Breaking - Flames FInally Offer Sheet O'Reilly

Kent Wilson
February 28 2013 03:56PM

 

 

According to Darren Dreger on twitter.

We've covered why this is a good idea here.

More as this develops.

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#3 Scary Gary
February 28 2013, 05:31PM
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Big Cap wrote:

Yes I do believe they will finish bottom 10.

Your 3 game point steak will not continue all season.

What will happen with Iggy at the Deadline?

Is Joey macDonald the long term answer?

To many questions...Not enough answers.

****And I say this as an Oiler fan who I realize have enough of our own problems to worry about.

Thanks for stopping by Mr. Positive! I guess when Hall and Nugent-Hopkins have 4 goals combined on the year you start trolling for kicks...

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#4 Monaertchi
February 28 2013, 04:07PM
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Avs will match, then trade him to Flames for McGratten.

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#5 NateBaldwin
February 28 2013, 04:08PM
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conspiracy! this is just to deflect on the mcgrattin signing.

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#6 Justin Azevedo
February 28 2013, 04:20PM
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@Kurt

no, he is. you're wrong. sorry.

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#7 RexLibris
February 28 2013, 04:25PM
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I can at least back this move, even though I honestly believe that almost any time a player has signed an offer the sheet the smarter thing has been to take the compensation.

In O'Reilly's case I believe this to be true, but it does assertively address an organizational need.

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#8 SmellOfVictory
February 28 2013, 04:27PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

He's still RFA in two years.

That is a huge QO, though. Basically means you've got to get him re-signed prior to him hitting RFA status or you're paying a lot of money (more than he's likely worth at that point).

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#9 RED 31
February 28 2013, 04:57PM
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Thank goodness that the Jets wanted too much for Olli Jokinen!!!! This is BOLD and completely refreshing for a moribund franchise.

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#10 Big Cap
February 28 2013, 05:04PM
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I hate Feaster and I hate the Flames.

However, I give him mad props as at least he had the stones to go for it.

Our boy, Tambi, sits and waits and waits and waits....

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#11 BurningSensation
February 28 2013, 06:25PM
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So far the naysayers break down as being either Oilers fans, or Flames fans who think we aren't imitating the Oilers failing ways enough.

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#12 Willi P
February 28 2013, 07:49PM
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2 years was stupid IMO. Should have been 4 years.

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#13 McRib
February 28 2013, 07:49PM
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Still have our first rounder!!!!!!! WWWWOOOOOTTTTT!!

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#14 Kurt
February 28 2013, 07:50PM
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Thank goodness....

Nathan McKinnon is WAY better than Ryan OReilly.

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#15 Danger
February 28 2013, 07:52PM
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On the plus side, at least the Avs are now stuck paying what they refused to pay for a player who probably does not want to play for them, and they can't trade him, and he may be a free agent in just two years. With any luck, he'll remember who helped him get paid this time.

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#16 Captain Ron
February 28 2013, 07:56PM
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You are dreaming if you think we get McKinnon in the draft.

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#17 RexLibris
February 28 2013, 08:29PM
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Jai Kiran wrote:

@FireOnIce:

You're right, but that cheap owner is going to have to pay O'Reilly 6.8 mill and pay Duchene and Landeskog and Stastny (who's gotta be trade bait right now)...

Good point, now perhaps Feaster can come to Sherman with a trade proposal for Stastny.

With Colorado likely to be moving to a new division/conference next season, there shouldn't be as much reticence to trade to a northwest division partner.

Good for Feaster to have made the offer, but it will be better for the Flames in the long run to retain the picks.

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#18 SydScout
February 28 2013, 08:37PM
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Is this the straw that breaks the (very large Feasting) camels back? Now we missed that gilt edged opportunity to fix the centre and give Iggy a red hot go (ahem) at the Cup, trading he and Kipper for picks in a deep draft can now only be the most sensible option

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#19 MC Hockey
February 28 2013, 09:11PM
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SadFlamesFan wrote:

A completely stupid move by the Flames. It reeks of desperation on the part of the team and only serves to piss off every other GM in the league except in Phili. Unbelievable!!! The Flames ship is taking on water damned fast.

It only really pisses off Colorado as they have drawn out the process too long.

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#20 SmellOfVictory
February 28 2013, 09:11PM
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SadFlamesFan wrote:

A completely stupid move by the Flames. It reeks of desperation on the part of the team and only serves to piss off every other GM in the league except in Phili. Unbelievable!!! The Flames ship is taking on water damned fast.

The only GM it might've pissed off is Colorado's. And given the extended negotiations, I don't even know if he's mad about it.

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#21 jeremywilhelm
February 28 2013, 03:57PM
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I just pooped.

edit: hollllyyyyyyyy ffffffffkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - ed.

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#23 schevvy
February 28 2013, 03:58PM
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YES!!!

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#24 kittensandcookies
February 28 2013, 03:59PM
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Holy carp.

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#25 schevvy
February 28 2013, 04:00PM
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This totally excuses the McGratten trade

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#26 mk
February 28 2013, 04:00PM
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I thought for sure this was a sarcastic humour piece. Is serious?!?

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#27 schevvy
February 28 2013, 04:01PM
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Omg I'm in shock

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#29 McRib
February 28 2013, 04:03PM
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No more first rounders anymore, Better make the Playoffs!!!

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#30 schevvy
February 28 2013, 04:04PM
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How long do the Avs have to match?

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#31 Derzie
February 28 2013, 04:05PM
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Nathan MacKinnon or Seth Jones to the Avalanche.

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#32 Fats
February 28 2013, 04:05PM
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If the Avs dont match what do we give up.... sounds like the way it was built it will be a 2nd and 3rd. Am I right?

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#34 Kurt
February 28 2013, 04:06PM
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What a S#$tshow. Are you serious?

So much for getting a lottery pick. Glad we can build our future core around a guy who is 1 year removed from 20pts. And at his best got 55pts.

Feaster is a total idiot. well, at least we know where the team stands. Going all in on 8th place. Cause you never know baby! Right Feaster.

I'm just praying Colorado matches.

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#36 mk
February 28 2013, 04:06PM
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What is the compensation paid for $5M AAV?

Edit: I see everyone got to that before I posted. Interesting...

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#37 Stunner
February 28 2013, 04:06PM
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@kentwilson

I was excited to when i first heard it on TSN radio until I heard two years. Avs will probably match and then trade him to someone else. They don't want him in the same division. Atleast we are trying to do something positive.

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#38 schevvy
February 28 2013, 04:09PM
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Kurt wrote:

What a S#$tshow. Are you serious?

So much for getting a lottery pick. Glad we can build our future core around a guy who is 1 year removed from 20pts. And at his best got 55pts.

Feaster is a total idiot. well, at least we know where the team stands. Going all in on 8th place. Cause you never know baby! Right Feaster.

I'm just praying Colorado matches.

O'Reilly is 21!! He's not an old guy. Most likely better than most picks in the draft this year. And he's a centre.

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#39 McRib
February 28 2013, 04:10PM
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Derzie wrote:

Nathan MacKinnon or Seth Jones to the Avalanche.

Oh this could go horribly wrong!! Doubt the Avs match, they will just want to screw us out of the picks!!! We better make the playoffs now!!

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#40 backburner
February 28 2013, 04:10PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Apparently the offer is for 2 years with an average of $5M per. I don't know why they'd only limit it to 2 years given it increases the chances the Avs match, but...at least they're trying.

I'm glad they did... but I'm surprised at only two years! Avs will match...

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#41 Kurt
February 28 2013, 04:11PM
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26 pts 26 pts 55 pts (18 goals)

Only in Calgary does a couple of 20pt seasons followed by a 55pt one with only 18goals get you $5 million bucks.

And we laughed at the Oilers signing Hemsky for 5 million (a proven PPG player when healthy).

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#42 backburner
February 28 2013, 04:11PM
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Should have offered at least three years..

I'm sure any other team can do better..

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#43 McRib
February 28 2013, 04:12PM
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@schevvy

A lot of players peak at 21!!! Patrice Bergeron hasn't come close to his point totals at 21. This draft is loaded, all 30 first rounders have the potential to be stars!!! We better not give away a Top. 10 Draft Pick!!!

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#44 schevvy
February 28 2013, 04:12PM
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@Kurt

He's played 3 years for Christ sakes. Jeez

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#45 shutout
February 28 2013, 04:13PM
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Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

As per @DarrenDreger, Flames sign Ryan O'Reilly to offer sheet, two years, $10 M. Key is Year 2 at $6.5 M; that's big QO in two years

Qualifying offer would need to be $6.8M in two years. That is a lot of money for a guy that is not a superstar center.

If the Avalanche match then they cant trade O'Reilly for one year if I understand correctly. Or is it they just cant trade him to the Flames for one year?

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#46 schevvy
February 28 2013, 04:13PM
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@McRib

Very, very few players peak at 21. I'm sure Kent will back me up on this

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#47 Scary Gary
February 28 2013, 04:14PM
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Kurt wrote:

26 pts 26 pts 55 pts (18 goals)

Only in Calgary does a couple of 20pt seasons followed by a 55pt one with only 18goals get you $5 million bucks.

And we laughed at the Oilers signing Hemsky for 5 million (a proven PPG player when healthy).

I'd take O'Reilly for two years at 5 mil over Hemsky anyday. He's had one season with over 50 games played since 08/09.

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#48 lionlager
February 28 2013, 04:14PM
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Wow, this is great. Interesting that it happens a few hours before the Avs play the Flames.

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#50 Primo
February 28 2013, 04:16PM
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Great move!!! My only concern is the limited term of 2 yrs. He could walk in 2 years and we lost 2 high drafts in a deep draft!

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