how this game goes.

Reinhart on the second line. I really don't understand what the fans and the coaches see in this guy (kinda think the name has something to do with it because that never happens...). He's not a bad player and he's certainly a better option than the facepunch twins, but even on this team I don't see him as a Top 6 forward, yet here we are. This is, however, a player I believe is more than capable of proving me wrong, so let's see if he does that tonight. If not, hey, let's call up Corban Knight sometime real soon, okey doke?

Karri Ramo checks back in, and that's good, because he gets to prove one more time that this team hates him for no good reason. True he's rocking an .888 sv% this year, and that's not great, but it seems like he has less leash on this team than Reto Berra and also somehow Joey MacDonald, neither of whom have been very good themselves. A good start tonight would get him trending back towards being the starting goalie maybe some of us believed he could have been, sorta, before the season began.

The Avalanche of Colorado and Certainly Not Quebec

Again, lineup courtesy of Daily Faceoff, who you can follow on twitter, and should.

  • Landeskog - Statsny - McGinn
  • O'Reilly - Duchene - Parenteau
  • Mitchell - MacKinnon - Talbot
  • McLeod - Cliche - Bordeleau
  • Johnson - Hejda
  • Benoit - Sarich
  • Holden - Guenin
  • Varlamov (!)

Funny how success can let your team get away with doing some of the exact same things a less, uh, good team gets criticized for without anyone really knowing they're actually doing it.

For example, with all the talk in Calgary this year surrounding Sean Monahan and whether or not he should have gone back to the OHL instead of burning a year of his ELC (the answer is still yes), the same approach could have been taken for Nathan MacKinnon. Granted, that was never a discussion, and it was very evident that the first overall pick was good enough to play in the NHL even before camp broke. But here we see Patrick Roy playing him on the third line with some VERY underwhelming linemates, and you have to wonder how much he's gaining experience wise out of this first season in Denver. But The Avs are 12-2, so no one really seems to be asking that question.

You can also get away with dressing two facepunchers on your fourth line and no one seems to notice. Cody McLeod DOES bring a degree more to the Avs than say Top 6 forward Tim Jackman does to the Flames, but he knows his role. He wears an A for it.

If there's a weakness to the Avs, it is on the back end, where as you can see, Cory Sarich is in the Top 4, and no one knows who the rest of these guys are outside of Erik Johnson, who is a clown, and Jan Hejda, who, okay, I know nothing about Jan Hejda. How are these guys winning games??? Oh right, all the talent on the forward lines, that's a nice thing to have.

Semyon Varlamov gets another start for the Avs tonight, and I think we can all agree that's coocoo bananapants right now, even though he is netting them wins.

Playoff Implications

Players to Watch

I was going to have Alex Tanguay in this list, but seeing as the former Flames winger and guy we all at least kinda liked is out for two weeks with a sprained knee, so I'm going to assume he's going to be invisible tonight.

If you like the narrative of former players playing against their former clubs - and who doesn't? - boy have we got you covered tonight. David Jones, TJ Galiardi, and Shane O'Brien all once used to don those classic purple and blue nightmares of a jersey, while Cory Sarich and sorta Ryan O'Reilly are ex-Flames.

I just remembered the Ryan O'Reilly fiasco and got too angry to think about anything else.

Watch Sven. Everyone else will be. I predict he will be good because he is a good hockey player and it's funny how that works out, isn't it?

Conclusion

The Avs are good. They're proof that the Edmonton Oilers style rebuild works as long as you're not the Edmonton Oilers. And that means Calgary is in tough tonight, but hey, if they can beat the Chicago Blackhawks on the road, they can certainly beat the Avalanche.

Remember that the game is at 7 even with those damn time zones, which reminds us, hey, the team returns to the friendly confines of the Saddledome soon enough.

Cheer hard. Cheer for Sven. Cheer for Backlund. Do it hard because the team is doing everything it can to drive them out of twon and it's only a matter of time before we see them on good teams making Bob Hartley look (more) foolish.

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#51 Colin.S
November 08 2013, 07:49PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

My bad.

I'm not a big fan of the Dancing Bear, but that man is crazy tough. Has he lost a fight as a Flame?

No I don't think so, pretty sure he has won all of them.

http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/52/fightcard/reg2010

Gotta go back to 2010 for a fight he lost, one against Orr, one against Boogaard.

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#52 Baalzamon
November 08 2013, 07:52PM
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@Kent Wilson

Yeah. It's pretty ridiculous how much Colborne's getting coddled, and for pretty much no reason at all.

To be fair, though, he was fairly good against the Blues last night.

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#53 Baalzamon
November 08 2013, 07:53PM
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Clyde wrote:

Gillies with a shut out tonight

He must have heard about the trade.

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#54 ChinookArch
November 08 2013, 08:14PM
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Beautiful setup by Backlund and great finish by Cammalleri!

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#55 Burnward
November 08 2013, 08:15PM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

good thing everyone was so against my idea of signing gilbert this summer

Yeah, because they're exactly the same player.

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#56 ChinookArch
November 08 2013, 08:15PM
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That was short lived sigh.

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#57 Colin.S
November 08 2013, 08:16PM
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So SoB was on the ice with McGratton and Jackman and Monohan as the center....... yeah lets not do that again.

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#58 TRAV
November 08 2013, 08:17PM
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That was is on OB. Had many chances to get puck out. Smid is looking better and better...

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#59 TRAV
November 08 2013, 08:17PM
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That was is on OB. Had many chances to get puck out. Smid is looking better and better...

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#60 Burnward
November 08 2013, 08:18PM
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I know we're rebuilding, but I'm starting to think Cammi shouldn't be going anywhere.

As the season rolls on, he's turning into a great leader for this team. He's scoring big goals and has that calm, business-like demeanor that is awesome to see.

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#61 Captain Ron
November 08 2013, 08:19PM
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That was an awful shift by O Brian that led to the 3rd goal.

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#62 yomamen11
November 08 2013, 08:20PM
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5 Flames just watching at Mitchell in this on! 2nd major collaps of Flames play in the game. First one was on ROR goal

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#63 Captain Ron
November 08 2013, 08:20PM
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That was an awful shift by O Brian that led to the 3rd goal.

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#64 yomamen11
November 08 2013, 08:20PM
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#65 yomamen11
November 08 2013, 08:21PM
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5 Flames just watching at Mitchell in this on! 2nd major collaps of Flames play in the game. First one was on ROR goal

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#66 yomamen11
November 08 2013, 08:22PM
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#67 yomamen11
November 08 2013, 08:22PM
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quadruple post

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#68 Burnward
November 08 2013, 08:25PM
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Always battling. Hellz yeah.

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#69 wot96
November 08 2013, 08:25PM
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Man, does Backlund ever suck between Cammi and Hudler. He really needs to pull his socks up or he'll get benched again.

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#70 Kent Wilson
November 08 2013, 08:25PM
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Apparently Hartley got my memo re: Colborne with Cammalleri and Hudler.

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#71 Kent Wilson
November 08 2013, 08:27PM
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Apparently Hartley got my memo re: Colborne with Cammalleri and Hudler.

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#72 Kent Wilson
November 08 2013, 08:28PM
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Apparently Hartley got my memo re: Colborne with Cammalleri and Hudler.

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#73 thymebalm
November 08 2013, 08:28PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Apparently Hartley got my memo re: Colborne with Cammalleri and Hudler.

The truth is Hudler with anyone this season...

I don't know what he did over the summer, but all the guys should do it this coming off-season. He's a man possessed.

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#74 ChinookArch
November 08 2013, 08:32PM
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Bob Hartley thinks to himself "weird . . . 3 talented offensive players on the same line scored twice, what could that mean? Ah, it's just a fluke!"

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#75 Kent Wilson
November 08 2013, 08:34PM
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@thymebalm

Anyone aside from Colborne you mean.

But yeah Hudler has looked great.

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#76 ChinookArch
November 08 2013, 08:41PM
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The Av's don't seem to have an answer for the HBC line. They've been great tonight.

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#77 Kent Wilson
November 08 2013, 08:42PM
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New Backlund line is on fire in this period. Creating something every shift.

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#78 Burnward
November 08 2013, 08:42PM
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Alright guys, can we chill on the Hartley hate.

We're about a quarter of the way into this year and I imagine the memo from upstairs is for him to find out what he has, who he doesn't need to shape this team moving forward.

Although it is craze that Backlund was getting his ice time cut down so severely, maybe it was about the vets proving they belong to stay.

What he's done is have this team competing EVERY night. When's the last time we could say that?

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#79 RexLibris
November 08 2013, 08:44PM
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My math may be off because I'm not sure if I'm working with tonight's numbers, but I think Cammalleri is responsible for around 18% of the Flames total offense while having played only 9 of their 16 games this season.

That'll make for an easy sell come trade deadline.

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#80 Colin.S
November 08 2013, 08:44PM
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I think Hartley coaches on accident. Because all of sudden he starts using guys like Baertschi and Backlund and the are playing EXACTLY like they were before being demoted and benched but its working like it has before and the Flames look a lot more competitive.

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#81 Kent Wilson
November 08 2013, 08:47PM
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Chances 10-2 in the second. The Backlund line generated 7 (!!) of those chances.

The only other line with chances is the Monahan trio.

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#82 RexLibris
November 08 2013, 08:48PM
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Quick notes about Smid, the trade was possible because of the recent development of Fedun and Larsen.

And Smid was drafted, and developed, as a point-producing blueliner.

He and Eberle are/were the last pieces from the Chris Pronger trade.

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#83 SeanCharles
November 08 2013, 08:53PM
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Cammalleri-Backlund-Hudler

Hope those three stay together for a bit.

I felt at the start of the year that should be the top line.

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#84 thymebalm
November 08 2013, 08:54PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Anyone aside from Colborne you mean.

But yeah Hudler has looked great.

I'm waiting for Hartley to try Hudler with his favoured pairing of Jackman and McGrattan.

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#85 Colin.S
November 08 2013, 08:58PM
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RexLibris wrote:

Quick notes about Smid, the trade was possible because of the recent development of Fedun and Larsen.

And Smid was drafted, and developed, as a point-producing blueliner.

He and Eberle are/were the last pieces from the Chris Pronger trade.

I'm glad that Fedun kid is playing good, felt really bad for him with that horrific injury.

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#86 Burnward
November 08 2013, 09:05PM
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We're getting at least a point out of this one.

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#87 RexLibris
November 08 2013, 09:06PM
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I'm glad that Fedun kid is playing good, felt really bad for him with that horrific injury.

Heck of a story. Local kid (played South Side Athletic Club), undrafted, Princeton grad in Mechanical Engineering (built a working hovercraft for his final project), comes back after injury and scores two goals in his first two NHL games.

Play that story against the Miami Dolphins noise and the usual head-shot clatter and it makes you feel good about sport again.

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#88 RexLibris
November 08 2013, 09:16PM
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Flames look like they need all five guys working together to beat Giguere.

The Avalanche look like, everytime they have the puck, it has a decent chance to go in.

Dangerous. I like their effort, but this is playing with fire.

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#89 RexLibris
November 08 2013, 09:28PM
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Somebody get Cammalleri the kitchen sink. I don't think Giguere has seen the Flames throw that at him yet.

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#90 Colin.S
November 08 2013, 09:35PM
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Joe Colborne with the third lowest time on ice next to McGratton and Jackman. Wonder if hartley hears it from Burke tomorrow.....

But seriously, both Backlund and Baertschi looked good, I know Backlund produced and Baertschi couldn't get the points, but I don't get what more either of them needs to do to be regular players in this lineup.

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#91 Burnward
November 08 2013, 09:51PM
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Bah, the boys deserved better tonight.

Chin up guys! Another great effort and we definitely appreciate it!

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#92 Justin Azevedo
November 09 2013, 10:16AM
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@Burnward

you're right gilbert is better and costs less

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