POST-GAME: GIO-GANTIC RETURN

Byron Bader
December 04 2013 11:47PM

 

 

The Flames returned to the dome after a brief road trip to California that saw them go 1 and 1. They won Saturday against LA in a tight checking affair and came into tonight with high hopes of winning their second straight game, a feat they haven't reached for nearly two months.  

The game was a good one. Unlike all previous Phoenix Coyotes vs. Calgary Flames games for all eternity, this one was actually relatively entertaining. It was appreciation night for the Canadian Armed Forces and the Dome was rocking. Captain Mark Giordano returned after a broken ankle, providing a huge upgrade on the backend.  And as a effort would have it, the Flames scored more than the Coyotes and beat a team they don’t often beat. So, as the kids say, it was all good in the hood tonight.

THE RUNDOWN

The first period started off with your typical Phoenix strangle hold where they gave up very little. At 4:47, Doan fed Yandle sneaking in from the point. He whiffed on the shot a little bit but that worked to his benefit as it went right past a fooled Ramo to give the Yotes the lead. The Coyotes continued to dominate for the first half of the first period, generating essentially all of the chances. The Flames started turning the play the other way in the second half of the period.  They tied it up with eight seconds left in the first with a similar play to the Coyotes first goal. The puck, after a nice Hudler zone entry and missed pass attempt, eventually made its way to a wide open Brodie at the point. He ripped one top right shelf where grandma keeps the hard candies. All square after one. Chances were 7-6 for Phoenix although the Flames were outshot 11-3.

The second continued to be an entertaining one. The Flames and Yotes traded shots back and forth before Backlund took a beautiful cross-ice feed from Hudler at 5:48 and beat Greiss over the right shoulder.  At 11:46 on the PP, Gio let go a knuckle puck from the point that bobbled past Greiss to give the Flames the 3-1 lead going into the third. Chances were 6-5 for the Flames in the second with the Flames outshooting the Yotes 11-10.  

The Flames kept right on rolling in the third. They took an early penalty which was quickly turned into a positive rather than a negative when Stajan made a great play to tap the puck off of Yandle at the blueline to create a two on one with Stempniak. Stajan carried the puck into the offensive zone faked the shot and dished it over to an open Stempniak at the side of the net who tapped in the shorty. The goal was the Flames 6th shorthanded goal of the year and puts them at the top of the league in that category. Chances were 5-3 for Phoenix in the third, which is a pretty good number for the home team given they were protecting a lead the whole time.

WHY THE FLAMES WON

The Flames deserved this one. They were the better team. The Flames generated a lot of chances against a team that doesn’t normally give many up, they outplayed a tired team that played the night before and almost everyone on the club played a good game with very few errors. Karri Ramo also turned in his second straight quality performance.

RED WARRIOR

This was a tough one to call as there were a lot of Flames that played real well tonight. Unable to decide, I took it to the live chat and Gio came out as the clear  favorite.  The Captain was great in his return tonight. He had a goal and an assist, logged over 20 minutes in ice-time and was a real calming force out there.  

Honorable mentions: Hudler, with two assists, was deadly in the offensive zone all night. Backs, potting his third goal of the year, looked great and Sven, even with limited ice-time, was good every time he was on the ice.

Scoring Chances

Team Period Time Note Home Away State
Away 1 18:56 Doan 4 7 13 18 22 31 1 6 19 50 53 89 5v5
Home 1 18:15 Hudler 3 11 24 31 54 55 1 6 18 36 53 63 5v5
Away 1 17:58 Hanzal 3 11 24 31 54 55 1 3 5 18 36 63 5v5
Away 1 17:27   5 16 17 31 32 44 1 3 5 14 24 29 5v5
Away 1 15:14 Yandle goal 3 13 18 22 31 44 1 3 5 19 50 89 5v5
Away 1 14:22 Chipchura 4 7 16 31 32 54 1 14 18 23 24 26 5v5
Away 1 11:59 Ribeiro 5 11 17 31 44   1 3 11 17 23 63 4v5
Home 1 10:14 B Jones SH 5 19 31 32 44   1 3 11 17 23 63 4v5
Home 1 8:51 D Jones tip 3 13 18 31 54 55 1 3 5 14 24 29 5v5
Home 1 5:16 D Jones tip PP 4 7 13 24 31 54 1 14 23 26 29   5v4
Home 1 2:44 B Jones 4 7 8 19 31 47 1 3 5 19 50 89 5v5
Away 1 1:40 Hanzal 3 13 18 22 31 44 1 11 17 23 26 34 5v5
Home 1 0:08 Brodie goal 4 7 13 18 22 31 1 3 5 19 50 89 5v5
Away 2 18:43 Doan PP 3 7 17 18 31   1 3 19 23 50 63 4v5
Home 2 14:13 Backlund goal 4 7 11 24 31 54 1 11 17 23 26 34 5v5
Home 2 13:50 D Jones 4 7 11 24 31 54 1 3 11 17 34 53 5v5
Away 2 13:10 Klinkhammer rebound 3 8 19 31 47 55 1 3 5 18 36 63 5v5
Home 2 12:36 Colborne 2on1 7 8 19 31 47 55 1 3 5 18 36 63 5v5
Home 2 12:35 Jones rebound 4 7 8 19 31 47 1 3 5 18 36 63 5v5
Home 2 12:34 Colborne rebound 4 7 8 19 31 47 1 3 5 18 36 63 5v5
Away 2 11:34 Vermette 5 11 24 31 44 54 1 19 23 26 50 89 5v5
Home 2 7:22 Cammalleri 3on2 4 7 13 17 18 31 1 3 5 34 63 89 5v5
Away 2 4:19 Vermette rebound PP 5 18 19 31 44   1 3 19 23 50 63 4v5
Away 2 0:30 Boedker slot 3 11 24 31 44 54 1 3 19 50 53 89 5v5
Away 3 18:58 Moss tip 4 7 13 18 22 31 1 6 18 24 53 63 5v5
Away 3 18:35 Vrbata PP 5 11 17 31 44   1 3 11 17 23 89 4v5
Home 3 17:16 Stempniak goal SH 3 7 11 17 31   1 14 23 26 29 34 4v5
Home 3 13:52 Stempniak 5 18 22 31 44   1 3 5 6 17 19 4v5
Away 3 10:55 Chipchura 5 8 19 31 44 47 1 3 11 17 53 63 5v5
Home 3 10:37 Colborne 3 8 19 31 47 55 1 5 6 14 29 34 5v5
Away 3 8:37 Boedker 5 13 18 22 31 44 1 19 23 26 50 89 5v5
Away 3 1:33   4 7 11 24 31 54 1 6 14 26 29 34 5v5

 

# Player EV     PP     SH    
3 SMID, LADISLAV 14:36 3 5 00:00 0 0 03:28 1 1
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 18:28 7 4 02:51 1 0 00:36 0 0
5 GIORDANO, MARK 14:40 0 4 01:33 0 0 04:15 2 3
7 BRODIE, TJ 21:09 8 4 01:51 1 0 03:58 1 1
8 COLBORNE, JOE 14:52 5 2 01:48 0 0 00:00 0 0
11 BACKLUND, MIKAEL 10:23 3 4 00:39 0 0 03:00 1 2
13 CAMMALLERI, MIKE 15:37 3 5 03:11 1 0 00:00 0 0
16 MCGRATTAN, BRIAN 07:52 0 2 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
17 BOUMA, LANCE 08:07 1 1 00:00 0 0 03:02 1 3
18 STAJAN, MATT 15:22 3 5 00:00 0 0 02:50 1 2
19 JONES, BLAIR 12:01 5 2 01:09 0 0 02:37 1 1
22 STEMPNIAK, LEE 13:36 1 5 02:00 0 0 02:34 1 0
24 HUDLER, JIRI 13:35 3 4 02:23 1 0 00:00 0 0
31 RAMO, KARRI   11 13   1 0   3 4
32 BYRON, PAUL 06:52 0 2 00:00 0 0 02:23 1 0
44 BUTLER, CHRIS 15:17 0 7 00:00 0 0 04:09 2 3
47 BAERTSCHI, SVEN 10:00 5 2 01:19 0 0 00:00 0 0
54 JONES, DAVID 12:27 4 5 02:11 1 0 00:00 0 0
55 O'BRIEN, SHANE 11:23 4 2 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 6 7 4 6 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
2 6 5 6 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0
3 3 5 1 4 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0

 

SUM IT UP

The Flames played a good all-around game, beating a Coyotes team that has had their number over the years. They won their second game in a row tonight. They have only done this two other times this season and the last time was against Montreal and New Jersey in mid-October. With the win, they improve to 10-13-4 on the season.  

Next up, Colorado on Friday and Edmonton on Saturday. Hopefully they can continue their strong play from the past two games and build on their longest winning streak in some time.  

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Byron has a background in psychology, economics and business and is a business researcher/data analyst by day. His love for hockey is as deep as the ocean is wide. Tell him your questions and let him into your heart. Twitter: @Baderader
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#1 ChinookArch
December 05 2013, 06:24AM
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It was nice to see a Flames player in goal that was in position for the entire game. Ramo > Berra

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#2 David Clare
December 05 2013, 05:56AM
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@Double Dion

Isn't it best that backs plays against the Ribero line? I would say that's good player deployment

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#3 Baceda
December 05 2013, 02:01AM
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I liked Baerstchi and Colborne as linemates. It could be good if those two develop some chemistry. With Sven's skill and Colborne's size and speed

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#4 Jeff In Lethbridge
December 05 2013, 08:41AM
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ChinookArch wrote:

It was nice to see a Flames player in goal that was in position for the entire game. Ramo > Berra

as much as it was weird to see Reto in net for such a long stretch, I think the org gave him every chance to prove himself... which he didn't.

Now it is Ramo's turn. we don't really know if he will, in the long run, be any better, but we are all pretty much ready to see anyone but Reto in net.

The Flames paid Ramo like the #1... so they will no doubt give im his chances and it looks like he may have some potential, but i am not at all upset over giving Reto the month of november to show where he is at. He cannot say now that he didnt get a chance, unlike many goalie prospects that died in the pipes behind the mater, kipper.

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#5 Denscafon
December 05 2013, 12:07AM
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Backlund should of gotten the 2nd star, not brodie. Game winning goal, won most of his faceoffs (stats say 53% but I was at the game and thought he almost won all of them honestly) and in general drove the play away from Ramo and cycled well in their zone. Hope hartley puts more faith in him and won't scratch or relegate him to 4th line duties again with mcfacepunch

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#6 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
December 05 2013, 12:52AM
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In all fairness, Backs should have had second-line minutes, but the coach believes Colborne to have the better offensive tools and thus he gets more EV and PP mins. To his credit, Colborne had multiple chances at EV.

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#7 Double Dion
December 05 2013, 12:42AM
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Somehow Colborne keeps seeing the lion's share of the minutes though no matter how well Backlund plays. It blows my mind.

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#8 mk
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David Clare wrote:

Isn't it best that backs plays against the Ribero line? I would say that's good player deployment

I'd say its probably the best move for the Flames at this point - Backlund gives them a decent chance at containing Ribeiro.

Ramo was a little aggressive last night, eh? Almost thought it was Noodles out there again...

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#9 HongKongHockeyFan
December 05 2013, 08:06AM
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Blair Jones, what a surprise! He seems like a completely different player from what I recall two years ago when the Flames traded for him. His skating is stronger, quicker and smoother. He also seems to have developed greater puck handling skills and seems to be playing a lot smarter. Definitely looks confident out there.

Or am I just imagining what I'm seeing? Anyways, will be interesting to see if he can stick with the big club? I think a lot of teams would interested in acquiring him as bottom six forward.

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#10 TRAV
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Good all around effort.

Sometimes it,s amazing to me how many comments always seem to revert back to Backlund and McGratton.

An interesting advanced stat might be to investigate how many posts mention Backlund or Grats. It almost makes me long for the heated Jankowski discussion.

Our pk has been exceptional last while. Gotta think that Cammy Stemps and Stajan are increasing value. Org has an interesting decision about the proper mix of vets versus rookies to further the development.

I found Butlers recent Corsi interesting. His numbers are really improving after last years horrible performance. He's playing pretty decent minutes too. Is there any value here in keeping or trading him?

Ramo has given us great back to back starts. Let's give him a nice run so we can evaluate and as a bonus win...

Love this teams compete level but that start was pretty horrible.

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#11 Double Dion
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If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin wrote:

In all fairness, Backs should have had second-line minutes, but the coach believes Colborne to have the better offensive tools and thus he gets more EV and PP mins. To his credit, Colborne had multiple chances at EV.

The coach also had a great deal of faith in Berra despite him slipping around on the ice like he's wearing Toms in a Canadian winter. The coach believes a lot of stupid things about player usage. The coach has a good system, but is horrendous when it comes to evaluating and deploying players. When it comes to the scoring chances look who is on the ice for the shifts played by the Ribero line. Always Backlund or Stajan, never Colborne. He gets the easy minutes. Easy competition and nice zone starts.

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#12 CDB
December 05 2013, 08:32AM
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Even in a game in which by any measure Backlund and Baertshi were two of the top flames, Colborne still logs more minutes. Absolutely hilarious. And Rammo, the goalie Bob had banished to the bench despite posting better or similar numbers to his Swiss son, looked sharp.

Here's one for "intellectual honesty".

Hartley is honestly an intellectual idiot.

Happy that despite their coaches utter disdain for them all three played well. Wow has Blair Jones (the guy Hartley picked last year as his whipping boy for no apparent reason) bounce back and playing this well.

So who gets scratched next game? Baertschi or Backlund? (Consolation prize is Mcgratton on your line).

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#13 Jeff In Lethbridge
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TRAV wrote:

Good all around effort.

Sometimes it,s amazing to me how many comments always seem to revert back to Backlund and McGratton.

An interesting advanced stat might be to investigate how many posts mention Backlund or Grats. It almost makes me long for the heated Jankowski discussion.

Our pk has been exceptional last while. Gotta think that Cammy Stemps and Stajan are increasing value. Org has an interesting decision about the proper mix of vets versus rookies to further the development.

I found Butlers recent Corsi interesting. His numbers are really improving after last years horrible performance. He's playing pretty decent minutes too. Is there any value here in keeping or trading him?

Ramo has given us great back to back starts. Let's give him a nice run so we can evaluate and as a bonus win...

Love this teams compete level but that start was pretty horrible.

regarding Buttler

It looks to me that we are only one real stud defenseman away from a top notch defense, i.e.

free agent Stud + Gio + Wideman + TJ Brodie+ Chris Russel

+ any combinaiton of buttler and/or new young guys coming up to round out top seven...

if we could buy a stud #1 and draft Ekblad.. defense is done for the near future...

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#14 DoubleDIon
December 05 2013, 12:34PM
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David Clare wrote:

Isn't it best that backs plays against the Ribero line? I would say that's good player deployment

I agree 100%. I'm just saying when you look at corsi, you need to take into account ZS% and QoC. Not just isolate corsi. I think Backlund or Stajan should see all of the tough minutes. It's best for the team, but you need to evaluate both players in light of that. Not bury Backlund with tough circumstances, give Colborne cherry circumstances and say Colborne's corsi is better.

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#15 vowswithin
December 05 2013, 09:36AM
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@Jeff In Lethbridge

That's just the thing! Giving Reto a 10-15 game stretch is fine, as long as he is willing to give Ramo the same and not pulling him off duty after 1 bad game. We all know this is the year for evaluation and so lets evaluate.

Same goes for the rest of the team. All we are asking for is fair and even treatment of players.

Wanna bench Backs for some crappy play? Then make sure you bench Coburn for the same play. Want to reward Coburn for getting points? Do the same to backs.. or anyone for that matter.

The Era of "I'm a vetran so I am entitled" should be over.

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#16 Dave
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getting Gio, Glencross, and Wideman back will be HUGE for this team. If Ramo can play average the Flames should be able to compete with most teams most nights.

I don't think there is any chance the flames get Ekblad unless they win the lottery. The team just isn't that bad (and I'm OK with that).

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#17 wineeditor
December 05 2013, 02:29PM
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I thought all 4 centers played great last night. I didn't notice Byron a whole lot on ES but when you play 4th line that is great! Backlund was skating well, pressing on D and more aggressive offensively (the goal was GREAT but the fact he took the shot was even better). Colborne made some beautiful passes (see Gios goal) played well behind the O net control wise and was solid in the D, and Stajan was....... Stajan; solid all round. All in all a great game by all 4! If your centers play well good things usually happen.

WRT Backlund/Hartley, last night was an anomaly. There is an ebb and flow to a game which sometimes results in longer shifts for certain players. Either they are going great in the offensive zone and shouldn't get off or are penned in their own zone and cant get off or there is an icing or the coach wants a match up two shifts down the line or whatever. Last night was one of those nights when Colborne had a number of big minute shifts. Watching the game I didn't notice any shifts where he should have come off and didn't so Im thinking it was just one of those things. Not his fault not Hartleys sometimes it just happens.

IF you think Hartley has it in for Backlund, look at total shifts last night. WRT to the forwards only Stajan (by one) was sent out over the boards by Hartley more than Backlund. If Hartley had it in for Backlund why would he do that??????? Hartley had to make a conscious decision to play Backlund that many shifts; it was well deserved and the result speaks for itself. ( A number of his shifts were SH which are shorter by nature and then the coach has to readjust his ES lines etc to give the PK time off to recuperate.. its a nature of the beast it is more tiring to PK than PP). Play your players to their strengths and I thought Hartley did great last night.

This is a tough crowd to please. Hartley cant win.

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#18 CDB
December 05 2013, 08:36AM
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TRAV wrote:

Good all around effort.

Sometimes it,s amazing to me how many comments always seem to revert back to Backlund and McGratton.

An interesting advanced stat might be to investigate how many posts mention Backlund or Grats. It almost makes me long for the heated Jankowski discussion.

Our pk has been exceptional last while. Gotta think that Cammy Stemps and Stajan are increasing value. Org has an interesting decision about the proper mix of vets versus rookies to further the development.

I found Butlers recent Corsi interesting. His numbers are really improving after last years horrible performance. He's playing pretty decent minutes too. Is there any value here in keeping or trading him?

Ramo has given us great back to back starts. Let's give him a nice run so we can evaluate and as a bonus win...

Love this teams compete level but that start was pretty horrible.

With respects to Backlund and Mcgratton, I can't help it and I'm sorry. I know it's bad, but the utter stupidity of it means I need to vent.

PK has looked strong, and those three have done a good job along with BACKLUND, Jones and even Byron.

I still have zero faith in Butler. He was outchanced 7-0 last night, was directly at fault on the only Phoenix goal and ddi not look good. I would be shocked if they get anything for him, but then again they managed to get a pick for Comeau so anything is possible.

Agree, run with Ramo for a bit. Though I'm sure that will break Bobs heart.

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#19 backburner
December 05 2013, 09:28AM
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I forget how good Giordano really is until he returns after being out for so long..

I thought Baertchi was playing well last night too, I saw him making an effort in all three zones.. but then he was riding the pine for much of the third. Was that on purpose? Or was it because Stajan was such a beast last night?

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#20 Bean-counting cowboy
December 05 2013, 09:50AM
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TRAV wrote:

Good all around effort.

Sometimes it,s amazing to me how many comments always seem to revert back to Backlund and McGratton.

An interesting advanced stat might be to investigate how many posts mention Backlund or Grats. It almost makes me long for the heated Jankowski discussion.

Our pk has been exceptional last while. Gotta think that Cammy Stemps and Stajan are increasing value. Org has an interesting decision about the proper mix of vets versus rookies to further the development.

I found Butlers recent Corsi interesting. His numbers are really improving after last years horrible performance. He's playing pretty decent minutes too. Is there any value here in keeping or trading him?

Ramo has given us great back to back starts. Let's give him a nice run so we can evaluate and as a bonus win...

Love this teams compete level but that start was pretty horrible.

Out of those three vets, I think a lot will depend on the players themselves as far as staying or going. I think Cammy for sure is gone. If one or both of Stajan and Stempniak express a desire for a 2 - 3 year deal to bridge the rebuild I think the org tries to make it work for them.

Personally I would like to see Stemp stay and Stajan go just because we are thinner at RW and it would give Backlund more minutes. If the org goofs and trades Backlund, then I don't mind Stajan staying.

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#21 Tenbrucelees
December 05 2013, 03:36PM
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The pile on seems to be this site's shtick.

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#22 mattyc
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I thought the minutes were pretty much in line with what I would have expected last night... The minutes are a little skewed because when we made it 4-1 Hartley basically started giving extra ice to the lower lines. (which is reasonable imo).

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#23 wineeditor
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Tenbrucelees wrote:

The pile on seems to be this site's shtick.

It gets worse.

Over the last 1/3 of the season.

Bscklund has had more shifts than Colborne (193-171).

Backlunds % of Defensive Zone Face offs to Total Faceoffs is 39.5 while Colbornes is 40.4

Backlunds D Zone faceoffs to total shifts played is 17.7% while Colbornes is 23.4%

For the purpose of the stats I only used Face off stats there could be times when Colborne or Backlund was on the ice for a D zone faceoff which I didn't credit.

So much for Backlund getting easier minutes although for offensive production it is true that their minutes are skewed with Backlund playing PK and Colborne PP.

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#24 Bring Back Tim Hunter
December 05 2013, 08:37PM
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I too hope Hartley can get past his Berra bias and open his eyes. It's clear that Ramo is more polished and needs to be in the net the majority of time for this team to compete. Berra might be a serviceable back-up someday, but I'd prefer to run with Ramo for a while.

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