It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

bookofloob
June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

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On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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The Book of Loob is the Nation's resident expert in flim-flammery and twaddle. An unabashed Flames fan, when BoL is not intellectually bankrupting Flames Nation, he can be seen rooting for Blair Jones, often to excess, at Book of Loob. Follow him on twitter here.
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#351 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:30PM
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the forgotten man wrote:

Wow, pretty naive man...aware of the world you live in? When I was like 16 years old I still believed most adults were competent...by 25 I finally figured out the jig was up. This was a horrible pick, period...stop. Save the PR BS for Calgarypuck.

This. Thank you the forgotten man.

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#352 Danglesnipecelly
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Hartman or Petan at 28 and we can still salvage this baby....

Come on Jay, make a deal for a 2nd.

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#353 CanadianManiac3
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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I hope Shinkaruk burns Calgary for years and years to come.

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#354 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Bets on Feaster still being a GM when Poirier and Jankowski put on enough weight to play?????

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#355 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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The Flames weren't the only team that passed on Shinkaruk, you do realize.

Still. Majorly stupid.

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#356 Charleston Kingsley
June 30 2013, 03:31PM
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Bizarre move...

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#357 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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@Veggie Dog

IIRC, Jankowski was 3 or 4 years out, at least. If they miss the playoffs one or two more seasons, I'd say that Feaster isn't around to deal with any potential fallout from these picks.

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#358 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I'm having another Guiness to make this more sensible. So far, it's not working.

Only 4%, you many want to try a french Canadian beer in honor of Emile Poirier from the Q.

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#359 Southern_Point
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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I'm so mad

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#360 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:33PM
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We have too many small left winger. No need for Hunter

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#361 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:34PM
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Bergevin wins best suit. Hands down.

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#362 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Iggy for GM

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#363 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Huh, Montreal goes a bit off the board as well with that pick.

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#364 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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Southern_Point wrote:

I'm so mad

Jankowski was the youngest player in the draft last year, so they seem to use late birthdays in their determinations.

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#365 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:35PM
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I want Petan, we will draft Fucale.

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#366 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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Burnward wrote:

Bergevin wins best suit. Hands down.

Bergevin's still wearing his high school graduation suit.

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#367 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

IIRC, Jankowski was 3 or 4 years out, at least. If they miss the playoffs one or two more seasons, I'd say that Feaster isn't around to deal with any potential fallout from these picks.

Surely he knows he is on a relatively short time-frame. Why does he think he is constantly making a steal out of left field. I don't get it.

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#368 Karimeeloronta
June 30 2013, 03:36PM
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I have just finished sharpening the tines on my pitchfork. Uncle Fester must go. You go off the board in shuffleboard, not when a devastated city calls out for a rebuild. WTF is this? Better be a follow up trade involved.

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#369 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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Fucale to CGY. It's happening; I hate this

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#370 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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I would rather Poirier than mccarron. This guy is projecting to top out as Bickel. An overrated 3rd line forward

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#371 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:37PM
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ChinookArch wrote:

Only 4%, you many want to try a french Canadian beer in honor of Emile Poirier from the Q.

If we take Fucale at #28 I'll switch up and start shooting heroin into my eye.

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#372 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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@BurningSensation

Once a pimp, always a pimp.

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#373 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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Veggie Dog wrote:

Surely he knows he is on a relatively short time-frame. Why does he think he is constantly making a steal out of left field. I don't get it.

It might be because he is actually making a steal out of left field.

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#374 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:39PM
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Just reading an Adrian Dater (Avs blogger) article, and looks like Roy told him the top 3 lines for Colorado will be this:

Ryan O’Reilly-Matt Duchene-P.A. Parenteau

Gabe Landeskog-Paul Stastny-Alex Tanguay

Jamie McGinn-Nathan MacKinnon-Steve Downie

LOL

Tanguay to his off wing, and playing on a line with 2 other playmakers. MacKinnon playing with 2 'pests'.

The schadenfraude that I'm bathing in makes it somewhat better. And the alcohol.

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#375 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Horrible draft so far...no Nischukin or Shinaruk...rebuild set back another 2-3 years. If Feaster is drafting this time next year I will be forced to switch to Lacrosse full time.

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#376 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Devastation aside I'd like to see Hartman or Hagg at 28

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#377 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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Just a thought. If we draft Petan, passing on Shinkaruk makes sense.

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#378 Jeff Lebowski
June 30 2013, 03:40PM
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I'm not going to pass judgment on Poirier yet. Feaster said Monahan and Poirier were in their top 10.

However, I'm not enthused but I'm relying on consensus and such. This is why teams have their own scouts and methodology.

But if you could've waited and picked him....just terrible board management.

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#379 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:41PM
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Hagg goes to Anaheim, I think.

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#380 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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Craig wrote:

Devastation aside I'd like to see Hartman or Hagg at 28

Hat tip...great comment.

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#381 schevvy
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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Monahan = good pick

Porier = absolutely awful

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#382 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 03:42PM
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It's always worth waiting to see how guys turn out before getting too worked up about draft picks, but...damn.

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#383 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:43PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

If we take Fucale at #28 I'll switch up and start shooting heroin into my eye.

What was I thinking... I should have picked up some Heroin this morning...

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#384 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 03:43PM
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JUSTIN'S TOP ONE REMAINING: NIC PETAN JESUS CHRIST.

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#385 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:43PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

It's always worth waiting to see how guys turn out before getting too worked up about draft picks, but...damn.

My thoughts exactly

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#386 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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Kent Wilson wrote:

It's always worth waiting to see how guys turn out before getting too worked up about draft picks, but...damn.

Agree Kent, but I need Hope...I feel no hope with Feaster et al. Ergo I am a Sad Panda.

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#387 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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the forgotten man wrote:

Horrible draft so far...no Nischukin or Shinaruk...rebuild set back another 2-3 years. If Feaster is drafting this time next year I will be forced to switch to Lacrosse full time.

I'm not all that displeased (at all) that we took Monahan over Nichushkin.

I am frankly shocked that we passed on Shinkaruk at 22, but Poirier isn't chopped liver (the kid is a speed burner).

The horror show would have been Fucale at #6, once that threat passed, and Monahan was taken, I figure we are in the win column.

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#388 flameon47
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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At this point all my faith i had in feaster, as little faith as it was, has been lost. At this point i wouldn't be surprised if Feaster trades our 28th pick to San Jose for Scott Gomez and then goes on to sign him to a 8 year 56 million dollar contract.

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#389 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:44PM
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I read Poirier stock rose with his six goals and four assists in ten playoff games. Maybe he'll be a darkhorse overlooked, I dunno.

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#390 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:45PM
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They arr not stupid enough to take Fucal? Are you they?

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#391 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:46PM
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Wherever DomeBeers is, I'm pretty sure he's killed himself by now.

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#392 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:46PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

It might be because he is actually making a steal out of left field.

Obviously, but his love affair with NCAA and off the board picks seems to be pathological.

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#393 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:46PM
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually seen Poirier play?

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#394 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:46PM
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Petan is still there, let's cross our fingers again.

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#395 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 03:47PM
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Petan, Hagg, Erne, Klimchuk still around.

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#396 Kmp
June 30 2013, 03:47PM
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Zykov.

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#397 T&A4Flames
June 30 2013, 03:47PM
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If we took Poirier at 22, what are we taking at 28?

So nervous.

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#398 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:47PM
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@Justin Azevedo

This.

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#399 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:47PM
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pleeeeaaaase... Petan, Zykov, and Hagg are still there....

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#400 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:48PM
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@T&A4Flames

Someone projected to be in the 60's I bet.

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