It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

bookofloob
June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

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On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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#201 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 02:03PM
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That's a good pick. Damn!

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#202 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:03PM
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justin's top 5 available: nichushkin, domi, mantha, pulock, shinkaruk

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#203 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:03PM
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Ahem. Horvat. Weird.

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#204 BJ
June 30 2013, 02:04PM
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Horvat... sucks for the Flames

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#206 lionlager
June 30 2013, 02:06PM
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Man. If they had traded Schneider last year... Devils robbed Van blind.

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#207 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 02:08PM
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Nobody wants to help Edmonton, that's awesome. 1st + 2nd + top prospect for Schneider, then he goes for a 1st. Suck it Oilers.

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#208 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:09PM
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justin's top 5 available: domi, mantha, pulock, shinkaruk, petan

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#209 RKD
June 30 2013, 02:09PM
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Nichushkin survives and makes it in the top 10.

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#210 Captain Ron
June 30 2013, 02:10PM
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Nice of James Duffy to hijack Bo Horvat's draft moment with Schneider/Luongo talk. What a f'ing jerk for doing that.

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#212 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:12PM
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@bookofloob

Pulock and Petan!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!

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#213 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 02:12PM
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bookofloob wrote:

So...who are we thinking at 22 and 28?

Anthony Mantha and Josh Morrissey

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#214 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 02:12PM
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bookofloob wrote:

So...who are we thinking at 22 and 28?

Nic Petan and Shea Theodore (my 'all-offense' selections)

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#215 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:13PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

Pulock and Petan!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!

/drool

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#216 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:13PM
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bookofloob wrote:

So...who are we thinking at 22 and 28?

trade them both for imediate help.

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#217 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 02:14PM
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I don't hate Vancouver as much as I did during their Presidents Trophy years, but Gillis comes off as such a smug turd.

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#218 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 02:14PM
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I don't hate Vancouver as much as I did during their Presidents Trophy years, but Gillis comes off as such a smug turd.

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#219 Veggie Dog
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I don't hate Vancouver as much as I did during their Presidents Trophy years, but Gillis comes off as such a smug turd.

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#220 Captain Ron
June 30 2013, 02:14PM
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Nobody wants to help Edmonton, that's awesome. 1st + 2nd + top prospect for Schneider, then he goes for a 1st. Suck it Oilers.

Why would Van turn down a better offer like that for Schneider? No way they would take less just to keep him from the Oil.

I'm suspicious of that one being true.

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#221 BJ
June 30 2013, 02:15PM
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Rychel and Morin

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#222 Veggie Dog
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Sorry about the repost

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#223 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:16PM
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um.

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#224 RKD
June 30 2013, 02:16PM
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Depends on who's left, I think it could be Gauthier, Lazar or Bowey.

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#225 BJ
June 30 2013, 02:17PM
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Ok... Rychel/Morrisey and Petan/Mueller...

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#226 Burnward
June 30 2013, 02:19PM
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Gauthier, Petan would be amazing.

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#227 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:19PM
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Morin is a terrible pick at this point in the draft. No offense to speak of.

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#228 BJ
June 30 2013, 02:20PM
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Lazar if he is there I like that... but maybe we swing for the fences and go for Burakowsky

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#229 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 02:20PM
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Edmonton is on the way up (Hall, Eberle, Yak, Nurse, et al.) while Vancouver is on the way down (aging Sedins, Luongo as their #1 goalie, Kesler a shadow of himself, et al.).

Why would you trade a potential star goalie to your division rival who could stomp you night in and night out?

Remember, the NHL is realigning. Making it to the playoffs got a lot harder. Vancouver doesn't want Edmonton to be the top of the division every season, meaning they'd have to make it in on a wildcard match.

Makes sense to me why they don't want Edmonton to have Cory Schneider.

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#230 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:22PM
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Maybe the least surprising pick so far.

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#231 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:22PM
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Coyotes take Domi.

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#232 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:22PM
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justin's top 5 available: mantha, pulock, shinkaruk, petan, lehkonen

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#233 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 02:22PM
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Domi looks like his old man. I already don't like him.

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#234 BJ
June 30 2013, 02:24PM
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@Justin Azevedo

No love for Rychel?

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#235 Kmp
June 30 2013, 02:24PM
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I'll go with Zykov and Santini.

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#236 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:26PM
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Flames have some centers now all of a sudden, eh?

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#237 Burnward
June 30 2013, 02:26PM
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@ChinookArch

Who's he supposed to look like?

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#238 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:26PM
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Domi looks like his old man. I already don't like him.

with the size of ty's head it defies the laws of pyshics that he doesnt topple over.

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#239 loudogYYC
June 30 2013, 02:27PM
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With 22 hopefully Pulock, and with 28 hopefully Montreal's 34 and 36 overall.

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#240 RKD
June 30 2013, 02:27PM
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Fan 960 reporting Calgary Flames were in on Cory Schneider but the asking price was higher because they will be in the same division.

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#241 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:28PM
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Morrissey to Winnipeg. Good pick.

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#242 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:29PM
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@BJ

one of the oldest in the draft. early-to-mid 20s.

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#243 Captain Ron
June 30 2013, 02:29PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

Edmonton is on the way up (Hall, Eberle, Yak, Nurse, et al.) while Vancouver is on the way down (aging Sedins, Luongo as their #1 goalie, Kesler a shadow of himself, et al.).

Why would you trade a potential star goalie to your division rival who could stomp you night in and night out?

Remember, the NHL is realigning. Making it to the playoffs got a lot harder. Vancouver doesn't want Edmonton to be the top of the division every season, meaning they'd have to make it in on a wildcard match.

Makes sense to me why they don't want Edmonton to have Cory Schneider.

I understand the philosophical reasons for wanting to do it but boy if they turned down a 1st, 2nd and a prospect to keep Schneider away from them it does seem to be a little bit counterproductive.

I get why they would want to keep a good/potentially great player away from a rival but that seems a pretty steep price to pay.

Personally I think I would have taken the money and run.

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#244 loudogYYC
June 30 2013, 02:30PM
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Morrisey with Mantha and Shinkaruk available? I dunno...

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#245 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 02:30PM
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Burnward wrote:

Who's he supposed to look like?

Well, I'm pretty sure he has a mother. It could have gone that way. Poor women must have felt all 5 corners of that head.

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#246 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:30PM
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justin's top 5 available: mantha, pulock, shinkaruk, petan, lehkonen

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#247 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:31PM
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LOVE Josh Morrissey. That's a fantastic pick for the Jets.

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#248 Burnward
June 30 2013, 02:32PM
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Hahaha! Nice.

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#249 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:32PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

Well, I'm pretty sure he has a mother. It could have gone that way. Poor women must have felt all 5 corners of that head.

ty uses couch cushions as pillows

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#250 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 02:33PM
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I am looking forward to the pacifist and mild mannered Sedins, and Luongo the want-way, under the helm of Torts the hothead.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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