Flames Top 15 Prospects 2013: #7 Mark Cundari

Justin Azevedo
June 12 2013 02:58PM

 

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We don’t know much about Mark Cundari.

Hell, I’d bet the first time most of us had ever heard of him was when he was traded for Jay Bouwmeester - but that lack of familiarity hasn’t affected him negatively in the Flames’ prospect pantheon.

As a member of that dominant Windsor Spitfires team from a few years back, Cundari scored at a pretty healthy rate for defensemen: 131 points over his 248 OHL games, or about .53 PPG (NHLE of about 13). He went undrafted, likely as a result of his size (5’8, 180 at the time) but signed with the St. Louis Blues about a month after the 2009 draft.

Over the last three years with the Peoria Rivermen and the Heat, Cundari upped his NHLE to about 16 - and while not a huge jump, an improvement nonetheless. He led the Rivermen in scoring last year from the blueline with 7 goals and 25 points in 57 games and was voted an AHL all-star. I assume it’s because of his size that he’s seen as a offensive defenseman, but I think he plays with a little more emphasis on his defensive game than is thought to be the case.

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Cundari’s stature is interesting: as a defenseman, one would expect that to be able to effectively play the body and position oneself in front of the net at the NHL level he’d need to be a little taller than 5’9 - and while in most situations that may well be true, Cundari tips the scales at 200 pounds, leading me to think his strength is more than enough to get him by in the NHL. I don’t believe his injury risk is abnormally higher as a result of his height.

On the positive side, I do like the way Cundari skates: his strides aren’t choppy and his upper body seems to be relatively static when he has the puck. He also seems patient when he’s in position for a pass or a defensive play. According to Hockey’s Future, though, he could improve his overall game by improving and tweaking his decision making when he has the puck. He definitely has some tools, but being as he’s just turned 23 it’s possible the development time for those tools has already passed.

Conclusion

It’s hard to make any concrete pronouncements about Cundari’s NHL worthiness at this point for a multitude of reasons, but I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t on the Flames opening day roster next year. It is unknown at this point if Cundari’s ceiling is as a 6th or a 4th defenseman - that’s something that should be come clearer the more he plays and the more we watch.

While I wasn’t a fan of the return for Jay Bouwmeester, Cundari is likely going to be a legit NHLer and that’s better than nothing. Maybe with a bunch of PP time he can crack 20 points next year.

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Justin is a 22-year-old Flames fan who also happens to be pursuing a double major at the University of Calgary. He has played hockey at high levels, enjoys wearing shorts and tends to drink far too much Grasshopper. Please don't hate him.
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#1 shutout
June 12 2013, 03:06PM
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The fact that he will probably be in the NHL next year puts him above the two goalies that right now are showing more potential and promise with a high degree of risk.

Liked Cundari's game when he came up the end of last year, and while season ending auditions are not the best way to necessarily best way to evaluate prospects right now I would pencil him in at the number four spot next to Wideman before I would place either Butler or Smith in that spot.

If Berra can turn into a backup goaltender that can play 30 games and win 18 of them and Cundari can provide even half the offense he showed in his call up and provide puck movement and steady defense on the second pairing than the Blues trade looks like it might be okay. Not the best trade the Flames could have made, but it will be okay.

Best case scenario is that Cundari continues to develop and is basically a Giordano with more offense and less physicality and grit.

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#2 shutout
June 12 2013, 03:11PM
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Not to keep rehashing the past and the deadline trades, but for general interest sake. I would love to see where the FN panel would have ranked Alexander Khokhlachev in their prospects.

I think that Matt Bartkowski probably does not make the list but would be higher than Hanowski. Question is how much higher ranked would Khokhlachev be than Agostino?

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#3 Parallex
June 12 2013, 03:12PM
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Truth be told of the four guys we got at the deadline Cundari was the only one I'd ever heard of (a result of being part of that awesome Spitfires team).

I think he's a legitimate NHL'er hard to say what exactly his ceiling is given that in his cup of coffee he ranged from looking top 4 worthy down to AHL worthy... offhand I'd call him a bottom-pairing D now with middle-pairing potential when he has more experience.

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#4 Bikeit
June 12 2013, 03:14PM
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I see him more as an Andrew Ference type player and that is not bad. Still choked to this day when the Flames traded Ference. Hopefully Cundari will right that mistake.

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#5 Kent Wilson
June 12 2013, 03:20PM
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@shutout

I would have had Kokhlachev in the top 5.

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#6 icedawg_42
June 12 2013, 03:25PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

I would have had Kokhlachev in the top 5.

I remember he was one of those possible dark horse guys last draft. KHL 'scare' was all over him.

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#7 Jeff Lebowski
June 12 2013, 03:28PM
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With undersized guys or undrafted guys-for whatever perceived flaw (as long as they have legitimate NHL skills) the plus you get is attitude and/or work ethic.

The 'chip - on - the - shoulder' effect. You can see Cundari has that. The true test will be how he plays over a full season.

I think these underappreciated guys might just need a legitimate opportunity, where there aren't guys above him on a depth chart because of perception.

To use an NFL analogy- take a guy like Danny Amendola. I watched the hard knocks season where he was with the Cowboys. Any mistake he made was essentially his walking papers. They had bigger guys who would always be given the benefit of the doubt. Yada yada yada, Amendola got a legitimate shot with the Rams and now his value in the league is very high (witness his FA contract).

To be sure- if you are undersized you have to be rather exceptional in other areas. Did Cundari show something exceptional? What is he really good at? If he has that exceptional trait is it something Calgary is missing? I think Calgary's situation is ideal for him. Hopefully he runs with it.

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#9 piscera.infada
June 12 2013, 03:37PM
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@Jeff Lebowski

Just word of mouth, but I hear his shot is massive. We all witnessed that wrister in his first game, but I hear he has one hell of a clapper as well.

It seemed to me like he played bigger than he is too. Again, we'll need to see that over a full season, but I'm actually really excited about him.

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#10 Colin.S
June 12 2013, 03:53PM
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How did Ryan not have him Ranked? That's what I'm wondering, the kid is going to play in the NHL, whether it's in a 3/4 pairing or 5/6 pairing is yet to be seen. While Ryan has ranked guys that may never make the NHL at all. I'm curious to see his whole list.

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#11 BurningSensation
June 12 2013, 04:11PM
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Cundari has some nice tools in his toolkit, including a +shot.

I wouldn't bet against him having a nice pro career despite his size.

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#12 RexLibris
June 12 2013, 04:16PM
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Would M.A. Bergeron be a fair best-case comparison as a current NHL player?

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#13 TheBurnward
June 12 2013, 04:23PM
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Liked what we saw from him end of last season...needed to settle down a bit out there, but definitely has some game. Comparison wise, Torey Krug? But a little more solid?

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#14 SmellOfVictory
June 12 2013, 04:35PM
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RexLibris wrote:

Would M.A. Bergeron be a fair best-case comparison as a current NHL player?

MAB is kind of awful defensively. I don't think he's quite best case (Cundari would likely put up lower numbers but be more serviceable at ES).

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#15 Burnward
June 12 2013, 05:26PM
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Agreed.

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#16 negrilcowboy
June 12 2013, 05:44PM
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Feaster and Company need to go out and sign an asian defensman, what why he can hold a presser and inform flamesnation he has Bobby Oriental.

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#17 BurningSensation
June 12 2013, 05:53PM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

Feaster and Company need to go out and sign an asian defensman, what why he can hold a presser and inform flamesnation he has Bobby Oriental.

*golf clap*

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#18 schevvy
June 12 2013, 05:55PM
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Cundari played quite well with Brodie in the 4 games he played at the end. Has a great shot and seems to have poise (!) with the puck. He will hopefully end up as a top 4 d-man/2nd unit PP guy, which is a lot better than I thought after the J-Bo trade. How does Ryan not have him ranked? I definitely couldn't come up with 15 guys better than him.

Unrelated: Game 1 tonight. Who you guys got winning it all? I've got the Bruins in 6.

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#19 KetchupKid
June 12 2013, 05:59PM
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Bruins in 7 riveting games. Pretty excited for this match up.

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#20 clyde
June 12 2013, 06:53PM
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I would have him competing for a top 15 in the Flames prospect list but certainly lower than this. Hopefully we get some better prospects soon because this guy at 7 is scary. Was he even top 7 on the organizational depth chart for his position in St. Louis much less overall?

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#21 BJ
June 12 2013, 07:08PM
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Def a better option than smith or Butler

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#22 BJ
June 12 2013, 07:14PM
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@ jeff lebowski

agreed... we need to haveo openspots in our lineup for these guys to compete for... make them feel that they have a chance... no more jd watt or tim erixon situations

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#23 Kent Wilson
June 13 2013, 08:23AM
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@RexLibris

No. Probably more like Andrew Ference.

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#24 piscera.infada
June 13 2013, 11:23AM
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Did anyone hear Cundari's interview on The Fan yesterday?

He sounds like a professional. I also found his description of what his role is going forward apt. "They want that in your face nastiness, and to be solid defensively. [To] use [my] explosiveness to be a momentum changer."

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#25 TheRealPoc
June 13 2013, 12:18PM
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Every time I saw him play last year, I thought his skating looked horribly inefficient. As if he's trying to take 2 strides to do the same work of the average NHLer's 1. Part of that might be due to his frame...but regardless, the very last thing I would've taken out of his game that I liked was his skating.

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#26 j Mutto
June 13 2013, 01:28PM
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He has an explosive take off and many times throws more hits per game than his entire team combined. I love his creativity and tenacity. This is the type of player we need. Plays an extremely aggressive game competes at any cost.

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