FGD: An Exciting Local Experiment

Vintage Flame
April 06 2013 06:40PM

 

There are bound to be plenty of nights in the remaining twelve games where the outcome is not of any significance or have any bearing on anything other than where the Flames will draft on June 30th in New Jersey. Tonight however, is not one one of those nights.

It may have been a short flight from San Jose to Vancouver, but the team had a lot to think about. Despite the loss to the Sharks, there were a great deal of positives to come out of last night's game.

The team was able to come together and play as a cohesive unit for pretty much the entire game. That's saying a lot since this season it has been a rarity and given the game they had prior to last night was nothing short of an abomination, it was nice to see the boys rise to the challenge.

Tonight, they are going to have to have the same attitude and the same tenacity they showed last night. It may be asking a lot since they are on the second night of a back to back, but tonight is another game against a bitter rival. If they blow this one, then last night will have been all for not, and they will be right back where they were just three nights ago.

The Line-Up

We all know our boys are going into this one tonight out-gunned and over-whelmed, so there is no need to beat that dead horse. It's going to be a tough night for whatever line is put out against Hank and Dank, and most likely it is going to a task that is floated through all the lines at some point.

That being said, we are in for a few changes.

  • Glencross - Backlund - Cervenka
  • Tanguay - Stajan - Stempniak
  • Cammalleri - Horak - Hudler
  • McGratten - Begin - Jackman
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  • Giordano - Wideman
  • Brodie - Butler
  • Sarich - Carson
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  • Kiprusoff

Curtis Glencross is going to be a game time decision. As a result, last night the Flames recalled F Max Reinhart (aka Max Power). Reinhart will make his NHL debut in his home town in front of his Dad, Paul Reinhart. Quite a proud moment for Dad watching his son play in his first game, a game that features both teams he played with back in his day.

Reinhart is not being brought up as a "what-if" Glencross can't go tonight. If Curtis is out, then Reinhart will slot in there, but if GlenX is a go, someone else will come out of the lineup.

Miikka Kiprusoff, despite playing last night and facing 41 shots, will man the Flames crease again tonight. Kiprusoff had one of his best games of the year last night and was the leader in that team attitude factor that kept the Flames not only in the game, but close to stealing it.

The Opposition

Even though the Canucks are without Ryan Kesler still, they do get some relief as Mason Raymond and Dale Weise return to the lineup. In the past, I would have been very optimistic about Kesler not being dressed for the game, it would have been even better knowing David Booth will also miss action tonight, but in the grand scheme of things, their absence will not be missed.

  • D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Burrows
  • Higgins - Roy - Hansen
  • Kassian - Lapierre - Raymond
  • Weise - Ebbett - Sestito

  • Hamhuis - Garrison
  • Bieksa - Edler
  • Tanev - Barker

  • Schneider

This will be the first time the Flames face Derek Roy as a member of the Canucks, so like I said, the fact that Kesler isn't in the lineup is no big advantage for Calgary.

Sum it Up

The big attraction for me in this game is the call up of Max Reinhart. It's going to be exciting to see what this kid can do at the NHL level.

No one should be expecting miracles or to see him single handidly keep both Hank and Dank off the score-sheet. It's his first NHL game, and he's playing it in his home town. Let's take it for what it's worth and hopefully just enjoy seeing the kid have a whole lot of fun.

Some may wonder why Reinhart and not Baertschi. I think the Flames know what they have in Sven, they don't need to see anymore, especially not in a quasi-toxic environment. They have nothing to lose now, even though the official magic number is six. Why not see what some of these other kids have got. I have no doubt Chris Breen would also be up here instead of having to play Babchuk, but he has a season ending injury, so we're stuck with the Crouton Anton, for a while longer.

Let's call tonight what it is... The Flames engaging in an experiment with one of their prospects that has a little local connection.

Game time is 8:00 pm on CBC or the Fan 960.

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Vintage Flame is a Calgary based sports junkie that prefers to call hockey a "religion" rather than an addiction. He believes there are two types of hockey fans. Those who cheer for the Flames, and those who don't understand the sport yet. Follow Vintage_Flame on Twitter
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#51 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 09:53PM
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Reinhart with a nice shift there.

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#52 365
April 06 2013, 09:55PM
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Why Reinhart? Why not Baertschi?

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#53 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
April 06 2013, 09:56PM
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Kent, regarding Reinhart, ppl down here have told me he has really improved over the season. The points have started accumulating, and he has been handling some of the toughest minutes in Abby. It would be nice if you could get Ryan from the HEat to give us an update on him and other prospects.

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#54 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 09:56PM
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@365

They want to see where Reinhart is at I imagine. They already saw Baertschi long enough to know he's not there.

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#55 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 09:57PM
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@If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin

Ryan can't comment anymore, unfortunately.

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#56 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
April 06 2013, 09:58PM
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@365

Baertchi has put up some points on the PP during his return to Abby, but his 5on5 play hasn`t been as great. He was minus 3 last night. Reinhart is minus-23 on the season, but has played in extremely tough circumstances.

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#57 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
April 06 2013, 10:02PM
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@Kent Wilson

Oh, that sucks. Does that stem from the same issue that prohibits Steinberg from commenting?

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#58 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 10:05PM
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Jesus Kipper. Get out of the net.

Yeah losing is the right thing, but man it still sucks.

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#59 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 10:06PM
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@If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin

No, different issue.

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#60 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
April 06 2013, 10:06PM
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Good show by the Flames, but superior firepower of the Canucks starting to shine through.

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#61 365
April 06 2013, 10:07PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Jesus Kipper. Get out of the net.

Yeah losing is the right thing, but man it still sucks.

That's just it; at the end of the year, he's running out of there, not walking.

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#62 365
April 06 2013, 10:11PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

They want to see where Reinhart is at I imagine. They already saw Baertschi long enough to know he's not there.

That's just it - why not have them both? Let the young guys all out at this point. See what they're capable of without the unreal expectations and see what chemistry can develop.

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#63 365
April 06 2013, 10:12PM
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(sorry for a little repetition - combination of too many scripts and too much Scotch)

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#64 the forgotten man
April 06 2013, 10:14PM
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If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin wrote:

Baertchi has put up some points on the PP during his return to Abby, but his 5on5 play hasn`t been as great. He was minus 3 last night. Reinhart is minus-23 on the season, but has played in extremely tough circumstances.

Should we be worried about Baertschi...I really hope he is able to crank it up a notch next year...we need him

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#66 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 10:30PM
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Wow. Flames should have 5 at least tonight. Can't buy one.

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#67 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
April 06 2013, 10:32PM
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@Vintage Flame

Exactly. Ppl don`t understand that jumping to pro is a big step, but Baertchi has all the tools. And remember, he is still the most dangerous weapon on the ice for the HEat at any given time. His defensive game needs a little help, but there is no denying the offensive potential. He will round into a fine top-6 difference maker in a couple of years.

The kid`s drive to improve is palpable.

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#69 the forgotten man
April 06 2013, 10:40PM
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If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin wrote:

Exactly. Ppl don`t understand that jumping to pro is a big step, but Baertchi has all the tools. And remember, he is still the most dangerous weapon on the ice for the HEat at any given time. His defensive game needs a little help, but there is no denying the offensive potential. He will round into a fine top-6 difference maker in a couple of years.

The kid`s drive to improve is palpable.

Sounds good...I am excited for our young talent coming up.

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#70 Q
April 06 2013, 10:40PM
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What has happened to Carolina!? I don't feel so bad about our sad sack team!

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#71 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 10:41PM
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@Q

Goaltending in the toilet.

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#72 Q
April 06 2013, 10:41PM
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I'd take Sutter over Jordan steal any day!

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#73 Q
April 06 2013, 10:44PM
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@Kent Wilson

Unreal they invested 35 mill in semin! I still am surprised Colorado and Florida are worse then flames! Comparing their schedules to ours we maybe get 3 points and finish last. What do you think kent?

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#74 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 10:45PM
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Tanguay continues to get - and score on - break aways.

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#75 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 10:46PM
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@Q

I think it's very possible.

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#76 Q
April 06 2013, 10:48PM
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Hey kent, any way we buy tanguay out this summer? His contract is aweful! Moines gonna take that hit! He is such a duller! Always has been! I remember when Keenan was here, tanguay sulked constantly! This is really refreshing seeing the youth play!

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#77 Q
April 06 2013, 10:49PM
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@Q

Darn spell check! I meant, nobody takes that contract!

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#78 365
April 06 2013, 10:50PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Tanguay continues to get - and score on - break aways.

Wonder if he's thinking back of seasons gone by with the likes of Sakic, Hejduk, and Forsberg?

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#79 Q
April 06 2013, 10:51PM
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Wow, major spellcheck meltdown! I meant tangs is a sulker!

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#81 Q
April 06 2013, 10:57PM
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I'm looking forward to seeing Bouma back next yr. I thought he had the potential to be a Prust eventually for us. Love that Brodie is getting loads of time! It's all about the young kids now! Don't wanna see anyone but Gio Glenn x and wides as far as the old guys go! Youth city!

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#82 mattyc
April 06 2013, 10:57PM
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@Q

Tanguay's cap-hit is 3.5 million - i think that's actually a really good number. I also think he's one of our best forwards. I'm not sure why we'd buy him out for nothing. If he was sulking, and wanted out, I don't think they'd have too much trouble finding someone to trade him to.

Unrelated, but i think this game is a useful case-study/microcosm of how inferior goaltending just cuts your legs out from under you.

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#83 Q
April 06 2013, 10:58PM
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Include hudler too

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#84 Q
April 06 2013, 11:00PM
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@mattyc

No doubt, very talented but I question his motivation. He's older now and 3 yrs too many left.

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#86 Q
April 06 2013, 11:03PM
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@mattyc

I guess we have a ton of cap space so tanguays not an issue but I can't agree many teams would want him.

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#87 Kent Wilson
April 06 2013, 11:03PM
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Chances were 9-1 Flames in the third.

Im okay with this sort of loss. Flames the much better team.

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#88 Q
April 06 2013, 11:05PM
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Tic-tic-tic oh so close to lottery time!

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#89 Q
April 06 2013, 11:07PM
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I agree kent. Just an audition for the kids! It's great. So much better than watching old men lose!

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#90 RKD
April 06 2013, 11:09PM
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13th straight road losses! Still far away from the record Ottawa lost 38 straight road games back in the 1992-93 season.

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#91 Captain Ron
April 06 2013, 11:13PM
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Good showing by the Flames tonight. A little luck and a little finish they are in this one all the way. I think there is a lesson here with the young guys.

Watching TJ has me pretty excited about his future. He gives it away every now and then but that should decrease with time.

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#92 mattyc
April 06 2013, 11:16PM
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so... what is Brodie's new contract going to look like for next year?

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#93 Captain Ron
April 06 2013, 11:23PM
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mattyc wrote:

so... what is Brodie's new contract going to look like for next year?

Good question. He's getting a big raise that's for sure.

Can he reach Seabrook or Keith status when he peaks or is that the beer talking right now.

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#94 chillout
April 06 2013, 11:24PM
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I don't see the ripping on kipper tonight. 3 of the 4 goals he had no chance at all. going off a toe, odd man rush, the only one I was upset at was the burrows goal.

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#95 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
April 06 2013, 11:47PM
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Yeah, can`t lay this one on Kipper. Nucks made their chances count.

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#96 negrilcowboy
April 07 2013, 12:02AM
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post apex organization. fire everyone from murray on down

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#97 FireOnIce
April 07 2013, 01:09AM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

post apex organization. fire everyone from murray on down

Need to make sure the 'Dome gets burned down as well, and all the players summarily executed. Full rebuild from the ground up, right?

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#98 Double Dion
April 07 2013, 03:23AM
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If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin wrote:

Yeah, can`t lay this one on Kipper. Nucks made their chances count.

Yes you can, we'd be better off strapping a shooter tutor to the pipes at this point. The guy is a a pylon. Worst starter in the league. We missed the boat, should have traded him last year. Schneider made saves, like a goalie is supposed to. With Kipper, you just hope he doesn't deflect any shots that are going wide in. I don't think the team is any worse than last year, just much worse goaltending.

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#99 chillout
April 07 2013, 11:23AM
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Double Dion wrote:

Yes you can, we'd be better off strapping a shooter tutor to the pipes at this point. The guy is a a pylon. Worst starter in the league. We missed the boat, should have traded him last year. Schneider made saves, like a goalie is supposed to. With Kipper, you just hope he doesn't deflect any shots that are going wide in. I don't think the team is any worse than last year, just much worse goaltending.

obviously didn't watch the game

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#100 Double Dion
April 08 2013, 03:15AM
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chillout wrote:

obviously didn't watch the game

Right, sorry he was awesome. He's been awesome all year long. 4 goals on 21 shots. Stellar. They had 8 scoring chances and he managed to stop 4 of them. Super goaltending, really glad you watched the game and corrected my glaring mistake.

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