POST-GAME: Icarus and the Wings...

Vintage Flame
March 13 2013 11:27PM

 

So where to begin tonight?

Emotions have to be torn amongst fans tonight. Are you one that wanted to see the Flames win tonight, a chance to begin that mid-to-late season wiining streak, that once again might put them in playoff contention? Or were you hoping that the Flames would continue the spiral into oblivion that would put keep them in the Western Conference Cellar? Hell you might even be so disgruntled by now, that you see the team only needing to pass two more teams before they reach true Nirvana.

Well the Flames came out tonight and decided to tune out the commentary, banter and vitriol coming from all directions. Instead they decided to make a few statements of their own by taking control of this game and never letting it go; despite what Detroit could throw at them. They didn't just get the win tonight, they took it. Only their second win this season when not scoring the first goal.

Rundown

After being yanked in one LA game and outright benched in the second, Miikka Kiprusoff was probably a little bitter tonight, and felt like he had something to prove. He didn't have to wait long to get that chance and was equal to the task as he stopped back-to-back early chances from Filppula and Zetterberg.

However the ever dangerous Pavel Datsyuk would catch the Flames captain a little flat footed at the 3:20 mark, feed the pass to Nik Kronwall, who would in turn hammer the shot from the point over Kipper's shoulder. Just like that it was 1-0 early for the Wings.

At 5:16 the Flames would get their chance to draw even on the power-play, something they would need to click tonight if they wanted the 2 pts. Alex Tanguay would do just that 40 seconds later as he took a tipped pass up the middle. One quick move on Gustavsson and then roof-daddy... and we were all tied up.

Jay Boumeester would give the Flames the 2-1 lead, taking the lead pass from Lee Stempniak and wristing it passed the Monster. Nice to have you back Lee!

Flames got out-shot 15-6 by Detroit, that's nothing new, they were also out-chanced 4-2, but managed to come out of the period with the 2-1 lead. Mostly on the back of the strong play of Kipper, Calgary also dominated the physical game as well as the face-off dot.

A pretty low event start to the second. At the 7 min mark Jiri Hudler would have a glorious chance as he intercepted a pass right in front of Gustavsson. Unfortunately when he finally settled the puck, he was already past the goal and the Wings picked off his attempt to center the puck. At the 11 min mark, Curtis Glencross whistled a one-timer off the crossbar. The Flames were pressing with a much better possession game than they had in the first.

When you hear that the Wings haven't scored a PP goal on the road all year, you just knew that Calgary was going to oblige them as the slumpbuster. Yup, with just over three mins left in the second, Val Filppula, making his way back into the Wings line-up,  would tie the game... on the power-play.

On the whole, it was a better period for your Flames. They were out-shot again 12-5 but still controlled the face-off battle. The wings held a slight edge (3-2) on Calgary in scoring chances, which was enough for them to tie it up going into the final frame.

5:37 into the third Lee "Where Have you Been All My Life" Stempniak would take the centering pass from Glencross for the tap into the empty net. Lee must have read my last post-game when I asked,

ONE FINAL THOUGHT...
Remember when Lee Stempniak played for the Flames? What ever happened to that guy?

Lee decided that it wasn't only Kipper that needed to step his game up. Maybe the whole team was paying attention?

 

Well at 9:12 Scoreface would get himself in the goal column with one of his own. Missing the previous game with a wrist injury, GlenX looked pretty good as he rifled a laser passed Gustavsson, to give the Flames a two goal lead.

Speaking of lasers, just 48 seconds later, Blake Comeau (Yes, that Blake Comeau) would steal the puck at the Wings blueline, turn and put the puck top shelf over Gustavsson like it had eyes. Suddenly the Flames were up 5-2 on the Wings whilst being out-shot 2-1 (36-16)

They had a chance a couple minutes later to increase the lead, but Mikael Backlund barely missed with the Forsberg-like move when he was awarded a penalty shot. Gustavsson litteraly with the toe save.

Calgary really pressed in the final frame. They narrowed the shot total, only being out-shot 38-22 and they drew even with seven scoring chances apiece. For once the difference maker in the game was Calgary's finish rather than being finished by the opposition.

Why The Flames Won...

This one is pretty simple.

This is one of those games that you needed to see a full 60 mins out of the Flames; and that's what you got. Calgary literally played this one til the clock hit zeros. Even once they had the lead, or even a two goal lead, they kept pushing the Wings back, looking for openings and creating chances.

Because despite the fact that both team had seven scoring chances each, Calgary was able to make good on three of them and keep Detroit from capitalizing on any of theirs.

Because this was probably the best third period the Flames have played all year.

Because Kiprusoff had a chip on his shoulder for having to hold a clipboard in the last game and he wanted to make a statement.

Firestarter

Gotta go with Glencross tonight.

Not only did he have a goal and an assist, he hit a couple of posts or else he would have had even more.

Curtis is most effective for this team when he gets a tad surly. It might have been something someone said to him tonight, or he was tired of hitting it off the iron, but whatever it was, he turned it up for the second half of the game.

Steinberg said on the pre-game show that if this team was going to make a last ditch effort at the post season that they would have a better shot with Glencross in the line-up. How true. He definitely put a show on for the fans tonight, and in the end he is one guy that we all know hates lose and just loves to win. No matter where you stand on how the Flames should finish this year, you gotta love the cut of GlenX's jib.

Honourable mention to our favorite Finn. Miikka came out tonight like a world beater. He faced a lot of rubber tonight and some 10-Bell chances from the likes of Datsyuk and Filppula, and came out ahead. Not sure how many were expecting that, but Kipper loves to play in Detroit and it was good to see him finish this game before the "Mule" had a chance to pancake his other knee.

Sum it Up

I'm tempted to leave this section blank because I know that many of you out there have mixed feelings on this win.

Is this a step forward for the team or is it merely another jackpot of fool's gold? The team played a successful, full sixty minutes tonight and dominated a team that is still within catching in the standings. That should be a good thing on any given night but I'm sure there are many that want this team to continue to lose, thus securing a top draft pick.

Here are my thoughts and how they pertain to the article's title tonight.

If you know the story of Icarus, then you know it's about a mans desire to be closer to God, and so he makes a set of wings out of wax and set out on his attempt for the heavens. Unfortunately as he gets higher and higher to where he perceives God to be, the Sun melts the wax wings and he plummets back to earth. See what I'm getting at yet?

Yes the Flames scorched the Wings tonight and the win gets them higher in the standings, but many will wonder how long it will last and are they only setting themselves up for a larger ultimate fall. Personally I want to see this team show an honest effort every night. It sucks watching them lose and it sucks hearing the fans boo.

Am I happy your Calgary Flames won tonight? Yes, and I'm even happier they did it so handedly because I hate the Wings.

I have no idea where this team finishes in the standings and history dictates that even with a surge in the standings, they face a fall of biblical proprtions, but for now, I'm going to take this for what it's worth; a big win, and a sign that some of these guys still care.

What about you?

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Vintage Flame is a Calgary based sports junkie that prefers to call hockey a "religion" rather than an addiction. He believes there are two types of hockey fans. Those who cheer for the Flames, and those who don't understand the sport yet. Follow Vintage_Flame on Twitter
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#1 Vowswithin
March 13 2013, 11:39PM
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I am ok with wins AS LONG as management admits we suck and need a rebuild. I fear now with 1 win they might think we are buyers...

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#2 Scary Gary
March 13 2013, 11:46PM
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Thanks VF, it must be much easier to write wins than losses (smiley face).

I've been conflicted all year, I always WANT our flames to win but like vowswithin I fear a few wins here and there will give management false hope that we're still a playoff team.

I love Glencross, it bothers me when his name comes up on here associated with trades. The guy took a hometown discount, and he's delivered, lets not forget that.

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#3 bookofloob
March 13 2013, 11:53PM
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I maintain that anyone who thinks "OH NO WE WON" is an idiot

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#4 CFan in Vic
March 13 2013, 11:58PM
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I still care. Next year I might care more though.

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#5 Vowswithin
March 14 2013, 12:03AM
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bookofloob wrote:

I maintain that anyone who thinks "OH NO WE WON" is an idiot

Just remember NEVER doubt, heartly thinks were gonna string ten together, management for 9 years has though we were 1 piece away. "I will never burn the team to the ground" says Feaster

At some point SOMEONES gotta admit "shame on me" and that yes we need a rebuild, intellectual honesty of you will. (Just thinking about it now, phrases like that make him sound like a high pressure car salesman)

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#6 Jibmeister
March 14 2013, 12:06AM
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@CFan in Vic

Could it be? Another flames fan in Victoria?

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#7 Scary Gary
March 14 2013, 12:17AM
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4pts out of 8th! Beat Nashville here a couple times and who knows what will happen.

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#10 MC Hockey
March 14 2013, 12:36AM
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Yup, the Icarus story is to be told once again this year. Yaay 9th or 10th place and bad draft choice....here we come!

But at least we will have some good hockey to enjoy when the Flames win right?

Oh yeah...yaay for the upcoming "big trades" where 8th and 9th D-men Babchuk and Carson are dealt to Detroit and Columbus for 7th round draft choices! Hurrah to re-stocking the draft choice cupboards! We may get a real "steal" like a "Chris Simon" type from those picks. Woohoo indeed!!

P.S. All the above was serious, no sarcasm at all!

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#11 Stockley
March 14 2013, 04:11AM
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Vintage Flame wrote:
Thanks VF, it must be much easier to write wins than losses (smiley face).

Yeah, wins make it easier. ;)

I love Glencross, it bothers me when his name comes up on here associated with trades. The guy took a hometown discount, and he's delivered, lets not forget that.

I think you hear his name come up because he's one of the few guys that have good potential trade value. Do I think it would be a good move to trade him? It all depends on the return, right? But my gut says it would be a mistake.

Very true about the hometown discount, but these guys are always about, "What have you done for me lately?" and "It's just business"

If they move Iggy or let him walk this summer we'll need a guy like Glencross to help with leadership on this team going forward. He's a meat and potatoes hockey player who gets more goals through grit and sheer force of will than some guys do on talent alone. He has a friendly contract, he loves Alberta, loves being a Flame. He's one of the last guys I'd want to trade personally.

As for the win; I'm glad to see the team win, I never really cheer against them. But at the end of the day Kipper stole this one and the team burned another sub-standard backup goalie alive. My gut tells me it would have been a different outcome if they were shooting at Howard.

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#12 Franko J
March 14 2013, 05:39AM
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Rare to see the Flames actually execute on their scoring chances in a game. Usually when given the opportunity to score a goal the player misses the net or the shot is blocked. Last night the team scored when needed and most importantly Kiprusoff provided the team with quality saves early and often.

The team is playing much better at home than at the beginning of the season. Interesting though how many empty seats I saw on TV last night.

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#13 the-wolf
March 14 2013, 06:35AM
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bookofloob wrote:

I maintain that anyone who thinks "OH NO WE WON" is an idiot

Must be your first year watching this team.

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#14 Smudged
March 14 2013, 06:41AM
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I'm always gonna cheer for a flames win. I just love that feeling when they win.

The danger in hoping for the loss is that you believe the right decisions will be made when it comes time to trade or that they will make the right decisions at the draft. What if you cheer for the loss and you get your rebuild and it still doesn't work out the way you want it too? Then you missed out enjoying the wins which will be far and few between after this season.

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#15 don'ttradeourcore
March 14 2013, 06:59AM
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I wonder if we could get Paul Stastny out of Colorado for Brodie and Sven? That move puts this group over the top and gets them in the playoffs.

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#16 suba steve
March 14 2013, 07:23AM
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the-wolf wrote:

Must be your first year watching this team.

Apparently, they are giving BSc degrees to Idiots now.

Duh...A squared + D squared = G squared.

Very good Mongo, here's your diploma. (Mongo is my given name, Suba Steve my middle name!)

Of course, this IS being done in Edmonton.

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#17 Vowswithin
March 14 2013, 07:32AM
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I would love to see a vote on how people feel in general. I use the saying damned if you do damned if you don't.

And how I feel? Helpless... How have we fallen so far in a couple years... How many of the story lines are true? What has iginla F'ed up in his time here, why does no one buy in? Why are we afraid of change? Do the owners have the hands in yhe mixing bowl?

Anything has to be better then treading between 15-9th

I miss not sucking, i feel like moses wandering through the desert.

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#18 ChinookArch
March 14 2013, 07:47AM
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I enjoyed watching the Flames win last night. It's good to see the team steal one too. It makes me nervous, in as far as I don't trust the Flames braintrust, but I can't cheer against them.

KW had an intersting comment about the Eric Francis Sun story being a trial ballon to measure the Flames fans appetite to see Iginla orchestrated by the Flames. For me, it has a ring of truth to it, especially after hearing Eric Francis on the Fan960. He said, that when he called Iginla's agent he was shocked about his forthcoming he was about the lack of negations with the team. It gives me more comfort that a trade is coming, but I'll believe it when I see it.

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#19 RexLibris
March 14 2013, 08:33AM
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Sorry VF, can't let this detail slip: Icarus was the son of Daedalus, great genius of Greek myth. After completing construction of the maze for the King Minos of the eponymous island, he was imprisoned along with his son to prevent him selling the secrets of it to others.

As a means of escape Daedalus constructed wings out of feathers and wax for he and Icarus. Warning his son beforehand not to stray too close to either the sea or the sun, as one would drown the feathers and the other melt the wax. Icarus, as you say, enraptured by the beauty of the sun flew higher and higher until the wax melted and he plunged to his death, while his father watched helplessly.

I look forward to seeing if the Flames can crack the Predators defensive game with their speed. I'm thinking a split of the next two games is a reasonable scenario.

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#20 RexLibris
March 14 2013, 08:37AM
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@the-wolf

I understand the drive to want the team to be forced to face reality, however at least in this draft year middling success has some decent rewards by way of depth. If they move up four more places in the standings by season's end, I'd probably be disappointed too.

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#21 takeyourvitamins
March 14 2013, 08:51AM
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Rex, I thought Daedalus was an evil wizard who tormented Herc, Newton and Toot.

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#22 takeyourvitamins
March 14 2013, 08:54AM
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@Vowswithin: There's no danger. I want this team to become a contender again. A rebuild might fail (especially with P. Griffin at the helm), but sticking with the status quo has failed for the last 3 years--almost 4 now. All I want is a change in direction.

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#23 icedawg_42
March 14 2013, 09:07AM
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Couple thoughts of my own:

1. There is a third type of fan involved here. The kind who wants big changes for the team, who realize and understand that means losing a LOT of games, but can't help themselves but to cheer and enjoy a Flames win.

2. This article kinda has the tone that you feel like the Flames deserved to win this game? I disagree. This was all about goaltending. Kipper was...well, Kipper, and "Monster" was singularily bad. I mean AWFUL. I thought the Wings outplayed the Flames HUGE in the first, and in the second as well. Some bad bad plays cost them a bunch of goals in the third, but I don't agree with you when you say "The Flames 'took' it"

3. Kipper hitting a hot streak and stealing a bunch of games is the worst thing that can happen. He's been hiding a lot of big holes in this team for years now.

4. JBo rocks. I can officially go on record now saying "told ya so"..maybe not to you personally, but in general.

5. Scoreface rocks too..but we all knew that.

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#24 Monaertchi Gaudnett
March 14 2013, 09:10AM
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takeyourvitamins wrote:

Rex, I thought Daedalus was an evil wizard who tormented Herc, Newton and Toot.

Fantastic! Post of the day!

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#25 Subversive
March 14 2013, 09:19AM
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bookofloob wrote:

I maintain that anyone who thinks "OH NO WE WON" is an idiot

And I maintain that people who call other people idiots for having a different, but perfectly defensible, opinion from theirs, are idiots.

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#26 SmellOfVictory
March 14 2013, 09:20AM
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bookofloob wrote:

I maintain that anyone who thinks "OH NO WE WON" is an idiot

It's not "OH NO WE WON" because we want to tank for a high draft pick. It's "OH NO WE WON" because, for the past three years, this team has been a bubble team at best yet management wouldn't admit it. So every time they came within range of the playoffs, management has either made trades that caused the team to be appreciably worse for the future or simply stayed put when the team could've been improved for the future.

It's "OH NO WE WON" because management, at least until recently, appears to get caught up in the results rather than how fundamentally good or not-so-much the team is, and will make decisions based on the wrong factors (from a hockey standpoint).

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#27 Bruins
March 14 2013, 09:21AM
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@bookofloob

Nobody wants to see them lose but nobody wants to see them missing the playoffs every year or getting knocked out in the first round when they do make the playoffs

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#28 NateBaldwin
March 14 2013, 09:25AM
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Re. 1) I completely fall into this category of fan. I keep telling myself I want them to lose, but every time I see them score a goal I cheer for it.

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#29 NateBaldwin
March 14 2013, 09:26AM
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Subversive wrote:

And I maintain that people who call other people idiots for having a different, but perfectly defensible, opinion from theirs, are idiots.

He's got you there loob.

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#30 bookofloob
March 14 2013, 09:38AM
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Subversive wrote:

And I maintain that people who call other people idiots for having a different, but perfectly defensible, opinion from theirs, are idiots.

well sure, if the position were actually defensible

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#31 Subversive
March 14 2013, 09:40AM
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bookofloob wrote:

well sure, if the position were actually defensible

It is defensible, Smell of Victory summed it up very nicely in post #26.

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#32 SmellOfVictory
March 14 2013, 09:40AM
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bookofloob wrote:

well sure, if the position were actually defensible

Tell us why it's not defensible to want your team to have long-term success, rather than get mismanaged into the ground because of a couple of winning streaks.

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#33 bookofloob
March 14 2013, 09:46AM
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I have a whole post on it coming soon.

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#34 Kevin R
March 14 2013, 09:53AM
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I will give you a 1st hand account of last night & was there with our own hockey panel: 1/Kipper won this game, Flames did not play 60 minutes, oh contraire, it blew us away when they went up 3-2 in the 3rd. They had no business winning this game, it was the hockey gods paying us back for that Chicago game. We did notice that Kipper did not look 100%. He took a long time getting up on many occasions, in fact, one of the overweight parties on our panel at the game said Kipper getting up reminded him of how he gets up in the morning.

2/ Glencross was a beast last night. Hitting & hitting hard. I know he doesnt do it every game but he's cap friendly & he's ours, I say keep him moving forward.

3/We had a consensus that if you took Kipper or JBO & traded them out of our lineup, the team would miss these players huge. There is really no market for Kipper right now, for whatever return you get, we think keep him & do not let him go until you are absolutely sure what we have in Ramo. Let them play 40 games each next year. I'm sure Kipper wont mind seeing at 1.0mill he's virtually playing for free. This man has 3-4 years in him & can easily get a contract somewhere for 3-4mill per. JBO, if we lose as many as we win in the next 8 games, as much as we hate to lose him, he will get us a monster return from either Detroit or maybe even get a Couturier thrown in a deal for him.

4/Sadly, our last observation was on Iggy. We all love him, will all pull for any team he plays for to win a Cup, but last night, we all agreed, if we were to trade him, we would not have missed his presence. Sorry, but that was all of us. In fact, I dont think people realize, but a young up & coming player would have had more impact than he has given us in too many games this year, that we may even improve. It just not the right situation for him. This team does not have the right chemistry to bring out the best of Iggy. VF, I think Flames & Iggys agent did talk at the beginning of the year & they were probably so far apart on numbers, they talks just ceased & was left in a wait & see. If Iggy isnt signed soon & that would be hard if they are not even talking now. He must be traded then. No choice.

5/Detroits goalie really did suck.Why didnt they keep Joey Tomatoe & waive the sesame street "Monster" instead?

Been hearing how Feaster is paying attention to the pulse of fans about trading Iggy. For the last quite awhile I have been reading the blogs & posts on this site, the majority of Flames fans on Flames Nation feel it's time for Jerome to go complete his resume & win a Cup. Wonder if Kent & the writers backed by Flames Nation write a joint letter to the Calgary Herald editor along the line of "Thankyou Jerome. You are a Flame no matter what jersey you wear. Thank you for being such a great human being in the community, an ambassador of Calgary & one of the greatest Flames ever. We understand and give our blessing to want to win a Cup, we wish it was for us but the Flames clearily must start to rebuild and retool so this team can be a contender once again. We know you do not have the time to wait for what this team needs to do in the near future. Good luck & Godspeed with winning a Cup!" You know something along that line. I'm not that good of a writer, you guys are. Just a suggestion please dont crucify me.

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#35 icedawg_42
March 14 2013, 10:10AM
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I couldn't help thinking over and over last night that JBo would really fit in with Detroit. Not that I want him gone....

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#38 Subversive
March 14 2013, 10:44AM
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bookofloob wrote:

I have a whole post on it coming soon.

Look, you can make a defensible position either way, I get your perspective too. Saying what you said about people who think the other thing being idiots, maybe you're just trying to be clever, not sure. But you're really going to stand by the position that wanting the Flames to lose an individual game in order to effect lasting and positive change in the organization as a whole is indefensible and anyone who thinks that is an idiot? Really?

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#41 icedawg_42
March 14 2013, 11:12AM
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@Vintage Flame

As long as the wins and Kippers performances don't make Feaster start to think it's ok with us if he stands pat..or worse buys at the deadline.

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#42 the-wolf
March 14 2013, 11:16AM
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@Vintage Flame

"No real fan gets upset if their team wins."

"This applies to ALL Flames fans if you are a true fan. In the open, you may say you want them to lose, but when you're by yourself and they win, you're no doubt smiling, even if it's on the inside."

No, I'm not. Makes me angry when they win.

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#43 icedawg_42
March 14 2013, 11:20AM
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I think I'd be openly ecstatic about goals and wins IF I ever got the sense that management had a grasp on what they really have, and what they will do.

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#44 RexLibris
March 14 2013, 11:22AM
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@Vintage Flame

Yeah, actually. I didn't want to go on any longer than I had, but the allegory actually has a great deal of applicable wisdom for the Flames right now - not necessarily the team, but certainly management.

In trying to climb higher they took no notice of their impending peril. The Greeks were masters at the art of hubristic irony, and any cursory reading of their geopolitical history will tell you: they didn't just talk the talk. =)

Rexipedia - not a bad blog name, actually. I think I may have to remember that one. ;)

Here's a question for you, let's imagine the Flames get the 4th overall pick. Would you trade down with Columbus if it meant getting two 1st round picks at, say, 9th and 14th?

If I were steering the team towards a complete rebuild, I probably would. The depth and diversity could provide a strong foundation to build upon in subsequent years when a high pick is expected.

Just a thought.

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#45 RexLibris
March 14 2013, 11:41AM
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As someone who has watched his team delude itself (and the fan base along with it) into thinking "we could be a contender this year, if only..." for many, many years, I am with the-wolf on this one.

Sometimes, the situation calls for tough love. Hoping a team loses in order to get the message through isn't traitorous or indicative of low moral fibre, it is wanting the best for what you love.

Sometimes a parent hopes their child can come up against small failures and obstacles because they know that facing these challenges and learning from them will empower them to overcome the inevitably greater risks ahead.

A win now does nothing for the Flames, every loss, however, pushes the team closer to making real, constructive change.

I know you guys hate this, but look how bad things had to get in Edmonton before they finally woke up and decided to do something different. And if you want to consider yourselves smarter or more enlightened than your northern neighbours doesn't it seem rational to try and take stock of the situation objectively and hope for the result that best achieves your long-term goals?

I'm not suggesting the Flames have to do what the Oilers did, but they certainly can't keep doing what they are now, and anybody who tells you that the team can follow the supposed models of Ottawa or Philadelphia hasn't taken stock of the real available talent the Flames have right now. The Flames don't have a single one of the assets that either of those teams had when they went through their down year.

Most Oiler fans here in Edmonton feel a sick sense of deja vu when we see the Flames now.

If fans think that watching this group right now is bad, or that the O'Reilly debacle was the bottom, just wait. Remember how the Oilers offer sheeted Vanek, then Penner? The Souray scandal, then Nylander, the failed Hossa signing and the Heatley disaster?

It took all of those things to happen, as well as a train wreck of a season ushered in by an over-the-hill coach and a boatload of injuries just to get the point across to management and ownership that, guess what? The Oilers were a bad team! They didn't just have to hit rock bottom, they needed to get buried under a landslide of manure to figure it out.

Do fans want the Flames to take as long to learn the same lesson?

The Flames are sputtering, but I suspect that it will take a major shock to the team to induce the kind of change fans appear to want. So cheering for some losses makes perfect sense. It is the only thing left for some fans to do in this situation.

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#46 icedawg_42
March 14 2013, 11:48AM
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@RexLibris

To me sitting in last (even for a short time) halfway through the season, should be shock enough.

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#47 the-wolf
March 14 2013, 11:49AM
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RexLibris wrote:

Yeah, actually. I didn't want to go on any longer than I had, but the allegory actually has a great deal of applicable wisdom for the Flames right now - not necessarily the team, but certainly management.

In trying to climb higher they took no notice of their impending peril. The Greeks were masters at the art of hubristic irony, and any cursory reading of their geopolitical history will tell you: they didn't just talk the talk. =)

Rexipedia - not a bad blog name, actually. I think I may have to remember that one. ;)

Here's a question for you, let's imagine the Flames get the 4th overall pick. Would you trade down with Columbus if it meant getting two 1st round picks at, say, 9th and 14th?

If I were steering the team towards a complete rebuild, I probably would. The depth and diversity could provide a strong foundation to build upon in subsequent years when a high pick is expected.

Just a thought.

"Here's a question for you, let's imagine the Flames get the 4th overall pick. Would you trade down with Columbus if it meant getting two 1st round picks at, say, 9th and 14th?

If I were steering the team towards a complete rebuild, I probably would. The depth and diversity could provide a strong foundation to build upon in subsequent years when a high pick is expected."

No, Calgary is in desperate need of a bonafide all-new superstar. It comes down to that. A single player to become the new face of the team and build around. Calgary has plenty of other opportunities to add depth.

If you trade the players I listed and go for prospects over picks you shorten the rebuild time, but you also fail miserably this year.

In other words, if you could add players like (as examples) Jarnkrok, Nyqvist, Pouliot, Maata, Bennett, etc. to a Nathan Mackinnon and then add that to Brodie, Baerstchi and Backlund. Then mix that with the vets I listed keeping. You'd have a new superstar and skilled depth, both veteran and young (but not completely raw).

But large brass ones and smart hockey minds are required.

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#48 Derzie
March 14 2013, 10:24PM
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I love the team, don't dislike one player but hate management. I see the leaders in Detroit and LA and am envious. The common thread for success is those leaders are hockey people. We have exactly zero of that commodity in Calgary. My brain wants the Flames to lose every damn game and the seats to drain empty to kick management in the butt to do something intelligent (like replace themselves with hockey people). My heart wants wins like last night. Maybe we'll get lucky and get both (or neither). At least we don't have Tambellini. Could not be more useless. The benchmark of bad.

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#49 Tenbrucelees
March 15 2013, 05:04AM
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No one should ever cheer for their team to lose. Ever.

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#50 Subversive
March 15 2013, 11:03AM
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Tenbrucelees wrote:

No one should ever cheer for their team to lose. Ever.

Something something something my opinion something something. FACT.

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