The 5 Teams Who Might Be Worse Than The Flames in 2013-14

Kent Wilson
August 13 2013 02:36PM

 

 

On paper, the Calgary Flames are one of the worst teams in the NHL heading into 2013-14. They have veterans who want to be traded as soon as possible, question marks in key areas (*cough* goaltending *cough*) and not a single elite player at any position. The roster certainly isn't "Edmonton over the last 5 years" bad, but Calgary is certainly one of the favorites to draft inside the top five next June.

However, the Flames aren't alone at the bottom of the barrel. Here are some teams whose fans could also spend the last three months of the regular season looking forward to the entry draft.

Nashville Predators

The Preds have an even more woeful forward group than the Flames. They added Matt Cullen, Viktor Stalberg and Eric Nystrom to the mix this summer, none of whom will do much to assuage their lackluster offense. David Legwand is the highest paid guy up front and he's 32 years old and plays some of the toughest minutes on the team (and, often, the league). Matt Cullen is 36, Mike Fisher is 33 and Paul Gaustad is 31. That's four of their highest paid forwards on the wrong side of their career arc.

On the back-end, it's superstar Shea Weber, potential superstar Seth Jones and notable prospect Ryan Ellis. And then some guys. Roman Josi is the most recognizable of the rest, although mostly because of his big contract this summer.

The Preds finished below the Flames last season, took the fewest amount of shots in the league (25.9/game) and had terrible possession numbers, which aren't really in line to improve given who they added this off-season (although I have some time for Stalberg).

Pekka Rinne is obviously Nashville's one area of true strength over the Flames and if he has a big year (unlike last year's .910 save rate) he could propel them above Calgary; particularly if Ramo et al are league average or worse.

Buffalo Sabres

Let the Sabres be a lesson that a bigger budget doesn't always lead to better outcomes. The club nose-dived after the new owner shelled out big dough for guys like Ville Leino, Christian Ehrhoff and Robyn Regehr. Ouch.

Buffalo was terrible from all angles this past season and they spent the summer more or less sitting on their hands. They dealt one of their best players in Jason Pominville to the Wild at the trade deadline and his absence is a huge gap that has been left unfilled. Thomas Vanek and Drew Stafford remain (for now), but there's a solid chance Marcus Foligno will be this team's best possession forward next season.

The Sabres have what looks like an okay blueline featuring Ehrhoff, Tyler Myers, Jamie McBain, newly returned Henrik Tallinder, Mike Weber and former first rounder Mark Pysyk. Ehrhoff actually had a tremendous year last season which might tragically be his high water mark while Myers has struggled mightily since he signed his big contract, but shuld eventually figure things out.

Finally, Ryan Miller is a quality puck stopper though there are rumors he's unhappy as a Sabre and wouldn't mind a ticket out of town. Miller hasn't been elite since he won his Vezina, but he's been good and should be again if they keep him.

Toronto Maple Leafs

Hey! The Leafs made the playoffs, almost took out the Bruins and then spent a bunch of money on David Clarkson and Dave Bolland this summer! Aren't they a good bet to improve?

No.

The Leafs had the second worst possession rate in the league last year ahead of only the Sabres and they ditched two of their top two-way forwards in Mikhail Graboski and Clarke MacArthur to boot (and retained one of their worst in Tyler Bozak). Toronto's success last season was built off of league high percentages, which are a good bet to regress back towards the mean this season. In fact, that probably would have had happened this past year had the schedule actually been 82 games long. 

What Toronto has that the Flames don't is legitimately high powered offensive weapons. Phil Kessel is strictly a one-way player, but he might be one of the few guys who can sustain above average scoring rates. Lupul, Kadri, Van Reimsdyk and, yes, Clarkson makes for a decent collection of forwards (although with Orr and McLaren Toronto might ice the worst 4th line in hockey next year). The blueline isn't awful either if they get Franson re-signed and the duo of Bernier and Reimer means they have redundancy in net.

Toronto's problem isn't necessarily their talent, but their coach. Carlyle spent all of last season making really bad decisions which culminated in near league worst possession rates, but was nevertheless reinforced in his decision making by the club's fortunes. So unless the Leafs get the best percentages in the NHL again, it's a very good bet they will spend a ton of time in their own end of the rink and they will fall to earth like lead balloon.

Tampa Bay Lightning

Tbay proves that even with two of the leagues most potent offensive players you can still lose a lot of games. Like the Leafs, Tampa has snipers in Martin St. Louis and Steven Stamkos who tend to yield possession but also put the puck in at an above average rate. The Lightning's problem is they have almost nothing else.

Val Filpula was signed this summer and is an okay, but not earth moving, addition. Jonathan Drouin could make the squad as a teen, but he's a few years away from making a true impact. Ryan Malone is broken and Teddy Purcell is a good middle rotation forward. Everyone else up front is replacement level more or less.

The blueline after Viktor Hedman is completely underwhelming as well (Brewer, Salo, Carle, Lee, Gudas Ohlund) and the goaltending duo of Ben Bishop and Anders Lindback is questionable.

If father time finally starts to catch up to St. Louis (who is 38), it will be massive blow to a first line that has to carry the rest of the squad on its back. Could be a long year for Yzerman's boys.

Edmonton Oilers

Despite all of their young stars and number one picks, the Oilers finished just three points ahead of the Flames last year. That was with Calgary suffering through tragically bad goaltending, throwing up the white flag at the trade deadline and then doing everything they could to lose down the stretch outside of not dressing enough players.

Edmonton's fundamental stats last year were, as usual, terrible. Only the Sabres and Leafs controlled the puck less than the Oilers in 2012-13. Anyone who wasn't playing with Taylor Hall pretty much got their heads beat in and the Oil definitely had the worst bottom-six rotation in the entire league. To say nothing of a back-end that featured next to no ideal top pairing defenders.

This might be the year the boys up north actually start putting things together though. Part of their problem last season was rookie coach Ralph Krueger, whose decisions and systems seemed to exacerbate the Oilers possession woes. Edmonton added Perron this summer as well as Boyd Gordon, Dennis Grebeshkov, Andrew Ference, Anton Belov and Jason Labarbera, so they have a lot more depth at every position. Mactavish seems a lot more sensible than the deposed T-bone and Dallas Eakins should be an improvement over Kruger if only because it's hard to imagine anyone being as bad.  

Conclusion

There are other candidates as well (Columbus, Colorado, Florida), but these five mentioned seem like the best bets for the reasons mentioned. Buffalo and Nashville are my favorites to be below Calgary, but feel free to disagree in the comments.

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#1 SmellOfVictory
August 13 2013, 03:05PM
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Edmonton finally picks outside the top 10 this season, I think.

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#2 Derzie
August 13 2013, 03:10PM
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Every one of those teams has better stars than the Flames. The depth varies but on paper they have some elite players. We don't.

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#3 Scott D
August 13 2013, 03:05PM
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Marcus Kruger can probably be forgiven for his sub-par coaching with the Oilers last year, he was busy winning a Stanley Cup with the Hawks too. That's impressive multitasking.

/pays Troll toll, shows self out

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#4 Sincity1976
August 13 2013, 05:17PM
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Edmonton and Toronto don't belong on the list IMO. Both are teams moving in the right direction and neither is likely to be as bad as the Flames next season.

Florida HAS to be on the list. They were the worst team in the NHL last season, they didn't get better, and their division just got a lot tougher.

Colorado is another one that should be up there. Having O'Reilly for a full season (maybe) and the addition of Tanguay should keep them above the Flames. But they shouldn't have been as bad as they were last season either.

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#5 Lordmork
August 13 2013, 02:59PM
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Yeah, but how much truculence and grit do these teams have? That ought to win them some hockey games, right? Right?

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#6 ChinookArch
August 13 2013, 07:58PM
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I don't see either the Oilers or the Predators in the bottom-feeding 5 for 2014.

Nashville's team concept of defence first, coupled with an elite goalie and d-man will give them dozens of loser points (and I'll go on the record to predict the most OT's in the league next season.)

Like it or not Craig MacTavish has finally improved his team via acquisition and signings. He's even addressed the worst defence in the league with some okay-ish experience players. I even think Dubnyk will be better.

Florida will be down right terrible in a pretty tough division, where they may pick up points in Tampa from time to time. I'm not even sure who will start in goal for the Panthers. Tell me they didn't resign Theodore?

Columbus is simply too easy to slot in the basement. They're just predictably that bad. Although, I hope they can actually turn it around this year.

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#7 aloudoun
August 13 2013, 05:27PM
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At least if New Jersey finishes lower it doesnt affect our pick ;)

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#8 RexLibris
August 13 2013, 03:19PM
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I think you have to emphasize the "might" in the article's title when reading this.

Any number of things could happen that move the Flames from the bottom five to the bottom ten. One team or another suffers a series of injuries or has a catastrophic performance crash and goes from playoffs in 2013 to bottom dweller in 2014.

I think the Flames have one of the poorest rosters in the NHL right now, but heaven only knows whom the Hockey Gods plan to throw under the CorsiBus this season.

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#9 Alsker
August 13 2013, 09:40PM
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Love to see the laufs on the list but really??,as for the Oil there, afraid your article is going to be trashed a gazillion times if you dont put us on there. Oh wait You and Wanye havent added the trash option to articles yet,sorry. BUT really, the Oil worse then you guys!!!!Sorry man, we probably wont be much better but worse NO!

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#10 RKD
August 13 2013, 11:38PM
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I would be surprised if Toronto and or Edmonton finished below Calgary. I would think Carolina or Florida could also be one the teams at the bottom along with the Flames. The Flames are still pretty terrible on special teams and on the road. We were 14th for a long time and after trading two veteran players pick up some wins at the end of the season. Over an 82 game season they'll stay in 14th place.

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#11 Michael
August 13 2013, 03:33PM
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'and not a single elite player at any position'

You can get a lot out of mid range talent, hard work and determination to win combined with some skill is a solid combination. But the Flames lack elite talent, the ‘game changer’, so without a 100% effort from everyone, this team is likely to suffer. Night in night out, this does not look like a competitive roster, we finish in the bottom five.

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#12 Baalzamon
August 13 2013, 05:31PM
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I kind of hope they win the lottery to be honest. That way, everyone keeps their pick, and people finally start to throw some well-deserved criticism in Lou Lamoriello's direction.

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#13 negrilcowboy
August 13 2013, 09:51PM
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The Preds simply by having Weber and Pekka are better than the Flames, and won't it be fitting when the Devils finish last.

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#14 Justin Azevedo
August 13 2013, 09:31PM
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flames won't pick top-5

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#15 Curcro
August 14 2013, 02:35PM
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Justin Azevedo wrote:

flames won't pick top-5

I suppose you think they will trade the pick away then..

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#16 Matt
August 13 2013, 06:14PM
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Sincity1976 wrote:

Edmonton and Toronto don't belong on the list IMO. Both are teams moving in the right direction and neither is likely to be as bad as the Flames next season.

Florida HAS to be on the list. They were the worst team in the NHL last season, they didn't get better, and their division just got a lot tougher.

Colorado is another one that should be up there. Having O'Reilly for a full season (maybe) and the addition of Tanguay should keep them above the Flames. But they shouldn't have been as bad as they were last season either.

Toronto's only moving in the right direction if you look at their point totals last year compared to the year before and think, without considering any other factors, that that trend will continue. They rode ridiculous luck to the playoffs last year, and they've gotten *worse* this off-season. They're weaker up front (Clarkson does not make up for the loss of Grabovski, Kuleiman, and MacArthur), they're weaker on the blue line (same defensive group, minus Franson for the moment) - the sole area that they've marginally improved is in goal. I'm betting on the Leafs to finish bottom-5 in the East next year, if not bottom-5 in the whole league.

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#17 Pizzaman
August 14 2013, 01:39PM
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This article proves that the Flames will be last. All are better!

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#18 Scary Gary
August 13 2013, 03:46PM
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Florida most likely. Carolina (Ward and questionable D) and NJ wont be great but I imagine NJ's goaltending will be solid.

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#19 RexLibris
August 13 2013, 03:46PM
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schevvy wrote:

I will say that Florida, Nashville, Buffalo, Toronto have the best chance to finish lower than the Flames. And because I want to annoy Rex I'll say the Oilers finish worse. So that leaves the Flames picking #6.

Aw schevvy, sounds like you need a hug. ;-)

I'm not sure how the Oilers finish this year in the new division, but I do suspect that we'll see some surprises in the bottom ten because of divisional play.

Two years ago the Blue Jackets were supposed to make the playoffs and finished 30th, the year after they were supposed to draft 1st and improved markedly.

Willis has an interesting breakdown of the new division (granted from an Oilers' perspective) going on now over at ON. Might be worth a read for Flames fans as well.

I'll hold off on predictions until we get at least halfway through pre-season.

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#20 LanderW
August 13 2013, 06:01PM
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Re:Nashville Although Cullen is on the old side, he's not a half decent forward; the last few years he's been decent on faceoffs and has some playmaking skill. Stalberg will be a nice piece for them too, if he can pick up a touch of consistancy. I really regret trading him in my FaceOff league now that he's not in Chicago (FaceOff hockey is a card and dice, statistics based hockey game. I'm in a long-term league)

re: Edmonton I'm glad you didnt dump on Dubnyk like everyone else seems to. Given how bad the oilers were last year, Dubnyk (who played 2101 minutes and faced 1132 shots) managed a.920 save percentage, which to me indicates he's a quality goalie on a team with horrible, awful team defense. (Note, Dubnyk is my #1 goalie in my faceoff league, hence my bias, lol)

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#21 Jeff In Lethbridge
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flames are expected to finish 31st this year(seriously who isnt expecting an expansion team to seattle?) and yet flames fans are more upbeat then they've been in several years! finally zome reasons to be excited about the season

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#22 doubledown
August 13 2013, 10:21PM
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A number of teams are just a few bad injuries away from a top 10 pick. Especially the Oilers.

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#23 Baalzamon
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I posted something like this in the Eastern Conference Defensemen tiers post over on NHL#s, but I'll say it again here. The only thing that needs to be said about how bad Tampa's D is: Keith Aulie was a regular player for them last season. That is a sentence I just wrote.

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#24 p
August 13 2013, 06:37PM
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T&A4Flames wrote:

Actually, if NJD finish last and win the lottery, everyone else moves up a spot. So if we finish 29th, we get 1st pick. Oh yeah!!

DUHHHH!!!!

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#25 coachedpotatoe
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I look at the teams in the League and ask who are trending down, staying the same, and of course trending up. In the East I see Carolina, NYR, Phili, NJ, Buffalo and Florida trending down. The Leafs are staying the same and that might not be good enough in the east. In the West Calgary, Dallas and Nashville are the have nots for a variety of reasons. I will include the Nuckleheads as trending down but they have too much talent still to be out of the playoffs. Pheonix standing pat and the ssame for Minnie. While it pains me to say it the Oilers are trending up but will it be enough to make the playoffs I'm doubtful. Colorado is trending up as well especially with all that talent down the middle; again will it be enough to get in I don't know. There are some great teams in the west and then there are the rest.

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#26 Robert Vollman
August 14 2013, 10:35AM
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Kent, I can not thank you enough.

In my new book there's a chapter on who will finish first. Other than Calgary the five teams at the bottom include Edmonton, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, Toronto and Dallas.

I've taken a lot of heat for that, and it's very nice to have back-up from another analytics guy!

Well, I guess we disagree on Dallas, but most of the heat has obviously been coming from the other cities anyway.

Thank you! I'll be quoting you frequently!

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#27 Justin Azevedo
August 14 2013, 03:38PM
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@Curcro

no. it's just that with the worst goaltending in the past decade a team that had largely given up still managed to be outside the top-5.

the flames have legit nhlers at every position, which is more than many of these teams could say.

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#28 Oil4ever
August 20 2013, 11:43AM
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I wouldn't put the Oilers on this list if I were you.

Sure, we might not have a true #1 d-man right now, and yes the bottom 6 group of forwards are a weakness now but that's where the chinks in the armour end.

David Perron will add size and grit to our top 6, shoring up the 1 weak spot we had in that area. He'll only make our 2nd line better.

You also seem to forget Nail Yakupov, who scored 17 goals last year...as a rookie, in a lockout shortened season. That's a phenomenal accomplishment, and he's only going to be better this year.

The #1 d-man question will likely be answered this year as Anton Belov will start the year on the bottom pairing but may not end it there. Justin Schultz is also a good candidate. Hell, the 2 could be a dynamite pairing by the end of the season. Ference is a solid addition to the top 4, as well.

The Flames, on the other hand, have no true offensive stud, no true #1 d-man, questionable goaltending (doesn't matter whether Kipper retires or not, the label still applies). They're lacking depth at all positions due to years of Darryl Sutter trading away drafts picks for poor choices as veterans.

I don't know what you're basing your opinions on, but if you look at the 2 rosters there's absolutely no comparison. There's a good chance the Oilers can make the playoffs next season, while the Flames will be struggling to keep the veterans motivated and stay out of the basement of the league.

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#29 Oil4ever
August 20 2013, 11:48AM
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schevvy wrote:

I will say that Florida, Nashville, Buffalo, Toronto have the best chance to finish lower than the Flames. And because I want to annoy Rex I'll say the Oilers finish worse. So that leaves the Flames picking #6.

You're truly smoking crack if you think the Oilers will finish worse than the Flames next year....

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#30 schevvy
August 13 2013, 03:17PM
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I will say that Florida, Nashville, Buffalo, Toronto have the best chance to finish lower than the Flames. And because I want to annoy Rex I'll say the Oilers finish worse. So that leaves the Flames picking #6.

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#31 Parallex
August 13 2013, 08:53PM
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I'd bet on Florida & Nashville finishing worse then the Flames... not a lot but I'd bet. Maybe two of Columbus, Colorado, Tampa, and Buffelo.

Toronto and Edmonton don't (but both fail to make the playoffs).

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#32 Rockmorton65
August 14 2013, 08:27AM
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Arik wrote:

yup nhl is implementing an expansion team with an expansion draft in the next two months with an updated schedule.

Is this speculation or is there a source? The season starts in a little over a month. The schedules already been announed, i dont think they can alter it now. I can't see the NHL pulling this off this season. Maybe next year. I could be wrong...

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#33 piscera.infada
August 14 2013, 08:35AM
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Really?

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#34 McRib
August 14 2013, 01:44PM
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I would be defending the fact that the Flames are going to be better than most are predicting. As our defense is respectable, we have 5 or 6 decent Top. 9 veteran forwards unlike other rebuilding clubs the past two years and we should likely get better goaltending this year from Berra, Ramo or McDonald (whoever steps up).

But I am not because I think the Flames are going to have major trouble with the new Pacific Division Opponents. Phoenix, Anaheim, SJ, LA have all made quick work of us the past two years considering if we could have beat any of these team then we would have been a playoff club. It makes me think wins are going to be at a premium this season with us being much worse. Honestly of the former NW teams that we could regularly get a win against (Edmonton, Colorado & Minnesota) two have left our division to be replaced by Phoenix, Anaheim & LA teams that we haven’t beaten in years!!!

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#35 MarkGB
August 16 2013, 08:44PM
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I like how apparently the "Only" thing Toronto has on Calgary is some more scoring punch. Wake up! Toronto is in another universe from the Flames. Much better offense, defense, goaltending, everything. There is absolutely zero chance they finish below the Flames.

The only team of the 5 mentioned that made the playoffs is the Leafs. They are being seriously underrated here. This stinks of Western Leaf hate.

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#37 ?
August 13 2013, 04:00PM
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I can see NSH being below Calgary, because they cannot seem to generate any shots whatsoever.

Tampa also is a team that i think could finish below CGY, as there goaltending duo is very unproven (not as much as Calgary's, but still)

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#38 Arik
August 13 2013, 09:04PM
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yup nhl is implementing an expansion team with an expansion draft in the next two months with an updated schedule.

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#39 bookofloob
August 14 2013, 08:08AM
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Hey, does this mean the Flames are going to be picking 6th again?

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#40 Rockmorton65
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Lol. Missed the sarcasm in Arik's post. My bad!

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#41 Rockmorton65
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I'll be over here...if anyone needs me. Lol

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#42 Kevin R
August 14 2013, 10:59AM
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A little depressing thinking of what 5 teams could be worse than the Flames just because most of the teams on this list have just as equal chance of finishing ahead of the Flames. Tell me 1 player on the current Flames roster that would be consensus league wide as a star player. Can the said be done for the other teams on this list or Dallas? Who cares where we finish, in all likelihood we are going to be a lotto picking team next June. What we should care about is who on this roster has the ability to step up, establish themselves league wide as a star in the NHL. If we get just 1 that does that this year, then I'll be a happy fan.

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#43 robaroo
August 14 2013, 02:06PM
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Did you watch Kessel in the playoffs? Under Carlyle hiss game is almost a good 200 feet now. No way they finish below the Flames :)

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#44 Danger
August 14 2013, 02:57PM
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Robert Vollman wrote:

Kent, I can not thank you enough.

In my new book there's a chapter on who will finish first. Other than Calgary the five teams at the bottom include Edmonton, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, Toronto and Dallas.

I've taken a lot of heat for that, and it's very nice to have back-up from another analytics guy!

Well, I guess we disagree on Dallas, but most of the heat has obviously been coming from the other cities anyway.

Thank you! I'll be quoting you frequently!

Statisticians do it frequently.

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#45 MarkGB
August 16 2013, 08:49PM
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Doogie2K wrote:

Toronto has one other thing over Calgary: a (relative) guarantee in net. Karri Ramo may be average or slightly above, but Reimer has shown himself to be an above-average goalie when healthy, and was another key part of the Leafs' success last year. Unlike their nutso shooting percentage, he should still be quality next year. Assuming they don't shove Bernier in there for 50 games like dummies, Reimer might just carry the Leafs outside the lottery.

One thing? Try everything. It's pretty shocking people can look at those two rosters and think Calgary can finish higher.

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#46 They're $hittie
August 13 2013, 08:00PM
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how screwed is the kid that goes second overall if NJ wins the lottery and has to forfeit the first pick. HE will be selected 1st overall but technically was the second pick.

Wonder how the record books will write this one.

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#47 jeremywilhelm
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It all depends on how Ramo/Berra/Brossoit do.

Any one of them provide League or slightly better goaltending and we should float just outside of playoffs.

If the puck bounces bad? Top 5 pick.

Bounces good? 8th seed, with some good luck.

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#48 schevvy
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Just a reminder that the 2010 Colorado Avalanche made the playoffs. That team was no better than this Flames team. Of course, they had a ton of luck and fantastic goaltending. They should've been a bottom 6 team.

So my prediction (insert Rocky III quote here) is that the Flames should finish bottom 6 but with some luck and good goaltending could be back in a familiar place (8th-10th in the West)

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#49 bookofloob
August 14 2013, 08:02AM
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So it's come to this

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#50 piscera.infada
August 14 2013, 08:21AM
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I agree with most everyone on here. The Flames should be epically bad this year (bottom 2, with NJ being below us - on paper at least).

The wild card here is all the new players as well as all the players that are in for expanded roles. It simply makes it too difficult to judge whether this team will be horrible or not in practice.

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