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bookofloob
March 11 2013 03:15PM

 

Us too, Half, us too.

In what feels like, oh, 48 hours, your Calgary Flames are back at it tonight for the second leg of a back to back against those damned merciless Los Angeles Kings, who are looking to treat the boys in red as lower class serfs, existing only to do the bidding of the kingdom for a second game in a row. The Flames, amid swirling rumours that this game is potentially the straw that breaks the camel's back (the camel being GM Jay Feaster, and his back is a Jarome Iginla trade), look back to get back on track against an obviously very good LA squad to close out their California road trip with at least a little bit of pride intact.

We don't really need to talk about it (in fact, if you read the post game report for the last game, we literally provided no words for the effort), but suffice to say, the team is in the midst of a touch of turmoil these days. After an impressive couple of wins against tough opponents in Vancouver and San Jose, the Flames took to the road and put in a much better effort against the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim than the 4-0 score so unflatteringly reflected. But after Saturday's debacle, where Calgary's performance was even worse than Matthew Perry's on Hockey Night In Canada's After Hours, the team has shown once again that they are far too inconsistent to be seriously considering a playoff run in this, a shortened NHL campaign. 

Most seasons are long. Teams have time to smooth over the lumps that are the glaring faults in their game, and in an 82 game season, this iteration of the Flames could possibly be competitive enough to figure that out. But over the course of 48 is a different story, and the tolerance of stinkers like the 6-2 drubbing by LA two nights ago grows less and less. That's why many believe that THIS is the game that determines whether it's time for Calgary to pack it in and ship off everyone short of Harvey the Hound to other markets, or if the march towards 8th is earnestly born anew. #GOINGFORIT!

la alineación

The roster sheet has yet to be confirmed by anyone tonight, but there's a few things we do know. Curtis Glencross is still out, as he's nursing the effects of whatever injury he's suffering from that kept him out of the last tilt with the Kings. And Miikka Kiprusoff, who looked pretty damn abysmal against the Kings after dominating the Sharks, gets a rest tonight, maybe for a few games.

  • Hudler-Cammalleri-Iginla
  • Tanguay-Stajan-Stempniak
  • Comeau-Backlund-Cervenka
  • McGratton-Begin-Jackman

  • Brodie-Bouwmeester
  • Giordano-Wideman
  • Sarich-Butler

  • MacDonald

I, uh, well, whatever works, right??!

That's what Sportsnet's Roger Millions is calling his "best guess" for tonight based off of what he's seen in the morning skate, and if that's what we're seeing tonight, well, it's different, and that's the nicest thing we can say about that.

Of note, if these are indeed the lines, young and fabulous TJ Brodie has been given a promotion up to the first defensive pairing with Jay Bouwmeester, and that would be of particular interest for something to watch for. Brodie has been fairly impressive this season, and even though his game in the past 5 or 6 has regressed and earned him 3rd pairing responsibilities with whatever dead weight defenseman checked in beside him, he has truly been a pleasant surprise for the Flames this season. This is a big challenge for him, and it'll be quite the compelling storyline to see how he stacks up against the King's top line which is, I don't need to tell you, just a little bit potent. Having Bouwmeester line up next to him can only help Brodie, and we'll have to see how much slack Jay takes for his young partner, but either way, fun to watch.

That 4th line though. It hurts the heart.

UPDATE: Pat Steinberg has Brodie back down on the third pairing with Sarich. Let's split the difference and say he lines up with Giordano on the second set.

Los Reyes

I got nothing. Mike Richards appeared like he might be out of action after his blueline collision with Tim Jackman last game, speculation that was further amplified when the Kings called up 20 year old prospect Tyler Toffoli from Manchester. But all reports indicate that Richards was at practice Monday and good to go for today, so in the meantime, we'll go ahead and assume that the Kings haven't made any changes to their lineup that pretty thoroughly dismantled Calgary last weekend.

  • Williams-Kopitar-Brown
  • Penner-Carter-Richards
  • Lewis-Stoll-King
  • Clifford-Fraser-Nolan

  • Scuderi-Voynov
  • Doughty-Muzzin
  • Martinez-Ellerby

  • Quick

No word on whether or not Jonathan Quick gets the start in goal tonight, but one assumes he will, as he seems to be finding his form after his, let's say Kipper-esque start to the year.

The Kings do not need to make much in the way of changes. They're starting to look much like the team that ran over everyone in last spring's playoffs en route to their Stanley Cup victory, and they're doing so without having key cogs Willie Mitchell and Matt Greene on defense. So that's scary.

en suma

The Kings are good, and Calgary is going to have to throw everything they have at them to get this one done. I would not expect to see a lot of the 4th line, which is a logical notion to have, so this means that they'll probably play 11 minutes. Be ready for that. GRIT CHART SAYS IT'S HAPPENING

 

 

Loves us some grit chart, which will now become the site's on-going running joke indefinitely.

Jeff Carter is playing some of the best hockey of his career right now, so I think maybe a key to the game might be trying to neutralize him. You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

I don't know. Buckle up, it's going to be a ride. I know a lot of fans want to see the Flames get killed in this one and have everyone traded to fancy new cities, but a) that sucks, b) don't count on it. Personally, I'd like to see the flames show up with some pride and perform to a level we know they're capable of, but only show 30-40% of the time.

Game's at 8. SN West. Be there. Bueno. Vamos Llamas!

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The Book of Loob is the Nation's resident expert in flim-flammery and twaddle. An unabashed Flames fan, when BoL is not intellectually bankrupting Flames Nation, he can be seen rooting for Blair Jones, often to excess, at Book of Loob. Follow him on twitter here.
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#51 exsanguinator
March 11 2013, 05:33PM
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Jai Kiran wrote:

26th in the league, going into a game against the in-form Stanley Cup Champions, with 14 of 25 remaining games on the road. Sad to say it, but I'm hoping for the loss and the subsequent changes too.

We're gonna get a GREAT draft pick.

And then they will use that draft pick to trade down in the first round to draft some other kid that no one has ever heard of before.

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#52 Clay
March 11 2013, 05:37PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Flames need a centerman, right? And what former big name center who previously played under Feaster is probably available?

Yup. The Flames are trading for Vincent Lecavalier.

I don't like your tone... Kent.

I'd be angrier if I knew it wasn't true.

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#53 Clay
March 11 2013, 05:45PM
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bookofloob wrote:

I hate all of you so much right now

Flames 2014 "rebuild"

What do y'all think

Cammalleri - Lecavalier - Iginla Glencross - Tanguay - oh hell.... Comeau Bouma - pfft Begin - Jackman Rocky Thompson - Rocky Thompson - McGrattan

Out: Baertschi, Cervenka, Stempniak, Backlund because of #GRITCHART

Deals

We traded Gaudreau for Thompson, and the rest for a cloning machine to clone Thompson

We also traded 5 firsts, Ales Kotalik, and a 2nd for Lecavalier (Kotalik was a sign and trade)

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#54 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 06:20PM
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Kevin R wrote:

Anyone hear how Robert was after his call to Patty? He sounded like he was in trouble.

I thought of that because of all this bloody trade banter on here & the fact it could happen is stressing me the @#*% out!!!

I only have red wine to take my nitro pills with. Hope you are all happy!

was wondering the same thing, sounded fatal on saturday night. either that or the canoli was lodged in his windpipe. i tell you patti,pattti i tell you,i tell you patti.

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#55 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 06:28PM
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Is there a way for us to trade Brandon Prust again?

McGrattan for Prust straight up! Grit and toughness with no skill for Grit and toughness with some skill

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#56 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 06:34PM
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I am afraid it will be more of the same tonight as was from Saturday night. I think Sarich should try to line someone up (a la Marleau demolition from their first round playoff series 2008 when they were down 3-0 in the 1st period) and at least show some backbone.

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#57 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 07:05PM
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@Captain Ron

Also, Lecavalier isn't even that good anymore. He gets his points here and there, but is middling at even strength at best.

His might be the worst contract in the sport right now.

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#58 Alsker
March 11 2013, 07:14PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Also, Lecavalier isn't even that good anymore. He gets his points here and there, but is middling at even strength at best.

His might be the worst contract in the sport right now.

Really, worse than Depietro(spelling wrong im sure) on the island,at least #4 can still play

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#59 RSD
March 11 2013, 07:20PM
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We shouldn't be too surprised if Feaster did trade our 1st and whatever to get Vincent Lecavalier, he almost traded our 1st & 3rd for nothing, with that in mind at least we would be getting SOMETHING in return. By-the-way how long do y'all think he keeps his job after such a potential embarrassment.

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#60 Captain Ron
March 11 2013, 07:35PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Also, Lecavalier isn't even that good anymore. He gets his points here and there, but is middling at even strength at best.

His might be the worst contract in the sport right now.

Your absolutely right about Lecavalier. One of these days his old partner in crime Brad Richards in NYC might take over that spot.

Just the thought of bringing Lecavalier here scares the hell out of me as a fan.

If that happens we can be certain beyond any doubt that the Flames owners and management have lost it completely.

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#61 backburner
March 11 2013, 07:35PM
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@Kent Wilson

My friend and I were talking about this "Lecavalier" scenario today actually.. Could be a multiple player deal.. But in the end, we agreed that there is no way he waves to go anywhere, let alone the Flames!

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#62 RSD
March 11 2013, 07:43PM
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@backburner

I agree the Flames are the new definition of oilers; nobody will want to play here, we have descended into a pit of suck and until feaster finds a way out, there we will stay. : (

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#63 Captain Ron
March 11 2013, 07:43PM
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Kevin R wrote:

Anyone hear how Robert was after his call to Patty? He sounded like he was in trouble.

I thought of that because of all this bloody trade banter on here & the fact it could happen is stressing me the @#*% out!!!

I only have red wine to take my nitro pills with. Hope you are all happy!

After the Flames get overrun tonight Robert will back on in fine form I hope. Ready for another round of "you know Patti". Gotta love that guy.

I missed his call on Saturday was he struggling to breathe because he was so angry? Or choking on an ice cube maybe?

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#64 T&A4Flames
March 11 2013, 07:58PM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

no jay don't do what kent says, move mcgratton up to the first unit. although ollie is my all time favourite former flames/coyote/flame/panther/islander i dont think he would report

hey, Hey,HEY!!! Olli played for the Rangers not the Islanders. Geez.

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#65 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 08:03PM
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Captain Ron wrote:

After the Flames get overrun tonight Robert will back on in fine form I hope. Ready for another round of "you know Patti". Gotta love that guy.

I missed his call on Saturday was he struggling to breathe because he was so angry? Or choking on an ice cube maybe?

love roberts passionate calls, him and patti should have a daily segment on the fan.

the i tell you patti show

thought maybe robert had a canoli lodged in the windpipe

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#66 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 08:07PM
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T&A4Flames wrote:

hey, Hey,HEY!!! Olli played for the Rangers not the Islanders. Geez.

forgot bout the ranger fiasco and didnt ollie toil for the isle way back in his early years

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#67 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:20PM
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Why is MacBackup starting? Should've kept up Danny!

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#68 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 08:23PM
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1 minute to the Self-destruct sequence.

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#69 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 08:25PM
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@schevvy

Because MacBackup is better than Danny

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#70 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:26PM
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1 of 2 things happen in this game:

The Flames play extremely well and pull out a 1 or 2 goal win.

OR

The Flames get blown out, similar to Saturday, and changes (hopefully) would begin.

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#71 Kevin R
March 11 2013, 08:26PM
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Captain Ron wrote:

After the Flames get overrun tonight Robert will back on in fine form I hope. Ready for another round of "you know Patti". Gotta love that guy.

I missed his call on Saturday was he struggling to breathe because he was so angry? Or choking on an ice cube maybe?

Boy I am a bad fan. I find myself giddy with anticipation the Kings just smoke our tails right back to Calgary. Then I cant wait to hear Robert tonight & to just confirm he was OK. But yeah he was so mad at the Flames Saturday night it wasnt his usual rant & he must of choked on a matini olive or something.

So really, do you think this is the year Iggy moves on? The signs seem to be pointing that way. You have to wonder what the conversation would be if Kipper & Iggy went for beers. Iggy:"So man what do you figure about this gong show?" Kipper:" I'm so pissed we settled." Sucking a huge puff of his cigarette."I think after this year I'm otta here."

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#72 backburner
March 11 2013, 08:26PM
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When is Feaster gonna do something with Babchuck!?

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#73 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:27PM
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@Vintage Flame

Really? I think Danny is just as good as MacBackup, and has far more potential to improve.

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#74 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 08:27PM
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schevvy wrote:

Why is MacBackup starting? Should've kept up Danny!

stategy the kings will tire themselves out celebrating goals in the first stanza then whamo cue the miracle comeback flames storm back with 7 unanswered goals to win

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#75 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 08:28PM
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So, hockey, eh?

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#76 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:29PM
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I wonder him much money per minute of ice time Babchuk and Sarich make?

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#77 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:29PM
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@Kevin R

Re: losing tonight

I hope you're not putting too much hope into a Kings blow out. Because this strikes me as a game that the Flames tease us all and pull a W out. We'll see.

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#78 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 08:30PM
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@backburner

What did you have mine?

Edit: mind

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#79 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 08:32PM
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@schevvy

Realistically... They're all crap, so it's a coin flip at this point. Taylor didn't have to clear waivers, that's probably why he got demoted.

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#80 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 08:33PM
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Anyone pondering the "Are the Flames showcasing Comeau" question...the Flames have likely been actively shopping Babchuk for the better part of 18 months. He's not in the line-up, which makes me suspect that Hartley has exclusive control over the line-up card.

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#81 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:34PM
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Well, it's too bad the Kings aren't wearing the beauty purples unis.

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#82 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:35PM
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Why do you guys think Kipper's not playing? Not in game shape or is the injury still bugging him?

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#83 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 08:35PM
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schevvy wrote:

Why is MacBackup starting? Should've kept up Danny!

stategy the kings will tire themselves out celebrating goals in the first stanza then whamo cue the miracle comeback flames storm back with 7 unanswered goals to win

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#84 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:36PM
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Brodie is skating with Bouwmeester to start. Good luck kid.

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#85 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:36PM
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Sarich. Sigh.

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#86 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:37PM
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Brodie is skating with Bouwmeester to start. Good luck kid.

I like that. Give the kid a shot at it, see what he can do.

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#87 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:38PM
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Sarich walked around by...Clifford?

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#88 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:38PM
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@schevvy

Yeah might as well give him a go.

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#89 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 08:39PM
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Why do you guys think Kipper's not playing? Not in game shape or is the injury still bugging him?

Hartley said it was just because Kipper played 3 in a row and he wanted to get Joey some ice time. *Eye Roll*

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#90 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:40PM
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Well they're not losing yet. Positive!

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#91 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 08:40PM
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Good jump for the Flames in the first five minutes.

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#92 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:41PM
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@Vintage Flame

If MacBackup was Jonathan Bernier, I wouldn't mind that. But he's not, he's a pretty below average goalie. (Albeit that's what Kipper has been for the most part)

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#93 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:42PM
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Where have you gone Giordano...the Flames could use you right now...

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#94 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:43PM
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Carbon copy of Saturday. Here we go boys...

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#95 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 08:43PM
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I change the channel for five seconds...

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#96 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:43PM
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Bah. That's a stick lift not a hook.

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#97 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:45PM
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The PK sucks. A lot.

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#98 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:47PM
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Positives: Flames are the only team with a scoring chance at ES so far!

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#99 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 08:48PM
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Oh boy....

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#100 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 08:48PM
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It's gonna be a long night.

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