2013 FN Trade Deadline Open Thread

Kent Wilson
April 03 2013 08:22AM

 

 

We'll be on top of things all day and will detail any significant Flames news as it happens. Otherwise, minor updates and thoughts will be shared here.

More as it happens...

Thoughts and News

- I haven't really weighed in on the Jay Bouwmeester deal yet. The more I let it sink in, the more I dislike the move. The two pieces from St. Louis are exceptionally marginal - essentially replacement level bits. It would be like the Flames trading Chris Breen and Joni Ortio (except Ortio probably has more upside than Berra).

I understand the team wants to add first rounders for what is supposed to be a very good draft, but Feaster didn't even get that as a firm piece. The Blues are tottering on the edge of the playoff bubble and if things go wrong the pick slides to 2014 - essentially destroying the lone reason for rushing to trade Bouwmeester now.

As I've said more than once in this space, there's no impetus to simply sell the farm right away. The Iginla return was unfortunately limited by circumstance, but the Bouwmeester return didn't have to be. He was signed for another year, so Feaster had an additional 10 or so months to explore the market for JayBo and maximize the return.

In short - if the blues package was the best Feaster could get at the time, I think he should have played hardball and waited.

- Alex Burmistrov's name is still being mentioned a lot as a guy the Jets may be willing to deal. I'd like Calgary to make a call and at least see what the Jets are asking for. There may be a match since WPG wants scoring and the Flames have guys like Cammalleri and even Cervenka they can market.

- I am hoping the Flames can manage to move Kipper to Toronto today, but if he does move it will be an ignominious end to what was an excellent tenure here in town: allowing 3 goals on six shots to the Oilers, including a one-handed backhander from behind the red line to Ryan Jones. Of course, when an organization rides its stars into the ground, that's the risk you run.

- TSN reporting that Kipper has opted to stay in Calgary and then retire. Oh well.

UPDATE - the big deals are starting to trickle in now:

- Marian Gaborik to the Columbus Blue Jackets for Brassard, Dorsett and John Moore. Dorsett is a decent grinder option, Brassard is terrible and John Moore is a decent defensive prospect. I like that deal for Columbus because Gaborik's lackluster numbers this year are luck, not talent, based.

- Jason Pominville traded to the Wild for Larsson and Hackett. Pominville is a really good addition for the Wild as they search for the playoffs. He can play gainst other top-6 players in tough circumstancea and survive, which is a big need on Minny.

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#52 dotfras
April 03 2013, 11:33AM
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Tanguay or Glencross would fit nicely on NJ's second line.

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#53 Kevin R
April 03 2013, 11:34AM
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suba steve wrote:

His actions are HUMAN. If the Flames had made efforts to trade him last summer and he had balked, then maybe you could play the selfish card. In what is probably the last month of his career, please cut him a little slack. He and his wife have a gradeschooler and a newborn at home, and he likes it here. Judging from trade returns recently, what does he bring in, a second or a third rounder? BFD.

Thanks Kipper, you've been a pleasure to watch.

Here heremy friend!!! Kipper has been a delight to watch the last 9 years & brought us out of darkness back in 2004. I have been saying for the past month that he does not look 100% healthy, he really struggles getting up when he goes down to make saves. I truly truly believe he is one of the casualties of this lockout. He didnt condition himself like he normally does & it resulted in an injury early. Lots of pressure for him to come back & keep the playoff train going & keep his buddy Iggy in Calgary. Right now, the man probably just wants to retire, mentally & physically. But he'll be 37 years old & that is not over the hill for an elite goalie. By July, his personal situation is settled, physically he will be feeling 100%, if he has any fire left in him, I see him coming back. This is no way for a goalie like Kipper to leave the game. I for one would have no issue seeing a healthy, conditioned Kipper coming back next year with a mission to prove many wrong, let Ramos or Berra duke it out to play 30+ games behind him.

Kent, the only thing about the JBO trade, which was pointed out on the panels, is that any player with a high cap hit next year is not getting returns you would expect. If Kipper retires, we can really parlay our cap space into returns that will make these deals a little palatable. Word on a Detroit thread was that the Wings were not prepared to put their 2013 1st on the table for JBO. Quite a weird landscape with the cap dropping so dramatically, even the Oilers are going to have to manuevre to be cap complient for next year.

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#55 dotfras
April 03 2013, 11:48AM
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Apparently Burmistrov is a guy Winnepeg is willing to consider moving.

For a 21 year old, his numbers look pretty decent.

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#56 the-wolf
April 03 2013, 11:49AM
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One rumor I heard on the Fan today was Feaster is interested in acquiring Bishop from Ottawa.

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#58 Kevin R
April 03 2013, 11:52AM
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the-wolf wrote:

One rumor I heard on the Fan today was Feaster is interested in acquiring Bishop from Ottawa.

It will cost us one of our 1st's, why do that when we need to reload this year & next. This is when I want to drive down to the Dome & slap Feaster several times on that brushcut of his.

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#60 T&A4Flames
April 03 2013, 12:03PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Yeah I mentioned him in the article.

I get the feeling the Flames are pretty much done, but I guess we'll see.

If they're done, then add that to the list of failures. I guess they have the summer as well, but still, I would rather have seen it done by today.

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#61 Lordmork
April 03 2013, 12:12PM
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I heard the Hurricanes will retain some of Jokinen's salary, too.

I worry the Flames are totally focused on drafting the next big star instead of picking up players who can make the team better.

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#63 the-wolf
April 03 2013, 12:36PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Ben Bishop goes to TBL. Good move for the Lightning.

Excellent move. Goaltending has been holding them back.

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#65 dotfras
April 03 2013, 12:43PM
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@Kent Wilson

Burmistrov would be a smart move for the Flames if Winnepeg was looking to add a scorer like Tang, Camm, or GlenX.....even Stempniak.

I'd love to see a move like that who would give the roster an injection of young talent.

We've stocked the cupboard a bit but the proverbial 'table' is bare.

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#66 Bean-counting cowboy
April 03 2013, 12:45PM
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Excellent move. Goaltending has been holding them back.

Good move for Ottawa. Conacher has been great for Tampa

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#69 dotfras
April 03 2013, 01:05PM
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Brassard & Dorsett apart of return for Gaborik.

Talk about NYR upping their grit.

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#71 dotfras
April 03 2013, 01:20PM
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Comeau for a 5th.

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#72 schevvy
April 03 2013, 01:20PM
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Hey Comeau got something!

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#74 danglesnipecelly
April 03 2013, 01:21PM
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See ya Comeau.... 5th round pick, YES!

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#75 the-wolf
April 03 2013, 01:21PM
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Comeau for a 5th.

Hartley's favorite player?!

Good.

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#76 ChinookArch
April 03 2013, 01:26PM
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@Kent Wilson

Yeah baby! Nothing for something - we win!

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#77 the forgotten man
April 03 2013, 01:28PM
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dotfras wrote:

Comeau for a 5th.

Feaster...all is forgiven.

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#78 BitGeek
April 03 2013, 01:47PM
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Comeau for a 5th? huh.. that much hey?

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#81 Scoring_guru
April 03 2013, 02:02PM
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I really thought we would have dumped Sarich or Babchuck.

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#83 mk
April 03 2013, 02:39PM
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Apparently a Flames presser coming in a few minutes; what is this about? Why the only move was to eject Comeau?

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#84 fretsey
April 03 2013, 05:17PM
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Kipper IS honoring his contract. He signed it with the blessing of everyone involved (allegedly) that he was not going to play the final year.....soooo... I have no problem with Kippers actions

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