It's Draft Day Open Thread: Threat Level Feaster

bookofloob
June 30 2013 12:29PM

 

 

 

It's been asserted by more than a few people that today is "The Most Important Day In Calgary Flames History", which, by the way, isn't true, but is one of those fork in the road moments for the organization, and need not be taken lighlty.

Flames fans, rightfully so, are TERRIFIED about the developments about to unfold today. Many of them are looking at their watch and wondering if it's too early to hit the sauce. For the record, I'm writing this now because it's too early for the liquor store to be open.

In an effort to kill time and to agitate an entire fanbase, I thought I'd take a minute to offer a little bit of a Draft Primer that touches on the picks held and some of the rumours surrounding the Flaming C.

Those Three Firsties

Too slick

photo via Mika Kylmäniemi

The Flames, as you all no doubtedly are aware by now, hold the 6th, 22nd, and 28th draft picks in the first round. There's been endless debate as to what should happen to those picks, and needless to say, none of us anywhere have any damn clue as to what is going to happen. The Flames drafted Mark Jankowski last season, so the brass has set a precedent of erratic behaviour that really none of us have a read on.

That said, assuming none of the picks are traded (more on that later), there's a fairly good consensus that the 6th overall pick should yield one of Elias Lindholm, Valeri Nichushkin, or Sean Monahan, with the outside possibilities of Alexsander Barkov or Rasmus Ristolainen getting casual mentions as well.

Jay Feaster, allegedly a GM, has said some petrifying things regarding this pick. As an example, he's been quoted as saying that it will be a factor if the player selected isn't willing to come over to North America right away (via Ryan Rishaug), likely speaking to either Nichushkin or Lindholm, both of whom are better options for the Flames than Sean Monahan, but you know, ENIGMATIC, so...

Another dumb thing that's been rumoured relatively heavily this morning is the 6th pick going to Philly in exchange for Braydon Coburn and (something else). I don't know what the other piece involved would be, but it's not going to be Sean Couturier, and Braydon Coburn is not worth giving up the 6th pick for, so if this happens, I hope you've got your Jager Bombs ready. We're going to need to drink to forget.

There's whispers of a deal between the Flames and the Winnipeg Jets as well. there's no word as to what or who is involved, but it's got to be Olli Jokinen, because why wouldn't it be? Don't trust whatever you see, and if you happen to be in Jersey right now and see Jay Feaster, hit him.  Right in the mouth. When you do it, you can say something awesome like "I'm supposed to tell you that Lanny sent me" or something. I don't care, just knock some sense into the man.

However...

Tyler Seguin

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On the positive side, there have been rumours as well that the Boston Bruins, inexplicably, are looking to move young Tyler Seguin, and that the Flames are in on him.  I'm not sure where the rumour originated from, but it's been talked about enough to talk about here, so shut up and listen! 

The deal seems to be Seguin for the 6th, and the adorable Johnny Gaudreau. I know you all know that Flames Nation is high on Johnny Hockey, and if he were traded, a lot of you bought your Gaudreauby Baker shirts and are now nothing but rags to you, but make no mistake, if the Flames could pull off THAT deal, it's a total win. The Bruins allegedly souring on Seguin is their own misguided vision, not Calgary's.

There's a lot of bunk rumours out there that Seguin has a bit of a coke problem and some attitude, and certainly some of the things he says and does will not make him seem like a generally good person, but rumours are rumours, and hockey is hockey, and Seguin can play hockey. He had an off year (this season doesn't count anyway), but this is a Number 1 center waiting to happen, and the relative uncertainty surrounding Gaudreau makes the risk worth it.

22 and 28

No one has a damn clue what's happening with these picks. Our own Ryan Pike and Christian Roatis have profiled several potential targets for the Flames at these picks, and do a better job profiling any of them than I would, so you should check those out if you haven't yet.

The stronger likelihood here is that these picks get dealt. I don't know to whom or to where, but while distressing, it's a lot less to be concerned about than mismanaging the 6th pick. Still, have an extra shot or two ready just in case.

ALL THE PICKS

The Flames will also strut their stuff at the podium for picks 67, 135, 157, 187, and 198. There's not a whole lot to note in here, because drafting past even the second round is pretty volatile. Of note, with that third round pick, there's an outside chance the Flames could draft Jordan Subban, but this is mostly interesting because of the name, and not as much because of the player (not that he isn't good)

Also, assuming the team didn't foolishly draft a goalie in the first round (oh yeah, a real possibility. We all joke, because we've run out of tears), this might be where the team selects a goaltender, if they truly believe they need one, which, I don't know, I guess you can never have too many. If a Jussi Saros or Calvin Petersen is still available, it's worth a look at.

Eh Vinny

Vincent Lecavalier

Pic via Jennifer Kuhn

According to Elliotte Friedman, the Flames are one of the teams interviewing newly employable Vincent Lecavalier today. There are apparently about 8 or 9 teams interested in Vinny (including Atvomobilist, one of the worst and poorest teams in the KHL), but you'd have to believe only a portion of those teams are doing more than kicking tires.

The Flames, I'm sure, would love to sign Lecavalier, and honestly, if it were on a one year deal (two max) at a responsible dollar figure, I'd be okay with it. It seems unlikely that that would be the case, however, as the more teams in on him, the higher the price tag, at which point Feaster and friends should just casually bow out. The team is finally absolving itself of a bad contract era, and bringing in a new one is no way to usher in a new aeon of Flames hockey.

Drink Up

I know I haven't presented an overly rosy portrayal of how this day could shake out for your Calgary Flames today, but I just really don't trust the decision makers on this team. Given the rumours swirling around the team, some dumb quotes by Jay Feaster, MARK JANKOWSKI, and so on and so forth, it's hard to have any kind of confidence inspired.

That's why I'm off to go stock up on supplies. The draft kicks off at 1 PM Calgary time. Make a game out of it. Do your own thing. Me, I'm going to build a bunker out of empties and I'm preparing  to hide in it until Connor McDavid is draft eligible.

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The Book of Loob is the Nation's resident expert in flim-flammery and twaddle. An unabashed Flames fan, when BoL is not intellectually bankrupting Flames Nation, he can be seen rooting for Blair Jones, often to excess, at Book of Loob. Follow him on twitter here.
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#401 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:48PM
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Obviously, but his love affair with NCAA and off the board picks seems to be pathological.

Keep in mind that some of these 'off the board' picks have actually kinda panned out.

Taking an undersized Swiss winger? Worked out

Drafting a smurfy skill winger who weighed all of a buck fifty? Worked out

I'll cut him the slack on Poirier so long as Fucale isn't the pick at 28

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#402 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 03:49PM
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okay Feaster... you've had your fun. People are lighting torches and sharpening pitchforks. Be very careful.

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#403 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:49PM
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Don't worry Vancouver will be the laughing stock soon enough..

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#404 Craig
June 30 2013, 03:50PM
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Sven fell to us where we were drafting, he should have been a top ten pick. Goudreau looks awesome now. I agree with you though if we pick fucale, then all is lost.

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#405 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:50PM
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Klimchuk or Petan here would be EXCELLENT

That said, I'm a little pissed (actually, the Guiness has been flowing, so I'm actually VERY pissed, but I digress) we missed out on Shea Theodore. Puck rushers are like gold in the new NHL and he was one of the higher end offensive D-men.

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#406 Wizard22
June 30 2013, 03:51PM
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ERNE PLEASE

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#407 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:51PM
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The Fan960 just reported that Luongo is not taking to the media. He's reportedly very upset.

I'm begining to like Mike Gillis' work, as a Flames fan.

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#408 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:51PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

Keep in mind that some of these 'off the board' picks have actually kinda panned out.

Taking an undersized Swiss winger? Worked out

Drafting a smurfy skill winger who weighed all of a buck fifty? Worked out

I'll cut him the slack on Poirier so long as Fucale isn't the pick at 28

It would just be nice to have some picks that will be on the big club in 1-2 years, not 3-5. Maybe Poirier is fantastic, just seems nutty to drop way down for him. AND with the Iginla draft pick.

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#409 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:51PM
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I'm watching video of Poirier and he looks quick and he appears to have good hands. Beyond that, hard to tell.

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#410 RKD
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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No Petan.

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#411 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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Klimchuk!!!! YESSSSS!

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#412 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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Flames take Klimchuk

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#413 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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Klimchuk eh.

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#414 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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My heart rate is returning to normal. No Fucale - Thank you!

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#415 clyde
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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puke

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#416 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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well that could've been worse

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#417 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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Alright, this makes sense now.

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#418 Brent G.
June 30 2013, 03:52PM
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@Veggie Dog

Klimchuk was used with the Iggy pick

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#419 Kmp
June 30 2013, 03:53PM
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How many LW prospects can you have.

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#420 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:53PM
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Hey guys, we have prospects.

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#421 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:54PM
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3 forwards, just like the doctor ordered!

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#422 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:55PM
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Calgary boy! Awesome.

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#423 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 03:56PM
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Klimchuk sounds rather professional, composes himself well. I like him.

Feaster just said that their three picks were the top (edit) 13 on the Flames' draft list. That's... (edit) not surprising.

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#424 clyde
June 30 2013, 03:56PM
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Feaster, you did not win this draft. feaster loves klimchuk,s shot which was his lowest rated skill.

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#425 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 03:56PM
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Agreed. The Poirier pick is, uh, something but at least the team got 3 forwards with decently high-end ceilings.

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#426 BJ
June 30 2013, 03:57PM
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I like that Feaster said they were all in the top 13 on his list... so at least they are sticking to their list... maybe not the picks we would have made but you have to like that they are taking they players they think are the best available.

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#427 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 03:57PM
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I can live with Klimchuk. Solid all-around winger.

My relief cannot be expressed enough.

Still no Madison Bowey...

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#428 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 03:57PM
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clyde wrote:

Feaster, you did not win this draft. feaster loves klimchuk,s shot which was his lowest rated skill.

Klimchuk's shot is accurate, but does not 100mph

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#429 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 03:58PM
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Brent G. wrote:

Klimchuk was used with the Iggy pick

Righto, my mistake,

All is well, Feaster assures us that all three picks were in his top 13, and Feaster doesn't fib.

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#430 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 03:58PM
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Top 13, bud, not top 3. Haha.

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#431 Jeff Lebowski
June 30 2013, 03:59PM
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FireOnIce wrote:

Klimchuk sounds rather professional, composes himself well. I like him.

Feaster just said that their three picks were the top (edit) 13 on the Flames' draft list. That's... (edit) not surprising.

He said the 3 picks were in their top 13

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#433 Burnward
June 30 2013, 03:59PM
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Still wondering. Anyone seen Poirier play a game of hockey?

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#434 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 04:00PM
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Top 13, bud, not top 3. Haha.

Oh, thank god. My mistake.

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#435 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 04:01PM
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Agreed. The Poirier pick is, uh, something but at least the team got 3 forwards with decently high-end ceilings.

Poirier was apparently one of those 'late risers' who was climbing draft boards towards the draft.

Two questions; was Poirier a target by Montreal and that is why we had to use #22 on him?

What in the hell happened to Shinkaruk's draft status? Teams were going WAY off the board to avoid selecting him, it was very weird.

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#436 Kent Wilson
June 30 2013, 04:01PM
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Nope. I am going to try to talk to some folks and look at his numbers tho.

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#437 Kmp
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BJ wrote:

I like that Feaster said they were all in the top 13 on his list... so at least they are sticking to their list... maybe not the picks we would have made but you have to like that they are taking they players they think are the best available.

The other 10 on the list were what to order for lunch, it's rumored they went off board on that decision.

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#438 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 04:03PM
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Ryan Hartman's mom was pretty foxy.

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#439 Burnward
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@Kent Wilson

Sounds good.

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#440 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 04:06PM
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Emile Poirier is on the radio now.

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#441 BurningSensation
June 30 2013, 04:06PM
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Emile's highlights:

http://youtu.be/pIBLICwkIQk

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#442 FireOnIce
June 30 2013, 04:06PM
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Best part of the day so far? LOLcouver traded their #1 goalie, and their former #1 is so upset he can't give interviews. Soon, they'll have no goalies, and the rest of us will get to laugh. Into our salty salty tears.

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#443 Graham
June 30 2013, 04:10PM
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Monahan is ok with his skating issues, Poirier is really a mid 2nd to mid 3rd rounder, and Klimchuk is a reasonable selection for 28, but wouldn't have been my choice.

Got to say I've come away completely underwhelmed by our selections. Missed opportunity for the Flames. We simply have the wrong team (Feaster, Weisbrod and Button) running the show. We should have rebuilt from the front office out...

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#444 Veggie Dog
June 30 2013, 04:10PM
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Best part of the day so far? LOLcouver traded their #1 goalie, and their former #1 is so upset he can't give interviews. Soon, they'll have no goalies, and the rest of us will get to laugh. Into our salty salty tears.

I feel bad for Luongo, he carried himself well through the whole fiasco.

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#445 the forgotten man
June 30 2013, 04:10PM
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3 Simple rules to building a team:

Draft the most talented player available irregardless of position.

In any trade, make sure you are getting the best player irregardless of how many bodies move.

No player is bigger than the Team...move assets at their highest perceived valuation.

The Flames continue to break these rules ergo 1 2nd round playoff since 1989...like seriously try to wrap your head around that level of futility...imagine someone in 1989 after the Flames won the Stanley Cup that this is the franchises fate for the next 25 years - today's draft does not incline me to think that we are any closer to the 2nd round :(

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#446 Justin Azevedo
June 30 2013, 04:11PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

Keep in mind that some of these 'off the board' picks have actually kinda panned out.

Taking an undersized Swiss winger? Worked out

Drafting a smurfy skill winger who weighed all of a buck fifty? Worked out

I'll cut him the slack on Poirier so long as Fucale isn't the pick at 28

sven isn't that undersized (5'11) and johnny g was in the 4th.

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#447 Baalzamon
June 30 2013, 04:13PM
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I have to say, if Poirier is the extent of the Feaster-related damage in this draft it could have been MUCH worse. The 28th pick wasn't off the board.

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#448 lionlager
June 30 2013, 04:14PM
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Emile's highlights:

http://youtu.be/pIBLICwkIQk

Wow the kid's got speed at least.

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#449 ChinookArch
June 30 2013, 04:15PM
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Emile's highlights:

http://youtu.be/pIBLICwkIQk

holy cow, that was 4 minutes of full and partial break aways. Poirier has wheels, and good hands. You could really confuse his play with a younger Rick Nash.

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#450 Burnward
June 30 2013, 04:17PM
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@ChinookArch

I'm impressed.

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