It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

bookofloob
June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

picture via slidingsideways

On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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#351 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:18PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

sigh... knew it was too good to be true.

Can people freak out now, is that okay with you?

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#352 clyde
June 30 2013, 03:18PM
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could have traded down to get him. wtf

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#353 Scott Lemieux
June 30 2013, 03:18PM
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Sigh. Feaster gets too cute; just no excuse for this. Isn't there a good chance he'd still be there at 28? Awful.

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#354 Kmp
June 30 2013, 03:18PM
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Wow.

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#355 Bean-counting cowboy
June 30 2013, 03:18PM
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Off the board again

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#356 Alsker
June 30 2013, 03:18PM
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wow, what a let down for you guys, not putting your pick down but REALLY?

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#357 Teamsupreme
June 30 2013, 03:19PM
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at least his sister is hot...

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#358 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 03:19PM
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i'm so mad

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#359 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:20PM
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Makes me wonder if there is some flaw that has caused Shinkaruk to fall so far. Like he showed up to the interviews with a bottle in hand.

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#360 Bean-counting cowboy
June 30 2013, 03:20PM
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Why do flames always have the off board pick

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#361 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:20PM
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Maybe Feaster takes Hunter at 28, that would really be something.

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#362 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:20PM
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Feaster kept hearing QMJHL team names come up and wondered what the hullabaloo was. I'm pretty sure this pick was made by throwing a dart at a board of random picks.

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#363 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 03:21PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

Can people freak out now, is that okay with you?

What is wrong with you? You are literally losing your mind over nothing. You think just because monahan isn't immediately available for an interview he is going to get traded? Jesus, calm down!

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#364 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:21PM
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Then again, I've never actually seen this kid play. So, there's that.

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#365 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 03:21PM
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Pronman has that kid at 62.

http://www.puckprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1539

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#366 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:23PM
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Brent G. wrote:

What is wrong with you? You are literally losing your mind over nothing. You think just because monahan isn't immediately available for an interview he is going to get traded? Jesus, calm down!

What's wrong with you? I was referencing the #22 pick, Poirier. Read ALL the comments before opening your mouth. Lot of people seem to agree with me that this pick is quite baffling.

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#367 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:23PM
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On one hand I want to say I am glad Feaster is sticking with his list and not going by the consensus... and I want to say not to knock the pick until we have seen what this kid can do in the show.... but man with Shinkaruk, Burakowsky, and Zykov(thought we wanted size) still there... man... Im glad I am drinking the 8.2% Black IPA...man

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#368 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:24PM
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Come on Hunter...fall! Fall!

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#369 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 03:24PM
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I'm not saying the pick was good or bad but frankly understand the people making the pick is smarter and more informed than anyone on this site. Calm down people. Notice how everyone else passed on shinkarik? There's obviously a reason for that

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#371 Scott Lemieux
June 30 2013, 03:24PM
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Of course, it could be worse than the Leafs getting Hunter; the (&%$% Canucks could get him. Gillis wants to shoot himself in the foot and Feaster took away his pistol.

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#372 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:24PM
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and.... Washington jumps all over Burakowsky... why not take Poirier at 28? or trade down and get him?

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#373 Kmp
June 30 2013, 03:25PM
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Remember reading Canadiens really liked him, 2 2nds for him?

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#374 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 03:26PM
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gawd what a stupid move, you could have picked this guy later or swung a minor deal for a second round pick and got him at 40 or so. ok so who's his uncle.

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#375 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:27PM
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I finally muted TSN and deferred to the 960. Ferarro is making me crazy.

They are interviewing Monahan now.

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#376 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 03:27PM
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how about you pick petan or shinkaruk with 28 jay

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#377 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:28PM
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D'OH!

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#378 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:29PM
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On the bright side:

Poirier is bigger, faster, and scored almost as many goals as Shinkaruk

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#379 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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Dang.

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#380 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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the forgotten man wrote:

Wow, pretty naive man...aware of the world you live in? When I was like 16 years old I still believed most adults were competent...by 25 I finally figured out the jig was up. This was a horrible pick, period...stop. Save the PR BS for Calgarypuck.

This. Thank you the forgotten man.

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#381 Danglesnipecelly
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Hartman or Petan at 28 and we can still salvage this baby....

Come on Jay, make a deal for a 2nd.

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#382 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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The Flames weren't the only team that passed on Shinkaruk, you do realize.

Still. Majorly stupid.

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#383 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I'm having another Guiness to make this more sensible. So far, it's not working.

Only 4%, you many want to try a french Canadian beer in honor of Emile Poirier from the Q.

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#384 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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We have too many small left winger. No need for Hunter

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#385 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Iggy for GM

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#386 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Huh, Montreal goes a bit off the board as well with that pick.

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#387 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Southern_Point wrote:

I'm so mad

Jankowski was the youngest player in the draft last year, so they seem to use late birthdays in their determinations.

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#388 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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I want Petan, we will draft Fucale.

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#389 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

IIRC, Jankowski was 3 or 4 years out, at least. If they miss the playoffs one or two more seasons, I'd say that Feaster isn't around to deal with any potential fallout from these picks.

Surely he knows he is on a relatively short time-frame. Why does he think he is constantly making a steal out of left field. I don't get it.

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#390 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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Fucale to CGY. It's happening; I hate this

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#391 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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I would rather Poirier than mccarron. This guy is projecting to top out as Bickel. An overrated 3rd line forward

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#392 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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Only 4%, you many want to try a french Canadian beer in honor of Emile Poirier from the Q.

If we take Fucale at #28 I'll switch up and start shooting heroin into my eye.

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#393 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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@BurningSensation

Once a pimp, always a pimp.

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#394 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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Veggie Dog wrote:

Surely he knows he is on a relatively short time-frame. Why does he think he is constantly making a steal out of left field. I don't get it.

It might be because he is actually making a steal out of left field.

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#395 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:39PM
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Just reading an Adrian Dater (Avs blogger) article, and looks like Roy told him the top 3 lines for Colorado will be this:

Ryan O’Reilly-Matt Duchene-P.A. Parenteau

Gabe Landeskog-Paul Stastny-Alex Tanguay

Jamie McGinn-Nathan MacKinnon-Steve Downie

LOL

Tanguay to his off wing, and playing on a line with 2 other playmakers. MacKinnon playing with 2 'pests'.

The schadenfraude that I'm bathing in makes it somewhat better. And the alcohol.

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#396 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Devastation aside I'd like to see Hartman or Hagg at 28

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#397 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Just a thought. If we draft Petan, passing on Shinkaruk makes sense.

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#398 Jeff Lebowski
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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I'm not going to pass judgment on Poirier yet. Feaster said Monahan and Poirier were in their top 10.

However, I'm not enthused but I'm relying on consensus and such. This is why teams have their own scouts and methodology.

But if you could've waited and picked him....just terrible board management.

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#399 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:41PM
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Hagg goes to Anaheim, I think.

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#400 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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Craig wrote:

Devastation aside I'd like to see Hartman or Hagg at 28

Hat tip...great comment.

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