Breaking: Flames Fire Feaster & Weisbrod

Ryan Pike
December 12 2013 10:18AM

 

 

The Flames official Twitter account has announced that Jay Feaster and John Weisbrod have been relieved of their duties.

A press conference with real, actual details is coming up at 11am.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#1 WildBill_1485
December 12 2013, 01:22PM
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@Southern_Point

Again, if you've never laced up a pair, you will never understand. Hockey is a man's game, its getting bigger and faster and obviously more dangerous, and the only safety valve that used to keep the rats like Cook and Marchand from running around like tough guys has been taken out (instigator). Please, if you are just a fan who enjoys the sport and have never played competitively, do not try and talk like you know what goes on in the heat of a battle.

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#2 kittensandcookies
December 12 2013, 11:28AM
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SmellOfVictory wrote:

I'm calling it: this is the moment the rebuild goes off the rails.

Good.

I hope this team goes totally off the rails. I hope every trade and signing Burke makes the team worse.

I hope people stop going to games - in droves.

Ownership needs a kick in the ass.

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#3 WildBill_1485
December 12 2013, 11:56AM
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@Parallex

All you people complain about Burke's penchant for truculence, yet I guarantee you're all the first to hit their feet when McGrattan drops the mitts to defend our city and the kids. Hypocrites.

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#4 jeremywilhelm
December 12 2013, 12:24PM
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Brian Burke is so F-ing stupid.

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#5 Justin Azevedo
December 12 2013, 10:45AM
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you guys wanted brian burke? you got him.

as bad as feaster was, you're going to see why i preferred him to burke.

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#6 They're $hittie
December 12 2013, 11:06AM
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bye bye sven bustchi and his 35 points a year

bye bye geadreau who will not score in the nhl

bye bye backlund an actually usefule and almost elite 3rd line center.

bye bye camellerri

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#7 T&A4Flames
December 12 2013, 10:49AM
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Bets on when Phaneuf ends up a Flame again?

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#8 This guy
December 12 2013, 10:58AM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

you guys wanted brian burke? you got him.

as bad as feaster was, you're going to see why i preferred him to burke.

You're childish.

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#9 WildBill_1485
December 12 2013, 12:26PM
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Colin.S wrote:

How does beating in another goons head defend our city and the kids???

He's not superman, he's paid to beat up other grown men.

If you've never laced up a pair at a competitive level you will never understand.

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#10 mk
December 12 2013, 10:56AM
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T&A4Flames wrote:

Bets on when Phaneuf ends up a Flame again?

I actually wouldn't be opposed to that. He is a legitimate top-4 (arguably top pairing) defenseman. If he could be extended on a reasonable contract (~$4-5M/year: I can dream), it would be great. If he's at a similar cap hit, it would be meh.

It won't happen though.

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#11 WildBill_1485
December 12 2013, 11:51AM
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This is the best day in Calgary since Lanny Mac and that beautiful moustache of his brought the cup home. This should have happened the day he drafted Janko off the board, and should have happened 10 times over after the ROR fiasco. How people are upset over this boggles my mind, the only thing Feaster had figured out was what he was having for supper and desserts on a nightly basis. Feaster inherited the team that stole the cup from us in '04, and I always felt it was the biggest slap in the face we brought him in to run things here. CHEER UP BUDS!!! Its a great day to be a Flames fan. Looks better than Lanny Mac in a muscle shirt!

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#12 Parallex
December 12 2013, 11:53AM
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Vomit.

This is Burke removing any alternate opinions in the F.O.

Seriously, he's going to fire two guys two weeks before Christmas for drafts that have produced a top ten system (and a 2013 draft that he himself called the best in the NHL) and trades where he had little to no leverage?

Sad day in Flamesland. We're now ruled by folk who overvalue the wrong things and undervalue the right things.

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#13 Mac962
December 12 2013, 12:00PM
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This sets up a Kevin Lowe - Brain Burke showdown - who can totally make their franchise a joke. My Oilers lead - but Burke is a neanderthal and the Flames and Oilers will be doormats for several years yet i am afraid. I crave a meaningful rivalry again.

You going to trade some of your talent there Burke for some under skilled Muscle ? Good luck with that.

What has happened to the Alberta Hockey teams, we have become jokes.

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#14 WildBill_1485
December 12 2013, 01:13PM
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@Colin.S

Yes sir, concussions forced me into an early retirement however because I played in a league that did not allow the players to police themselves, therefore guys run around without fear of any consequences and run guys from behind regularly (the one that ended my career broke my orbital bone and forced me to stay in my dark basement for months, and three years later I have not fully recovered). The guy who did it got a one game suspension, and I have not been able to play since. Bet he would have thought twice before running me from behind if Big Mac was on our bench and he wasnt handcuffed by instigator rules.

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#15 Colin.S
December 12 2013, 11:58AM
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The good news is they fired Feaster, the bad news is the guy that is going to hire his "replacement" isn't someone I want in charge either.

I already see potential candidates being thrown around on Twitter. But honestly with Burke in the position he's in and it's well known he's making the decisions, what high profile GM are we going to lure from another team, when Burke is already acting as GM?

Expect some retread GM from his time in some other org and whole lot of losing in our future.

ALSO!! Predictions time. Hartley and his staff are fired at the end of the year, this is mostly because the Flames probably don't want to be paying out a ton for a fired coach and then the new guy when the season is a lost cause anyways, so we wait till the offseason for a new coach. Baertschi/Backlund/Gaudreau will not be with the team next year, probably by the end of this year. Wisebrod was the guy I primarily credit with drafting Gaudreau and without him around and Burke's GET BIG mentality, I don't see him around, I expect him to get packed with a first rounder of ours for BIG forward.

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#16 Trevy
December 12 2013, 11:01AM
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Nieuwendyk will be the next GM!

Merry Christmas Feaster! -Flames

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#17 They're $hittie
December 12 2013, 11:04AM
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How do you get fired when you picked at 21 in the 2010 draft and got the best player in the whole draft while aquiring a second round pick?

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#18 WildBill_1485
December 12 2013, 12:12PM
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Haha I wish. Pretty sure he has better things to do than troll the message boards. I am a big supporter however, if you couldnt tell. I posted on here the day we NEEDLESSLY traded JBo for magic beans and a prayer wondering why Burkes name was never mentioned in Calgary, then my wish came true, and I knew Fatster would be on his way out. The only move I give credit to Mr. Feaster for is the Kris Russell move, other than that, his trade record is suspect at best.

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#19 the truth
December 12 2013, 12:34PM
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WildBill_1485 wrote:

Haha I wish. Pretty sure he has better things to do than troll the message boards. I am a big supporter however, if you couldnt tell. I posted on here the day we NEEDLESSLY traded JBo for magic beans and a prayer wondering why Burkes name was never mentioned in Calgary, then my wish came true, and I knew Fatster would be on his way out. The only move I give credit to Mr. Feaster for is the Kris Russell move, other than that, his trade record is suspect at best.

Kris Russell could of been had for nothing. He was on waivers days before trade. Typical Feaster.

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#20 Lordmork
December 12 2013, 10:25AM
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So I guess we're going to load up on free agents and make a run for 8th place next year? I may not have liked everything Feaster did, but at least he seemed to have a plan and things seemed to be going according to it.

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#21 ianberg1
December 12 2013, 11:38AM
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I'm sure I'm just one of many Flames fans who absolutely saw this coming the day Brian Burke was hired. When I posted something on Flames Nation to the effect that Feaster may not last the 2013-14 season, I don't recall seeing any trashes on that post.

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#22 redricardo
December 12 2013, 01:22PM
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So to summarize Burke's explanation of why Feaster is gone:

The hard part of rebuilding is trying to manage assets, but Feaster did a good job of that, and managing the cap.

Drafts are important, and you need to hit a homerun. Also, Feaster did that this year.

The team is playing good, and he's proud of them, but disappointed in the ability to hold leads the last month, but this had nothing to do with it.

All that being said, Burke knows how to win, and you have to be big and mean, and even though Feaster did all the things Burke said were important... You know... #Gritchart.

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#23 Lober
December 12 2013, 02:29PM
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Well Sven got sent to the AHL so you could say I'm pretty pissed

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#24 SmellOfVictory
December 12 2013, 10:20AM
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I'm calling it: this is the moment the rebuild goes off the rails.

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#25 prendrefeu
December 12 2013, 12:30PM
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Seriously though: if we lose Gaudreau through this mess that's the end. Some other team will pick him up, comparisons to the next Fleury (or even Crosby) will continually be front page articles across the arc of his career, and we'll be holding onto regret as a bitter fanbase clinging onto tattered jerseys of the past.

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#26 Parallex
December 12 2013, 01:49PM
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Blah blah blah... please continue to regal us with stories of how you know better then everyone else because you played in whatever 4th rate senior men's quasi-beer league (assuming you're not some 14 year old making crap up) you played in.

You know what... prove it. Prove it without resorting to articule of faith anacdotes or appeals to authority. Show me the evidence

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#27 mk
December 12 2013, 11:10AM
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Ugh - Burke has already started talking about how "successful teams are big". BAD BAD BAD...

TRUCULENT! He said it! And also "there you go, there's the word, I know you're waiting for it."

This is prime content and scary as a fan.

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#28 Justin Azevedo
December 12 2013, 11:12AM
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haha brutal. man burke is terrible

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#29 BurningSensation
December 12 2013, 12:04PM
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@Mac962

"What has happened to the Alberta Hockey teams, we have become jokes."

Well, you are half right. Feaster's firing is hardly an indication the Flames are a joke.

Edmonton though....yeesh

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#30 Southern_Point
December 12 2013, 01:17PM
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@WildBill_1485

I'm pretty sure Savard had his career ended after a dirty hit. Why did that happen if the NHL allows fighting?

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#31 Parallex
December 12 2013, 02:05PM
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"but the guy’s won in this league and I think he knows how to build a team."

He's also lost in this league and built bad teams.

Yes, he was GM of a team that won a cup (with a team largely built by someone else) you know who else has done that... Feaster. Burke's successes are all in the not so recent past and his failures a whole lot fresher in the memory.

Say what you will about Feaster but I always got the impression from him that he knew what he didn't know, Burke more gives the impression that he thinks he knows everything.

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#32 JaromeTakesSlapShots
December 12 2013, 10:21AM
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Please oh please don't let Burke be the new GM.

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#33 backburner
December 12 2013, 10:35AM
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It will be interesting to see how Ken King reacts

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#34 Byron Bader
December 12 2013, 10:37AM
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Holy hell. I don't think this bodes well for Johnny Hockey, Backs or Sven. I'm actually a little terrified of what Burke's about to do here. The team that Burke built in Toronto is one of the worst possession teams in the league, currently riding off a cliff and they don't even know it.

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#35 Justin Azevedo
December 12 2013, 11:02AM
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This guy wrote:

You're childish.

i'm also right. thanks for reading.

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#36 McRib
December 12 2013, 11:12AM
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Who is camellerri?

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#37 OIL FAN IN CALGARY
December 12 2013, 11:48AM
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COULD YOU PLEASE SEND BURKE ABOUT 300 MILES NORTH AND CAN OUR USELESS 6 RING CIRCUS GM? PLEASE AND THANK YOU!

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#38 Parallex
December 12 2013, 12:04PM
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WildBill_1485 wrote:

All you people complain about Burke's penchant for truculence, yet I guarantee you're all the first to hit their feet when McGrattan drops the mitts to defend our city and the kids. Hypocrites.

Heh, you're new here aren't you. If you weren't and you bothered to read a random 10% sampling of everything I've written you'd know that not to be true.

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#39 Primo
December 12 2013, 12:06PM
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I'm hearing Shanahan as the next GM.

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#40 Jeff Lebowski
December 12 2013, 03:38PM
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I'm totally disappointed by this move. This is the worst decision that could've been made IMO.

Not winning enough during a rebuilding year?! Look at the drafting record of the fired regime. Look at the AHL Heat .

Fire the coach if the team isn't 'performing'.

I was so proud of the direction Calgary was headed.

This just reeks of desperation, zero planning and forgoing process in favour of (financial) results

COMPARE FLAMES REBUILD TO OILERS. How about that as a standard for how Calgary had been doing in terms of results.

F$&k you Burke. I'm done.

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#41 Stockley
December 12 2013, 10:26AM
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Isn't the team supposed to be horrible this year? How long before he packages Backs, Sven and anyone else under 6'7 for some washed up nobodies or pending free agents?

This just doesn't make any sense to me. The timing is way off.

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#42 Denscafon
December 12 2013, 10:33AM
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I think most of us knew this day was going to come sometime soon when Burke was hired but ya, why now? Either what chillgoose said they couldn't agree on a trade and/or what to do with sven as burke clearly said he doesn't like him all that much. sigh.... get ready for more "grit/size"

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#43 Nick24
December 12 2013, 11:04AM
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I thought Feaster was doing pretty well. I mean we've had some pretty darn good drafting over the last three years and since the Cammy deal I think that all of the trades have been pretty good.

I just hope that the rebuild doesn't get thrown out the window...

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#44 Avalain
December 12 2013, 11:09AM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

i'm also right. thanks for reading.

I agree on all counts, except the part where you said we wanted Burke.

So to summarize, you're childish and also right that we're going to see why Feaster is preferable to Burke.

Oh well.

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#45 McRib
December 12 2013, 11:10AM
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No I think Feaster & Wiesbord (actually more miffed to see him go) did a solid job and if anything kept on improving in my books, as they seemed to be handling the rebuild nicely. Bringing in Hudler, Russell, Monahan, Gaudreau, Poirier, Knight, etc.

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#46 Veggie Dog
December 12 2013, 11:10AM
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Hey just said we need to be bigger, and more hostile (Hint: I think he means more truculence)

:(

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#47 Scary Gary
December 12 2013, 11:11AM
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Burke "I want more hostility out there", "black and blue hockey", good grief. This is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

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#48 Lordmork
December 12 2013, 11:16AM
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In summary: Burke doesn't think the team is gritty enough, and he's impatient with the rebuild.

After last year, I was actually feeling like the team was headed in the right direction, even if it was going to be a long process.

Not anymore. I'm super frustrated, and I think we're going to end up like the Leafs.

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#49 Stockley
December 12 2013, 11:17AM
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McRib wrote:

No I think Feaster & Wiesbord (actually more miffed to see him go) did a solid job and if anything kept on improving in my books, as they seemed to be handling the rebuild nicely. Bringing in Hudler, Russell, Monahan, Gaudreau, Poirier, Knight, etc.

Other than drafting Jankowski (someone was going to take a shot on him, unfortunately it was the Flames who needed to make a safer selection) and the ROR mess Feaster did more than I expected. He inherited a team that would make a Greek tragedy look cheerful and turned it into something that has a lot of people in the fanbase excited going forward. There have been whispers of interference from Edwards and King and still I think Feaster leaves the organization in better shape than he inherited it. It sounds like Burke wants to go back to the days of clutch and grab hockey, toughness preferred over skill; the sort of boring hockey that got the Flames to game 7 in '04 but couldn't get them over the top against a team that had more SKILL.

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#50 Primo
December 12 2013, 11:31AM
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Quote of the year by Burkie.."I'm not here to kiss baby's I'm here to win hockey games"...gotta love it!

I have always said with Burke here this is not an Oiler 8 year rebuild model without accountability...you win now or your gonzo!!

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