FGD: Aquí vamos de nuevo

bookofloob
March 11 2013 03:15PM

 

Us too, Half, us too.

In what feels like, oh, 48 hours, your Calgary Flames are back at it tonight for the second leg of a back to back against those damned merciless Los Angeles Kings, who are looking to treat the boys in red as lower class serfs, existing only to do the bidding of the kingdom for a second game in a row. The Flames, amid swirling rumours that this game is potentially the straw that breaks the camel's back (the camel being GM Jay Feaster, and his back is a Jarome Iginla trade), look back to get back on track against an obviously very good LA squad to close out their California road trip with at least a little bit of pride intact.

We don't really need to talk about it (in fact, if you read the post game report for the last game, we literally provided no words for the effort), but suffice to say, the team is in the midst of a touch of turmoil these days. After an impressive couple of wins against tough opponents in Vancouver and San Jose, the Flames took to the road and put in a much better effort against the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim than the 4-0 score so unflatteringly reflected. But after Saturday's debacle, where Calgary's performance was even worse than Matthew Perry's on Hockey Night In Canada's After Hours, the team has shown once again that they are far too inconsistent to be seriously considering a playoff run in this, a shortened NHL campaign. 

Most seasons are long. Teams have time to smooth over the lumps that are the glaring faults in their game, and in an 82 game season, this iteration of the Flames could possibly be competitive enough to figure that out. But over the course of 48 is a different story, and the tolerance of stinkers like the 6-2 drubbing by LA two nights ago grows less and less. That's why many believe that THIS is the game that determines whether it's time for Calgary to pack it in and ship off everyone short of Harvey the Hound to other markets, or if the march towards 8th is earnestly born anew. #GOINGFORIT!

la alineación

The roster sheet has yet to be confirmed by anyone tonight, but there's a few things we do know. Curtis Glencross is still out, as he's nursing the effects of whatever injury he's suffering from that kept him out of the last tilt with the Kings. And Miikka Kiprusoff, who looked pretty damn abysmal against the Kings after dominating the Sharks, gets a rest tonight, maybe for a few games.

  • Hudler-Cammalleri-Iginla
  • Tanguay-Stajan-Stempniak
  • Comeau-Backlund-Cervenka
  • McGratton-Begin-Jackman

  • Brodie-Bouwmeester
  • Giordano-Wideman
  • Sarich-Butler

  • MacDonald

I, uh, well, whatever works, right??!

That's what Sportsnet's Roger Millions is calling his "best guess" for tonight based off of what he's seen in the morning skate, and if that's what we're seeing tonight, well, it's different, and that's the nicest thing we can say about that.

Of note, if these are indeed the lines, young and fabulous TJ Brodie has been given a promotion up to the first defensive pairing with Jay Bouwmeester, and that would be of particular interest for something to watch for. Brodie has been fairly impressive this season, and even though his game in the past 5 or 6 has regressed and earned him 3rd pairing responsibilities with whatever dead weight defenseman checked in beside him, he has truly been a pleasant surprise for the Flames this season. This is a big challenge for him, and it'll be quite the compelling storyline to see how he stacks up against the King's top line which is, I don't need to tell you, just a little bit potent. Having Bouwmeester line up next to him can only help Brodie, and we'll have to see how much slack Jay takes for his young partner, but either way, fun to watch.

That 4th line though. It hurts the heart.

UPDATE: Pat Steinberg has Brodie back down on the third pairing with Sarich. Let's split the difference and say he lines up with Giordano on the second set.

Los Reyes

I got nothing. Mike Richards appeared like he might be out of action after his blueline collision with Tim Jackman last game, speculation that was further amplified when the Kings called up 20 year old prospect Tyler Toffoli from Manchester. But all reports indicate that Richards was at practice Monday and good to go for today, so in the meantime, we'll go ahead and assume that the Kings haven't made any changes to their lineup that pretty thoroughly dismantled Calgary last weekend.

  • Williams-Kopitar-Brown
  • Penner-Carter-Richards
  • Lewis-Stoll-King
  • Clifford-Fraser-Nolan

  • Scuderi-Voynov
  • Doughty-Muzzin
  • Martinez-Ellerby

  • Quick

No word on whether or not Jonathan Quick gets the start in goal tonight, but one assumes he will, as he seems to be finding his form after his, let's say Kipper-esque start to the year.

The Kings do not need to make much in the way of changes. They're starting to look much like the team that ran over everyone in last spring's playoffs en route to their Stanley Cup victory, and they're doing so without having key cogs Willie Mitchell and Matt Greene on defense. So that's scary.

en suma

The Kings are good, and Calgary is going to have to throw everything they have at them to get this one done. I would not expect to see a lot of the 4th line, which is a logical notion to have, so this means that they'll probably play 11 minutes. Be ready for that. GRIT CHART SAYS IT'S HAPPENING

 

 

Loves us some grit chart, which will now become the site's on-going running joke indefinitely.

Jeff Carter is playing some of the best hockey of his career right now, so I think maybe a key to the game might be trying to neutralize him. You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him.

I don't know. Buckle up, it's going to be a ride. I know a lot of fans want to see the Flames get killed in this one and have everyone traded to fancy new cities, but a) that sucks, b) don't count on it. Personally, I'd like to see the flames show up with some pride and perform to a level we know they're capable of, but only show 30-40% of the time.

Game's at 8. SN West. Be there. Bueno. Vamos Llamas!

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The Book of Loob is the Nation's resident expert in flim-flammery and twaddle. An unabashed Flames fan, when BoL is not intellectually bankrupting Flames Nation, he can be seen rooting for Blair Jones, often to excess, at Book of Loob. Follow him on twitter here.
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#151 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:46PM
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This period is all Kings. Chances are 6-1. Flames are lucky to still be in it at this point.

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#152 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:46PM
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Everytime that the camera is focused in on any Calgary player, it is a look of disgust, frustration, confusion and apathy, no drive, no passion, no nothing! This combined with the fact that the kings are just doing the same 1-2-2 trap and clogging up center ice against a slower and smaller Calgary team.

CHANGES ARE A COMIN'

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#153 RKD
March 11 2013, 09:48PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Will be? Have you seen the standings?

I have but it's only a hot streak, let's see how the rest plays out. I still think Calgary can finish ahead of Edmonton, if not it's MacKinnon, Jones, or Drouin for us.

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#154 exsanguinator
March 11 2013, 09:48PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Which one is our 4th line again?

It's the one with Iginla on it. Though that may be our 3rd line.

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#155 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:49PM
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Pass the puck sometimes Comeau you dough head.

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#156 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:50PM
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How did Penner not score?

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#157 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:51PM
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@Kent Wilson

Comeau leads the Flames with 4 shots

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#158 RKD
March 11 2013, 09:51PM
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schevvy wrote:

How did Penner not score?

Maybe he was thinking about pancakes!

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#159 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:52PM
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Cammi off to the dressing room

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#160 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:52PM
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Aha wth was that Comeau

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#161 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:53PM
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With 4 minutes to go in the 2nd, Calgary has thrown another 7 shots at Quick, making their almost 2 period total 15 and all but 5 have been of the quality variety.

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#162 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:53PM
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@Vintage Flame

That's cuz he shoots it from absolutely anywhere.

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#163 clYDE
March 11 2013, 09:53PM
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Man, if we could get Jones, another 1st or 2 and a couple young guys, I would be willing to put up with the crap we are seeing tonight.

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#164 schevvy
March 11 2013, 09:53PM
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@Vintage Flame

Greeeat...hope it's not serious, he could be in a potential deal!

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#165 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 09:54PM
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Cammalleri limping off the ice after a collision with Brodie, what else???

Check that, he's on the bench.

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#166 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 09:58PM
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Squid, back on the bench.. crisis averted.

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#167 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 09:58PM
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Chances were 7-1 in the second. Gonna be tough to come back if the Flames don't improve their chance rate drastically.

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#168 clYDE
March 11 2013, 09:58PM
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Just glad we don't have a big, physical team like the Kings. They never win. lol

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#169 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 10:01PM
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Brodie holding his own in the top pairing!

15:09 of ice-time and he is even. #Brightside?

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#170 McRib
March 11 2013, 10:03PM
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GO LAMES GO!!!

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#171 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 10:03PM
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Comeau really has a good hard shot.

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#172 mattyc
March 11 2013, 10:05PM
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according to the kings' feed, flames are out-hitting the kings 34-21

Pure. Grit.

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#173 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 10:06PM
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I wish and shando and lando played for my team.

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#174 McRib
March 11 2013, 10:06PM
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The lames chose the perfect time to start the Seth Jones sweepstakes!!! Three horrid games in a row as all other teams around us (even Columbus) start winning, well in advance of the trade deadline so that Fester has plenty of time to find decent return for Iggy, JBo and Cammy.

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#175 Kent Wilson
March 11 2013, 10:06PM
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@clYDE

Kings aren't just big. They're big and good.

The Kings are big, which helps. But the true, functional difference is they have guys who can play the game at a high level.

Being a crap team and adding size doesn't make you better. It makes you a big, crap team. Unless those big guys can play.

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#176 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 10:08PM
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Here comes the trap for the 3rd period. Just had a coilers fan at my work tell me that he just picked up jake muzzin in his fantasy pool, nut punch #3.

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#177 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 10:11PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Kings aren't just big. They're big and good.

The Kings are big, which helps. But the true, functional difference is they have guys who can play the game at a high level.

Being a crap team and adding size doesn't make you better. It makes you a big, crap team. Unless those big guys can play.

Kent,

Is there any truth to this being the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back as far as Iggy being dealt?

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#178 John Deere Green
March 11 2013, 10:12PM
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I can't imagine ownership is pleased with being a cap team and sitting in last place in the conference. But I suppose if the seats are full and the suits are enjoying their merlot from the box seats, than the ownership is happy cause they're making money. This is just so hard to stomach because as fans we have no idea what friggin' direction this team is headed in regards to on ice player decisions.

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#179 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 10:12PM
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Kings play a very smart, very structured game.

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#180 Captain Ron
March 11 2013, 10:14PM
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RKD wrote:

Too bad we didn't hire JD, the Blue Jackets are tied with the Pens as the second hottest team in the NHL. Columbus will be better than Calgary sooner than later with JD at the helm.

A little early to be giving JD any credit here. The team is playing better but its mostly about their goaltending being so good right now.

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#181 clYDE
March 11 2013, 10:14PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Kings aren't just big. They're big and good.

The Kings are big, which helps. But the true, functional difference is they have guys who can play the game at a high level.

Being a crap team and adding size doesn't make you better. It makes you a big, crap team. Unless those big guys can play.

You can't keep denying it Kent. Size and physical play are huge in this game. Especially considering the grind they go through.

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#183 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 10:16PM
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McRib wrote:

When Jake Muzzin takes your team to school, you know things are heading south quickly!!! Fact: Tomorrow Iggy is going to pull a Patty Roy and head into Festers office demanding a trade.

If Feaster is in the stands, I know he won't wait until tomorrow.

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#184 McRib
March 11 2013, 10:16PM
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@Chris Fairfield

Hahahaha, at this rate I would take 10-1 odds that he would even go as far up as the pressbox for a chat. He looked miserable after Sundays game!!

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#185 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 10:16PM
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Stajan's been consistently very good this year.

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#186 Ryan Pike
March 11 2013, 10:20PM
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Flames PP just cannot get out of the starting blocks here.

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#187 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 10:21PM
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Did they get a shot ON goal in that 5 on 3?

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#188 schevvy
March 11 2013, 10:23PM
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What a play by TJ.

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#189 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 10:23PM
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Vintage Flame wrote:

Did they get a shot ON goal in that 5 on 3?

Nope.

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#190 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 10:25PM
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I'm not sure what John Shannon is talking about, Bernier looks like the real deal to me.

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#191 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 10:25PM
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TRAP! 1 2 2

AND REPEAT

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#192 Willi P
March 11 2013, 10:26PM
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Comeau shoots. Comeau shoots. Comeau shoots. Until Comeau can do anything but shoot, he should be on the bench.

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#193 Chris Fairfield
March 11 2013, 10:27PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

I'm not sure what John Shannon is talking about, Bernier looks like the real deal to me.

What was John Shannon saying about Bernier? I have video, no audio at work.

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#194 Kevin R
March 11 2013, 10:27PM
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schevvy wrote:

This game sucks, and to top it off I have an awful feeling someone's gonna get hurt. I don' know why, but it's be another gut punch.

I guess the real intellectual honesty is at what point we officially waive the white flag & start the trades before any key trade piece does get injured. Why wait on some of these guys?

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#195 McRib
March 11 2013, 10:29PM
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John Tavares must be subhuman, because there is no other explanation for Comeau scoring 22 goals two season ago.

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#196 exsanguinator
March 11 2013, 10:29PM
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bookofloob wrote:

Yeah, the Kings do things we just never see the Flames do. A little more creativity and a little more hard nosing it to the net, and the Flames could be a better team too.

I've liked Stajan's play tonight,

I've liked Stajan's play all season. Not sure if that is an indictment of the Flames or an exoneration of Stajan's role under Butter.

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#197 schevvy
March 11 2013, 10:30PM
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@Kevin R

Absolutely. I'm an optimist, but this team's going nowhere. Sell off now.

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#198 McRib
March 11 2013, 10:31PM
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@Chris Fairfield

That he only plays games against bottom feeder teams, when Quick gets the night off like Lindbäck did in Nashville and once he is made a starter he is likely to disappoint.

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#199 Vintage Flame
March 11 2013, 10:34PM
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I would sell Kent's statistical brain for Drew Doughty...

Sorry Kent

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#200 ChinookArch
March 11 2013, 10:34PM
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@Chris Fairfield

He said Bernier would be a risk for a team to pick up as their #1, because he's only played 55 NHL games.

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