It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

bookofloob
June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

picture via slidingsideways

On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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#501 Danglesnipecelly
June 30 2013, 05:39PM
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From the Royals!! Love Kanzig... As a Victoria resident, glad I have a player to watch regularly and cheer for!

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#502 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 05:40PM
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Keegan Kanzig is huge, has no offense to speak of and takes a ton of penalties. What a stupid pick.

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#503 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 05:42PM
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huh. More players drafted from QMJHL than OHL so far.

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#504 Wäx Män Riley
June 30 2013, 05:43PM
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Just had to get in on a thread with 500+ comments.

Hehe Poirer

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#505 schevvy
June 30 2013, 05:44PM
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Flames pick a goon. #GRITCHART

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#506 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 05:44PM
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@Kent Wilson

According to Eliteprospects, he's both the tallest and heaviest player drafted so far. Three guesses why the Flames picked him *roll eyes*

I refuse to believe the Flames had him ahead of Jordan Subban.

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#507 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 05:48PM
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@Baalzamon

9 points in 133 WHL games!! I know he's a defender, but a guy who is THAT offensively challenged in junior must already be absolutely useless north of the redline.

Only way he makes it to the show is as a facepuncher.

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#508 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 05:48PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

According to Eliteprospects, he's both the tallest and heaviest player drafted so far. Three guesses why the Flames picked him *roll eyes*

I refuse to believe the Flames had him ahead of Jordan Subban.

When you google this guy, unlike most prospects, the first results are fight videos as opposed to something from hockeydb, or hockey's future etc...

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#509 flameon47
June 30 2013, 05:49PM
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cammarata is gone.

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#510 clyde
June 30 2013, 05:52PM
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Wäx Män Riley wrote:

Just had to get in on a thread with 500+ comments.

Hehe Poirer

Poirier is invited to the Canadian Junior try outs and Klimchuk is not

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#511 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 05:53PM
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please tell me it's possible Subban is around in the 4th round...

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#512 Tony
June 30 2013, 05:55PM
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@Baalzamon

Yakimov goes to the Oilers.

We don't have a 4th rounder.

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#513 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 05:56PM
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@Tony

derp. 5th round.

If Subban was still around that late, I would think (hope) the Flames would try to trade in, though.

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#514 EugeneV
June 30 2013, 05:58PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

the fact that Brodie is #1 and not Baertschi should answer that for you. Proving things at the pro level matters. Monahan has played 0 pro games.

I don't count Brodie as he has now graduated from the list.

So let's make it #2 then.

At least.

C over LW usually?

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#515 Kmp
June 30 2013, 05:58PM
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http://www.propuckprospects.com/2012/07/keegan-kanzig.html

At least it is positive on Kanzig.

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#516 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:02PM
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@Kmp

They do, but their take, is uh, at odds with other ones I've seen. Smooth skater? Effective with the puck? Everywhere else says he's painfully slow and has no puck skills to speak of.

I asked Pronman if he even ranked Kanzig in the top-100. He didn't.

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#517 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 06:03PM
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@Kmp

Good Skater and Huge. Maybe he is Chris Breen but mean.We did need to draft a Dman...

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#520 Kmp
June 30 2013, 06:09PM
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@Kent Wilson

Not good, 3rd round a little early for an enforcer, especially with 2 7ths.

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#521 Kmp
June 30 2013, 06:11PM
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@Wizard22

Hope your right.

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#522 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 06:12PM
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$4 million!? Chicago gave that guy $4 mill? Wow I thought Bowman was smarter than that. They were better off with Bolland and Frolik and letting him walk

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#523 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:17PM
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@Brent G.

Yeah, he's going to regret that contract I think.

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#524 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 06:19PM
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@bookofloob

For the record I wouldn't have picked him but I don't scout junior Hockey either I'll be happy if he plays in the AHL and beats people up!

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#525 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 06:22PM
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Also under the header of "Baffling": Jordan Subban hasn't been picked yet.

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#526 Kmp
June 30 2013, 06:25PM
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@Baalzamon

I'm surprised Fasching hasn't gone yet.

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#527 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:26PM
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Baalzamon wrote:

Also under the header of "Baffling": Jordan Subban hasn't been picked yet.

Big time.

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#528 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 06:28PM
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@Kent Wilson

sigh. And Subban goes to Vancouver.

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#529 flameon47
June 30 2013, 06:28PM
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subban has been picked

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#530 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:30PM
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@Baalzamon

Vancouver has picked 3 players I would have liked to see the Flames get in this draft.

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#531 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 06:35PM
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@Kent Wilson

The 'nucks are doing to this draft what the Habs did to 2012.

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#532 Tony
June 30 2013, 06:37PM
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So what are we looking at for the 5th round?

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#533 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 06:41PM
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@Baalzamon

Why would you ever bother drafting a goon? Just trade a 7th rounder for one, what a waste.

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#534 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 06:42PM
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Is Porier Lecavlier's nephew?!?!

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#535 Kmp
June 30 2013, 06:43PM
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@Tony

Ikonen?

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#536 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:43PM
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@Tony

I wish I could say at this point.

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#537 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:47PM
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Juuse Saros was the top ranked goalie by CSS in Europe this year:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?cat=4&dpid=71117&sort=finalRank&year=2013

He's short, but had stellar numbers in the Finnish junior league. Maybe Flames will look at him.

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#538 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 06:47PM
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Flames took Roy 137th overall. One of our dark horses!

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#539 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 06:50PM
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This pick may be baffling for the simple fact that it isn't baffling. Good pick. *unties noose*

I believe Saros was already taken, Kent.

99th to Nashville.

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#540 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 06:50PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

Flames took Roy 137th overall. One of our dark horses!

We have been alternating good picks with nonsense so far. Up next, nonsense.

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#541 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 06:50PM
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@Kent Wilson

Where did Pronman have Roy?

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#542 Tony
June 30 2013, 06:56PM
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71

http://hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1540

Trouble playing defence.

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#543 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 07:00PM
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Everton will be happy with this one, haha.

Poirier doesn't look so bad after Kanzig, I must say. At least he's got talent.

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#544 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 07:07PM
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@Baalzamon

Damn, missed that.

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#545 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 07:07PM
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Another high school kid?

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#546 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 07:09PM
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Never heard of Tim Harrison.

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#547 Kmp
June 30 2013, 07:13PM
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@Kent Wilson

Can't find anything on him.

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#548 Aussie Flame
June 30 2013, 07:14PM
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Found this from 25 june 2012

Tim Harrison, F, ’94 (Dexter)—Big 6’2” kid who plays a physical brand of hockey, but also has an offensive touch to his game. We think he will end up on a DI roster, most likely in a third line role.

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#549 Tony
June 30 2013, 07:15PM
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Going to Colgate next year.

Brenden kichton picked yet?

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#550 Kmp
June 30 2013, 07:17PM
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Looks like he is playing for Colgate next year.

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