Breaking - Flames FInally Offer Sheet O'Reilly
Kent Wilson
February 28 2013 03:56PM
According to Darren Dreger on twitter.
We've covered why this is a good idea here.
More as this develops.
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I just pooped.
edit: hollllyyyyyyyy ffffffffkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - ed.
Apparently the offer is for 2 years with an average of $5M per. I don't know why they'd only limit it to 2 years given it increases the chances the Avs match, but...at least they're trying.
YES!!!
Holy carp.
This totally excuses the McGratten trade
I thought for sure this was a sarcastic humour piece. Is serious?!?
Omg I'm in shock
@mk
Yup. THEY ACTUALLY DID IT.
No more first rounders anymore, Better make the Playoffs!!!
How long do the Avs have to match?
Nathan MacKinnon or Seth Jones to the Avalanche.
If the Avs dont match what do we give up.... sounds like the way it was built it will be a 2nd and 3rd. Am I right?
@schevvy
48 hours is my guess.
What a S#$tshow. Are you serious?
So much for getting a lottery pick. Glad we can build our future core around a guy who is 1 year removed from 20pts. And at his best got 55pts.
Feaster is a total idiot. well, at least we know where the team stands. Going all in on 8th place. Cause you never know baby! Right Feaster.
I'm just praying Colorado matches.
@Fats
First and third if they walk away.
What is the compensation paid for $5M AAV?
Edit: I see everyone got to that before I posted. Interesting...
@kentwilson
I was excited to when i first heard it on TSN radio until I heard two years. Avs will probably match and then trade him to someone else. They don't want him in the same division. Atleast we are trying to do something positive.
Avs will match, then trade him to Flames for McGratten.
conspiracy! this is just to deflect on the mcgrattin signing.
O'Reilly is 21!! He's not an old guy. Most likely better than most picks in the draft this year. And he's a centre.
Oh this could go horribly wrong!! Doubt the Avs match, they will just want to screw us out of the picks!!! We better make the playoffs now!!
I'm glad they did... but I'm surprised at only two years! Avs will match...
26 pts 26 pts 55 pts (18 goals)
Only in Calgary does a couple of 20pt seasons followed by a 55pt one with only 18goals get you $5 million bucks.
And we laughed at the Oilers signing Hemsky for 5 million (a proven PPG player when healthy).
Should have offered at least three years..
I'm sure any other team can do better..
@schevvy
A lot of players peak at 21!!! Patrice Bergeron hasn't come close to his point totals at 21. This draft is loaded, all 30 first rounders have the potential to be stars!!! We better not give away a Top. 10 Draft Pick!!!
@Kurt
He's played 3 years for Christ sakes. Jeez
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
As per @DarrenDreger, Flames sign Ryan O'Reilly to offer sheet, two years, $10 M. Key is Year 2 at $6.5 M; that's big QO in two years
Qualifying offer would need to be $6.8M in two years. That is a lot of money for a guy that is not a superstar center.
If the Avalanche match then they cant trade O'Reilly for one year if I understand correctly. Or is it they just cant trade him to the Flames for one year?
@McRib
Very, very few players peak at 21. I'm sure Kent will back me up on this
I'd take O'Reilly for two years at 5 mil over Hemsky anyday. He's had one season with over 50 games played since 08/09.
Wow, this is great. Interesting that it happens a few hours before the Avs play the Flames.
@Kurt
He led the Avs in ice time, quality of competition, points and possession last year. At 20 years old.
That is a high level player.
Great move!!! My only concern is the limited term of 2 yrs. He could walk in 2 years and we lost 2 high drafts in a deep draft!
The one thing that might deter them is the qualifying offer after year 2. It will have to be at least $6.5M because that's his salary in the second year (and he'll still be RFA). They probably won't want to do that.
If so, then the Flames put together a very clever offer sheet.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie OK, here's everything you need to know about the CGY offer sheet on Ryan O'Reilly:
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie COL has 7 days to match the offer or accept compensation of CGY's 1st round pick and CGY's 3rd round pick.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie If COL matches the offer, COL cannot trade O'Reilly for one calendar year from day it matches the offer.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie Structure of deal designed to deter COL. That includes getting a $2.5M signing bonus now and a really low salary ($1M) rest of season.
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie Kicker, tho, is $6.5M salary next season. Ignoring ROR's arb rights, COL would have to qualify him at $6.5M upon expiry of this deal.
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger A very aggressive move by the Flames. However, other GM's suggest Colorado could have fetched more than a 1st and 3rd via trade.
The bottom line is that this guy is no elite superstar to lead the team. They needed it. The only way as the draft, but the org clearly is hell bent on grinding it out with this useless core of crap. Don't get me wrong, he is a great player. But he isn't ELITE. This year was our chance to draft an elite player.
Correct me if I'm wrong but we won't have any picks in the first 3 rounds this year? What if the wheels fall off and we end up in the lottery. It'll be awesome to not even have our own pick.
#FAIL
Wait, a first and third? Wow.
I would guess this means Feaster will be determined to get a 1st back somehow then. I would guess that means Iggy is gone.
GREAT MOVE!!! does more than his points say... but he 21 and only getting better.
I think the Avs match it but great move by Jay either way
If they match, they can't trade him for a year. Do they want hanging around like an unhappy smell for 12 months?
@Primo
He's still RFA in two years.
@Kurt
no, he is. you're wrong. sorry.
Kent you are a genius.
Glad Flames are trying and will be interesting to see what happens...so does ROR have to wait the full 7 days to play for Flames (I assume yes)!
@Reidja
My mom certainly thinks so.
I can at least back this move, even though I honestly believe that almost any time a player has signed an offer the sheet the smarter thing has been to take the compensation.
In O'Reilly's case I believe this to be true, but it does assertively address an organizational need.
What are the odds the AVs match??? Damn, this is exciting
That is a huge QO, though. Basically means you've got to get him re-signed prior to him hitting RFA status or you're paying a lot of money (more than he's likely worth at that point).
@RexLibris
The only way a first and third is worth more to the Flames than O'Reilly down the road is if they finish in the lottery this year and the kid they could have picked becomes a Tavares or better level superstar.
Wow! Daddy likely! I'm thinking jay and the avs gm are in on this together. This helps both teams as calgary needs a top centre and the avs recoup a first and a 3rd. Avs save face big time with the public and both are happy. Avs will match em though!
This is a brilliant move by Feaster and co.!
We either get a young, physical 2nd line center with offense, who can play hard minutes (our own Ryan Kesler!), or we kick a cash strapped rival in the teeth with an artfully constructed contract.
Love. This. Move.
Bears repeating.