Flames Reportedly Come to Terms with Ramo

Kent Wilson
June 05 2013 12:58PM

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According to Andy Strickland, the Flames have come to terms with Karri Ramo on a multiple year deal. The deal can't be officially confirmed/announced until July 5th, the date that Ramo's KHL contract ends.

We'll treat this as "rumor" for now, but Strickland is reputable and is pretty cut and dried in his article. It's interesting the Flames would go with a "mulit-year" deal since Ramo is still kind of an unknown NHL commodity. That said, a 2+ year contract was likely part of the price of convincing Ramo to leave the KHL given his level of success and (likely) the size of contracts he could have commanded had he stayed overseas. 

There's little doubt Ramo will be inked under a one-way deal, so all that's left to see is the dollar/cap figure.

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#51 icedawg_42
June 06 2013, 08:05AM
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I think the real problem is, if Ramo comes in and is replacement or league average, then it stands to reason the team will finish in the 9-11 range once again. ...Stuck in the middle, not drafting high, not making playoffs. I'm pretty sick of that.

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#52 BurningSensation
June 06 2013, 08:22AM
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suba steve wrote:

Sorry to rain on your theory, but it kinda has been a bad thing in Calgary. An elite tender on a team like PITT would make them Cup winners, but on a team like Calgary? Were you not paying attention over the last eight years?

I hope Ramo has a good year and shows flashes of net-minding brilliance, but for 2013-14 (and perhaps 2014-15) we don't really need/or want elite tending. After that, if he develops into an elite talent, no one will be happier then me.

Two extra wins this season were the difference between drafting 6th and getting a potential top six forward or drafting 2nd and getting a potential super-star. And if we had Kipper at top form in 2012-13 where would we be?

The 'problem' with having an elite goalie on a mediocre team is NOT the goaltender.

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#53 RexLibris
June 06 2013, 08:22AM
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I would agree with some of the general sentiment above. The worst case for the Flames is if Ramo (and to a lesser extent MacDonald) perform well and obscure any roster weaknesses, the way they were for years under Kiprusoff.

Sadly, many managers seem to be blinded by results when the underlying methods are highly suspect. I would hope that management has learned that lesson after this season, but I am skeptical.

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#54 RexLibris
June 06 2013, 08:27AM
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@BurningSensation

Yes and no. It becomes a problem if it masks symptoms of mediocrity, or worse.

Flames fans are perfectly justified, in my opinion, in being suspicious of elite level goaltending (which is still entirely theoretical at this point) ahead of a roster in such obvious disarray.

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#55 Kurt
June 06 2013, 08:42AM
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suba steve wrote:

Obviously, he hasn't been elite for each of the last eight years. I didn't say that he was.

But over that span, did he not have an effect on the team? Did he not make them seem better than they probably were? Was he good enough to get us to the dance (playoffs) when the team was not quite good enough to compete once it got there? Over 3 of the last 4 years, was he good enough to make the Flames feel they had a legitimate chance to make the playoffs? Did that effect the way the team was managed and how they utilized their assets?

If Ramo is elite next year what do you think the net result will be? Would they be good enough to make the playoffs (and lose in the 1st round), or just good enough to place 9th in the conference? What moves would such a run tempt Feaster into making? Trade Sven/Nichushkin/2014 1st rounder for help for the playoff race? Would it be a positive for the future of the organization? Is the goal to make the playoffs, or is the goal to win the Stanley Cup?

Your quote: "Is the goal to make the playoffs, or is the goal to win the Stanley Cup?"

NAIL ON THE HEAD.

That to me is the main point fans need to ask. Because those 2 scenarios are completely different. This question is THE question that impacts EVERYTHING. I think management has somehow tricked fans into accepting the goal of making the playoffs. This question impacts every single thing we ever talk about on this website. From drafting to trades to UFAs and even coaching.

From my daily reads on this site I'd suggest most fans, even passionate ones on a website like this, are on the 'make the playoffs' train, which I find completely frustrating....

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#56 Parallex
June 06 2013, 08:54AM
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@suba steve

"Did he not make them seem better than they probably were?"

Some years he did... but there were other years where he made the team look worse then they were. It's not like Kipper has been the lipstick on the proverbial pig... he's been a big part of the pig.

Really, you're hoping that the Flames don't have an elite player so that... they can later draft an elite player? Cognitive dissonance.

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#58 suba steve
June 06 2013, 09:27AM
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@Parallex

You are hearing what you want to hear. I said, "if he develops into an elite talent, no one will be happier then me". Ideally, that happens after we have drafted a few more elite talents. Then we win the Stanley Cup. Then I think we would all be happy.

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#59 Kevin R
June 06 2013, 09:34AM
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Wow, good thing Sven didn't have a Calder type of a year, we might have finished in 9th or 10th. Hopefully Backlund & Brodie don't take steps to being elite as well next year so we can suck. Cmon, we all know the huge change that had to happen was we needed to get a new core of leaders and star players in this league. That wasn't going to happen with Iggy & Kipper. The team was built around those two. We have to move forward & find our future elite players & they all aren't going to show up at one time & they all aren't going to have the fanfare of a #1 overall splash. I will be delighted to see Ramo step in & kick ass. We need to get a little lucky here too. I am not an advocate for hoping to suck, the suck is going to come because we have no established elite players going into next year. The big changes have finally happened, lets get back to winning with new players as soon as possible. Who ever we put on the ice, lets hope they succeed. Whats wrong that???

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#60 jmpgray
June 06 2013, 01:33PM
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Kevin R wrote:

Wow, good thing Sven didn't have a Calder type of a year, we might have finished in 9th or 10th. Hopefully Backlund & Brodie don't take steps to being elite as well next year so we can suck. Cmon, we all know the huge change that had to happen was we needed to get a new core of leaders and star players in this league. That wasn't going to happen with Iggy & Kipper. The team was built around those two. We have to move forward & find our future elite players & they all aren't going to show up at one time & they all aren't going to have the fanfare of a #1 overall splash. I will be delighted to see Ramo step in & kick ass. We need to get a little lucky here too. I am not an advocate for hoping to suck, the suck is going to come because we have no established elite players going into next year. The big changes have finally happened, lets get back to winning with new players as soon as possible. Who ever we put on the ice, lets hope they succeed. Whats wrong that???

What he said.

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