TJ Brodie Signs

Justin Azevedo
July 31 2013 05:58PM

TJ Brodie

TJ Brodie has finally put his mark on a new contract with the Flames.

The 23-year-old defenseman and Jay Feaster came to an agreement today on a 2-year, $4.25 million deal (AAV $2.125).

The merits of signing Brodie long-term were obvious, but for right now this contract gives the Flames a very valuable defender for a small price. However, if he continues to progress the way he has (or, hell, doesn't regress from where he's at this second) Calgary will be looking at a lengthy and expensive investment in the summer of 2015.

For those who worried: let this be a reminder that when dealing with RFA's, there's very little to be concerned about.

Brodie will still be an RFA at the end of the deal but he will have arbitration rights.

For more info on Brodie's play this season and the pros and cons of this contract, check out these links:

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Justin is a 22-year-old Flames fan who also happens to be pursuing a double major at the University of Calgary. He has played hockey at high levels, enjoys wearing shorts and tends to drink far too much Grasshopper. Please don't hate him.
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#1 tsnGuy
July 31 2013, 06:34PM
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You are all sheep and your shepherd is Kent Wilson.

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#2 Arik
July 31 2013, 08:20PM
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@SmellOfVictory

Yup. Serious mismanagement in contract length. I would rather the Flames have paid a bit more for a lot longer. This contract is gonna be so dumb.

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#3 Tommynotsohuge
July 31 2013, 10:57PM
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Yay!!!!!!!

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#4 Mullen Mania
July 31 2013, 10:51PM
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yay

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#5 McRib
July 31 2013, 10:57PM
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@chillout

No kidding, cannot see anything unlikeable about this deal!!! Especially when you look at Winnipeg signing Zach Bogosian long term to $5.142 Million Per Season. What does Winnipeg save on that deal in the short term or even the long term?!?!?! For someone who has missed 43 games the past three seasons they take all the risk. They only save long term if he becomes an absolute star....

Long term contracts never seem to pan out the players just get far too comfortable!!! We get Brodie for a serious discount the next two years at $2.125 he has a better chance to reach his potential being more motivated. Then guess what we will have to pay him what he would be worth 4-5 million... What most of these guys are already making with these long term deals like Bogosian, Roman Josi, Ryan McDonagh and Justin Hamonic will only save a team money if someone turns into a Shea Weber.... I myself like everyone am a TJ Brodie fan, but he is a long way off from a $7-8 million dollar payday. So what if we have to pay him 5-6 million in a couple years, if we do he will be worth that.

Look no further than Marc Giordano making $4.02 over the next three personally I'm glad we didn't sign him for four more years on top of that at that price to "save money".

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#6 negrilcowboy
August 01 2013, 09:14AM
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YIPPY YIPPY YAY YIPPY , I"m so excited and i just can't hide it. I'm about to lose control

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#7 Kent Wilson
July 31 2013, 06:03PM
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Yay!

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#8 Ryan Lambert
July 31 2013, 06:12PM
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Dumb!

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#9 Peekin Saprykin
July 31 2013, 06:39PM
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#10 bookofloob
July 31 2013, 06:48PM
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ayy

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#11 Primo
July 31 2013, 07:41PM
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Where are all the Feaster bashers this evening? Seems like Feaster has introduced some much needed discipline into this organization.

Just think if a few of his drafts develop as expected....

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#12 RexLibris
July 31 2013, 07:56PM
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Ryan Lambert wrote:

im saying its dumb on twitter dot commercial

Ya, I'm not a fan of the contract as I think it may give some strong leverage to Brodie's camp in two years' time. I don't expect the Flames to be pushing against the cap in 2015, but it does leave them vulnerable.

That being said, maybe Brodie's camp looks at the options and wasn't taking anything more than two years unless it was a massive overpay. We only see the result and usually praise or blame the GM for offering the contract without knowing what the ask was from the other side.

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#13 RexLibris
July 31 2013, 08:51PM
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@SmellOfVictory

Recent experience (Gagner) has shown that signing good young RFAs to perennially short contracts usually ends up leaving them more and more leverage as they get older.

I suspect Brodie will improve and possibly peak as a good 1st pairing to outstanding 2nd pairing puck-moving blueliner. Those kinds of players attract attention and even if the Flames have cap space to burn when the next contract comes up, it may leave them with less room afterwards or, if they try to negotiate it down, could leave them open to an offer sheet.

There has been some talk in the Edmonton media recently about Nugent-Hopkins' next contract which can be signed beginning this coming season. Debate is on about where to slot him in relative to Hall and Eberle's contract. My assertion is that he is best signed for 8 years (the in-house maximum) at the Hall price point because his position is so crucial and that price tag will look far more palatable with each passing season.

Comparing these two players is a bit of apples and oranges, but nevertheless, if the Flames could have signed Brodie for five years at $4.25 million it would have been a good deal, in my opinion. A tad overpaid this season, but by year four probably a heck of a deal precisely when it will be needed.

However, we wait and see what Brodie (and Backlund, for that matter) can deliver this season and what impact that may have in two years' time.

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#14 chillout
July 31 2013, 09:32PM
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@Arik

aaannnnnnd there's the basher. How do you figure this contract is going to be " so dumb"? if he keeps improving then in 2 years yes you are going to have to pay him...big deal. Or if he stays at about the same or regresses also no big deal. If you have him locked up for 7 or 8 years and things don't go great here for the team but he turns out amazing then he is more likely to get unhappy since he won't be making what he's worth and he won't be in the playoffs so we'll be forced to trade him.

Short and sweet and the money is great so quit complaining

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#15 tsnGuy
July 31 2013, 11:01PM
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(Sigh)...OK fine.... YAY!!!

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#16 McRib
July 31 2013, 11:47PM
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@Kevin R

Oh, you know Justin Schultz (-17) is looking for at least six million next year because of the Hall/Eberle precedent. Its interesting the only long term secure contract that I ever liked was Erik Karlsson's cap hit at $6.5 million.... Then he goes and tears his achilles (or should I say Matt Cooke tore his achilles).

For me outside of an absolute star no one is worth more than $5-6 million. Also when has anyone ever become an RFA and gotten more than that... Outside of UFA ludicrousness (Hows that working out for Minnesota..) or by being a Crosby or Malkin?!?!?! I just don't see the value of securing an unproven asset long term to potentially save a million or two four years down the road.

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#17 They're $hittie
August 01 2013, 08:58AM
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@McRib

as an oilers fan I agree.

Gagner only had one year left to UFA so he should have been secured last year. Probably would have gotten 5 x 4.2. And if Eberle was held off to this year, the new cap structure and a little bit off regression he would have been able to be signed for 3 x 4.5 and would still have an RFA year and than get his pay day.

Justin Schultz will not ask for 6 not get it unless he puts up 50+ points, and his plus minus will not effect his contract as he is an offensive specialist and the market has shown a huge demand for him allready.

Nuge will get a bridge contract. Injury and small regression last year didnt help him. If he hits ppg this year he will get his 6M.

Taylor hall is 21 and destroyed a ppg last year. He is a steal a 6M.

Considering RFA years left, production, position, Gagner is where he should be, could have been solid if extended last year cheaper and longer, and Eberle is overpaid. I love Eberle but I swore about this contract the day it was signed.

Brodie Contract is Good. However there would be no issue in a longer term with more money based on what the dollar value on this contract is.

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#18 SmellOfVictory
August 01 2013, 09:12AM
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Most of these comparisons being made of overpaid long-term RFA contracts are not actual comparables. They're all kids who had good seasons and got paid as a result - Tyler Seguin, as one of the examples, came off a single season of 67 points. That's a lot for a kid his age (or most players), and they paid him based on that season.

Again, we're taking about Brodie, who, from a scoring standpoint had his best season last season at a roughly 25 point pace. That's not the kind of number that's going to boost a guy's paycheque beyond his actual value as a player. To reiterate: TJ Brodie is currently a better player than his scoring numbers would suggest, and is a very good bet to become even better than he currently is; if there was ever a player to try to lock in long-term, it would be TJ Brodie right now.

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August 01 2013, 07:49PM
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"Bachland"

Is that a classical music themed amusement park?

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#20 jeremywilhelm
July 31 2013, 06:05PM
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#21 SmellOfVictory
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#22 Kevin R
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Yay!

Note: comment changed to Yay by management for purposes of consistency.

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#23 Vowswithin
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#26 jeremywilhelm
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#28 Kevin R
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Sorry, just got a little excited.

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#29 SydScout
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Ryan Lambert wrote:

Dumb!

Yay!

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#30 Jibmeister
July 31 2013, 06:14PM
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#31 Matt
July 31 2013, 06:16PM
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Yay?

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#32 Kent Wilson
July 31 2013, 06:16PM
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Best comment string yet.

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#33 seve927
July 31 2013, 06:25PM
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How 'bout a Yahhhhhhh HOO!

EDIT:Fair enough. Yay!

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#34 RKD
July 31 2013, 06:25PM
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#35 Denscafon
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#36 febreze
July 31 2013, 06:33PM
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Finally a thread I can contribute to. How do you spell "Yay!"? Unfortunately, I know all to well how to spell "Dumb!"

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#37 Craig
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#39 beloch
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#40 Ryan Pike
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I AM EXCITED.

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#41 redricardo
July 31 2013, 07:21PM
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I need an eclamation that expresses joy and excitement! Hmm...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/yay

YAY!

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#42 ChinookArch
July 31 2013, 07:24PM
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tsnGuy wrote:

You are all sheep and your shepherd is Kent Wilson.

Bahhhh. Bahhhh.

Yay!

Not a whole lot to dislike here. Good value, and when it's time they have to pay more.

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#43 T&A4Flames
July 31 2013, 07:29PM
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Oh...............YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY

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#44 The Last Big Bear
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#47 Ryan Lambert
July 31 2013, 07:43PM
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Primo wrote:

Where are all the Feaster bashers this evening? Seems like Feaster has introduced some much needed discipline into this organization.

Just think if a few of his drafts develop as expected....

im saying its dumb on twitter dot commercial

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#48 thymebalm
July 31 2013, 08:02PM
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#49 SmellOfVictory
July 31 2013, 08:05PM
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RexLibris wrote:

Ya, I'm not a fan of the contract as I think it may give some strong leverage to Brodie's camp in two years' time. I don't expect the Flames to be pushing against the cap in 2015, but it does leave them vulnerable.

That being said, maybe Brodie's camp looks at the options and wasn't taking anything more than two years unless it was a massive overpay. We only see the result and usually praise or blame the GM for offering the contract without knowing what the ask was from the other side.

From what I read, the Flames were the ones insisting on a 1 or 2 year contract. Honestly I think a 1 year contract would've much better served them. Two years is juuuust enough time for Brodie to establish himself with some serious bargaining power for his next contract (not that I think he doesn't deserve it, because he's awesome, but I'm saying it's not optimal management).

Better than a contract that barely takes him to UFA, but the worst of the acceptable contract lengths (better being either 1 year or 6-8 years).

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#50 Captain Ron
July 31 2013, 08:08PM
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YAY!

But completely expected.

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