It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

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June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

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On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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June 30 2013, 01:34PM
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damn so this worked out horribly haha. oh well. monahan is a bro too

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#2 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 01:34PM
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Well this rebuild just got a lot longer.

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#3 Kmp
June 30 2013, 01:34PM
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Ristolainen, please.

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#4 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 01:41PM
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That was close. I was really hoping for Lindholm.

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#5 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:17PM
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Emile Poirier....NOT what I was hoping for

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#6 CanadianManiac3
June 30 2013, 03:23PM
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Holy F***, are they f*** retarted ? Shinkaruk is available and they take a player who's compared to Ruutu. F*** this stupid S***.

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#7 Michael
June 30 2013, 03:23PM
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What is wrong with this team? Who cares that Craig Button thinks he was a first rounder, everyone else ranks him as a middle second rounder. Pathetic, Button should have been fired years ago, and I think Feaster should follow.

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#8 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:28PM
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Brent G. wrote:

I'm not saying the pick was good or bad but frankly understand the people making the pick is smarter and more informed than anyone on this site. Calm down people. Notice how everyone else passed on shinkarik? There's obviously a reason for that

Wow, pretty naive man...aware of the world you live in? When I was like 16 years old I still believed most adults were competent...by 25 I finally figured out the jig was up. This was a horrible pick, period...stop. Save the PR BS for Calgarypuck.

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#9 Kevin R
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We could have traded down for this shight. We could have given Montreal our 22nd for their 33 & our 35 back. I don't even care what 28 is going to be, probably someone ranked in the 80's but sure glad feaster sticks to his guns. This is ridiculous.

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#10 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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the forgotten man wrote:

Wow, pretty naive man...aware of the world you live in? When I was like 16 years old I still believed most adults were competent...by 25 I finally figured out the jig was up. This was a horrible pick, period...stop. Save the PR BS for Calgarypuck.

This. Thank you the forgotten man.

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#11 CanadianManiac3
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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I hope Shinkaruk burns Calgary for years and years to come.

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#12 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Bets on Feaster still being a GM when Poirier and Jankowski put on enough weight to play?????

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#13 Karimeeloronta
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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I have just finished sharpening the tines on my pitchfork. Uncle Fester must go. You go off the board in shuffleboard, not when a devastated city calls out for a rebuild. WTF is this? Better be a follow up trade involved.

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#14 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Horrible draft so far...no Nischukin or Shinaruk...rebuild set back another 2-3 years. If Feaster is drafting this time next year I will be forced to switch to Lacrosse full time.

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#15 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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Monahan = good pick

Porier = absolutely awful

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#16 clyde
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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puke

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#17 clyde
June 30 2013, 03:56PM
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Feaster, you did not win this draft. feaster loves klimchuk,s shot which was his lowest rated skill.

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#18 Kmp
June 30 2013, 04:01PM
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BJ wrote:

I like that Feaster said they were all in the top 13 on his list... so at least they are sticking to their list... maybe not the picks we would have made but you have to like that they are taking they players they think are the best available.

The other 10 on the list were what to order for lunch, it's rumored they went off board on that decision.

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#19 Graham
June 30 2013, 04:10PM
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Monahan is ok with his skating issues, Poirier is really a mid 2nd to mid 3rd rounder, and Klimchuk is a reasonable selection for 28, but wouldn't have been my choice.

Got to say I've come away completely underwhelmed by our selections. Missed opportunity for the Flames. We simply have the wrong team (Feaster, Weisbrod and Button) running the show. We should have rebuilt from the front office out...

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June 30 2013, 04:11PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

Keep in mind that some of these 'off the board' picks have actually kinda panned out.

Taking an undersized Swiss winger? Worked out

Drafting a smurfy skill winger who weighed all of a buck fifty? Worked out

I'll cut him the slack on Poirier so long as Fucale isn't the pick at 28

sven isn't that undersized (5'11) and johnny g was in the 4th.

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#21 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 04:20PM
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sven isn't that undersized (5'11) and johnny g was in the 4th.

Gaudreau hasn't even stepped on an NHL surface yet...he will match up well against Nischukin at 6'4". Theorem Fleury was a complete aberration...unlikely you will in your lifetime find a guy his size excel in the NHL as he did...the Flames seem to buy into the "lightning in a bottle" / "off the board" approach to team building...how about not being too cute or the smartest guy in the room mindset and just sticking to size, talent and smarts like mos successful franchises in any sport do...just tired of the same BS for 25 years now - no more patience for the garbage this franchise keeps shovelling.

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#22 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 04:23PM
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Burnward wrote:

I'm impressed.

Not the point buddy.,.its called asset (pick) management.

See Jankowski pick for further reference.

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#23 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 04:48PM
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negrilcowboy wrote:

the sabres are demonstrating the art of stocking the cupboard. perhaps moving a cammellari type for a roster player and second rounders may have helped.

Nobody is giving out 2nd rnd picks for a $6m winger who is past 30.

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#24 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 08:31PM
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Just watched more highlights of Monahan and Nischushkin...Sad Panda that we didn't get the big Russian...big body but so fast with the puck and acceleration - you can't teach that to anyone. Monahan is decent but everything looks half a step slower in his game after watching Nischuskin. Even if the big N is a bit flaky I actually would have bought a few Flames tickets just to watch him skate this year. Monahan will do suffice for the Flames but I saw no real Wow Factor to his game...hope I am wrong on this one.

Just thinking about a Terravainen - Shinaruk - Nischuskin line could have looked on a Flames roster...sigh.

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#25 RickT
June 30 2013, 12:33PM
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A great player with a coke problem is nothing new for Flames fans.

I would love if we could land Seguin.

Dream scenario is we offload a late first and a Gio-type player to Carolina for their 5th, and JG and #6 for Seguin.

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#26 Stockley
June 30 2013, 12:34PM
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Had a few laugh out loud moments while reading this. Especially the bit about punching Mr. Feaster in the mouth. I think we've all had day dreams about doing just that over the last couple years.

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June 30 2013, 12:34PM
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justin's top 5 available: mackinnon, drouin, barkov, lindholm, jones

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#28 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 12:51PM
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Tyler Kennedy to the Sharks for a 2nd rounder. Useful middle rotation player for a team that really needs quality depth. Nice move.

BTW, we'll make this the open thread.

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#30 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 12:55PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Tyler Kennedy to the Sharks for a 2nd rounder. Useful middle rotation player for a team that really needs quality depth. Nice move.

BTW, we'll make this the open thread.

kennedy for a 50th overall, would have looked good in a flames uni.

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#31 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 12:55PM
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Word is Calgary leaning away from moving 6th for Seguin.

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#32 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 12:56PM
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Seth Jones looks gigantic beside the other top 4.

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#34 RKD
June 30 2013, 01:00PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Word is Calgary leaning away from moving 6th for Seguin.

Yeah, they are saying the price Boston is asking for is quite steep.

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#35 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 01:01PM
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And apparently the Flames are interested in Burmistrov.

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#36 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 01:01PM
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@bookofloob

Yeesh. So... much... inanity!

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Is inanity a word?

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#38 Craig
June 30 2013, 01:02PM
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I'd take Burmistrov for a late 1st.

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#39 Puckstar
June 30 2013, 01:03PM
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@bookofloob

Oh, god. This. Literally this.

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#40 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 01:08PM
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lol hahaha freakin bettman is gettin the stern treatment. those two clowns probably catch chit from an atm

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#41 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 01:08PM
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wrote:

justin's top 5 available: mackinnon, drouin, barkov, lindholm, jones

No Nichushkin?

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June 30 2013, 01:09PM
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@@ChinookArchYYC

nope.

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#43 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 01:11PM
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MacKinnon goes first.

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#44 Craig
June 30 2013, 01:11PM
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there goes our chances on nate.

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#45 RKD
June 30 2013, 01:12PM
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MacKinnon cut from the same cloth as Crosby.

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#46 Burnward
June 30 2013, 01:12PM
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Burnaby Joe don't lie!

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#47 Southern_Point
June 30 2013, 01:12PM
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@Kent Wilson

The Bruins twitter feed reported Seguin came off the table when Horton elected to test free agency.

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June 30 2013, 01:13PM
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justin's top 5 available: drouin, barkov, lindholm, jones, nichushkin

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#50 BJ
June 30 2013, 01:13PM
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What about Burmistrov and a 2nd Rnd for #28?

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