Flames Weekend Guide, February 1 2013

Ryan Pike
February 01 2013 01:44PM

 

 

Once more, there is all kinds of hockey going on. Junior and European teams jockey for playoff spots, while professional teams are still just trying to find their legs.

NHL

The Flames get back into the saddle on Saturday night, when they face the Chicago Blackhawks. The team will be trying to get back into the win column after Thursday's disappointing result. Chicago has yet to lose in regulation.

AHL/ECHL
 

The Abbotsford Heat visit the Lake Erie Monster (Colorado's farm team) on Friday and the Grand Rapids Griffins (Detroit's farm team) on Saturday. Meanwhile, on the farm team's farm team, the Utah Grizzlies visit the Ontario Reign on Friday and Saturday. Utah is the third-worst team in the ECHL.

JUNIOR

The Edmonton Oil Kings (home of Laurent Brossoit) hosts Swift Current (and Coda Gordon) on Friday and then visits Medicine Hat on Saturday. The Saskatoon Blades (and Michael Ferland) host the Calgary Hitmen on Friday and then Swift Current on Saturday.

Tyler Wotherspoon's Portland Winterhawks visit Seattle on Friday and then host Spokane on Saturday. Brett Kulak's Vancouver Giants have a home-and-home with Kelowna on Friday and Saturday. Turner Elson's Red Deer Rebels visit Lethbridge on Friday.

Windsor (and Patrick Sieloff) have a home-and-home with Guelph on Friday and Sunday. Ryan Culkin's Quebec Remparts host Drummondville on Friday ad Blainville-Boisbriand on Saturday.

COLLEGE

Boston College and Providence College each play once this week. Gaudreau, Arnold and their team play Vermont on Friday. Jankowski, Gillies and their team play Maine on Friday. Boston College also begins the Beanpot in Boston on Monday night against those stuffed shirts from Harvard.

The Wisconsin Badgers (captained by John Ramage) play North Dakota on Friday and Saturday. The Notre Dame Fighting Irish (and Nick Larson) face Ohio State on Friday and Saturday. Finally, Matt DeBlouw's Michigan State Spartans play a home-and-home with Michigan on Friday and Saturday, with the Saturday game being played in Joe Louis Arena.

EUROPE

Avangard Omsk (and Karri Ramo) is off this weekend. They lost on last Friday evening against Barys.

Avangard has two games remaining in the regular season, against SKA on February 15 and Dynamo Moscow on February 17. They've clinched the top playoff spot in the East and will face the eighth place team in the first round.

Markus Granlund, Joni Ortio and HIFK Helsinki plays the Espoo Blues on Saturday, then the entire league is off for a ten day break.

 

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Now in his third full season covering the Calgary Flames and the NHL, Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's trying to keep his head up, his stick on the ice and is giving it 110% every shift. You can also find his work at The Hockey Writers, the Wrestling Observer and Tough Talk MMA.
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#1 Baalzamon
February 01 2013, 01:50PM
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Last weekend wasn't so good for the college boys. Hopefully, they do better this time around.

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#2 Baalzamon
February 01 2013, 01:54PM
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Also, Granlund is apparently only shooting at 5.6% even with his recent scoring binge. Interesting. Does that mean he's still a little unlucky, or is he just that bad a shooter?

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#3 Kent Wilson
February 01 2013, 01:57PM
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@Baalzamon

Probably unlucky. Almost no capable pro forward is a true 5.6% shooter.

His points have started to come in the second half of the year here. He's now third on his team.

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#4 Parallex
February 01 2013, 02:02PM
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Anyone else hoping that Avangard Omsk get's swept in the KHL finals by a 1-0 score? Want to get Ramo signed.

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#5 Kent Wilson
February 01 2013, 02:05PM
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@Parallex

It's entirely possible he'd have to go through waivers in order for the Flames to add him to the roster this season. And I doubt he'd make it through waivers.

If so, there's no rush to get him inked.

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#6 T&A4Flames
February 01 2013, 02:10PM
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"Chicago has yet to lose in regulation."

Game ...............Win .......Loss

CGY vs. CHI ....................X

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#7 rickithebear
February 01 2013, 02:21PM
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Kent definatley no rush to sign for this year:

After the flames game (Oilersfan but vested interest in both), Niel Smith (involved nhl data support company) said.

No team 5 points down @ mid way makes the playoffs. I wondered if that was a reference to pt structure. Calgary is 5 pts out with 43 Games to play.

Teams need 56 pts in a 48GM season to make the playoffs in WC.

54 in the east.

In a 48 game season a team will usually have 6 ovetime losses.

The flames are 1-3-1.

with the expected 6 OTL we can think 1W-3L-6 OTL 8 points. in this group of ten games.

That leaves 38 games remaining that will be outright decisions (wins or losses). The flames will need 48 points from this group to hit 56 points.

They will need to go 24-14 in these 38 outright Games. 10 games above 500.

But if we have a diffrent OTL count? 1-3-1 have to go 27-16 to be 57PT 11GM over 1-3-2 have to go 26-16 to be 56PT 10GM over 1-3-3 have to go 26-15 to be 57PT 11GM over 1-3-4 have to go 25-15 to be 56PT 10GM over 1-3-5 have to go 25-14 to be 57PT 11GM over 1-3-6 have to go 24-14 to be 56PT 10GM over 1-3-7 have to go 24-13 to be 57PT 11GM over 1-3-8 have to go 23-13 to be 56PT 10GM over 1-3-9 have to go 23-12 to be 57PT 11GM over

I think Neil Smith is correct!

5 games in the flames have to play like a 105 pt season team to make the Playoffs

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#8 Parallex
February 01 2013, 02:33PM
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@Kent Wilson

Best give up your dreams of O'Reilly then because he'd be the same would he not? I mean O'Reilly signed and played with Metallurg Magnitogorsk, a KHL team he is currently an unsigned RFA in the NHL... Karri Ramo was signed and played with Avangard Omsk, a KHL team, and is also an unsigned RFA in the NHL. The situation is pretty much exactly the same.

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#9 Kent Wilson
February 01 2013, 03:03PM
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Looks like that rule ONLY applies to UFA's, so Ramo indeed would be eligible to join the Flames this year.

Veeerrryyy interesting.

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#11 Parallex
February 01 2013, 03:15PM
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So... let's all hope then that Avangard Omsk get's swept out of the KHL playoffs in the first round by scores of 1-0 shall we :)

This team could use some goaltending help (or alternatively it could use whatever we could get in trade for Kiprusoff before he completely burns whatever extra cred his reputation still provides).

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#13 SmellOfVictory
February 02 2013, 09:42AM
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Ryan Pike wrote:

-Saskatoon beat Calgary 6-0. Ferland had 2 assists.
-Edmonton beat Swift Current 3-0. Brossoit had 23 saves for the shutout. Gordon had zero points for the Broncos.
-Lethbridge beat Red Deer 3-2. Elson had an assist.
-Kelowna beat Vancouver 5-1. Kulak had zero points.
-Portland beat Seattle 5-3. Wotherspoon had an assist.
-Quebec beat Drummondville 5-3. Culkin had 2 assists.
-Windsor beat Guelph 3-1. Sieloff missed the game due to injury.
-Boston College beat Vermont 4-1. Gaudreau had a goal and an assist. Arnold had an assist.
-Providence College tied Maine 2-2. Jankowski had a goal and Gillies made 26 saves.

Thanks, buddy! I was about to run around trying to round up all this for myself when I read your update. Saved me a good deal of time.

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#14 Kent Wilson
February 02 2013, 09:56AM
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Boston College beat Vermont 4-1. Gaudreau had a goal and an assist.

Huzzah! Gaudreau now has 33 points in just 21 games. He was blanked last week, but that's still an NHLE of 53.

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#15 Baalzamon
February 02 2013, 10:28AM
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"-Kelowna beat Vancouver 5-1. Kulak had zero points."

He also, amazingly, had an even rating (as did Gordon).

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#16 Kevin R
February 02 2013, 11:38AM
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Well, I have an obnoxious buddy(living in Spruce Grove no less) who texts me daily about the power house of his Chicago Black Hawks. I was goaded into a stupid bet with him for tonights game. I just had a feeling we play pretty good after the last one & take down a top team. You can almost feel it coming. But man, if we lose, a 1-4-1 record, 30th place in the league after just 6 games, I dont think these fragile old vets need that kind of gorrilla on their shoulders so soon. Feaster & Iggy were trying to difuse the speculation with his contract early, I wonder if our record continues to slide into the depths of the bottom of the league, how those actual negotiations are even going to unfold & will they even get started. A loss tonight & the gorrilla is going to start to look bigger. Will another Kipper dud mean we see Leiland the next game?

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#17 schevvy
February 02 2013, 12:00PM
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"Lethbridge beat Red Deer 3-2. Elson had an assist."

Great game. Attended it last night. Thought Elson was nearly invisible, his assist was a 2nd assist on a mad scramble. Didn't make any real mistakes either though, unlike Dumba, who did score but also turned the puck over to lead to the tying SH goal for Lethbridge.

As a side note, it was good to see good ol' Brent behind the bench again! Missed him...

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#18 FireOnIce
February 02 2013, 12:44PM
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@Kevin R

Scuttlebutt has it that Iginla has been offered 2 different extensions in the past year or so. He declined both of them for whatever reason, be it CBA or not wanting to be on a losing team anymore. So, whatever face they put to the contract negotiations, just remember that this incident may or may not have happened.

I wouldn't expect Iginla to sign here again. Unless the Flames win the Cup this season (they won't), I don't see Iginla re-signing here for next season. Unless he gets paid $10M per season for 8 or 9 more seasons.

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#19 chillout
February 02 2013, 01:14PM
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Friend of mine got punched in the back head by a vancouver fan last season at the dome, it knocked her out and gave her a concussion(she was just standing in line to get food minding her own business when the flames scored and the van fan took it out on her) . Flames offered her a signed jersey from anyone so she said Iginla. They got all awkward and said maybe you want somebody else hinting that he wouldn't be there for very long.

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#20 Deaner_
February 02 2013, 01:35PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

"-Kelowna beat Vancouver 5-1. Kulak had zero points."

He also, amazingly, had an even rating (as did Gordon).

Kulak was by far the best giant on the ice last night, the rest of the team was awful, he was 3rd star and had some solid forays in the offensive zone, created chances but no finishers on this team. His only real defensive gaff in the game was a ill advised hip check attempt in late in the 3rd when the game was already out of hand. Another good game from a very good player on a sh!t team.

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#21 Kevin R
February 02 2013, 01:39PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

Scuttlebutt has it that Iginla has been offered 2 different extensions in the past year or so. He declined both of them for whatever reason, be it CBA or not wanting to be on a losing team anymore. So, whatever face they put to the contract negotiations, just remember that this incident may or may not have happened.

I wouldn't expect Iginla to sign here again. Unless the Flames win the Cup this season (they won't), I don't see Iginla re-signing here for next season. Unless he gets paid $10M per season for 8 or 9 more seasons.

Yeah, I really think in his heart he needs a change (unless thrown a rediculous amount of money) & I have heard from unreliable sources he has had personal issues that a change of address wouldnt hurt his situation, even if it was for a playoff run period of time. Thats the problem with franchise players, everything gets scrutinized & over analysed & the rumours just run wild. I think it would be a way tougher decision if the Flames were off & running & winning games. If we are out of playoffs, it will be a no brainer decision for a trade deadline deal for Iggy & I honestly dont see an extension being done before the trade deadline. Feaster literally has no choice.

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#22 ChinookArch
February 02 2013, 02:20PM
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Mike Keenan emphatically stated that Igina would not leave Calgary, in the TSN preseason analysis a few weeks ago. While I'm sure that was true when Mike coached here, the situation is very different. I believe Iginla will be gone for no other reason than he wants to win a cup. I just hope, if this is correct that the Flames trade him away, instead of him just leaving with no return,

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#23 Captain Ron
February 02 2013, 06:54PM
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Kevin R wrote:

Yeah, I really think in his heart he needs a change (unless thrown a rediculous amount of money) & I have heard from unreliable sources he has had personal issues that a change of address wouldnt hurt his situation, even if it was for a playoff run period of time. Thats the problem with franchise players, everything gets scrutinized & over analysed & the rumours just run wild. I think it would be a way tougher decision if the Flames were off & running & winning games. If we are out of playoffs, it will be a no brainer decision for a trade deadline deal for Iggy & I honestly dont see an extension being done before the trade deadline. Feaster literally has no choice.

I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that I had heard some things about Iggy that I would share. The source was a buddy of mine who's job puts him shoulder to shoulder with sports and entertainment people from time to time. While at my place over the holidays he relayed to me some things he was told by one former Flame coach who eagerly bent his ear for a while over a couple of beers. Showed me a picture another buddy of his took while the two were talking to back it up. With regards to Iggy the ex coach did not think the Flames would win the cup with him on the team. He said that Iggy would often tell the team they were going to do things differently once he left the room. There were confrontations with him from time to time. He also said that he did not think the Flames would move Iginla and they would do what they could to try to keep him here for the rest of his career. My buddy did caution that he was also told by someone that night that what this particular ex coach said when he is having a couple of brew should be taken with a grain of salt. With regard to personal issues my buddy was also told by someone else that lockout life at home may not have been the best of times for Iginla and he was pretty happy to get back to playing again. Maybe there is something to that story. When looking at Iginla's career here he really hasn't had a lot of adversity to deal with that I can remember.

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