It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

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June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

picture via slidingsideways

On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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#251 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:26PM
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Flames have some centers now all of a sudden, eh?

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#252 Burnward
June 30 2013, 02:26PM
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@@ChinookArchYYC

Who's he supposed to look like?

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#253 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:26PM
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@ChinookArchYYC wrote:

Domi looks like his old man. I already don't like him.

with the size of ty's head it defies the laws of pyshics that he doesnt topple over.

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#254 loudogYYC
June 30 2013, 02:27PM
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With 22 hopefully Pulock, and with 28 hopefully Montreal's 34 and 36 overall.

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#255 RKD
June 30 2013, 02:27PM
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Fan 960 reporting Calgary Flames were in on Cory Schneider but the asking price was higher because they will be in the same division.

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#256 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:28PM
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Morrissey to Winnipeg. Good pick.

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#257 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:29PM
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@BJ

one of the oldest in the draft. early-to-mid 20s.

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#258 Captain Ron
June 30 2013, 02:29PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

Edmonton is on the way up (Hall, Eberle, Yak, Nurse, et al.) while Vancouver is on the way down (aging Sedins, Luongo as their #1 goalie, Kesler a shadow of himself, et al.).

Why would you trade a potential star goalie to your division rival who could stomp you night in and night out?

Remember, the NHL is realigning. Making it to the playoffs got a lot harder. Vancouver doesn't want Edmonton to be the top of the division every season, meaning they'd have to make it in on a wildcard match.

Makes sense to me why they don't want Edmonton to have Cory Schneider.

I understand the philosophical reasons for wanting to do it but boy if they turned down a 1st, 2nd and a prospect to keep Schneider away from them it does seem to be a little bit counterproductive.

I get why they would want to keep a good/potentially great player away from a rival but that seems a pretty steep price to pay.

Personally I think I would have taken the money and run.

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#259 loudogYYC
June 30 2013, 02:30PM
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Morrisey with Mantha and Shinkaruk available? I dunno...

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#260 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 02:30PM
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Burnward wrote:

Who's he supposed to look like?

Well, I'm pretty sure he has a mother. It could have gone that way. Poor women must have felt all 5 corners of that head.

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#261 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:30PM
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justin's top 5 available: mantha, pulock, shinkaruk, petan, lehkonen

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#262 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:31PM
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LOVE Josh Morrissey. That's a fantastic pick for the Jets.

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#263 Burnward
June 30 2013, 02:32PM
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Hahaha! Nice.

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#264 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:32PM
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@ChinookArchYYC wrote:

Well, I'm pretty sure he has a mother. It could have gone that way. Poor women must have felt all 5 corners of that head.

ty uses couch cushions as pillows

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#265 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 02:33PM
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I am looking forward to the pacifist and mild mannered Sedins, and Luongo the want-way, under the helm of Torts the hothead.

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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#266 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 02:35PM
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Stange we haven't heard from the Blue Jackets till now. Nice change.

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#267 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:35PM
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I've come to expect prudent decisions from Kekalainen and the Blue Jackets. What's wrong with the universe?

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#268 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:36PM
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Wonder how far Shinkaruk will fall?

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#269 RKD
June 30 2013, 02:37PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Wonder how far Shinkaruk will fall?

I was thinking the same thing.

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#270 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:38PM
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@Kent Wilson

It's so puzzling, because he should have gone in the top 10, by my eyes. There must be a character or conditioning issue or something.

Someone's getting a steal.

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#271 Craig
June 30 2013, 02:38PM
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@Kent Wilson

#22!!

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#273 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:39PM
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@Baalzamon

Probably 2 things for him:

1.) He's small

2.) His scoring took a small step back rather than a step forward this year.

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#274 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 02:39PM
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Awesome the Islanders are up. Please pick Fucale.

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#275 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:41PM
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@Kent Wilson

I think that has more to do with losing Emerson Etem as a linemate than anything else. He didn't have anyone to score 60 goals.

DAMMIT!!! Pulock is gone. Friggitty frack!

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#276 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:41PM
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Pulock goes to the Isles. Shinkaruk still around.

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#277 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:42PM
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another d man for the isle

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#278 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:42PM
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justin's top 5 available: mantha, shinkaruk, petan, lehkonen, klimchuk

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#279 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:44PM
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Pulock is good 5-on-5, but he's got a FANTASTIC cannon of a shot.

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#280 lionlager
June 30 2013, 02:44PM
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I guess there's no chance Shinkaruk is around at 22 is there.

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#281 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:45PM
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gillis would f#$kup a one car funeral. bobbie lou fiasco dominates the draft.

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#282 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:47PM
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Another defenseman. Weird.

I was expecting Mantha, honestly.

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#283 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:47PM
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Zadorov goes to the Sabres at 16. He's huge, but raw with limited offense.

Shinkaruk! Keep dropping!

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#284 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 02:49PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Zadorov goes to the Sabres at 16. He's huge, but raw with limited offense.

Shinkaruk! Keep dropping!

Drop Shinkaruk Drop!!!!

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#285 Scott Lemieux
June 30 2013, 02:50PM
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Is it just me, or is Horvat the kind of "sizeandcharacter" pick I'm scared the Flames will make? How many forwards get less than a point a game in the OHL in their draft year and go on to score enough to be top six forwards? Based on what I know I'm happy they took him instead of us, and don't understand that deal from Vancouver's perspective at all...

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#286 Craig
June 30 2013, 02:50PM
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If teams keep picking a little off board were gonna have some great players that we'll pass up for zach fucale.

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#288 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 02:51PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Zadorov goes to the Sabres at 16. He's huge, but raw with limited offense.

Shinkaruk! Keep dropping!

the big russian has underrated offensive skills, will be a force. the kid hits like a truck and can throw the mitts. sabres picked two cornerstone dmen. he opens up alot of ice for domi.

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#289 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:52PM
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Lazar gone to OTT...Shinkaruk getting close now.

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#290 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 02:52PM
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oh jesus christ ahahahahahahahah ottawa!

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#291 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:52PM
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Lazar's a good fit in Ottawa.

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#292 RKD
June 30 2013, 02:53PM
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22 seems so far away! This teasing is making me nervous.

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#293 Ryan Pike
June 30 2013, 02:54PM
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Shinkaruk goes next, I think.

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#294 BJ
June 30 2013, 02:55PM
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Smart move D.... lots of quality left

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#295 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:55PM
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Sjs moving up makes me think they are going for Hunter.

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#297 Craig
June 30 2013, 02:55PM
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They made that trade for Shinkaruk

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#298 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 02:55PM
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"What is Curtis Lazar hockey?"

"It's fun."

Good answer. Suddenly, I like Lazar a lot.

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#299 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 02:58PM
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Mueller goes to SJS.

Getting closer.

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#300 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 02:58PM
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@Kent Wilson

Glad you were wrong. They take Mirco Mueller.

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