Flames Wrap-Up 2013 Season: Hartley and Feaster Quotes

Ryan Pike
April 29 2013 05:49PM

 

 

On Sunday and Monday, the Calgary Flames held court for the media in the final two formal days of media availability of the 2013 hockey season. Most notably, head coach Bob Hartley spoke last on Sunday, while general manager Jay Feaster held an availability earlier today.

Here's the gist of what those guys spoke about:

BOB HARTLEY

As per usual, Hartley was fairly candid and honest regarding how he felt the team did – particularly during the last few weeks of the season.

- Feels that the club needs to add size and speed, but he's aware it won't be easy.

- Won't need to change coaching philosophy with the departures of some veterans, but noted the need for patience as the younger players grow.

- No timeline for naming a new captain exists.

- Purposefully mixed in rookies and veterans over past two weeks to see how the youngsters learned and how well the veterans helped them learn.

- Excited that T.J. Brodie will get a chance to play at the World Championships and praised his development.

- Also cited Mikael Backlund's progression this year as a good sign.

- Cited lack of consistency as a problem, as every part of the team's game weren't working at the same time.

- Noted he feels the team has a good group of young players pushing for full-time jobs.

- “The draft is almost like buying a lottery ticket. We always think that you always get a winner, but at the same time, it takes time.”

JAY FEASTER

Feaster also was honest about the club, not mincing words regarding where he felt the team fell short. However, he wasn't all doom and gloom, either.

- Disappointed with the season. It's unacceptable to miss playoffs for four straight seasons.

- Bright spots: Matt Stajan, Mikael Backlund, T.J. Brodie, Jay Bouwmeester (which led to a good return when he was traded), Joey MacDonald

- Negatives: defensive zone play and goals against, quality of scoring chances against, “frustrating and maddening level of inconsistency from a veteran-laden group" (one of the juicer quotes of the afternoon).

- Thought team's compete level was good most of the season, even when they got down in games.

- Hasn't spoken with Kiprusoff, will give him time to think about things and then will have a sit-down with him. They've been preparing for a post-Kipper world by adding MacDonald, Reto Berra and Karri Ramo over the past few seasons.

- Mikael Backlund has been invited to join Team Sweden for the Worlds, may be able to do that pending a meeting with Flames doctors (editor update - fractured foot. No go). Reto Berra (Switzerland) will be playing at the Worlds. Confirmed earlier reports that Jiri Hudler (Czech Republic), T.J. Brodie (Canada) and Chris Butler (USA) will also be there.

- Calgary and Abbotsford's coaches, as well as the hockey ops department, will meet over the next few days to evaluate every player in the organization. After those meetings, Feaster and John Weisbrod will present a plan to team ownership. They won't be discussing the plan in public.

- Amateur scouts will be meeting in two weeks to refine their list for the draft. Feaster reiterated that the draft is deep in their minds, but that there's four elite players (and some very good players) at the top. They're keeping their options open regarding moving picks at the draft, but noted that if they move their own first (the sixth overall pick, pre-lottery), it'd be in an attempt to move up.

- Development camp is July 10-16 at Winsport; Penticton rookie tournament is September 5-9.

- Team's Needs: size and grit, centers, physical presence on blueline, accelerating “physical development of younger players.”

- Big reason behind bringing in young players down the stretch was to help their physical development over the summer.

- Team will have discussions about amnesty buy-outs to help with a direction change, can't rule out using it.

- Noted it's hard to add size and grit in free agency, but cited that the team has resources (first round picks and cap space) that may help.

- Praised the preparedness level of the call-ups and the Abbotsford coaching staff. He noted that the organization isn't physically big, so that's a concern. Praised Roman Horak, Max Reinhart, Sven Baertschi, among others, for how they played down the stretch. Noted the team had hoped to get a longer look at Paul Byron, but he got hurt.

- Have had internal conversations about a goaltending plan. Noted he feels Joni Ortio is ready to be a to number-one goalie in the AHL.

- Praised the teaching ability and preparation level of the new coaching staff, but noted that there was very little practice time and the challenges of a shortened training camp and a truncated season.

- Noted that losses may be the result of dressing more young players, but that the expectation has to be that everybody's trying to win every game. (In other words, the Flames aren't being told that they should make the playoffs, but that the expectation is that they're always trying to win each game and trying to make the playoffs.)

- Shared that Stajan attributed his turn-around to the coaching staff having confidence in him, so he had confidence in himself. Noted that Stajan came into camp in great shape, despite having a busy work stoppage due to his role in the NHLPA.

- Also praised Backlund for putting in the work with the coaching staff throughout this season.

- Doesn't think re-signing Brodie will be an issue. Team believes there are special things ahead for Brodie and that this was his break-out season.

That's the good folks. Discuss.

 

51a8cdc527ce12d222fdc583f3cf4368
Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
Avatar
#1 ChinookArch
April 29 2013, 05:54PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Off topic:

Any consensus on what channel to watch the lottery pick?

Avatar
#2 Kent Wilson
April 29 2013, 05:57PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@ChinookArch

TSN

Avatar
#3 Baalzamon
April 29 2013, 05:59PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

thanks for taking the time to put all this together.

Re: Captaincy. Why not make Gio and Glenny co-captains?

Nothing unexpected here. No Ramo for Finland?

Looking forward to the draft. Hoping my intrigue is warranted.

Avatar
#4 JaromeLoob1989
April 29 2013, 06:15PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Hey Kent do they broadcast the lottery live?

Avatar
#5 Kent Wilson
April 29 2013, 06:16PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@JaromeLoob1989

It's on TSN right now.

Avatar
#6 schevvy
April 29 2013, 06:17PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

C'mon lottery balls.

Avatar
#7 Scary Gary
April 29 2013, 06:18PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Thank goodness Pho didn't win the lottery.

Avatar
#8 Scary Gary
April 29 2013, 06:20PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Oh well six it is.

Avatar
#9 RKD
April 29 2013, 06:21PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Yup 6 it is, I think they pick Lindholm or Monahan.

Avatar
#10 JaromeLoob1989
April 29 2013, 06:23PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Lindholm is projected to be a Forsberg type of player. Can't complain about that!

Avatar
#11 schevvy
April 29 2013, 06:23PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Colorado wins. Guarantee they pick Jones. He's from Denver

Avatar
#12 Scary Gary
April 29 2013, 06:26PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
schevvy wrote:

Colorado wins. Guarantee they pick Jones. He's from Denver

There's already so much young talent on the Avs...

Avatar
#13 subz
April 29 2013, 06:33PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@Scary Gary

Fla to get Makinnon/ druin, to join huberdeau . imo all teams in the top 10 of the lottery have more talent than us.

This is a good start for the rebuild.

Avatar
#14 dotfras
April 29 2013, 06:33PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Happy we didn't fall lower than 6th. I guess it's time to start guessing who teams will take...

1. Jones COL 2. Mackinnon FLA 3. Drouin CAR 4. Barkov TB 5. ? NSH 6. Lindholm or Monahan CAL 7. I know Edmonton really wants Monahan........

Avatar
#15 Brent G.
April 29 2013, 06:44PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

So here's a complete hypothetical situation...

If you could trade our 1st and Pitts 1st to TB for their first and have to take on Lecavalier, do you do it? TB is in an unenviable cap position that would be quickly rectified if they could find a trading partner for that albatross. I think to get Barkov I would do it...

Avatar
#16 BurningSensation
April 29 2013, 06:46PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Brent G. wrote:

So here's a complete hypothetical situation...

If you could trade our 1st and Pitts 1st to TB for their first and have to take on Lecavalier, do you do it? TB is in an unenviable cap position that would be quickly rectified if they could find a trading partner for that albatross. I think to get Barkov I would do it...

It's a bit of pill to swallow having to give up a 2nd 1st AND take Lecavalier's stinjer of a contract, but it would kill two birds with one stone;

- Big 2 way pivot who can contribute right now (Lecavalier)

- Big 2 way pivot who can develop into a true #1 (Barkov)

I'd do it.

Avatar
#17 FireOnIce
April 29 2013, 06:52PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Brent G. wrote:

So here's a complete hypothetical situation...

If you could trade our 1st and Pitts 1st to TB for their first and have to take on Lecavalier, do you do it? TB is in an unenviable cap position that would be quickly rectified if they could find a trading partner for that albatross. I think to get Barkov I would do it...

That accounts for 2 of our 1st rounders. How does Feaster turn that third 1st rounder of ours into Ryan Miller?

/sarcasm

I'm surprised Feaster was that candid. Knowing that he's lied to basically everybody before, how much of what he says do we trust? He's probably already had discussions with Darcy Regier on how to obtain Ryan Miller at the draft ("internal goalie discussion").

Bummed we didn't win the lottery, but after playing piss-poor all season, the 5-game win streak should've told us a story (Flames luck is next to zero). Expect nothing good when you're a fan of this franchise.

I like trading up to get someone, but wouldn't mind Monahan or Lindholm. NO. FU**ING. GOALIES.

Avatar
#18 mattyc
April 29 2013, 06:52PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@Brent G.

Not sure Barkov would drop to 5...

Avatar
#19 JaromeLoob1989
April 29 2013, 06:57PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Mckinnon would've been great Barkov too but did you guys watch Lindholm a the world juniors? This guy is good!!! You tube his highlights and you'll see that he might be just as effective as the other 2 guys but evn better defensively. I really hope we pick him so him and Backlund can fill the top 2 centre roles in Ctown

Avatar
#20 clyde
April 29 2013, 06:58PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Brent G. wrote:

So here's a complete hypothetical situation...

If you could trade our 1st and Pitts 1st to TB for their first and have to take on Lecavalier, do you do it? TB is in an unenviable cap position that would be quickly rectified if they could find a trading partner for that albatross. I think to get Barkov I would do it...

Cammy, Stl 1st for the above and we eat the last year of his contract. TB given flexibility and do not lose production.

Avatar
#21 Captain Ron
April 29 2013, 07:01PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Brent G. wrote:

So here's a complete hypothetical situation...

If you could trade our 1st and Pitts 1st to TB for their first and have to take on Lecavalier, do you do it? TB is in an unenviable cap position that would be quickly rectified if they could find a trading partner for that albatross. I think to get Barkov I would do it...

Why would we give them our 6th and possibly 30th pick and then take Lecavalier's albatross contract from them?

Isn't swapping our 6th enough for their 4th and taking Vinny off their hands? Hell I'd even ask them for another pick or player on top of that. If they want to move him their options are going to be few if any to do it and they will have to sweeten the pot to get someone to play ball. They need us more than we need them in this scenario.

No way do I give them what amounts to a late first for Vinnie boy and bail them out of that awful contract.

Avatar
#22 Austin
April 29 2013, 07:05PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

This definately leaves Tampa Bay the possibility of trading down. I think we would be a prime candidate seeing as Feaster is constantly re-iterating the elite talent in the top 4. It's entirely possible one of the talents he is referring to is Nichuskin. A bit risky for the future of our franchise. I have to think that our two bottom first round picks combined with Stempniak would be quite promising for the #3 pick. Thoughts?

If not I say we go for Lindholm I suppose, I think we have to take a forward with this pick, I just hope we don't go really off the board and take somebody like Jankowski. At least we're not trying to trade down this year. With our last two picks go for at least one defenseman. Looking at the past several drafts I've been surprised how many top-talents have come in the mid-late first round. I just hope we don't mess things up.

Avatar
#23 ChinookArch
April 29 2013, 07:07PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Lecavalier could be the definition of a salary dump. Tampa would have to give me their 1st and 2nd in 2013, for me to even consider taking that on. It would cost the Flames $30M over 14 years to buy that out.

Avatar
#24 Derzie
April 29 2013, 07:10PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Forwards (Round 1) Sean Monahan, Max Domi, Hunter Shinkaruk, Anthony Mantha, Adam Erne, Frederik Gauthier, Morgan Klimchuk

Defense (After Round 1) Nikita Zadorov Madison Bowey

Avatar
#25 Danglesnipecelly
April 29 2013, 07:16PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Brent G. wrote:

So here's a complete hypothetical situation...

If you could trade our 1st and Pitts 1st to TB for their first and have to take on Lecavalier, do you do it? TB is in an unenviable cap position that would be quickly rectified if they could find a trading partner for that albatross. I think to get Barkov I would do it...

Two firsts and we have to take on Vinnie's contract just to move up two spots!? Jesus no....

Avatar
#26 Captain Ron
April 29 2013, 07:19PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
ChinookArch wrote:

Lecavalier could be the definition of a salary dump. Tampa would have to give me their 1st and 2nd in 2013, for me to even consider taking that on. It would cost the Flames $30M over 14 years to buy that out.

Exactly and the more I thought about it the less appealing it became. Any team who takes that contract on is doing TB a HUGE favor in the process. They would have to pay me A LOT to do it.

Avatar
#27 Glenn
April 29 2013, 07:23PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
JaromeLoob1989 wrote:

Mckinnon would've been great Barkov too but did you guys watch Lindholm a the world juniors? This guy is good!!! You tube his highlights and you'll see that he might be just as effective as the other 2 guys but evn better defensively. I really hope we pick him so him and Backlund can fill the top 2 centre roles in Ctown

I like Lindholm too Jarome. Do you know if he speaks English? That would really help when he gets here. Monahan could work out too.

Avatar
#28 Captain Ron
April 29 2013, 07:23PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
1
props
BurningSensation wrote:

It's a bit of pill to swallow having to give up a 2nd 1st AND take Lecavalier's stinjer of a contract, but it would kill two birds with one stone;

- Big 2 way pivot who can contribute right now (Lecavalier)

- Big 2 way pivot who can develop into a true #1 (Barkov)

I'd do it.

I hope your kidding us.

7.7 mill cap hit for 3 years and 30 million dollars for Vinnie and he`s washed up. And then give them 2 firsts on top of that.

Please tell me your not serious.

Avatar
#29 clyde
April 29 2013, 07:29PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
1
props

If we could move up to 3 and keep our 6 while doing a compliance buyout on Vinnie would quite possibly pay for itself. Drouin plus Lindholm could help lead to some future playoff dates.

Avatar
#30 Rockmorton65
April 29 2013, 07:31PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

I don't know how I feel about THIS idea; Vinnie, 4th overall, 2nd rounder for the StL pick. Is it worth it?

Avatar
#31 Glenn
April 29 2013, 07:31PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

I can't believe Murray Edwards would take on that contract!

Avatar
#32 JaromeLoob1989
April 29 2013, 07:34PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@Glenn

Yes it's mandatory in Sweden to take English in school. Not sure how good his English is but he definitely has a base

Avatar
#33 subz
April 29 2013, 07:37PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@clyde

I definitely like the idea, not sure if tb goes for it, couldn't TB buy out vinny themselves ? instead of giving up a franchise player

I'm wondering if we could snag frederik Gauthier with our second first ? would be a nice one two punch with our 6th pick.

Avatar
#34 clyde
April 29 2013, 07:39PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

I would be ecstatic with Lindholm and a trade up for Ristolainen. I really like the young Swede and he is always around the puck, in dirty areas and skates very well. I wonder if he will be there at 6.

Avatar
#35 Kent Wilson
April 29 2013, 07:41PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Every Swede I have ever met personally speaks pretty good English.

Avatar
#36 clyde
April 29 2013, 07:42PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
subz wrote:

I definitely like the idea, not sure if tb goes for it, couldn't TB buy out vinny themselves ? instead of giving up a franchise player

I'm wondering if we could snag frederik Gauthier with our second first ? would be a nice one two punch with our 6th pick.

They could but may want to save money and use the flexibility to sign a younger top free agent in order to try and compete before St. Louis is done. If we had thrown in Cammy and paid, they would be in a position where their team would improve a great deal. I know it is a little Outside the Box thinking but you never know.

Avatar
#37 Greg S
April 29 2013, 07:43PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Would it be possible to add Lecavalier in a salary dump scenario, in order to get a higher draft pick, and then use a compliance buyout on Lecavaliers contract?

Avatar
#38 subz
April 29 2013, 07:49PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@clyde

I would be over the moon, Ownership has shown a reluctance to eat salary in the past, but things are changing around here so here's hoping we use this asset to our advantage.

Avatar
#39 ChinookArch
April 29 2013, 07:52PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Greg S wrote:

Would it be possible to add Lecavalier in a salary dump scenario, in order to get a higher draft pick, and then use a compliance buyout on Lecavaliers contract?

That's exactly the scenario I'd consider. I've posted this strategy a couple times already (most recently in RexLibris article), but I think the Flames should consider using it on a bonified RFA instead of a a pick.

Avatar
#40 Glenn
April 29 2013, 07:57PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Here's a link to a piece on Lidholm if anyone is interested.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sweden-s-elias-lindholm-earns-peter-forsberg-comparisons-and-top-billing-for-2013-nhl-draft-184824712.html

Not sure how I fee about this part though.

"Hockey came naturally to Lindholm when he first started playing as a youngster. His father, Mikael Lindholm, was a 12th round pick of the Los Angeles Kings in 1987 and played 18 games with the Kings before returning to Sweden where he had a lengthy career in the Swedish Elite League."

He is asked about the draft though, and he says " it's hard NOT to think about it."

Avatar
#41 Veggie Dog
April 29 2013, 08:25PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

I mentioned Lecavalier and possible wiggling due to TB's cap situation a few weeks ago. It was almost universally pooed on at the time.

Avatar
#42 thymebalm
April 29 2013, 08:31PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

We are getting one of Barkov, Nurse, Monahan, NicHushkin, Shinkaruk, or Lindholm at #6. We are NOT getting one of Jones, McKinnon, or Drouin.

Let's see the write ups. At this point I think I want Nurse/Monahan equally.

Avatar
#43 Bean-counting cowboy
April 29 2013, 08:44PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Why wouldnt Tampa just buy out lecalvier themselves?

Avatar
#44 Kent Wilson
April 29 2013, 08:46PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

@Bean-counting cowboy

The owner isn't quite that well heeled.

Avatar
#45 MC Hockey
April 29 2013, 09:06PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Greg S wrote:

Would it be possible to add Lecavalier in a salary dump scenario, in order to get a higher draft pick, and then use a compliance buyout on Lecavaliers contract?

Umm no! Calgary owners not going to waste that kind of money! Just keep the 6 pick to get Monahan or Lindholm and sign Ribiero at $6m per year for 5 years... A slightly less risky and less costly move for a 33 year old centre who is better but weirder than Vinny!

Avatar
#46 clYDE
April 29 2013, 09:15PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
Kent Wilson wrote:

The owner isn't quite that well heeled.

It would take a bit of a "gulp" on the short term by Edwards trusting that in the long term the Flames would become contenders based on this forward thinking and therefore, make his money back and help the Flames strike while they have unique opportunity. It will take some balls to become an elite team/organization. Is Edwards truly willing to do this?

Avatar
#47 Kurt
April 29 2013, 09:17PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

This trading up talk is crazy talk.... I mean I'd love it too, but I'd also like it to be plus 30 on the weekend so I can hit the beach.

Just think about how painful this season was. Now think of another team going through that same pain, and then trading away the only good thing that came from it. For Stepniak? BAHAHAH. Or for late 1st round picks that are essentially 2nd picks that are essentially spins on the roulette wheel.

Now if Edmonton was in the top 4 MAYBE they would consider trading down because they already have too many young prospects and need NHL ready players. Hoping any team above us trades down is just crazy talk. We simply do not have the assets to get it done...

Unless you want to trade Backlund or Baertschi, which defeats the purpose.

Sucks, but those wins down the stretch really screwed us. in a way in could be a blessing because mgmt will take a deep breath and not try to blow the future and make the playoffs next year. This team needs at least 1 more year wandering in the desert and grabbing another top 5 pick.

Avatar
#48 dotfras
April 29 2013, 09:26PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props

Apparently Edmonton REALLY wants Monahan. IF and only IF Lindholm is still available at #6, do we swap picks + Edmonton add something so they can nab their guy and take Lindholm at 7?

Avatar
#49 Kurt
April 29 2013, 09:29PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
dotfras wrote:

Apparently Edmonton REALLY wants Monahan. IF and only IF Lindholm is still available at #6, do we swap picks + Edmonton add something so they can nab their guy and take Lindholm at 7?

If that situation presents itself I'd do it. But I read today that MacTavish said he wants to trade down because they want NHL ready players not more prospects. I highly doubt they'd trade up.

Avatar
#50 clYDE
April 29 2013, 09:31PM
Trash it!
0
trashes
Props
0
props
dotfras wrote:

Apparently Edmonton REALLY wants Monahan. IF and only IF Lindholm is still available at #6, do we swap picks + Edmonton add something so they can nab their guy and take Lindholm at 7?

Good thought but only if we are sure we get Lindholme. Monahan is a very good prospect but Lindholme could be the gem of this very strong draft imo.

Comments are closed for this article.