It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

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June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

picture via slidingsideways

On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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#351 please cancel acct
June 30 2013, 03:25PM
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How in hell could anyone justify this pick.It could have been had at 40

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#352 lionlager
June 30 2013, 03:26PM
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Man Feaster always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.

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#353 negrilcowboy
June 30 2013, 03:26PM
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gawd what a stupid move, you could have picked this guy later or swung a minor deal for a second round pick and got him at 40 or so. ok so who's his uncle.

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#354 flameon47
June 30 2013, 03:26PM
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Pretty sure I cursed about 100 times in the past 10 minutes.

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#355 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:27PM
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Brent G. wrote:

I'm not saying the pick was good or bad but frankly understand the people making the pick is smarter and more informed than anyone on this site. Calm down people. Notice how everyone else passed on shinkarik? There's obviously a reason for that

I agree half way.... I like that Calgary is clearly choosing who they think is the best pick... I think they could have gotten him later though... the thing could be that maybe he was in Montreal's sights???

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#356 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 03:27PM
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I finally muted TSN and deferred to the 960. Ferarro is making me crazy.

They are interviewing Monahan now.

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#357
June 30 2013, 03:27PM
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how about you pick petan or shinkaruk with 28 jay

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#358 Michael
June 30 2013, 03:28PM
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@Scott Lemieux

Feaster needed the pistol to shoot himself in the foot with the Poirier pick

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#359 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:28PM
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D'OH!

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#360 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:29PM
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On the bright side:

Poirier is bigger, faster, and scored almost as many goals as Shinkaruk

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#361 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 03:29PM
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Great, just f***in great. Now I'm raging.

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#362 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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Dang.

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#363 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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I'm having another Guiness to make this more sensible. So far, it's not working.

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#364 Scott Lemieux
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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There is not nearly enough bourbon in my house to keep watching this.

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#366 Danglesnipecelly
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Hartman or Petan at 28 and we can still salvage this baby....

Come on Jay, make a deal for a 2nd.

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#367 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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The Flames weren't the only team that passed on Shinkaruk, you do realize.

Still. Majorly stupid.

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#368 Charleston Kingsley
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Bizarre move...

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#369 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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@Veggie Dog

IIRC, Jankowski was 3 or 4 years out, at least. If they miss the playoffs one or two more seasons, I'd say that Feaster isn't around to deal with any potential fallout from these picks.

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#370 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I'm having another Guiness to make this more sensible. So far, it's not working.

Only 4%, you many want to try a french Canadian beer in honor of Emile Poirier from the Q.

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#371 Southern_Point
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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I'm so mad

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#372 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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We have too many small left winger. No need for Hunter

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#373 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:34PM
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Bergevin wins best suit. Hands down.

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#374 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Iggy for GM

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#375 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Huh, Montreal goes a bit off the board as well with that pick.

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#376 @ChinookArchYYC
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Southern_Point wrote:

I'm so mad

Jankowski was the youngest player in the draft last year, so they seem to use late birthdays in their determinations.

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#377 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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I want Petan, we will draft Fucale.

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#378 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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Burnward wrote:

Bergevin wins best suit. Hands down.

Bergevin's still wearing his high school graduation suit.

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#379 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

IIRC, Jankowski was 3 or 4 years out, at least. If they miss the playoffs one or two more seasons, I'd say that Feaster isn't around to deal with any potential fallout from these picks.

Surely he knows he is on a relatively short time-frame. Why does he think he is constantly making a steal out of left field. I don't get it.

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#380 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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Fucale to CGY. It's happening; I hate this

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#381 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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I would rather Poirier than mccarron. This guy is projecting to top out as Bickel. An overrated 3rd line forward

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#382 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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@ChinookArchYYC wrote:

Only 4%, you many want to try a french Canadian beer in honor of Emile Poirier from the Q.

If we take Fucale at #28 I'll switch up and start shooting heroin into my eye.

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#383 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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@BurningSensation

Once a pimp, always a pimp.

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#384 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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Veggie Dog wrote:

Surely he knows he is on a relatively short time-frame. Why does he think he is constantly making a steal out of left field. I don't get it.

It might be because he is actually making a steal out of left field.

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#385 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:39PM
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Just reading an Adrian Dater (Avs blogger) article, and looks like Roy told him the top 3 lines for Colorado will be this:

Ryan O’Reilly-Matt Duchene-P.A. Parenteau

Gabe Landeskog-Paul Stastny-Alex Tanguay

Jamie McGinn-Nathan MacKinnon-Steve Downie

LOL

Tanguay to his off wing, and playing on a line with 2 other playmakers. MacKinnon playing with 2 'pests'.

The schadenfraude that I'm bathing in makes it somewhat better. And the alcohol.

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#386 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Devastation aside I'd like to see Hartman or Hagg at 28

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#387 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Just a thought. If we draft Petan, passing on Shinkaruk makes sense.

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#388 Jeff Lebowski
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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I'm not going to pass judgment on Poirier yet. Feaster said Monahan and Poirier were in their top 10.

However, I'm not enthused but I'm relying on consensus and such. This is why teams have their own scouts and methodology.

But if you could've waited and picked him....just terrible board management.

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#389 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:41PM
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Hagg goes to Anaheim, I think.

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#390 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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Craig wrote:

Devastation aside I'd like to see Hartman or Hagg at 28

Hat tip...great comment.

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#391 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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It's always worth waiting to see how guys turn out before getting too worked up about draft picks, but...damn.

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#392 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:43PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

If we take Fucale at #28 I'll switch up and start shooting heroin into my eye.

What was I thinking... I should have picked up some Heroin this morning...

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#393
June 30 2013, 03:43PM
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JUSTIN'S TOP ONE REMAINING: NIC PETAN JESUS CHRIST.

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#394 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:43PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

It's always worth waiting to see how guys turn out before getting too worked up about draft picks, but...damn.

My thoughts exactly

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#395 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

It's always worth waiting to see how guys turn out before getting too worked up about draft picks, but...damn.

Agree Kent, but I need Hope...I feel no hope with Feaster et al. Ergo I am a Sad Panda.

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#396 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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the forgotten man wrote:

Horrible draft so far...no Nischukin or Shinaruk...rebuild set back another 2-3 years. If Feaster is drafting this time next year I will be forced to switch to Lacrosse full time.

I'm not all that displeased (at all) that we took Monahan over Nichushkin.

I am frankly shocked that we passed on Shinkaruk at 22, but Poirier isn't chopped liver (the kid is a speed burner).

The horror show would have been Fucale at #6, once that threat passed, and Monahan was taken, I figure we are in the win column.

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#397 flameon47
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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At this point all my faith i had in feaster, as little faith as it was, has been lost. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if Feaster trades our 28th pick to San Jose for Scott Gomez and then goes on to sign him to a 8 year 56 million dollar contract.

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#398 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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I read Poirier stock rose with his six goals and four assists in ten playoff games. Maybe he'll be a darkhorse overlooked, I dunno.

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#399 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:45PM
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They arr not stupid enough to take Fucal? Are you they?

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#400 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:46PM
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Wherever DomeBeers is, I'm pretty sure he's killed himself by now.

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