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bookofloob
March 11 2013 03:15PM

 

Us too, Half, us too.

In what feels like, oh, 48 hours, your Calgary Flames are back at it tonight for the second leg of a back to back against those damned merciless Los Angeles Kings, who are looking to treat the boys in red as lower class serfs, existing only to do the bidding of the kingdom for a second game in a row. The Flames, amid swirling rumours that this game is potentially the straw that breaks the camel's back (the camel being GM Jay Feaster, and his back is a Jarome Iginla trade), look back to get back on track against an obviously very good LA squad to close out their California road trip with at least a little bit of pride intact.

We don't really need to talk about it (in fact, if you read the post game report for the last game, we literally provided no words for the effort), but suffice to say, the team is in the midst of a touch of turmoil these days. After an impressive couple of wins against tough opponents in Vancouver and San Jose, the Flames took to the road and put in a much better effort against the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim than the 4-0 score so unflatteringly reflected. But after Saturday's debacle, where Calgary's performance was even worse than Matthew Perry's on Hockey Night In Canada's After Hours, the team has shown once again that they are far too inconsistent to be seriously considering a playoff run in this, a shortened NHL campaign. 

Most seasons are long. Teams have time to smooth over the lumps that are the glaring faults in their game, and in an 82 game season, this iteration of the Flames could possibly be competitive enough to figure that out. But over the course of 48 is a different story, and the tolerance of stinkers like the 6-2 drubbing by LA two nights ago grows less and less. That's why many believe that THIS is the game that determines whether it's time for Calgary to pack it in and ship off everyone short of Harvey the Hound to other markets, or if the march towards 8th is earnestly born anew. #GOINGFORIT!

la alineación

The roster sheet has yet to be confirmed by anyone tonight, but there's a few things we do know. Curtis Glencross is still out, as he's nursing the effects of whatever injury he's suffering from that kept him out of the last tilt with the Kings. And Miikka Kiprusoff, who looked pretty damn abysmal against the Kings after dominating the Sharks, gets a rest tonight, maybe for a few games.

  • Hudler-Cammalleri-Iginla
  • Tanguay-Stajan-Stempniak
  • Comeau-Backlund-Cervenka
  • McGratton-Begin-Jackman

  • Brodie-Bouwmeester
  • Giordano-Wideman
  • Sarich-Butler

  • MacDonald

I, uh, well, whatever works, right??!

That's what Sportsnet's Roger Millions is calling his "best guess" for tonight based off of what he's seen in the morning skate, and if that's what we're seeing tonight, well, it's different, and that's the nicest thing we can say about that.

Of note, if these are indeed the lines, young and fabulous TJ Brodie has been given a promotion up to the first defensive pairing with Jay Bouwmeester, and that would be of particular interest for something to watch for. Brodie has been fairly impressive this season, and even though his game in the past 5 or 6 has regressed and earned him 3rd pairing responsibilities with whatever dead weight defenseman checked in beside him, he has truly been a pleasant surprise for the Flames this season. This is a big challenge for him, and it'll be quite the compelling storyline to see how he stacks up against the King's top line which is, I don't need to tell you, just a little bit potent. Having Bouwmeester line up next to him can only help Brodie, and we'll have to see how much slack Jay takes for his young partner, but either way, fun to watch.

That 4th line though. It hurts the heart.

UPDATE: Pat Steinberg has Brodie back down on the third pairing with Sarich. Let's split the difference and say he lines up with Giordano on the second set.

Los Reyes

I got nothing. Mike Richards appeared like he might be out of action after his blueline collision with Tim Jackman last game, speculation that was further amplified when the Kings called up 20 year old prospect Tyler Toffoli from Manchester. But all reports indicate that Richards was at practice Monday and good to go for today, so in the meantime, we'll go ahead and assume that the Kings haven't made any changes to their lineup that pretty thoroughly dismantled Calgary last weekend.

  • Williams-Kopitar-Brown
  • Penner-Carter-Richards
  • Lewis-Stoll-King
  • Clifford-Fraser-Nolan

  • Scuderi-Voynov
  • Doughty-Muzzin
  • Martinez-Ellerby

  • Quick

No word on whether or not Jonathan Quick gets the start in goal tonight, but one assumes he will, as he seems to be finding his form after his, let's say Kipper-esque start to the year.

The Kings do not need to make much in the way of changes. They're starting to look much like the team that ran over everyone in last spring's playoffs en route to their Stanley Cup victory, and they're doing so without having key cogs Willie Mitchell and Matt Greene on defense. So that's scary.

en suma

The Kings are good, and Calgary is going to have to throw everything they have at them to get this one done. I would not expect to see a lot of the 4th line, which is a logical notion to have, so this means that they'll probably play 11 minutes. Be ready for that. GRIT CHART SAYS IT'S HAPPENING

 

 

Loves us some grit chart, which will now become the site's on-going running joke indefinitely.

Jeff Carter is playing some of the best hockey of his career right now, so I think maybe a key to the game might be trying to neutralize him. You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

I don't know. Buckle up, it's going to be a ride. I know a lot of fans want to see the Flames get killed in this one and have everyone traded to fancy new cities, but a) that sucks, b) don't count on it. Personally, I'd like to see the flames show up with some pride and perform to a level we know they're capable of, but only show 30-40% of the time.

Game's at 8. SN West. Be there. Bueno. Vamos Llamas!

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#101 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 08:49PM
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So...yeah. How about Jon Gillies, eh?

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#102 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 08:49PM
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Positives: There is only 50:20 left in the game

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#103 Captain Ron
March 11 2013, 08:49PM
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Kevin R wrote:

Boy I am a bad fan. I find myself giddy with anticipation the Kings just smoke our tails right back to Calgary. Then I cant wait to hear Robert tonight & to just confirm he was OK. But yeah he was so mad at the Flames Saturday night it wasnt his usual rant & he must of choked on a matini olive or something.

So really, do you think this is the year Iggy moves on? The signs seem to be pointing that way. You have to wonder what the conversation would be if Kipper & Iggy went for beers. Iggy:"So man what do you figure about this gong show?" Kipper:" I'm so pissed we settled." Sucking a huge puff of his cigarette."I think after this year I'm otta here."

That's pretty funny stuff Kevin. Good timing for you to ask that question about Iggy. I was talking about that earlier today with someone. I think the signs are pointing in that direction and there is a very real possibility of that happening. More than ever before in fact.

2-0 LA as I finish writing this. Our play in the defensive zone is offensive to watch.

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#104 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:51PM
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Well that's 2 goals on 3 chances for the Kings. Hockey gods sneering at the Flames attempts to foot fate.

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#105 schevvy
March 11 2013, 08:51PM
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This game sucks, and to top it off I have an awful feeling someone's gonna get hurt. I don' know why, but it's be another gut punch.

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#106 Colin.S
March 11 2013, 08:52PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Realistically... They're all crap, so it's a coin flip at this point. Taylor didn't have to clear waivers, that's probably why he got demoted.

Would it really have been a bad thing if MacDonald got claimed on Waivers? In fact it would be good thing, bring us down to 48 contracts.

Also this game sucks already. Although that last wrap around by Brodie was pretty nice.

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#107 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 08:52PM
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schevvy wrote:

1 of 2 things happen in this game:

The Flames play extremely well and pull out a 1 or 2 goal win.

OR

The Flames get blown out, similar to Saturday, and changes (hopefully) would begin.

It looks like the latter of the 2 choices. MacBackup has allowed 2 goals on 5 shots, let the onslaught begin!

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#108 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 08:54PM
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Brodie hasn't looked too bad so far, although it's only a few shifts.

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#109 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 08:54PM
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Colin.S wrote:

Would it really have been a bad thing if MacDonald got claimed on Waivers? In fact it would be good thing, bring us down to 48 contracts.

Also this game sucks already. Although that last wrap around by Brodie was pretty nice.

In my mind? No, that would have been a good thing. Who knows what Feaster or Hartley is thinking.

Something is lost in translation!

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#110 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 08:55PM
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schevvy wrote:

Where have you gone Giordano...the Flames could use you right now...

I do not know who the imposter is but, Where the hell is the real Giordano?

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#111 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 08:56PM
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schevvy wrote:

This game sucks, and to top it off I have an awful feeling someone's gonna get hurt. I don' know why, but it's be another gut punch.

Gut punch, followed by a double nut punch!

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#112 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 08:57PM
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I honestly do not know what to expect out of Wednesday's game.

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#113 exsanguinator
March 11 2013, 08:58PM
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Chris Fairfield wrote:

I do not know who the imposter is but, Where the hell is the real Giordano?

Probably not giving a damn and hoping he gets traded to a team that is actually going for it rather than "going for it".

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#114 RexLibris
March 11 2013, 08:59PM
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@Kent Wilson

I was going to ask what the chances are so far, but I'm afraid you'll just respond "slim and none".

Chicago stormed back down 4-0 last night. Anything can happen.

Right?

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#115 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:00PM
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Positive: the Kings haven't scored in a bit.

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#116 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:01PM
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RexLibris wrote:

I was going to ask what the chances are so far, but I'm afraid you'll just respond "slim and none".

Chicago stormed back down 4-0 last night. Anything can happen.

Right?

That was against the Oilers Rex, it would have been more surprising if the Hawks didn't make a game out of it

:)

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#117 RKD
March 11 2013, 09:01PM
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Kent, Cory Sarich makes $41,667 and Anton Babchuk makes $52,083 per game, if they average 15 minutes a night then each guy makes $2777 and $3472 per minute, respectively is what I calculated.

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#118 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:02PM
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PP!! HERE WE GO BOYS. CUE THE COMEBACK.

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#119 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 09:03PM
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sarich is a shoe in for the norris

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#120 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:04PM
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RexLibris wrote:

I was going to ask what the chances are so far, but I'm afraid you'll just respond "slim and none".

Chicago stormed back down 4-0 last night. Anything can happen.

Right?

My answer to this is Chicago is Chicago and Calgary is Calgary/inconsistent.

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#121 negrilcowboy
March 11 2013, 09:06PM
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RKD wrote:

Kent, Cory Sarich makes $41,667 and Anton Babchuk makes $52,083 per game, if they average 15 minutes a night then each guy makes $2777 and $3472 per minute, respectively is what I calculated.

thats criminal neither guy can do a crossover for feffs sake

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#122 Colin.S
March 11 2013, 09:07PM
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RKD wrote:

Kent, Cory Sarich makes $41,667 and Anton Babchuk makes $52,083 per game, if they average 15 minutes a night then each guy makes $2777 and $3472 per minute, respectively is what I calculated.

This number becomes disgusting when you realize how little they actually play, they are probably making Crosby like money (per minute) if you calculated it for how often they were on the ice.

So much for intellectual honesty. I'm willing to let this season go, it's a short CBA ruined season, but there better be A LOT of changes this offseason and show some sort of comprehension of what this team needs.

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#123 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:07PM
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Nice holding of the stick by Brown on that last Calgary chance? Can that be called a chance?

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#124 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:08PM
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Chances were 5-3 Flames in the first, actually.

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#125 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:09PM
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I'm waiting for Sportsnet to announce: the Flames have signed Jarome Iginla to a 4 year, 26M deal.

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#126 maggotbrain
March 11 2013, 09:11PM
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Who wants to be a bus driver when they're a kid?

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#127 Colin.S
March 11 2013, 09:12PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Chances were 5-3 Flames in the first, actually.

Go home, your drunk Kent.

I look at that statement and somehow can't believe it.

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#128 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:12PM
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Bring back Keenan! That'll do it!

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#129 RexLibris
March 11 2013, 09:13PM
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schevvy wrote:

I'm waiting for Sportsnet to announce: the Flames have signed Jarome Iginla to a 4 year, 26M deal.

With Spector breaking the news, just to rub it in.

;)

How about those Hurricanes..er, forget I asked.

Going to the Oil Kings game against Saskatoon tomorrow. Care for a sitrep on Ferland?

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#130 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:13PM
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@Colin.S

To be fair, Two of the Kings 3 chances were higher quality than anything the Flames managed. So there's that.

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#131 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:15PM
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@RexLibris

Only give a report on Ferland if it's good, we've had enough with the bad.

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#132 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:17PM
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WTF was that Sens shootout attempt?? What was that?

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#133 RKD
March 11 2013, 09:20PM
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schevvy wrote:

Bring back Keenan! That'll do it!

He was the last coach to get us into the playoffs but his methods were unorthodox. He pulled Kipper a lot and never practiced the pp! Then admitted last year or two Darryl Sutter was told by ownership to have him fired even though Darryl said it wasn't his choice.

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#134 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:21PM
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Everytime that I see Dutter's stupid face, I wanna superman punch my TV or computer. Right now, it looks as if Calgary is just trying to minimize the damage and stop the bleeding, rather than trying to score. The only question remaining is, where for Iggy?

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#135 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:23PM
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Kent Nilsson.. 131 pts I believe

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#136 Colin.S
March 11 2013, 09:24PM
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schevvy wrote:

WTF was that Sens shootout attempt?? What was that?

I got no problem with it, only issue is getting right in on the goalie, players can do whatever other stupid move they want cause in the end more often than not they just look dumb.

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#137 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:24PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Kent Nilsson.. 131 pts I believe

Being him back! Hell, why's Gelinas still on the bench? Bring him in!

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#138 backburner
March 11 2013, 09:26PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

What did you have mine?

Edit: mind

Waivers.. Buyout.. Trade.. Demote him.. Even playing him has to be better then wasting away in the press box

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#139 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 09:26PM
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Next goal wins.

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#140 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:28PM
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Remember that game where Gio hit Brown like 5 times in one shift?

Ahhh.. Those were the days

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#141 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:30PM
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PP! Here it is!

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#142 Jeff In Lethbridge
March 11 2013, 09:35PM
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even as jaded as I've become, I still can't believe how bad these guys are playing. They are being pushed around like kids.

actually, when WE are on the power play, we are about evenly matched.. 5 on 5 we aren't even in this game.

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#143 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:37PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Sutter continuing to put his first line out against the Flames 4th. Smart.

Which one is our 4th line again?

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#144 mattyc
March 11 2013, 09:38PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Sutter continuing to put his first line out against the Flames 4th. Smart.

...and then our 4th line didn't change after they initially got the puck out after the icing?!

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#145 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:39PM
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MacBackup has actually stopped his last 9 shots.

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#146 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:39PM
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Tanguay looks really off tonight.

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#147 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:39PM
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@mattyc

Long change and it's a bunch of slow pokes. Amazing Jackman managed to get off.

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#148 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:40PM
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#offersheetoreilly

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#149 mattyc
March 11 2013, 09:44PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Long change and it's a bunch of slow pokes. Amazing Jackman managed to get off.

haha fair enough ... if only we had some 4th liners somewhere that could skate...

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#150 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:45PM
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RKD wrote:

Too bad we didn't hire JD, the Blue Jackets are tied with the Pens as the second hottest team in the NHL. Columbus will be better than Calgary sooner than later with JD at the helm.

Will be? Have you seen the standings?

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