Post-Game: Fallen Uncles

Justin Azevedo
February 20 2013 11:26PM

For whatever reason, games between the Kings and Flames haven’t been the most interesting of contests these past few years. That didn’t change tonight, as both teams doddered their way to a 3-1 decision in favour of the Kings.

While Calgary eventually outchanced the Kings 18-14 and were only outshot by a small margin (27-33, both of which can be blamed on score effects), the reality is the effort displayed by the Flames tonight was sub-par at best.

The Rundown

Dustin Brown opened the scoring with the Kings’ 7th shot less than 7 minutes into the game. Hard to blame that one on MacDonald, as there was 4 Flames just sitting in front of the net when the goal was scored. The ice was pretty one-sided to start with, but that shouldn’t surprise anyone: the Kings seem to have issues scoring but they haven’t had issues outshooting teams since Darryl Sutter took over. A nice little dangle by TJ Brodie around the 9-minute mark resulted in a chance but Bernier turned the puck away quite easily. Another chance for the Flames developed after a Voynov giveaway right in front of the Kings’ net, leading to both Iginla and Cammalleri whacking at the puck; but to no avail.

The Flames finally broke through when Iginla completely dominated Voynov down low, getting the puck to Brodie in the slot and Brodie sniped one right past Bernier for his first of the year. Iginla picked up his 9th assist of the year on the play. The Kings would respond quickly afterwards as Trevor Lewis took advantage of a huge rebound, putting it just out of reach of MacDonald’s blocker. Shots would finish 8-11, as the Kings would only muster 4 shots in the final 13 minutes of the period. Chances ended up being 8-5 for the Flames, meaning LA’s early dominance didn’t quite continue throughout the whole period.

The first few minutes of the second were pretty uneventful until Trevor Lewis decided to bowl over MacDonald, prompting this tweet from Eric Francis:

What a moron. You want to know what’s better than two goons beating each other? A goal on the PP.

Regardless, a couple brutal penalty calls later the Kings unleashed a flurry of chances on the Calgary net, but MacDonald made a couple of stops and absolutely robbed Anze Kopitar. Props to Matt Stajan on the PK as well, clearing a couple of good chances out of the zone. The period would continue to be back and forth, without much of note happening. Shots in the period would be 7-12 and chances were 2-7 in favour of the Kings.

The Flames started the third off badly; being gifted a PP and then proceeding to spend as much time in their own zone as they did in the Kings’ zone. Neither team mustered much of anything until the 7 minute mark when Jeff Carter streaked down the sidewall and fired a puck high blocker side on MacDonald. MacDonald would make that stop, but about 2 minutes later Carter would redeem himself as his wrist shot just snuck through the five hole of JMac, giving the Kings a 3-1 lead. 

MacDonald would make another strong stop with about 8 minutes left, coming across the net to rob Jake Muzzin of an easy tap-in. Bernier would respond with a big save of his own, shutting the door on Mike Cammalleri right in front of the net. The Flames would press a little as the period wound down, but it was all for naught as the Kings would win 3-1. Shots in the period were 12-10 and chances were 8-2, both in favour of the Flames.

Why the Flames Lost...

Pretty simple: they were chasing too much of the game because Los Angeles is a better team. There were some good efforts by a few Flames players, but "good efforts" from a "few" guys isn't going to win you games at the NHL level, unless those guys are Crosby, Giroux, Stamkos and Weber.

Firestarter

I’m going to give this one to Joey MacDonald, as he made a couple of nice stops and the team hung him out to dry a pretty significant amount tonight. Iginla and Brodie receive honourable mentions.

Sum It Up

The boobirds rained down after the game, and I can’t say I’m surprised about it. Earlier in the year, the Flames were outchancing their opponents and losing, and I guess I was okay with that. However, the past couple of games haven’t followed that script. They’ve been outchanced, outshot and outscored and I’m left wondering what else the team can do to compete this year. Maybe a bit doom-and-gloom, but unless Kiprusoff comes back and the team can string some wins together with league-average (or close to it) goaltending, I can’t see how they’ll make any kind of dent in the playoff picture.

The forwards and defenders have been good enough thus far, but the goaltending hasn’t. I think it’s just a matter of hoping the goaltending situation will improve quickly at this point.

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Justin is a 22-year-old Flames fan who also happens to be pursuing a double major at the University of Calgary. He has played hockey at high levels, enjoys wearing shorts and tends to drink far too much Grasshopper. Please don't hate him.
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#51 jeremywilhelm
February 21 2013, 11:53AM
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@shutout

edit: Never mind, not worth it.

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#52 the-wolf
February 21 2013, 12:10PM
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icedawg_42 wrote:

5 things...from me:

1. I think Feaster's plan for Hudler was to bring in not only his skill level, but in hopes that Detroit's winning pedigree would rub off in the room - I think the Flames 'content to lose' attitude is starting to rub off on him

2. I think that Iggy's trade value may be significantly tarnished right now just due to his not doing anything right.

I think that Kipper's trade value may be boosted by the Flames record and performance without him - their lackluster performance makes it look like they can't survive without him. Of course on the flipside, his value could also be significantly tarnished due to the rumors of his early retirement at the end of the season. Even if it's only rumors, it would leave a potential partner wondering

3. We all scoff at the idea of tanking on purpose to win a high draft pick aka the Edmonton route..whether they mean to do it or not, we're witnessing it right now and it's not going to get better. Kipper's injury is the best thing that could have happened to this franchise. It has exposed this team for what it really is.

4. I've always been Iggy's biggest fan, but his play is seriously making me feel like the team needs a new captain. If he's so content to coast and be ok with losing, then he NEEDS to not be a leader.

5. I only have one question for Schevvy and Vintage: TEH?

1) Yup, but I still think part is natural regression.

2) Not so sure this really matters to GM's looking to get him. GM's are famous for thinking a change of scenerey with their team and with the right players will cure all ills. Especially if there's a bit of a bidding war for him.

3) Everyone keeps saying this, but really, didn't everybody already know it? Even Feaster stated it last year with his "worse than 30th" remark.

4) I said the EXACT same thing. But 4 years ago.

5) No idea either.

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#53 negrilcowboy
February 21 2013, 12:14PM
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I hope people don't get their hopes up on a massive return though for Iggy and Kipper. For Iggy: middling prospect + a 1st. For Kipper: a 2nd and MAYBE a lower end prospect

Kipper to the leafs for any multitude of their young d corp. blacker, finn, they have a ton of prospects eith in junior or first year pro. makes jbo more expendable. i say scorched earth policy with the emphasis on size speed and truculence.

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#54 the-wolf
February 21 2013, 12:42PM
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Kipper to the leafs for any multitude of their young d corp. blacker, finn, they have a ton of prospects eith in junior or first year pro. makes jbo more expendable. i say scorched earth policy with the emphasis on size speed and truculence.

Please don't say "truculaence," it gives me Burke flashbacks:)

IMO TO tries to go the St. Louis route what with Scrivens racking up shutouts and Reimer playing well.

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#55 schevvy
February 21 2013, 12:49PM
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TEH!

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#56 jeremywilhelm
February 21 2013, 01:11PM
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Yeah scorched earth! It's works so well, it worked for... uh, who's done scorched earth successfully?

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#57 schevvy
February 21 2013, 01:13PM
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Yeah scorched earth! It's works so well, it worked for... uh, who's done scorched earth successfully?

I don't necessarily support it, but Pittsburgh and Chicago are two examples of success stories

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#58 jeremywilhelm
February 21 2013, 01:27PM
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Did they scorched earth? Or did they just sh!t the bed for a couple years?

Who did they trade away?

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#59 Kent Wilson
February 21 2013, 01:56PM
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My feelings haven't changed since I posted this. I think there are some pieces here and the team doesn't to burn the entire thing down to kick start a retool.

If the decision makers can be calm, strategic and maybe win a calculated gamble or tow over the next 6-12 months, the Flames could be leaner in terms of cap commitments, as well as younger with more future assets and still be able to compete.

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#60 the-wolf
February 21 2013, 02:13PM
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jeremywilhelm wrote:

Did they scorched earth? Or did they just sh!t the bed for a couple years?

Who did they trade away?

Does it really matter? Detroit also sucked to get Yzerman. Bottom feeders who became great, but you need that base first. Doesn't really matter how you get there. Calgary though, will eventually get there.

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#61 vowswithin
February 21 2013, 02:16PM
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I still like my plan to "Retool" Best

1) Kipper to Was for first 2) Iggy to Pits for first + prospect 3) we will suck and have a top 5 4) Jbo to whoever 1st + something 5) Stemp or Glenx + Jankowski + 2nd for ROR 6) possible picks for playoff backup like sarich, or babs, or irving anything! a 7 a 5 whatever...

Imagine that 1 of our 4 picks end up a lottery? Ours could be a top 5 and Washington's could be a top five.

I get this is a best scenario but we still get to keep some good pieces and could still be competitive.

in two years Centers could be 1) Mack 2) RoR 3) Backs 4) ? Arnold?

Go ahead rip on my brainchild.....

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#62 negrilcowboy
February 21 2013, 02:43PM
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jeremywilhelm wrote:

Did they scorched earth? Or did they just sh!t the bed for a couple years?

Who did they trade away?

With all your brilliance and knowledge its a cryin shame the flames don't tap into your devine wisdom. surely you would lead the feasterites to the promised land.

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#63 jeremywilhelm
February 21 2013, 03:08PM
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Good one. I see you were able to pull the few brain cells you have together to almost form a close to decent English sentence for once. Kudos!

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#64 jeremywilhelm
February 21 2013, 03:11PM
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From what I have read now recently after you said it, it looks like Chicago and Pittsburgh suffered from incompetent owners and or bad luck for a few years. Nothing in their trade history indicates a scorched earth plan.

The only teams that have seemed to sell assets for nothing in an attempt at scorched earth are the Thrashers and the Islanders, and neither team seems to be much better for doing it.

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#65 Vintage Flame
February 21 2013, 03:24PM
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Guys.. needless to say, everyone is upset with the team, players management.. whatever..

let's try and keep it civil with EACHOTHER.

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#66 negrilcowboy
February 21 2013, 04:01PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Guys.. needless to say, everyone is upset with the team, players management.. whatever..

let's try and keep it civil with EACHOTHER.

Agreed, but its more fun inflating jeremy's ego.

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#67 MC Hockey
February 21 2013, 04:55PM
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vowswithin wrote:

I still like my plan to "Retool" Best

1) Kipper to Was for first 2) Iggy to Pits for first + prospect 3) we will suck and have a top 5 4) Jbo to whoever 1st + something 5) Stemp or Glenx + Jankowski + 2nd for ROR 6) possible picks for playoff backup like sarich, or babs, or irving anything! a 7 a 5 whatever...

Imagine that 1 of our 4 picks end up a lottery? Ours could be a top 5 and Washington's could be a top five.

I get this is a best scenario but we still get to keep some good pieces and could still be competitive.

in two years Centers could be 1) Mack 2) RoR 3) Backs 4) ? Arnold?

Go ahead rip on my brainchild.....

Not horrible plans at all, very nice...but a bit idealistic. Do your really think all those trades could happen given that even great players are de-valued when they play on a bad team? Think about it: If Iggy and Kipper and JayBo and GlenX are so great, why aren't the Flames doing better? I think Flames would be fortunate to make one of those trades happen. But I like the thinking, just don't believe more than 1 or 2 of those transactions will happen with such excellent returns back to the Flames.

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#68 Vowswithin
February 22 2013, 07:56AM
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Not horrible plans at all, very nice...but a bit idealistic. Do your really think all those trades could happen given that even great players are de-valued when they play on a bad team? Think about it: If Iggy and Kipper and JayBo and GlenX are so great, why aren't the Flames doing better? I think Flames would be fortunate to make one of those trades happen. But I like the thinking, just don't believe more than 1 or 2 of those transactions will happen with such excellent returns back to the Flames.

I think maybe the kipper and ROR trades are unlikely. I think iggy has the demand, and jbo as he's a 25+ min top pairing guy.

But i did read somewhere washing is getting a bit desperate now to do something that can shake things up, with emphasis on GOALIES Have sucked. I must say i do get the feeling that after what we have seen so far management will be scared to move kipper. Hope he tells them if he's jot planning to return ao they can try and dump him for a pic.

ROR most unlikely because we are a contender and they don't want us getting better and to have to face ror a bunch of times every year.

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#69 Jeff In Lethbridge
February 22 2013, 10:24AM
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here is one guy that doesn't want RoR... what a joke and pile of nonsense drama

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