POST-GAME: Thank You Iggy!!!

Vintage Flame
March 24 2013 10:24PM

 

This team needed a win! It didn't matter how they got it, who they had to run over or who they got to score the goals to get them there, they just had to find a way to make it happen tonight.

It was fan appreciation night and I don't care who you are, you should never get embarrassed in your barn on the night you are trying to honour your fans for sticking with you through thick and thin; and let's face it folks, it's getting pretty thin for your Calgary Flames.

It would be the most unlikely of sources to get things going for the Flames tonight, and it would be the same guy, that was almost a healthy scratch tonight that would get the team back on the rails when the game started getting out of control. But it would be two familiar names, two household names that would keep it all in perspective and round things out to give this game the storybook ending that we all got to see.

So wipe the tears from your eyes and let's take a look back.

The Rundown

As you might have expected, since the Flames were back safely within the confines of the Saddledome that they would start this game with more jump than we have seen from them on the road.

There was nothing flashy about the start of this one, but there was also nothing devestating either. Miikka Kiprusoff made some decent saves in the forst half of the period to keep the two sides tied. One player that stood out was the Blues Alex Steen, who had a few chances. One had to think something had to happen for your Flames or else it was only a matter of time that something happened to them.

Brian McGrattan was a late scratch for the team which allowed Roman Cervenka to stay in the lineup. Hartley's intuition would be accurate as Cervenka would get the Flames on the board with just his fourth of the season. After Brodie and Wideman were able to get the puck out of their zone and down the ice, Roman would carry the puck into the St. Louis and let loose a perfectly placed wrist shot over the left shoulder of Halak.

A nice shot for the linguistically chalenged but talented Czech player; too bad we don't get to see it more often.

The rest of the period would fall on the shoulders of Kiprusoff as he continued with his Dr. Jekell persona. Calm and composed, Miikka faced some tough shots and open chances, but staved them off to keep his team ahead.

Not a sound period for the Flames as they were dominated 7-5 in shots, 4-2 in scoring chances and killed in the faceoff circle. Yet they were able to escape with the lead, so everything else was a wash. How long could they keep it up though?

The Blues didn't waste much time tilting the ice in the second period. Coming at Calgary with guns blazing, Kiprusoff continued to hold his ground, making one save after another. Calgary needed to do something fast if they wanted to avoid slipping into old habits that usually result in a disastrous period.

Cue Roman Cervenka... again, as he would take a pass from Jiri Hudler all alone in front of Jaro Halak. Showing some of that talent we have all been waiting to see, he made a deft move onto his backhand, which he raised over Halak and into the net. Good to see Roman earning some time on the PP, and having it pay dividends as well.

What also should be noted, was the great play of Mikael Backlund on the series. Not only was it Backs that carried the play into the zone, but he also displayed great hustle in getting all the way over to th other side of the ice to make sure the play stayed in the Blues zone before leaving the ice after his shift was over.

Backlund doesn't look 100% with that fractured foot, but he is still putting in the effort and making plays happen for the Flames.

Despite being grossly out-played, Cervenka was up 2-0 on the Blues, with a big assist to Miikka Kiprusoff. Where was the rest of the team?

It was becoming a turkey shoot on Kiprusoff as the Blues were out-shooting the Flames at a 4:1 ratio; and the Flames weren't helping their own cause with back-to-back careless penalties from Hudler and Glencross.

Despite the 2-0 lead, Calgary was letting the frustration of getting dominated get to them.

TJ Oshie, who went to the box with Glencross for unsportsmanlike, would step out of the box and steal the puck from an un-attentive Dennis Wideman. After that it was a foot race and as much as Wideman was trying to break up the play, Oshie was able to hold him off long enough to lift the wrist shot up and over Kiprusoff.

The Blues were back into it and now we would wait and see if the Flames would regroup or collapse... Jekyll or Hyde?

Not a good period by any metric for the Flames.mThey escaped once again with the lead, but there was also the sense that the dam was about to burst. They were out-shot 19-4 and St. Louis out-chanced then 10-2, nine of those were at even strength as well. Calgary problems 5 on 5 were continuing to plague them.

Calgary evened out the ice a little more to start the third, registering the first five shots of the period. When a team like the Flames start to take back the play, lately that means something also gives.

At 4:48, Kiprusoff doing his best to fend off the Blues, would lose sight of the rebound after a shot from the point. As he looked to find the puck, Vladamir Sobodka would tuck the puck under Kipper, and we were all tied up. All eyes now looking for Roman Cervenka, right?

Well it was Fan appreciation night, so if the fans were looking for a potential game winning goal, then closeyour eyes because all hearts look to the captain. And th captain would not disappoint.

Alex Tanguay would feed the pass up the middle, but after that it was all Iggy. Wade Redden doing everything he could to get back in the play actually almost took Iginla right out of it as he steered him past Halak's right... Almost. Instead Iginla would throw on the binders, turn and take the smallest amount of space given to him by Halak, as he slightly lifted his pad. With shades of Iggy yore, Jarome would slide the puck through the opening and give the Flames the 3-2 lead; the fans would respond in kind, as they roared to their feet, 19,000 strong.

For the rest of the period, it was all about protecting that third goal. It didn't matter if they scored another, just for the love of God, don't let the Blues score.

In the end, Calgary would be out-shot 38-17 and dominated 19-6 in scoring chances, but in the end no one cared. The Flames would win their seventh in a row at the Dome and tonight the game winner was scored by the one man everyone in Calgary is talking about. 

Why the Flames Won...

To be honest, I have no idea. When you come off an abyssmal road trip and then are so heavily dominated in your own barn, there is no way you should come out with the two points.

Except no one told that to Jarome Iginla and Miikka Kiprusoff.

On a night where it was fan appreciation night, it was the fans that would appreciate most, the effort of the two guys that are most likely to not remain with this team for much longer.

Sometimes life is an ironic game and Flames fans witnessed that first hand tonight.

Red Warrior

It was great to see Roman Cervenka display some of that flashy offensive prowess that we have heard about for so long. Scoring the first two Flames goals, including one while on the PP, most likely made Bob Hartley breathe a sigh of relief that he chose to start him over Brian McGrattan. It might have even gotten him out of Hartley's doghouse... maybe.

We can all agree though that your Calgary Flames would not have survived Fan Appreciation night, let alone won the game, if it had not been for Miikka Kiprusoff. He stopped 36 of 38 shots and 19 of those shots were straight up legit scoring chances. The boy stood on his head at times and had fans remembering back to when he was of a Vezina standard. However, the two goals he did let in were soft and were at really inopportune times for this team, so I couldn't go with him.

So who does that leave us...

Yeah, you know it. We're going with the Captain tonight.

Iggy played 16:42, had a couple of hits and even a pretty nice takeaway. He had 4 shots on net, but none nicer than the effort he layed out in scoring the game winning goal in the third.

I'm not going to sugar-coat this either. With rumours and speculation swirling around this city like vultures, this very well could have been the last goal we see from Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla. If that is indeed the case, then he is not just the Red Warrior for tonight, but all the years he has given this organization and city.

Scoring Chances

Blues Chances

 

Flames Chances

 

Scoring Chance Summary

Team Period Time Note Home Away State
Away 1 17:09 Steen 18 22 20 4 7 34 20 25 42 4 46 41 5v5
Home 1 8:48 Cervenka - Goal 24 12 13 5 26 34 21 74 4 22 41   5v4
Home 1 8:08 Tanguay 12 13 40 4 7 34 10 21 74 4 46 41 5v5
Away 1 7:24 Backes 18 22 20 5 26 34 20 25 42 6 22 41 5v5
Away 1 6:25 Pietrangelo 15 17 25 6 7 34 17 91 57 5 27 41 5v5
Away 1 4:45 MacDonald 12 13 4 7 34   10 25 5 27 41   4v4
Away 2 16:28 Berglund 18 22 20 5 26 34 10 21 74 5 27 41 5v5
Away 2 12:41 Oshie 10 11 24 6 44 34 10 21 74 4 46 41 5v5
Away 2 12:28 Tarasenko 12 13 40 5 26 34 17 91 57 5 27 41 5v5
Away 2 11:10 Backes 18 22 20 4 7 34 20 25 42 4 46 41 5v5
Away 2 11:00 Steen 10 11 24 5 26 34 10 21 74 5 27 41 5v5
Home 2 10:21 Cervenka - Goal 10 11 24 5 26 34 10 21 74 5 27 41 5v5
Away 2 9:28 Perron 15 17 25 6 44 34 9 12 32 6 22 41 5v5
Away 2 6:22 Oshie 22 17 4 26 34   10 42 91 57 22 41 4v5
Away 2 5:39 Backes 18 24 20 4 26 34 21 74 42 22 27 41 5v5
Away 2 5:35 Backes 18 24 20 4 26 34 21 74 42 22 27 41 5v5
Home 2 3:56 Iginla 18 12 4 7 34   20 21 22 27 41   4v4
Away 2 3:21 Oshie - Goal 10 24 20 5 26 34 74 25 42 22 27 41 5v5
Away 3 15:14 MacDonald 18 24 22 4 7 34 10 17 74 6 22 41 5v5
Away 3 15:13 Sobotka - Goal 18 24 22 4 7 34 10 17 74 6 22 41 5v5
Away 3 10:50 Porter 10 11 24 6 44 34 9 12 32 4 46 41 5v5
Home 3 7:27 Cammalleri 13 40 5 7 26 34 10 25 57 6 27 41 5v5
Home 3 7:02 Iginla - Goal 18 22 20 4 7 34 20 25 42 4 46 41 5v5
Away 3 5:25 Tarasenko 18 22 20 4 7 34 20 25 42 6 22 41 5v5
Away 3 4:44 Shattenkirk 18 22 20 4 7 34 17 91 57 22 27 41 5v5

 

Flames Player Summary

# Player EV     PP     SH    
4 BOUWMEESTER, JAY 25:35 3 9 00:40 0 0 03:33 0 1
5 GIORDANO, MARK 18:42 2 5 02:17 1 0 03:48 0 0
6 SARICH, CORY 09:11 0 4 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
7 BRODIE, TJ 22:00 4 8 01:12 0 0 00:03 0 0
10 CERVENKA, ROMAN 11:34 1 4 01:12 0 0 00:00 0 0
11 BACKLUND, MIKAEL 11:41 1 3 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
12 IGINLA, JAROME 14:30 2 2 02:17 1 0 00:00 0 0
13 CAMMALLERI, MIKE 12:55 2 2 02:17 1 0 01:59 0 0
15 JACKMAN, TIM 05:24 0 2 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
17 COMEAU, BLAKE 05:19 0 2 00:00 0 0 01:48 0 1
18 STAJAN, MATT 20:05 2 10 00:00 0 0 02:04 0 0
20 GLENCROSS, CURTIS 16:50 1 9 01:12 0 0 00:40 0 0
22 STEMPNIAK, LEE 16:08 1 8 00:00 0 0 01:37 0 1
24 HUDLER, JIRI 13:10 1 8 02:26 1 0 00:00 0 0
25 BEGIN, STEVE 05:05 0 2 00:00 0 0 01:10 0 0
26 WIDEMAN, DENNIS 16:20 2 7 02:49 1 0 03:43 0 1
34 KIPRUSOFF, MIIKKA   5 18   1 0   0 1
40 TANGUAY, ALEX 14:27 2 1 01:03 0 0 03:00 0 0
44 BUTLER, CHRIS 09:03 0 3 00:00 0 0 01:11 0 0

 

Blues Player Summary

# Player EV     PP     SH    
4 RUSSELL, KRIS 16:00 4 2 00:00 0 0 01:34 0 1
5 JACKMAN, BARRET 15:53 5 1 00:00 0 0 01:55 0 0
6 REDDEN, WADE 11:12 5 1 00:22 0 0 00:00 0 0
9 SCHWARTZ, JADEN 09:51 2 0 00:35 0 0 00:00 0 0
10 MCDONALD, ANDY 13:27 6 3 02:48 1 0 00:00 0 0
12 NICHOL, SCOTT 08:00 2 0 00:00 0 0 01:23 0 0
17 SOBOTKA, VLADIMIR 11:57 5 0 00:00 0 0 01:23 0 0
20 STEEN, ALEXANDER 16:21 4 2 02:55 0 0 00:46 0 0
21 BERGLUND, PATRIK 12:45 5 3 03:21 0 0 01:20 0 1
22 SHATTENKIRK, KEVIN 18:10 9 1 03:07 1 0 01:25 0 1
25 STEWART, CHRIS 15:37 6 2 02:38 0 0 00:00 0 0
27 PIETRANGELO, ALEX 23:06 9 3 03:02 0 0 01:55 0 0
32 PORTER, CHRIS 08:21 2 0 00:00 0 0 00:00 0 0
41 HALAK, JAROSLAV   18 5   1 0   0 1
42 BACKES, DAVID 16:05 7 1 03:43 1 0 00:46 0 0
46 POLAK, ROMAN 15:59 4 2 00:00 0 0 00:09 0 0
57 PERRON, DAVID 12:59 3 1 03:14 1 0 00:00 0 0
74 OSHIE, T.J. 13:13 8 2 03:21 0 0 01:20 0 1
91 TARASENKO, VLADIMIR 10:02 3 0 01:39 1 0 00:00 0 0

 

Flames Totals

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 2 4 1 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2 2 10 2 9 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
3 2 5 2 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Blues Totals

Period Totals EV PP 5v3 PP SH 5v3 SH
1 4 2 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
2 10 2 9 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 5 2 5 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

  

Sum It Up

Tonight was a night that Flames won a game they had no business winning. 

While some would complain, I think that it's important for the fanbase that we do still get to see nights like tonight, especially when you get to see the performances we did out of guys like Cervenka.

There can be no denying that this was probably Kipper's best game this year, and it should be considered that, because he outright stole this one for the Flames. He was composed and made several 10 bell saves to keep Calgary in it; setting the stage for a storybook ending.

Seeing Iggy make that rush, shake off Redden and then turn and score the game winner... as a Flames fan, how could you not have a smile on your face while sitting on the edge of your seat?

It was an iconic play from an iconic player that has served this city well. There is so much speculation as to what happens in the next few days. We know that Pittsburgh is out of the running with the Morrow(s) deal, so that leave Chicago, LA, and Boston as the main players. Boston is most interesting as they are going to want to answer the bell on the Pittsburgh deal, so does that drive up the value or the asking price on Iggy? We should soon find out.

But, if this is the last time #12 takes the ice for the home team in the Saddledome, then with all the emotions and all the mixed feelings that plague my mind right now, I have but one comment left to make...

THANK YOU IGGY!

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#1 aloudoun
March 24 2013, 10:40PM
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I was at the Dome tonight. Now I am not a regular (got some tickets from a friend) but there was almost an erie feeling in the crowd tonight. You could sense that people were uneasy of what the Flames were going to do and at the end they kept the camera on Iggy as he left the ice. The crowd was the loudest when we scored. (it wasn't very loud for the rest of the game.) Even talking to the elevator guy before the game he said things were tense and uneasy around the Dome. He also made it clear that Iggy wouldn't be a Flame next week. No one will ever wear #12 for the Flames ever again and it is sad Iggy cant hoist a cup in a Flaming C. Having said that... he deserves better than this.

But on the bright side Kippers and Iggys value probably went up because of this game.

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#3 Justin Azevedo
March 25 2013, 06:22PM
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@the-wolf

I feel like people are forgetting that he's 35 and that he was never characterized as a vocal leader.

if your team has issues with a mid-30's player showing up for practice, then it's the other players' problem, not his. when he needs to be out there, he is.

why was there no talk of his lack of leadership before the team started to perform poorly, exactly? it's a narrative borne out of frustration, a straw man argument.

the team doesn't suffer because of "leadership issues". the team suffers because it isn't good enough.

sure, iginla's been played buttloads of money over his career, but tell me exactly how many teams have someone who's able to do what shutout is implying needs to be done by a star?

it wasn't a personal insult, mainly just pointing out that none of us are on the team and thus none of us know the dynamics at play.

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#4 chillout
March 25 2013, 06:46PM
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Chilliout it seems like you have a problem with wolf's statement, perhaps you are so fond of the Iginla poster on your ceiling that you have not been able to evaluate the game of hockey without it being based on hero worship. The last 15 years that you mention has included five playoff appearances and only once in those five years has the team been able to get past the first round. This amazing and elite captain has gone through seven head coaches in those 15 years on a team that has been a chronic underachieving organization. For all of the bluster about what a great captain he is, the last four coaches have publically stated that there are issues with leadership in the dressing room.

The issue is that you seem to be a fan of the Calgary Iginlas whereas other fans like wolf seem to be a fan of the Calgary Flames. No one player is bigger than the organization, and no one player is more important to the future of the organization. Unfortunantly Murray Edwards has forgotten that. There should only be one objective to owning, working for, playing for, or cheering for an NHL team. And that is to win the Stanley Cup. Everything should be done to move the organization closer to that goal and holding onto Iginla for the last few years has been counter productive to that goal.

Now I suppose that had I no knowledge of hockey, team sports, or competitive fire I might get choked up about your statement "... (sob) being in a bad situation year after year with a mountain (sob)..." as I am pretty certain that you must have shed a few tears while you wrote it. But the truth is that he was paid a whole lot of money (+$70M) to lead this team to playoff success and he has been for the most part a bust. Time to move on and let emotional sentiment die along the way.

As for the "mom" comment only a complete juvenille moron comes onto a pretty mature based discussion board and has to make asinine comments because his feelings got hurt that somebody made a comment about his favorite wet dream fantasy. Grow up or go post on CP.

apparently you didn't understand where I was coming from or what I wrote. I am a fan of the Calgary Flames but I as a fan of hockey and sports know that a team is more than one person and laying the blame of failure at the feet of Iginla is completely idiotic and only someone who knows nothing of the game would base the entire performance of a team on a single member of that team(goalies not included). You can say what you want about being paid a ton of money but that has absolutely nothing to with anything that has happened or is happening to the club.

Iginla may not be the best leader and may be overly comfortable to the point of feeling above the coaches. That is more a problem with the system and how he has been treated as the only star player on this team for years. It could happen to anyone to slip into that kind of mentality. You can't deny more than 500 goals and 1000 points. That kind of production is pretty rare to get from a single player. He may not be the player he once was but who's fault is that? uhhh you know time....happens to everybody.

Oh and the mom comment had nothing to do with his mother. I was essentially asking if he was mad at Iginla for not being the player he once was and if he was mad at his mom for not making his lunch like she used to. Kinda stupid to get mad at a player for getting old or at your mom for not making your lunch anymore right? so if I were you I'd keep the juvenile, moronic comments to yourself or go post on another website.

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#5 schevvy
March 24 2013, 10:24PM
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TEH!!!

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#6 Justin Azevedo
March 24 2013, 10:32PM
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man iggy what a guy

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#7 Ryan Pike
March 24 2013, 10:35PM
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A class act, that Jarome Iginla.

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#8 ChinookArch
March 24 2013, 10:36PM
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Thank you for all the great memories Iggy.

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#10 RickT
March 24 2013, 10:55PM
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Disappointed you didn't mention Backlund on that second Cervenka goal.

That being said, thank you Iggy. For everything.

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#11 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
March 24 2013, 11:09PM
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Man, people believe the Iginla trade is a done deal. The nostalgia may turn into anger and frustration when he`s still here April 4th. Quite frankly, I still think it is 50-50 whether Iggy goes. If they keep staying within 4 pts of eighth, I doubt he will be traded -especially if nobody wants to meet Feaster;s purportedly exorbitant demands (many observers have already commented that Feaster`s sky-high demands are reflective of the organization`s disinclination to move him).

Regardless, I`ve tuned out the Flames for most of this year anyways. I just don`t like the brand of hockey they play or the lack of determination and grit they evince day in and day out. I miss the D Sutter coached teams of the mid-decade -teams that checked hard, hit hard, and played a decent puck-possession game, especially in the cycle down low. Hell,even with Keenan, if it wasn`t for a spate of injuries in the series against Chicago, we would have probably won. But there was no denying they played their hearts out. The Blackhawks were a big, physical team, but even their players acknowledged that the Flames gave them a pounding in that 6 game series, despite missing some key pieces.

With regards to the current iteration of the Flames, there isn`t much that gets me excited enough to follow them on a consistent basis. They are`nt a skilled, puck-possession team with an up-tempo game; and they ain`t a physical, defensive stalwart (not that the two styles are antitheses of one another). They`re just......meh?!!?

Plus, it`s heart-breaking to see Iggy and Kipper reach the twilight of their careers without a cup in Calgary. 2004 is but a fond memory -hell, it was the most exciting time in Calgary for me as a young PhD student -but it seems so long ago. Aside from that one year, this team has been a failure for over two decades.

And I miss the youthful Iggy that gave us such hope with his skill, tenacity, power, grace, and class. HE and Kipper made me proud to be a fan of the flaming C. Now....

Sorry guys, this isn`t meant to be a rant. Just a disjointed ode to better times.

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#12 Jibmeister
March 24 2013, 11:30PM
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Was a fun game to watch. You just have that feeling in the back of your head the whole time though, if he goes, it's gonna be a very sad end to an era.

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#13 meat1
March 24 2013, 11:32PM
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I tried my best in an earlier post today to make us all aware of the contributions Jarome has made. I feel the time has come for Iginla to be traded, and I have made that very clear since the lockout ended. I don't want to sound like a broken record.

In the next few days, we will flock to the Flames schedule, just to find out when the Hawks, or Bruins, or Kings, etc next come to town. The reason won't be to see Toews, or Chara, or Doughty.

In no time, we will wait for the chance to see Jarome Iginla, a man who has served our team, our town, our Country, so well and with such dignity...skate out onto the ice. Just so we can thank him by standing and cheering. At that point, though, he will be a visitor, in a different uniform, scoring and fighting and graciously representing a different team.

The Iginla era will end in less than 10 days. He will go down in history as our favorite son. Only two home games remain before the deadline. Let's not wait until he returns with a new team, to thank him for everything. He has tried his best, and he has represented us wonderfully. He will go to the hall of fame, and he will go because of his time as a Calgary Flame.

Please stand up Wednesday night, and Friday night, too, if it isn't too late. Let's honor our Captain....

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#14 HockeyNutz
March 24 2013, 11:36PM
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@chillgoose...well if the elevator guy said it...it must be happening for sure. I bet he has all the inside scoops.

And for all those that think Iggy is as good as gone...the Flames are only 5 points out of a playoff spot with 18 games to go...and a game at hand over most of the teams ahead of them.

I'm not saying they are going to make it...I am saying they are close enough that the brain(less) trust upstairs may actually think they stand a chance once again this year!

Also...anyone know why the Flames took the puck after Iggy's goal?

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#15 lionlager
March 24 2013, 11:48PM
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That win felt good. Real good.

What are the odds that Iggy gets moved, goes on 1 run with whoever, then re-signs with the Flames in the summer though? Isn't that a real possibility?

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#16 fretsey
March 25 2013, 12:15AM
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Really happy Iggy got the GWG and Kipper stole this one...a good win

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#17 Petemaherrocks
March 25 2013, 12:18AM
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Can someone please explain to me why Jarome gets treated differently than a guy like Shane Doan,having rented the center ice package for this short season I have watched some homer coyotes broadcasts I can tell you they believe doaner is the greatest captain there ever was is or will be in the NHL , basically the coyotes have zero intentions of dumping Doan and calgary fans are chasing iggy away with burning torches and the fact is neither club is closer then the other to a Stanley cup run Unless the the trade offer blows jays pants off why trade him. Just because some of us want to keep Iggy around doesn't mean we're still holding on to 2004.

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#18 Colin S
March 25 2013, 12:29AM
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Petemaherrocks wrote:

Can someone please explain to me why Jarome gets treated differently than a guy like Shane Doan,having rented the center ice package for this short season I have watched some homer coyotes broadcasts I can tell you they believe doaner is the greatest captain there ever was is or will be in the NHL , basically the coyotes have zero intentions of dumping Doan and calgary fans are chasing iggy away with burning torches and the fact is neither club is closer then the other to a Stanley cup run Unless the the trade offer blows jays pants off why trade him. Just because some of us want to keep Iggy around doesn't mean we're still holding on to 2004.

What?

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#19 Kevin R
March 25 2013, 12:49AM
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Petemaherrocks wrote:

Can someone please explain to me why Jarome gets treated differently than a guy like Shane Doan,having rented the center ice package for this short season I have watched some homer coyotes broadcasts I can tell you they believe doaner is the greatest captain there ever was is or will be in the NHL , basically the coyotes have zero intentions of dumping Doan and calgary fans are chasing iggy away with burning torches and the fact is neither club is closer then the other to a Stanley cup run Unless the the trade offer blows jays pants off why trade him. Just because some of us want to keep Iggy around doesn't mean we're still holding on to 2004.

Most here want Iggy to win a Cup. He deserves better than the gong show named the Calgary Flames. Phoenix made it through the 3rd round last year, we havent even made it to the playoffs in 3 years. I wouldnt blame Iginla one bit to move on to a team that has it's house in order and will contend for the Cup. Iginla is giving us his last gift he possibly could give, waiving his NTC & helping the Flames jump start a fresh new beginning & era. I truly hope we see Jerome in a management position one day in Calgary. No matter where he wins a Cup, he will always be the pride of Calgary.

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#20 petemaherrocks
March 25 2013, 01:34AM
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Colin S wrote:

What?

I dont think Iggy wants to go.

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#21 Tenbrucelees
March 25 2013, 02:40AM
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In contrast to nearly everyone on this site, I want to see Iginla finish his career as a Flame.

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#22 The Last Big Bear
March 25 2013, 03:21AM
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I don't think I understand your scoring chance summary...

I thought that the numbers were supposed to be the numbers of the players on the ice when said scoring chance or event happened?

But (for example) Iginla is not listed as being on the ice for the goal that he scored. Same with Cervenka for one of his goals. And I don't know what number Steen is, but he's credited twice on the scoring chance summary, while the only number that shows up on both scoring chances is Halak's.

I assume I'm misunderstanding something?

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#23 The Last Big Bear
March 25 2013, 03:23AM
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Oh, and the Flames were AWFUL as a team. Kipper should get the Red Warrior for this and the next 3 games for this win.

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#24 negrilcowboy
March 25 2013, 07:46AM
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badchuk and sarich are available for trade. thatta boy flying j entice teams with those beauties.

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#25 Q
March 25 2013, 08:35AM
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So the Fan reports that Spector has jay wanting a pick and two prospects. Please! At that rate iggy isn't going anywhere. Ownership wants what he was worth 3 yrs ago!

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#26 suba steve
March 25 2013, 08:53AM
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Q wrote:

So the Fan reports that Spector has jay wanting a pick and two prospects. Please! At that rate iggy isn't going anywhere. Ownership wants what he was worth 3 yrs ago!

Yes, and when I sold my Vette, I asked for 25,000. In the end, I got closer to 20,000, and was happy enough with what I got. A lot on this site are worried Feaster will get fleeced and if he comes into negotiations asking for a "fair" price, he will never hit that homerun we are all hoping for. Good luck to Iggy, and to Feaster.

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#27 Alt
March 25 2013, 09:26AM
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Thanks Iggy A class act and warrior

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#28 RexLibris
March 25 2013, 10:00AM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

badchuk and sarich are available for trade. thatta boy flying j entice teams with those beauties.

I laughed at that one too.

Because there was no way Feaster would part with either one before.

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#29 Michael
March 25 2013, 10:21AM
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Q wrote:

So the Fan reports that Spector has jay wanting a pick and two prospects. Please! At that rate iggy isn't going anywhere. Ownership wants what he was worth 3 yrs ago!

Iggy wants to go to a contender, so any pick coming back isn't going to be a high one. Any first round pick is likely to be in the twenties, and what does prospect mean? Taylor Hall quality or Paul Bryon quality? Unless we can get some sort of a bidding war going, and with only four teams on the list, that is going to be tough, the returns might be fair to good but not great. The second part of the return is how you spend the cap space in the off season.

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#30 Michael
March 25 2013, 10:23AM
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RexLibris wrote:

I laughed at that one too.

Because there was no way Feaster would part with either one before.

Feaster signed both of them to extenstions, not his finest signings!

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#31 the-wolf
March 25 2013, 10:30AM
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This column is indicative of what's been wrong with this org for years. Dripping of nostalgia and hero worship. Team does crap all game, all season really, but Iginla scores a complete fluke and suddenly fans are practically on their knees in adoration. Sorry VF, but that goal description was pure spin. Easily one of the softest goals I've seen all year turned into a daring act of all time sports heroism. Salute the captain, etc. 7 million a year for no leadership and a county club atmosphere and once past the first round. Should've been moved years ago. You'll get no star struck groveling from me good sir. Thanks for nothing Iginla. And good riddance.

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#32 danglesnipecelly
March 25 2013, 10:50AM
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suba steve wrote:

Yes, and when I sold my Vette, I asked for 25,000. In the end, I got closer to 20,000, and was happy enough with what I got. A lot on this site are worried Feaster will get fleeced and if he comes into negotiations asking for a "fair" price, he will never hit that homerun we are all hoping for. Good luck to Iggy, and to Feaster.

A pick and two prospects is more than realistic. This is actually less than the original reports of a pick, a prospect and a roster player.

If it ends up being two prospects then I hope it's Chicago... they have more than a few interesting players coming up.

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#33 danglesnipecelly
March 25 2013, 10:53AM
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Michael wrote:

Feaster signed both of them to extenstions, not his finest signings!

Don't laugh too hard, apparently LA is interested in Sarich. Old Daryl seems to be trying to make amends for all the damage he did at the end of his time in Cgy. If he takes Sarich and helps drive up the price for Iggy - bonus!

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#34 chillout
March 25 2013, 11:10AM
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the-wolf wrote:

This column is indicative of what's been wrong with this org for years. Dripping of nostalgia and hero worship. Team does crap all game, all season really, but Iginla scores a complete fluke and suddenly fans are practically on their knees in adoration. Sorry VF, but that goal description was pure spin. Easily one of the softest goals I've seen all year turned into a daring act of all time sports heroism. Salute the captain, etc. 7 million a year for no leadership and a county club atmosphere and once past the first round. Should've been moved years ago. You'll get no star struck groveling from me good sir. Thanks for nothing Iginla. And good riddance.

Really???....Really? Come on now that's just a stupid statement. Do you watch hockey? Do you know anything about the last 14 years or so? Do you know anything about being on a team? Anything at all? About being in a bad situation year after year with a mountain of expectations on you?.......completely idiotic. Do you get mad at your mom for not making you lunch since you moved out?

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#35 meat1
March 25 2013, 11:13AM
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@the-wolf

I enjoy this site because everyone is free to express their opinion. Obviously, in this column, I have to disagree with yours.

I feel it is extremely important for the future of this franchise that Iggy gets dealt. Complaining that it should have happened two or three years ago is water under the bridge. He will never be worth more than he is now.

But for you to come on here and suggest that he has done nothing for this organization is a joke. I assume, by your mocking of what may be his last goal as a Flame, that you've scored a better one.

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#36 Smokey
March 25 2013, 11:44AM
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Flames fans have nothing to worry about Jarome leaving. If the price is a top 4, prospect and first rounder then you have seen already what other GM's thought of that response with what Pittsburgh did yesterday. LA, Boston, and Chicago can't afford a top 4 defenseman going.

Feaster should of been able to get Joe Morrow and and a couple other B rated prospects. LA has defence problems so their not in a conversation with Feaster if he's firm. Lambo would probably deal his first and say a Linden Vey or Forbot for Iginla. Chicago might deal a Saad and a first, a third maybe. I really don't know what else they have. I don't buy the B's being in the marketplace with the asking price or having assets that Feaster wants. Boston has a team that can compete with or without Iggy, however with Jarome they would be the favorite. How good would Jarome look patrolling the wing, they would be scary in Beantown. Frankly think Iginla will be in Calgary after the deadline.

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#37 Justin Azevedo
March 25 2013, 11:55AM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

I don't think I understand your scoring chance summary...

I thought that the numbers were supposed to be the numbers of the players on the ice when said scoring chance or event happened?

But (for example) Iginla is not listed as being on the ice for the goal that he scored. Same with Cervenka for one of his goals. And I don't know what number Steen is, but he's credited twice on the scoring chance summary, while the only number that shows up on both scoring chances is Halak's.

I assume I'm misunderstanding something?

nhl.com is weird with its timing and the chance app we're using is brand new so there's bugs to be worked out yet.

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#39 the-wolf
March 25 2013, 01:57PM
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Fair enough, I actually didn't get that, so my bad.

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#40 shutout
March 25 2013, 03:17PM
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chillout wrote:

Really???....Really? Come on now that's just a stupid statement. Do you watch hockey? Do you know anything about the last 14 years or so? Do you know anything about being on a team? Anything at all? About being in a bad situation year after year with a mountain of expectations on you?.......completely idiotic. Do you get mad at your mom for not making you lunch since you moved out?

Chilliout it seems like you have a problem with wolf's statement, perhaps you are so fond of the Iginla poster on your ceiling that you have not been able to evaluate the game of hockey without it being based on hero worship. The last 15 years that you mention has included five playoff appearances and only once in those five years has the team been able to get past the first round. This amazing and elite captain has gone through seven head coaches in those 15 years on a team that has been a chronic underachieving organization. For all of the bluster about what a great captain he is, the last four coaches have publically stated that there are issues with leadership in the dressing room.

The issue is that you seem to be a fan of the Calgary Iginlas whereas other fans like wolf seem to be a fan of the Calgary Flames. No one player is bigger than the organization, and no one player is more important to the future of the organization. Unfortunantly Murray Edwards has forgotten that. There should only be one objective to owning, working for, playing for, or cheering for an NHL team. And that is to win the Stanley Cup. Everything should be done to move the organization closer to that goal and holding onto Iginla for the last few years has been counter productive to that goal.

Now I suppose that had I no knowledge of hockey, team sports, or competitive fire I might get choked up about your statement "... (sob) being in a bad situation year after year with a mountain (sob)..." as I am pretty certain that you must have shed a few tears while you wrote it. But the truth is that he was paid a whole lot of money (+$70M) to lead this team to playoff success and he has been for the most part a bust. Time to move on and let emotional sentiment die along the way.

As for the "mom" comment only a complete juvenille moron comes onto a pretty mature based discussion board and has to make asinine comments because his feelings got hurt that somebody made a comment about his favorite wet dream fantasy. Grow up or go post on CP.

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#41 negrilcowboy
March 25 2013, 04:04PM
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shutout wrote:

Chilliout it seems like you have a problem with wolf's statement, perhaps you are so fond of the Iginla poster on your ceiling that you have not been able to evaluate the game of hockey without it being based on hero worship. The last 15 years that you mention has included five playoff appearances and only once in those five years has the team been able to get past the first round. This amazing and elite captain has gone through seven head coaches in those 15 years on a team that has been a chronic underachieving organization. For all of the bluster about what a great captain he is, the last four coaches have publically stated that there are issues with leadership in the dressing room.

The issue is that you seem to be a fan of the Calgary Iginlas whereas other fans like wolf seem to be a fan of the Calgary Flames. No one player is bigger than the organization, and no one player is more important to the future of the organization. Unfortunantly Murray Edwards has forgotten that. There should only be one objective to owning, working for, playing for, or cheering for an NHL team. And that is to win the Stanley Cup. Everything should be done to move the organization closer to that goal and holding onto Iginla for the last few years has been counter productive to that goal.

Now I suppose that had I no knowledge of hockey, team sports, or competitive fire I might get choked up about your statement "... (sob) being in a bad situation year after year with a mountain (sob)..." as I am pretty certain that you must have shed a few tears while you wrote it. But the truth is that he was paid a whole lot of money (+$70M) to lead this team to playoff success and he has been for the most part a bust. Time to move on and let emotional sentiment die along the way.

As for the "mom" comment only a complete juvenille moron comes onto a pretty mature based discussion board and has to make asinine comments because his feelings got hurt that somebody made a comment about his favorite wet dream fantasy. Grow up or go post on CP.

you have to realize that iggy has a god like status amongst some of the faithful, you comment does echo what i have been stating for 3 years. iggy is a man, a hockey player and an asset, not the messiah. and as for leadership, you hit the nail on the head, 7 coaches.

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#42 Michael
March 25 2013, 04:28PM
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Iggy managed to achieve what he did through determination, hard work and fitness, and will likely retire as one of the top Flames all time. However, he lacked several of the x factors that make an elite player a star player, he didn't make the players around him better, and from the outside looking in, he wasn't really a leader. At this point, the Flames need to move on, get what they can salvage for Iggy, and invest the $7 million in cap savings wisely.

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#43 Justin Azevedo
March 25 2013, 04:40PM
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Michael wrote:

Iggy managed to achieve what he did through determination, hard work and fitness, and will likely retire as one of the top Flames all time. However, he lacked several of the x factors that make an elite player a star player, he didn't make the players around him better, and from the outside looking in, he wasn't really a leader. At this point, the Flames need to move on, get what they can salvage for Iggy, and invest the $7 million in cap savings wisely.

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go look at the teams from '00 to '09 and tell me he didn't make the players around him better. that's a ludicrous statement.

as for the leadership thing... that's just you placing too much importance on something you don't know anything about.

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#44 the-wolf
March 25 2013, 05:19PM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

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go look at the teams from '00 to '09 and tell me he didn't make the players around him better. that's a ludicrous statement.

as for the leadership thing... that's just you placing too much importance on something you don't know anything about.

Except we do know. For all the reasons shutout stated. He doesn't even attend practice most of the time - consummate leader, obviously. And while personal insults are expected, mods should be above that.

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#45 John Deere Green
March 25 2013, 07:18PM
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I'm with the-wolf and shutout on this one. Great posts gentlemen!

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#46 the-wolf
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I feel like people are forgetting that he's 35 and that he was never characterized as a vocal leader.

if your team has issues with a mid-30's player showing up for practice, then it's the other players' problem, not his. when he needs to be out there, he is.

why was there no talk of his lack of leadership before the team started to perform poorly, exactly? it's a narrative borne out of frustration, a straw man argument.

the team doesn't suffer because of "leadership issues". the team suffers because it isn't good enough.

sure, iginla's been played buttloads of money over his career, but tell me exactly how many teams have someone who's able to do what shutout is implying needs to be done by a star?

it wasn't a personal insult, mainly just pointing out that none of us are on the team and thus none of us know the dynamics at play.

Fair enough. And while it may come across that way, I certainly DO NOT lay all of the last 15 years worth of failure squarely on Jarome. I just get tired of the incessant fawning over him. Now he's qualified for managment? The team HAS to be bigger than any one player and from that point of view, his tenure has not been great.

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